Kavanaugh Fallout, Liberal Outrage & Interview With Former U.S Attorney Brett Tolman
October 8, 2018

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All right. I have so much to tell you and I'm going to go a little slower than I usually do because there's a lot of stuff in play after Judge Kavanaugh became Justice Kavanaugh. He'll be sworn in tonight in the White House for a second time and the Republicans won that. The country I believe won it. and I'll explain why. But it's still very bitter and there is a lot of things happening. I'm going to walk through this.

 

 

 

Mitch McConnell the Senate majority leader is calling for an investigation into the leak of the original letter written by Dr Christine Ford, accusing Kavanaugh of misconduct, whatever you want to take out. All right. OK. That is vitally important. We cannot have a leak of that kind of a letter go unchallenged or the country falls apart. Now the leak was to a very minor website Intercept or something like that, never heard of it. But it was clearly either Dr. Fords camp, Feinstein's camp or the congressman, congresswoman in California, Dr. Ford first gave the letter to. That's it. This isn't a big wide ranging thing. Now who investigates? I guess the Senate could do it, I'd prefer the FBI to it. We have Brett Tolman coming up I prefer the FBI to do this, because there may be some criminality here and so he's better at this than I am. But I want to know and I'm sure you do too, who leaked that thing. So that's number one.

 

 

 

Number two Nancy Pelosi has filed a FOIA request for the FBI investigation, the last one, on Kavanaugh. She wants to see it, wants to put it out to the public. Now this will shock you, this is the first time in years I can remember ever agreeing with Nancy Pelosi. I'd like to see that. I'd like to see what the FBI found out, put it out there. All right. If you have to redact some names of witnesses do that. We don't want anybody getting hammered by crazy people being paid by George Soros, show up at your house, redact the names. We'll find out. So Nancy, Nancy Pelosi I'm with you on this. All right.

 

 

 

3. Do you think that any of these people that attacked Justice Kavanaugh so vehemently care one whit whether his family is damaged beyond repair or he's damaged beyond repair? Do you think they care at all? Do you think they have any remorse or any, well maybe I shouldn't have done it that way. I don't. And this is an example. This is a writer for the Colbert program named Ariel Dumas. All right who put out a tweet, quote "Whatever happens I'm just glad we ruined Brett Kavanaugh's life" unquote. So the tweets been deleted. That's on Colbert. There it is. That's on Colbert. All right. That is impossible, nothing like that could happen in my operation, impossible to happen because anybody who did that in my operation couldn't work here anymore. So this hatred, I mean I'm just seeing it I see it across the board. They don't care whether Brett Kavanaugh's guilty or innocent, they just want to destroy him and his family by extension.

 

 

 

Lisa Murkowski the only Republican to vote against Kavanaugh. Now the Republicans made a show of it that they were hugging her and being nice to her after the vote after she voted against the justice. I am a big supporter of every politician voting their conscience, not voting for what their constituents may be demanding. That's why the people are there, you elect them to represent you. But sometimes you have to vote your conscience. I am a big supporter of that but in Lisa Murkowski's case, I still don't know why she voted for the mob, see by voting against confirming Justice Kavanaugh, you voted for the mob, Senator, you voted for unsubstantiated claims. That's what you did. You empowered the mob. And it was just lucky that Susan Collins decided to vote for the Justice and it was lucky. So, Lisa Murkowski goes back to Alaska, a conservative state with a big strain of individualism and not real ideological but they lean certainly lean right, as Hawaii leans left. They negate each other. I think Murkowski is done, I think she's through. I don't see how she comes back from that in Alaska. Already Sarah Palin is making noises about running against her but she's not up until 2022.

 

 

 

Planned Parenthood gets one point five billion taxpayer dollars in 2013 to 15 they get money in this year's budget as well. On Thursday the organization put out a tweet that said quote, "Roses are red violets are blue. Senators vote no on Kavanaugh or else we're coming for you." That is a threat from Planned Parenthood and anybody supporting the justice will I guess be harmed by Planned Parenthood, we're coming for you. You got to take the money away, you've got to pull the funding. So if there are any Democratic Senators listening and Congressmen, got to pull that out, right now. You can't have this, I mean that's a tax exempt organization. It's getting my money. I don't want my money going there. And they threaten, the Congress of the United States, can't happen. Well see if anybody has a cohonas to do that .

 

 

 

Sheryl Sandberg is a CEO of Facebook. all right. Left wing individual very successful, operates under the under the tutelage of Mark Zuckerberg another left wing guy. Facebook is powerful all over the world, so there's an executive that works in Facebook, Joel Kaplan, he's the vice president of global public policy, he's a friend of Judge Kavanaugh's. All right. So Kaplan went to Washington to support his friend on September 27. Well now he may get fired by Facebook. So Sandberg who says oh no no no no we believe quote, "we support people's right to do what they want in their personal time but this was by no means a straightforward case."

 

 

 

Sure it was, he wasn't representing Facebook, Kaplan wasn't representing Facebook and Zuckerberg and Sandberg, say well you know we have to have a big meeting on this. We're not sure we can live with this. OK so you're getting a picture at Facebook right, all right.

 

 

 

Going forward, from today the FBI has texts from Monica McLean, she is Christine Ford's friend to Leland Keyser. She is Christine Ford's former best friend, the texts say apparently, that Leland's should change her testimony, sworn testimony that she knows nothing about any kind of Brett Kavanaugh or misbehavior, this needs to be investigated. So did Monica McLean, a former FBI agent herself do this on her own? Was she told to do it by the Ford legal team or by Ford herself? Now Leland Keyser did not change but apparently handed over these texts to the FBI. That has got to be fleshed out OK because there are perjury laws involved here. And the FBI has got to do that. Will they do it? It's all up to President Trump, again he can order this stuff to happen. And I would today, ordered the FBI to look into this whole thing and how organized it was and where was the money behind it.

 

 

 

Dianne Feinstein obviously the villain, biggest villain of all is Dianne Feinstein the senator from California, so seven Republican congressmen formally requested that the House and Senate ethics committees, both investigate her on why she held back the original letter from Christine Ford. But the head of the Judiciary Committee, Senator Chuck Grassley doesn't really want to do that. Roll the tape.

 

 

 

"Some of my committee feel that we ought to pursue an investigation on that, right now, I'm glad to be where we are today. I want to get over this hump and then after we get over this hump, I want to get back to a working relationship that I've had with Senator Feinstein and Democrats because every bill that got out of my committee is a bipartisan bill. "

 

 

 

All right. So obviously Grassley wants peace, he doesn't want to do this and we'll see Feinstein is powerful.

 

 

 

OK in the Wall Street Journal today, I tweeted this out, there is an article by Astra Nomani, Astra Nomani about George Soros in all of the organization's eighty, eight zero, that he gives money to, to disrupt the country. All right Soros as you know a unbelievable far left zealot. So the left denies that Soros does this, the left wing press doesn't cover him but this article is really, really important for you to read. Again Asra Nomani and she is a liberal, she says. OK so read that article and you'll know in great detail how Soros is trying to buy, all right and the country, by terrorizing conservative and moderate opposition, all right try to hurt them. Now organizations funded by him attacked me all right just so you know, this is personal with me. So on the heels of Soros being brought into this because the woman who confronted Senator Flake in the elevator you remember that, is making about a hundred fifty thousand dollars a year running an organization that Soros funds. All right. So we know that.

 

 

 

Anyway, the New York Times columnist David Leonhart, says that if you criticize George Soros you're anti Semitic, you're anti-Semitic, there he is. So this is another new low and it seems like the New York Times every day are hitting new lows, another one right there.

 

 

 

Finally before we get to Brett Tolman, no I got two more before we get to Brett. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders both want to run for president. All right Warren is going to win easily in Massachusetts her re-election to the Senate. Sanders and Warren not really in the forefront of this whole Kavanaugh thing now. Now Warren made an appearance at an anti Kavanaugh protest last Thursday, she showed up, but she hasn't really been that forefront. Sanders issued a couple of statements but they're really not much. That's a signal that both of them don't want to be tied into this because senators like Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Blumenthal in Connecticut, they're never going to come back from this. Even Chuck Schumer New York minority leader in the Senate, I don't think he's coming back. So they distance themselves, nobody else will pick that up but I did. That's why you are here.

 

 

 

Finally Avenatti, the lawyer who just throws bomb after bomb after bomb trying to destroy Donald Trump. Will he be investigated and disbarred for his client Julie Swetnick, putting in a false affidavit attacking Kavanaugh to California play. Somebody has got to file a complaint against him in California, infront of the bar. I think he could very likely be disbarred.

 

 

 

All right. Now what's going to happen going forward with Kavanaugh the justice? Not much. I think he's going to be ultra, ultra careful to be as very deliberate as he can, keep politics out of his decision making. But two things are likely to happen down the road. One on abortion Roe v. Wade is not going to be overturned but individual states, some of them want to limit abortion, they don't want partial birth abortion, they don't want unregulated abortion clinics, they don't want a lot of these things. Some of those cases will get to the Supreme Court and you would assume that Kavanaugh will rule on the side of the states, states rights all right. That's what traditional jurists who uphold the Constitution as it was originally intended do, you would assume that the left going to have very, very hard time challenging individual states on abortion. The second is charges against Donald Trump, you're going to see in the next two years before the run up before the election of 2020, them come out of the woodwork just like they did with Kavanaugh and there will be more women, they'll be his family did thism they'll be his foundation did that the Russian thing is over. There's no, there's just no evidence, so that's done. And when they wrap it up it'll it'll just be well we found this but the inspector general's report I don't know when he's going to put it out, that's political too. It's going to come out with basically saying the FBI was biased to start, there's nothing there. That's what's going to happen.

 

 

 

Brett Tolman is a very astute former U.S. attorney for the state of Utah comes to us now from Salt Lake City. OK let's take it one by one on the tweet that the FBI has uncovered in the last evaluation of justice Kavanaugh, there's no doubt the leaks say that this former FBI agent McClean put some heat on Leland to change your testimony. Is that a crime?

 

 

 

"Well it very well could be. I mean if you look at it this way, this is a representation that is made to the Congress. And people say well she wasn't under oath, well any representation is governed by Section 1001, which says you cannot make any misrepresentations to a federal authority. So when she, when McLean comes in and puts pressure on Keyser and says to her, hey you need to change your statement or whatever pressure and we know it's pressure because those are the words that Keyser used, that she felt pressured to change her state. At that point, obstruction of justice is at the forefront of your mind, anybody that's that's looking at this and it has authority to investigate it."

 

 

 

OK. So the FBI on its own, I'm not sure they would investigate this but President Trump or attorney general Sessions could order an investigation, could they not.?

 

 

 

They could. And the other thing is the Judiciary Committee themselves could want to get to the bottom of it and could ask the sergeant of arms to look into the matter depending on what was represented to the Senate. I think there are several bodies that could, could investigate this issue."

 

 

 

But the judiciary committee couldn't order the FBI to do it, it would have to come from the Justice Department or President Trump.

 

 

 

"That's right. That has to come from the Justice Department, I mean even Trump asking the FBI to investigate a potential crime that occurred on the legislative slate of side or involving legislative testimony would be unusual. It would most commonly come from the Department of Justice."

 

 

 

OK. But you know as well as I do that those calls are made all the time. Those meetings are made all the time, where the president says to the attorney general, hey you know.

 

 

 

"That's right.

 

 

 

You know this is what has to happen.

 

 

 

"Well and that's why you need a good working relationship between the president and the Attorney General.".

 

 

 

But I can't imagine Sessions objecting to that. I mean it just seems to be so. Let's find out what happened. Now as far as Feinstein is concerned, she is in this area where I don't see any criminality in her holding back that letter. I mean it's purely a political play. However, somebody leaked the letter and it absolutely could be somebody in her office. Is that a criminal thing?

 

 

 

"Well it is definitely something that needs to be looked into and when I say look into, in 2003 the sergeant and arms seized that Judiciary Committee servers. I was there when that happened. They seized the servers because the Democrats had put documents, confidential documents in a location where both Republicans and Democrats had access, but they were supposed to be Democrat only access. At that point, they wanted to know the staffer that did it, how far the dissemination was and they seized the servers and investigated it and he had full authority to turn that either criminal or ethic, ethics charges based on what he found. I'd like to see that happen at the very least. "

 

 

 

So would I, I mean really a letter like that and this is something that Christine Ford and her attorney should be asking for, right?

 

 

 

"They absolutely should!".

 

 

 

They should be screaming, let's find out who leaked this because we didn't want it leaked. We wanted to keep her confidential.

 

 

 

"If it's genuine that she asked the committee and specifically Feinstein to keep it confidential and was merely informing them so that they would have more, you know arsenal to ask questions of Kavanaugh during the hearings."

 

 

 

Well maybe, maybe we'll see that soon maybe we'll see them come forth and ask for an investigation.

 

 

 

"I think it would show, show a lot more sincerity in the original representation.".

 

 

 

I know, we are not going to see it.

 

 

 

All right the entire situation has now poisoned the two political parties. Now, Utah is a Republican state where you live, where I live, New York is a very liberal state and it doesn't seem to be any common ground as an American, somebody knows the system very well. Do you see that breach getting any better anytime soon?

 

 

 

"You know I I don't see the breach getting better, I do see there are avenues that if and quite frankly you look at something as simple as criminal justice reform, where both sides are agreeing and the President is saying I want prison reform and who's holding it up, Democrats running for president because they don't want to appear to work with this White House, as long as we keep seeing that as the landscape, I worry that we won't get even in those areas where we could find common ground and ability to work together."

 

 

 

All right. Last question, for you when you have a situation where the whole structure has been attacked all right, the whole nomination process, Brett Kavanaugh was attacked all right by Christine Ford's allegations and her attorney is who drove those investigations into the press and the press blew it up. Now there is evidence if you read the Wall Street Journal article today, that George Soros funded groups all right, went into Washington with one intent, disrupt and intimidate the entire process by confronting Senators and other people. Is there any criminality in Soros funding groups that are in for disruption of our system? Can you see any way that Soros himself might be investigated?

 

 

 

"There really is and this is what federal conspiracy laws were were targeting, were supposed to be targeted and that is a conspiracy to harm the United States. If you have an individual through a systematic and paid for scheme or strategy to do damage to our government and constitutional protections, I'd like to have that exposed. Will it rise to the level of criminality? It very well could. We talk about collusion which is not actually a crime but conspiracy is, amd if you have a conspiracy to harm the United States...".

 

 

 

Tough one.

 

 

 

"Very tough.".

 

 

 

Very, very tough because Soros has got a battery of lawyers that look at his donations and look at what he does and they're going to say look we gave them money but we didn't order anything blah blah blah blah blah. But you know...

 

 

 

"That's all the more reason, all the more reason for the FBI to look at the Kavanaugh situation.".

 

 

 

Listen I'd love for that to happen but the press is never going to go after Soros, now as you heard, if you criticized Soros you're an anti Semite. That's the latest from the New York Times guy. All right Brett, as always very good. We appreciate you helping us out and I hope you'll continue to come back and shed some light on some of these things.

 

 

 

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We have some really good mail. This senator from Hawaii, Mazie Hirono. This is an incredible soundbite, it's only 12 second, but it just sums up Mazie. Roll it.

 

 

 

"There was cooberation because she had talked about this assault to her husband to others before Brett Kavanaugh was ever nominated to the Supreme Court. She took a lie detector tests, cooberation was there."

 

 

 

So you know, either Senator Hirano is disingenuous or she's stupid. All right so you make the call on that. Hearsay is not corroboration. Anyone can make a charge and then say oh, I told Lenny or I told Sally when it happened that it happened and there's Lenny and Sally going yeah yeah yeah yeah, that's what they call hearsay and that is not allowed, that is not evidence. OK. You can't even use it in civil proceedings, it's nothing. OK. The second thing is, took a lie detector tests, so what, lie detector test cannot be admissible. All right. So there was no corroboration but in Maize's mind, a sitting Senator is corroboration, he did it. Frightening for you people in Hawaii. That's frightening that you would elect somebody like that.

 

 

 

No Columbus Day in Columbus Ohio. Nope and it's off the calendar and Veterans Day which we all should celebrate, November 12 takes its place as the city holiday and it's because of the indigenous peoples that Columbus roughed them up. Now this is interesting, I looked into Columbus when this controversy first started that he was a butcher and that he did X Y and Z to the Caribs, primarily the Indians in the Caribbean Basin where he made landfall. I can't find anything. You know I'm a historian, we can't find anything half of them Columbus's crew hated him because obviously he was driving them hard and mutinied and everything else. The Indians themselves were warlike, if you showed up on a Korean inhabited island you fought because they were after you. So I don't have any primary source we looked to see if Columbus was a butcher but now indigenous peoples, that's what it should be and Columbus kicked to the curb and Italian Americans obviously you don't like that.

 

 

 

Georgetown has placed Professor Christine Fair on research leave. There she is after, she said quote, about people who supported Kavanaugh, "All of them deserve miserable deaths while feminists laugh as they take their last gasps. We castrate their corpses and feed them swine." Unquote. Very good. Georgtown taking it on the chin from its alumni, saying we're not going to give you any money. So she's on research leave OK.

 

 

 

So on to the mail.

 

 

 

On the message board, Robert. My understanding is that if you file a false criminal complaint you can't produce evidence that's a crime. I would assume Dr. Ford would be put under oath and if her testimony is different than her testimony to the Judiciary Committee on the same subject, she might be committing perjury. I doubt she will file a criminal complaint."

 

 

 

You're right she, I don't think she will. I'd be shocked if she did.

 

 

 

Sheldon on the message board.

 

 

 

"Thanks to you and your staff, your service is the only place that stuck to the facts in this sorry misuse of congressional power.".

 

 

 

Larry.

 

 

 

"As a former co-facilitator for sexual assault victims Ford's behavior did not square with what I was taught to look for in the victims groups because we were mandatory reporters, we were taught. Victims may be using victim status to seek revenge for unrelated reasons."

 

 

 

Yeah, that happens. That doesn't mean that people coming forth should be suspect, they should not, should get a fair hearing."

 

 

 

OK.

 

 

 

Francisco on the message board.

 

 

 

"Bill you mentioned that Connie Chung stated she was sexually assaulted by her physician and you said you believed her based on knowing her. This equals to say the physician is guilty. What about the presumption of innocence?".

 

 

 

It's not the same thing. I mean I didn't say that a particular physician was guilty of anything. I say that I know Ms. Chung for a lot of years, I don't believe she would have come forth to say that she had a terrible experience unless she did. That's my opinion based on knowing her but I'm certainly not convicting anyone.

 

 

 

Mark.

 

 

 

"So I have a question for all, are these people yelling screaming chanting at folks in the Senate bullies? Is this not a case of bullying?".

 

 

 

You know I mean there are protesters. Is it bullying? They don't have any power, I don't think it's bullying. I just think it's stupid.

 

 

 

Elaine Amos Fayetteville, North Carolina.

 

 

 

"Will Dr. Ford have to pay taxes on the money raised on her go fund me page?".

 

 

 

No it's considered gifts right now but that whole thing needs to be looked at.

 

 

 

William Foldrur. Kaiser, Oregon.

 

 

 

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Sharon Ryan. Syracuse, Indiana .

 

 

 

"I would like your opinion, Bill what would the Democrats have done a President Trump and nominated a woman for the Supreme Court instead of Judge Kavanaugh?".

 

 

 

As you remember, Sharon I suggested thatMr. Trump nominate Amy Coney Barrett the professor at Notre Dame who will be I think the next Supreme Court nominee. The left would have gone after her as a religious zealot. That's where they would have concentrated and that she wants to impose religion on everybody, she's a Catholic and that's where they would have gone. It would have been a lot easier to get Ms Barrett confirmed than Justice Kavanaugh.

 

 

 

By the way, Breyer is 80 years old and Ginsburg 85, there are the two liberal people on the Supreme Court along with Sotomayor and Kagan and you know 80 and 85 it is up there.

 

 

 

David Hughes in Wisconsin.

 

 

 

"Barring some disaster will the economy be enough for President Trump to get reelected?"

 

 

 

No idea. I don't even know what's going to happen in November, David it's just too far out. There is too many things that could happen.

 

 

 

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