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O'Reilly on the State of the World

2026-05-19T15:28:00Z

Bill provides WABC’s Rita Cosby and John Catsimatidis with his latest insights into President Trump’s trip to China and the perilous situations in Iran and Israel.

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The Lookaways

2026-05-19T07:00:00Z

Hours before President Trump said he is once again delaying a military attack on Iran, I posted that such an action was coming. Mr. Trump cited new negotiations with the Mullahs, but we have heard that story before. This time, however, a number of Arab countries requested the delay.

The reason I knew the President was ramping up the military option is the arrogance of the Iranian theocracy. Tehran well understands Mr. Trump cannot back down on the nuke situation, or he will look weak. Nevertheless, the Mullahs will not negotiate seriously. So, what’s left?

Yes, there are millions of people who don’t care about Iran’s uranium enrichment program. To them, terrorism is a word, not a reality. But President Trump has an obligation to protect Americans, even those who accept evil. I call them the lookaways. So, the conflict drags on. But resolution will come soon.

It has to.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

California's BIG Medicaid Scandal

2026-05-19T07:00:00Z

Dr. Brian Blase, former special assistant to the President for economic policy, weighs in on Medicaid issues in California.

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Can We Trust China?

2026-05-19T07:00:00Z

Chinese President Xi Jinping and President Trump make trade deals, as China agrees to help with Iran. Will they keep their word?

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China Trip Fact and Fiction with O'Reilly & Batya Ungar-Sargon

2026-05-19T03:00:00Z

Bill joins Batya Ungar-Sargon on NewsNation to break down President Trump's trip to China, and the economy.

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2026-05-19T01:28:00Z

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President Trump's China Trip Aftermath, California's Medicaid Fraud Controversy with Dr. Brian Blase, & L.A. Mayor Karen Bass Wants Taxpayers to Pay for Drug Addicts' Teeth

2026-05-18T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, May 18, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Chinese President Xi Jinping and President Trump make trade deals, as China agrees to help with Iran. Will they keep their word?
Bill predicts more military action in Iran soon given the terrible polling numbers for Donald Trump.
California gets caught in a Medicaid fraud scandal.
Dr. Brian Blase, former special assistant to the President for economic policy, weighs in on Medicaid issues in California.
How should the recent Ebola outbreak be handled in a post-Covid world?
Final Thought: President Trump’s Iran attack plans postponed and Bill’s upcoming trip to Ireland.

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President Trump's China Trip Aftermath, California's Medicaid Fraud Controversy with Dr. Brian Blase, & L.A. Mayor Karen Bass Wants Taxpayers to Pay for Drug Addicts' Teeth

2026-05-18T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to another edition of the No Spin News, Monday, May 18th, 2026. Stand up for your country. This is very frustrating, trying to analyze the aftermath of President Trump's China trip. We're not getting a lot of information. And I have the best contacts and sources, as you probably know. I'm not getting it. So I don't know what the deuce happened there. The Chinese way is not to tell the press anything, although I did speak to a couple of powerful people in China, it was more of the same. You remember I was there in Beijing myself last year at this time. And the Trump administration usually lays out stuff, but it is being a little controlled here. Okay. So I can't tell you who won, who lost, and I can tell you that the reporting on it is dishonest, but that's not going to shock you. Whenever Donald Trump's involved with anything, there's dishonest reporting. But it is very, very frustrating for somebody like me, usually ahead of the curve, not to have a lot of information to give you, but the Talking Points Memo will go over what we know.

So the Trump administration says that America got $17 billion worth of agricultural trade deals. $17 billion. We have not seen any contracts. I don't doubt it, but I can't prove it. All right. Most of the trade is in agricultural products, beef, poultry, soybeans, soybeans, soybeans, okay, you got it, okay. And then in return, China is going to address in a nebulous way, the supply chain shortages of rare earth material, which is what Greenland's all about, and all that. Will China address anything? Probably not. Just guessing here, but oh yeah, we'll address it. Okay then, in October, last October, China committed to purchase 25 million more agricultural products. I don't believe they've moved out yet. China says it'll do stuff and then just lays there. The trip was cordial, I think that's the best word, and that's important. But there wasn't anything headline-making. So apparently, President Xi said, well, we'll help you on Iran. How? Nobody knows. I guess the president knows, but he hasn't said, so we don't know. It's not specific. The only thing Xi did that got attention was saber-rattle toward Taiwan. And I told you that. It's a very emotional issue. And every time I talk to the Chinese, Taiwan comes up. Does Xi want to destroy his own economy by invading Taiwan? Probably not. But the Chinese want it for their own reasons. The rest of the world doesn't care, other than Japan and South Korea, who are close by. The anti-Trump press is so boring that even the crazy networks are ignoring it now. I picked out two soundbites, one from a guy who runs the Midas Touch operation, which is far, far left. This man represented Colin Kaepernick. That's how nutty he is. But he got a forum to go on television and say this. Go.

"This trip by Donald Trump to China may go down in history as the most historic humiliation ritual for the United States ever. Donald Trump's just giving everything away to Xi Jinping, while Donald Trump is there in China giving speeches about Chinese food and Chinese restaurants in the United States, and as Donald Trump keeps on glazing Xi Jinping about how powerful you are."

And again, the guy's a loon, all right? Go down-to-history is the most historic humiliation ritual for the USA ever. It's just, you know, okay. If you guys, I know you don't watch it, but it's my duty to bring it to your attention. Of more substance is Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. Now remember, Schumer is pretty much at the end of the road. He cannot speak without notes. So he's literally reading every word he said. His job is to oppose everything that President Trump does. Roll it.

"So much for fighting against how China is hurting American workers and poisoning our communities with fentanyl. That would get in the way of Donald Trump and his family profiting off doing business with the Chinese Communist Party. Just hours in, and Xi Jinping has already threatened to quote, 'collide or even clash,' unquote with the United States if we continue our support for Taiwan. Trump apparently didn't say anything in response."

Now you see him reading this stuff off the paper, and Trump was smart not to say anything. You don't blow up a meeting like that based on speculation, you don't do that. You'd better not go into Taiwan, that gets you nowhere. And you notice Schumer's hunched over, reading the words off the papers, all of that. Now I will remind you that in 2023, Xi came to San Francisco. You remember that because the city moved all the homeless out, so Xi wouldn't have to see them, and the world would have to take a look at really what San Francisco has devolved into, and then two days later, all the homeless were back. Anyway, in that meeting, nothing was accomplished, nothing. All right, and Biden, well, you know, it was a total waste of time. Now you can make a comparison if you would like. We don't know yet whether China is gonna carry through on the trade deals or help in Iran or back away a little from Taiwan. We don't know. Okay, so summing up, I can't report any more than I just told you because I don't know. Will I get information? Maybe it's not the Chinese way. Okay, you know, it's funny because we have leakers here all over the place out of our federal government. If you leak federal government stuff in Beijing, you're executed. They kill you. Okay, just keep that in mind, and that's the memo.

All right, so I wrote a Message of the Day, and I hope you go every morning and read it, it's free. BillOReilly.com has it. And it says, likelihood of military action against Iran soon. I don't know what soon comprises, but we're at that point now, where the Iranians simply aren't gonna do anything about it, unless they're punished to an extent where they have to. And I assume with the polling numbers being terrible, and I would say 65% of Americans opposing the Iran action, where Trump's gonna have to wind it up, all right? When he does it, I don't know how it's gonna come down, I don't know, we're working it like crazy, but be prepared. All right, back home. So, lost in all of this Trump stuff is a very interesting case that the federal government has suspended $1.3 billion in Medicaid payments to the state of California. That's a lot of Jack. And the reason is, like Minnesota and Maine and a few other states, probably more than we know, the states themselves were allowing phony hospice, hospital, phony stuff to be for, and then the states get reimbursed for that. So, we pay for it, really, but it was bogus. So, I asked my staff, get somebody who really knows what this is all about, and I think we have it. Dr. Brian Blase, coming to us from Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida. He's the president of the Paragon Health Institute. He did once work for Donald Trump, you guys should know that. He follows these stories, and it's a grift, right? We're looking at, let's pinpoint California first of all. So, from what I understand, a whole bunch of hospices out there where people go and die, and they were either over-billing or they weren't in existence at all and said they were, and the state would just rubber-stamp the payments so the federal government would reimburse the state of California. Do I have it correct?

"Yeah, I mean, one of the things about the California hospices, Bill, is that nobody was dying. You expect that people go into hospice, a pretty high mortality rate, and actually, there was a very high survival rate with the Los Angeles hospice. So there's two programs. The one we're primarily talking about is Medicaid. Medicaid is a joint federal-state program, traditionally for lower-income, more vulnerable Americans like children, pregnant moms, people with disabilities. The key to understanding Medicaid is that the federal government provides an open-ended reimbursement of state spending. So the more the states spend, the more money that they get from Washington. That creates really bad incentives at the state level, creates a permissive environment for waste, fraud, and abuse. And it's really important when you have those incentives that the federal government provide meaningful oversight of state programs. And what we saw during the Biden administration, in particular, was sort of an anything, no-holds-barred approach to Medicaid. The program grew astronomically. In California, California now has a Medicaid program that costs more than $200,000 billion a year, about two-thirds of that is paid by the federal government. So a lot of this waste, fraud, and abuse in California's Medicaid program is paid by federal taxpayers, people outside the state of California. And while there's significant waste, fraud, and abuse in every state's program because of the incentives. California is really the hotspot, and probably the most egregious example in the country of a mismanaged, wasteful Medicaid program."

Now, California doesn't make money on this. It loses some money, but that money would go to the Medicare patients anyway, right? The ones that really need help. But what they've done to set up this grift is saying, well, we're going to pay people who don't need help. I understand there was one hospice in somebody's garage. I mean, that was how bad the fraud is in California. Now, does California have any kind of law enforcement looking at this at all to try to prevent the fraud?

"So Dr. Oz has done particularly good work here. He's flagged, I think, 400 hospices in Los Angeles that were fraudulent. You know, one-third of all hospices in the country are in Los Angeles, and they took action against these providers, and very few of them have appealed. You know, the state did some very minor oversight over the last couple of years. But just a fraction of the total problem, it really has been the attention that this fraud task force led by Vice President Vance, with Dr. Oz as the administrator for the Center of Medicare and Medicaid Services, they've really brought additional attention and done significant action to close down these fraudulent hospices in Los Angeles."

What's the difference between the LA grift and the Somali thing in Minneapolis?

"So, I mean, one of the differences is the Somali problem was related to autism, so they were paying parents to have their kids diagnosed with autism so that they could maximize billing. The other problem out of Minnesota was those sham daycare centers. Now that's not a Medicaid program, but that is another federally supported program. In California, we've also seen an ethnic entity really involved with the fraud, the Armenians. And I think one of the factors that Dr. Oz is looking at is in a lot of these big cities, you have ethnic groups that have developed fraud schemes and are ripping off the federal government, and in many cases, taking the money, the loot that they get out of the country."

Okay, so Armenians, first I've heard of this, are involved with the fraud in LA, Somalis in Minneapolis. Now, Governor Newsom looks like he's going to run for president. Does he have a defense here? Can he defend saying, well, I tried to clean this up or I did whatever? Is there anything that he did?

"I mean, I think he's made the problem worse, Bill. If you look at Medicaid spending, the growth trajectory of Medicaid spending since he's been governor, California has one of the highest-growing Medicaid programs in the country. It is really unsustainable. They've also done a lot of financial gimmicks. One of the things that Paragon wrote about last year was a California, really this money laundering scheme, where they were able to get federal tax dollars to expand Medicaid to all unauthorized immigrants in the state. I don't think Gavin Newsom has a track record of being a good steward of Medicaid and protecting that program for the most vulnerable. And in California, it really is out of control. Almost 40% of all Californians are enrolled in this welfare program."

So almost 40% receive some kind of Medicare, Medicaid, I should say, and that includes undocumented aliens.

"It does. California expanded Medicaid to cover all unauthorized immigrants in the state back in 2024. Of course, that had costs that ended up being much greater than expected. So they have looked to dial that back. But yeah, I mean, it was one of his main health policy agenda items a few years ago."

So did the state legislature in Sacramento okay that, or was it just an executive order by Newsom?

"So here's what the state did. And it took advantage of the open-ended reimbursement. It engaged in what was a legal money laundering tactic. The way that this works, the state taxed managed care plans. It taxed them, say, $10 billion. It then spent that $10 million right back on those managed care plants. That is an accounting gimmick. It was $10 billion going from the insurer to the state back to the insurer, but then what the state did was invoice the federal government as if that was an actual expense. So the state got about, I think, $10 billion in additional money from the federal government for that accounting gimmick. And then next year, they expanded Medicaid to cover all unauthorized immigrants in the state. One of the good reforms in the one big beautiful bill was to shut down that loophole. So California can no longer take advantage of it, and other states can't either."

Was that under Biden?

"No, that was, so they expanded it to unauthorized immigrants. That was approved under President Biden. And it was shut down by the reconciliation bill that President Trump signed."

Okay, but Biden did know about it, he did approve it.

"That's correct."

All right, doctor, we appreciate the candor, and I hope we can talk again soon. Let us know if anything else breaks out there. And this massive fraud, and that's what it is, I mean, this is why people don't have any money, because we have to pay more and more and more taxes, and then go into corrupt situations like this under administrations that don't care, okay? And then, well, we need more money. We need more money. National debt rising, rising, rising, and so now at least the Trump administration is trying to do something about it. And, of course, they're attacked by saying, oh, you're inhumane. Oh, yeah, I want the hospice in my garage. Come on. But the expansion of this into the billions and billions of dollars because nobody was paying attention to it. On that note, LA Mayor Karen Bass wants to give drug addicts more comprehensive, whenever you hear that word, you know they're coming after your money, more comprehensive health care in the form of teeth.

"How many people who are unhoused that you meet have no teeth at all? They don't have teeth. Why? Because meth rots your teeth. You can't succeed without teeth. So there needs to be comprehensive health care provided to people."

Okay, so that means that drug addicts now, in California in particular, they can abuse themselves and we'll pay for their dental work and medical care, okay? They can be so irresponsible, they can't even afford to pay rent, but we'll give them a house or a place to live. On and on and on, and on, because what these people do is they get high all day long. And at least she was honest about it, meth rots your teeth. Well, who's taking the meth? Is anybody forcing them to take it? So the solution to this problem is, all right, you wanna rehab these people and get them back into the mainstream where they can hold a job, well, they gotta sign a reimbursement that once I get back on my feet, I owe the County of Los Angeles this much money. All right, and not only for your teeth, but for housing and everything else. And of course, they're never gonna do that. Okay, these drug addicts, they just want stuff. Just gimme, gimme. That's why San Francisco, if you saw my documentary for News Nation, it was like, okay, we'll give you everything, including cash, a debit card, so you can buy your heroin, your fentanyl, whatever you wanna buy, okay? But there's no downside for the drug addict. A drug addict just goes through life inebriated. And we have to pay for that. Does that make any sense to you at all? I mean, I am for cleaning these people up in clinics. We should have clinics that rehab drug abusers. But they don't have a choice to go, they have to go to the clinics. And then the same thing. Once you get back on your feet, you're going to pay to reimburse the American taxpayer. These people have no right to do this. They have no right to do these. Oh, Karen Bass. Comprehensive health care provided. Yeah, sure. That would be like you going out, and you're breaking a finger on purpose every day, and you go in, and you fix my finger. But I don't wanna pay for it. You pay for. And this is why the United States is rapidly getting out of control fiscally, because we pay for all of this stuff. It's got to stop.

Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham, he's fed up with the culture. I don't blame him. I mean, I think he's a little too far out there for me. I mean, I want gay people to have equal rights. I don't think they should be tortured or bullied or anything like that. The trans thing is a whole different thing. But I'm not as into that punishing mode that Franklin Graham is. But Graham makes some very strong points. He's one of the few that does. So on Sunday, yesterday, Rededicate 250 was a large Christian prayer and worship rally in D.C. Very few politicians showed up. Franklin Graham stole the show.

"America has become morally rotten, completely sick with sin, transgenderism, same-sex marriage, opening women's locker rooms to men are just the tip of the iceberg. Why do we need to rededicate ourselves? When God sent the flood and destroyed the earth, it was because man's heart had become so evil and violent. In the news, we see unimaginable violence, rapes, murders, mass shootings. On YouTube, there's so much violence. Movies, video games are full of violence. We have an insatiable appetite for violence. And I believe this grieves the heart of God and will bring His judgment if we don't repent as a nation."

That's pretty strong, but it's not just the United States that has this insatiable appetite for violence. I mean, in the Muslim world, insane. And if you go to any totalitarian country, I mean Putin, Xi, it's on and on and on and on. But in the United States, the difference is we have violence as sport. You know, these two women who fought over the weekend. I mean, it was a grift. The whole thing was a grift. And the thing lasted 15 seconds or whatever. I mean, it was ridiculous. Well, why are people watching that? They're watching it because they wanna see one or both of the women pound the other one. I'm going, this is not good for the culture. Yet, it's perfectly acceptable.

All right, in Africa, a place you gotta be very careful if you go there. I mean, very careful. There's no accurate reporting out of Central Africa at all. I mean there are people slaughtering each other, Christians are getting slaughtered by Muslims, and it's on and on, never ends. All right, so now there's another Ebola outbreak. This one started in the Congo. This is coming out of the World Health Organization. 400 suspected Ebola cases. That means it's probably 4,000. 100 deaths, that means it is probably 500 because they can't count them. I mean, it's life over there is so rudimentary. You can't go in, you can't get any stats at all. There's no central authority at all in these countries. So the Ebola thing, I remember going on the O'Reilly Factor, and this is very controversial. I said, look, these African countries, we have to pause letting anybody come here from them. This was way before COVID. This was the first Ebola outbreak. I remember a guy in Dallas got Ebola. We don't have an obligation to allow people with, and this disease is really insidious, it's really easy to transmit it. Now you'll get an argument about that, but it's not hard. So why are we letting airlines from Tinsheasha fly to New York? We suspend them for a while until this thing gets under control. I still believe that. Because this Ebola thing, I don't think this is going to erupt into COVID, but it's bad. And the only way to control it is to monitor who's coming into your country.

Smart Life. Americans are leaving the good old USA in record numbers. About 400,000 left last year, according to Brookings Institute. Brookings Institution, nonprofit public policy organization, a think tank in DC. About 400 thousand split. Fed up with the USA. A variety of reasons. Here are the main countries they are going to. Mexico. And you're insane if you move to Mexico. Sorry, I hate to be blunt, but you're crazy. You've got no protection down there at all. Fernando wants to pull a gun to your head and take all your stuff. Nobody's going to help you. Canada's second. Little chilly up there, but we can live in Canada fairly close to how you live in America. UK, and I'm on my way to London, I'll tell you about that at the end of the program, is third. Germany, fourth. Why anybody would go to Germany is beyond me. Australia, very close to the US in culture, is fifth. So if I had to pick one of those countries to go to, I would pick Australia. That's closest to the United States, and it's left-wing, but they're not crazy loons down there, and it has got enough going on. But people are leaving.

So this is Stephen Colbert's last week on the air. He did it to himself. I mean, he was warned and warned and warned, you can't be hating on the president every night and continue to be sponsored by a network, CBS. So he's out of there. Thursday's his last show. He's got the usual lineup of lefties. Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Pablo Pasquale, Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg, David Letterman, Bruce Springsteen, you know, the usual bench. I hope they have a good time. I've got no animus toward Colbert. I don't particularly like him as a human being, but you know, I respect that he has some talent, but am I gonna miss him? Can't remember the last time I watched that program. I cannot remember, gotta be years. Saturday Night Live, there's a study, and then, you know, I gotta give credit to the Media Research Center. It is a conservative right-wing organization, but boy, they do good research. So they analyzed SNL's first 19 shows, they're done now. The season's over. And the stats are unbelievable. 91% of all the jokes on SNL were targeted to conservatives. 91%. Trump, of course, is the big draw. And I don't get this because you can mock both sides equally. So this Saturday, of course, it was mocking Trump once again. Roll it.

"Well, it's time for one of my patented mid-work naps. Just gonna rest my head on this gold bar that Switzerland gave me as a straight-up bribe and sleep the sweet sleep of an addled, jet-lagged mind."

"Donald...Donald..."

"Who's there? Who's in here?"

"Don't worry, Donald, it's me, your best friend, Jeffrey Epstein."

"Jeffrey, but I, I thought you were dead."

"I am, remember? I killed myself. Wink! So, how you doing, Donnie, baby?"

"Not so good, Jeffy. My approval rating's in the 30s."

"Oh, the 30's, gross. Call me when it hits 17."

Okay, it's not funny, it wasn't funny at all. Will Ferrell thinks he's funny, he's not. But I get it because they say 91% of the jokes were targeted to conservatives, okay. Well, 95 percent of the audience of Saturday Night Live are liberal. That's who they play to, and they want to get ratings, they want to make money. That's who is clicking it on the social media. So they're just giving the people what they want, and it does get into the culture and all that, and you know, mock, mock, mock, mock. But I tell you what, they did one thing on Mandani. There are so many leftists that are just ripe for this kind of satire. No, they don't want to. The producers of the program don't want to alienate their audience. That's what's going on.

This Day in History, May 18th, 1920. Pope John Paul II is born in Poland. Extraordinary man. Athlete, actor, political activist. He helped bring down the Soviet Union and he was elected pope on October 16, 1978. And he served just for seven years, but that was a long time. Most popes, they're in their very short period of time because they nominate elderly guys to do it. And Pope John Paul II came after John Paul I, who died after 33 days, a lot of conspiracy theories about that. Okay, John Paul II was 84 when he expired, and then he was declared a saint by Pope Francis, canonized in 2014. Probably the quickest canonization of any saint in the Catholic Church. So it was the Pope's birthday today, he's a good pope, John Paul II, I think. Okay, we got good mail. When I say good, it's lively. And I'll tell you about my upcoming trip in a moment.

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We've got a lot of viewers on my dissection of Alexander Ocasio-Cortez's view of the Constitution, the original Constitution, which is so loopy I can't even describe it. So you get it free, youtube.com/BillOReilly, youtube.com/BillOReilly. And you should check that out, and you'll like it. Mail. Jeffrey F. Berge, Lake Forest Park, Washington. "Bill, with regards to your remark about the Pope's deep concern for the treatment of illegal migrants, can you advise me how many millions have been welcomed into the Vatican?" Millions of people have visited the Vatican, but you're making a false comparison, of course. Vatican City is a very small place. One Pope's already been shot. The potential for violence there is colossal. So that doesn't really work.

Edward Wood, Edenton, North Carolina. "Trump has resolved nothing, Ukraine, nope. Iran's a damn mess, he's all mouth. China, they gave Trump nothing." Okay, Edward, you can make an argument there. I don't see it quite that way, but stuff's gotta start to happen. When I say stuff, I mean things favorable to our country.

Ruth Kay. "I'm still convinced President Trump is the best fit for our country in these turbulent days. Don't see anyone close on the horizon.".

Steven, these are on the message board. Become a Premium Member, you get to talk to other Premium Members, lots of fun. Steven says, "Mr. O, why didn't you accompany President Trump to China?" Does that all work for President Trump. I could have gone as a reporter, I guess, but then I would have to go through State Department credentialing and all kinds of stuff that, you know. I don't work for these people. I mean, it's not like I'm showing up at events.

Norman, Concierge Member, Norman will get all the help we can provide him with if anything bad happens to him. "American oil companies have an enormous amount of power. I don't like it any more than anyone else, but if the government imposes strict regulations upon the oil companies, they'll just shut down their drilling operations." They could come down a little bit, they being the Department of Interior on the oil companies, in my opinion. The oil companies aren't going to shut down.

Rod Etterberry, Dawsonville, Georgia. "O'Reilly, how much longer can the US sustain a 40 trillion dollar debt?" As long as the US dollar is the currency of the realm. The world runs off the dollar. And as long as that is in place, we can run up the debt because people buy U.S. Treasuries and dollar-denominated investments.

Kirk Overby, Dynamo Springs, Mississippi. "Enjoyed We'll Do It Live with Andrew Cuomo. Maybe Trump needs to have a sit-down with the governor, seems to support Trump on some issues you outlined. I agree, the Iran thing cannot keep dragging on.".

Kay, Rinebeck, New York. I think it's Kay Melly. "Thank you for the Cuomo interview. I appreciate the balance, tough questions without coming off as an attack. His answer to the question about his policy of putting coveted patients into nursing homes was a dodge.

Rosalie Padgilla, Howard Beach, New York. "I'm really enjoying the new podcast." That's long form. I hate that word podcast, but okay, We'll Do It Live. "Loved all of them. So interesting." Well, I'm glad you're watching them all, Rosalie. Very nice of you to do that. Okay, we want you to get the 250 hats. We just got a new shipment in, as I just tweeted over the weekend. So you want this for your 4th of July displays and have a good summer. Beautiful hat, you'll love it. And good cause, right? America. Okay, Word of the Day, nobody a quidnunc. Q-U-I-D-N-U-N-C. I have never heard a human being utter the word quidnunc other than me. Great word. Okay, final thought about my travels in a moment.

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Okay, here's the Final Thought of the Day. President Trump, while I'm sitting here, just issued another communicate of the nation saying that he was going to use military forces perhaps as early as today, but now new negotiations are taking place, whatever. We're on it. Okay, so on Friday, I'm flying off to Ireland with 20 guys. We do this every couple of years. We pick out a place. We all go. And half of them get arrested, but not me, because I'm law-abiding. So we're going down to Killarney, which is the Ring of Kerry, and Dingle. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. So we're down there for four days, five days. Then I'm going to London from there to do a special for News Nation about the Civil War taking place in Great Britain, which has to do with migration, immigration, Muslims versus Christians, all of that. So I'm gonna get involved with that, it's an easy hop from Cork to London. I'll go over, I'll shoot it, and then I'll be back. So we'll take it a week off from our broadcasts and storming back with all kinds of good stuff for you. Looking forward to Ireland, one of my favorite places in the world. We'll have a few laughs, which is very important in life to do that. And get free breakfast in Ireland and England. When you have a hotel, they give you the breakfast free. It really bulks up on that. Okay. Thank you for watching and listening to the No Spin News. I'll be on News Nation at 9 p.m. Eastern this evening, and we'll see you again tomorrow.

Andrew Cuomo on the Rise of Socialism

2026-05-18T21:07:00Z

Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo on why young people are getting behind socialism.

The Price of Leadership

2026-05-18T07:00:00Z

With respect to Pope Leo, it looks like more military action will soon take place in Iran. The world is closely watching the Mullah’s nuclear defiance, and President Trump understands the USA cannot show weakness, especially to China, a violent country.

In other words, Iran will soon pay a major price for its terror strategy as the world looks on and essentially hides.

There is always a price for leadership. Americans are now paying it as our 250th birthday closes in. It’s not fair, but the alternative is to allow Iran to build its death-dealing capabilities.

The Pope is a man of peace, and I wish the world would embrace his vision. But it won’t. It never has. The Romans murdered a peaceful man by driving nails into his body. Pope Leo understands terrorism and injustice. It grows without violent confrontation.

So another round of violence is near. America protects the world from evil. We have done so many times at great sacrifice. Another round is on the way.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

Precarious Times at the White House

2026-05-17T07:00:00Z

Every President hits the wall. Washington had tax revolts, Lincoln had battlefield setbacks during the Civil War. Franklin Roosevelt was totally unprepared for Japanese aggression.

Don’t even mention Herbert Hoover, who was crushed by the Great Depression, or James Madison, who declared war on Great Britain even though Madison had no army.

“Yeah, I knew I forgot something,” Jamey purportedly said to Dolley as she tried to save the White House furniture from the marauding Brits marching down Pennsylvania Avenue.

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Now, President Trump finds himself in a dicey spot. Prices for essential stuff are on the rise, hammering working folks, and our adversaries around the world are sensing blood. Those adversaries include the American media.

The Chinese will provide dancing girls, and Beijing walk arounds with the President, but are really gaming the system as they usually do. The Communists want Taiwan as well as lucrative trade deals. They are not willing to give much back.

The nutty Mullahs in Iran believe the USA will cave on the nukes, so why do anything? They pray five times daily, eat some pita bread, and execute dissenters. Full day.

Putin continues to murder Ukrainian civilians for nothing. Word is his body is swelling up, and he can’t even go out to dinner for fear of being assassinated.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration is trying to figure it all out. Lots of incoming. The President remains confident that the USA will prevail. However, Democrat Hakeem Jeffries is trying on new Speaker of the House suits.

“What the hell happened?”

Former NY Gov. @AndrewCuomo joins Bill to discuss extremists taking over the Democratic Party.

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Nobody knows what Senator Charles Schumer is doing in the Senate because Schumer himself doesn’t know unless some staffer writes something down so he can read it.

Putin and Xi must be salivating at the prospect that Jeffries and Schumer may be in charge next year.

If they go to Beijing, there will only be one dancing girl and day-old dim sum.

At this point, President Trump must get a few wins. He can’t be the Mets racking up two singles every game. Mr. Trump’s swagger has been in the dugout for a few weeks now. That has to change.

Or else Hakeem and Chuck will ascend. That will lead to “a party on” display for our adversaries. Perhaps some sailing in the Hormuz.

The November vote is coming up fast. And the totalitarians know it. Let the festivities begin.

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Highlights from O'Reilly's No Spin News

2026-05-15T22:00:00Z

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Far-Left Extremism, Trump

2026-05-15T12:50:00Z

Trump's China Trip Success

2026-05-15T07:00:00Z

President Trump’s excellent Chinese adventure turned out to be pretty good except for the Taiwan thing. As I reported, Beijing wants to control the island/nation and was blunt about it. Mr. Trump did not publicly engage, which was smart.

Taiwan is an emotional issue for the communists, even though its independence means little to the world. The controversy goes back to 1949, when Chiang Kai-shek escaped to the island just before Mao could cut his head off. We write about this in my book “Confronting Evil.”

China sees no reason to moderate its stance on Taiwan, so the situation will not go away. To America, it’s a distraction.

On the Iran front, it is likely China will help out somewhat. But we won’t know exactly how. That will be done secretly. But Xi understands Iran is bad for his business and has no loyalty to the Mullahs.

Expect the usual media undermining of the trip, even though the American press is essentially clueless about how the communists are behaving. We are not. We’ll have a full report on Monday.

Dr. Melanie Hart on the U.S.'s Relationship with China

2026-05-14T19:47:00Z

Dr. Melanie Hart, Ph.D., Senior Director of the Atlantic Council’s Global China Hub, weighs in on whether China has an interest in helping the U.S. with Iran and what she would advise President Trump to do.

O'Reilly & Sid Rosenberg on Trump's Chinese Strategy

2026-05-14T18:01:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Sid Rosenberg and dissects President Trump’s goals in China and how he will negotiate with the Chinese leadership.

Killing Time with Former Governor Andrew Cuomo

2026-05-14T16:00:00Z

Bill and Gov. Cuomo talk about New York’s legal actions against Donald Trump, James Comey, Pope Leo, and immigration.

We'll Do It LIVE! - Andrew Cuomo

2026-05-14T16:00:00Z

CUOMO I am not left enough.

O'REILLY We are in a deteriorating country.

CUOMO It's easier to spin hate.

O'REILLY He's a communist, there's no doubt he is.

CUOMO He's never managed a candy store. Free everything.

O'REILLY Are they stupid?

CUOMO It's all political BS.

O'REILLY Bill O'Reilly here, and welcome to our long-form podcast called We'll Do It Live, and if you don't know why we call it that, I'm not going to tell you, but you can look it up. Now, today we have a very stimulating guest, and you know who he is. I do a weekly hit on News Nation with Chris Cuomo. Here is his older brother, and I had to introduce you that way, Governor Andrew Cuomo, and we're pleased to have him here. We've got a lot to talk about. What I've got to say, and you don't have to comment on this, I thought that your brother, Chris, got hosed by CNN because there are ways to do that covering stories that involve your family. And CNN seemed to have it out for him. I don't know the situation. I haven't delved into it. But the fact that he stood up for you in a controversial situation, didn't back away, I think, speaks very well for him.

CUOMO Well, you're right. I think he was treated unfairly. And look, you are a journalist. You are also a family member. You also have a First Amendment right to speak about your opinion on a situation. And he was very clear, Bill, always to differentiate.

O'REILLY And if they didn't want him to do it, they could have just said, look, you just tell the audience that because of your family ties, you can't cover the story. I mean, that's all. And how many times has that been done? A ton of times.

CUOMO 100%, 100%.

O'REILLY So anyway, I want to get that on the...because I beat him up enough that I have to give him a compliment from now on.

CUOMO Was that a compliment?

O'REILLY That was. He was a standup guy for doing that. I don't have a brother, but if I did, I'd like a brother like him. Don't tell him that though. Okay, so here we are, and I'm surprised that the Democratic Party has gone so far left. Now, I'm not a party apparatchik, I am a registered independent in New York, I don't follow party politics, I do not care about them. I want problem solvers in office. But what I've seen, and you were three terms as governor here, you know, at the end, you got a little left. You were elected, as your father was, to be a moderate Democrat. Would that be accurate?

CUOMO Yes, sir.

O'REILLY So what the hell happened?

CUOMO I am still a moderate Democrat. What happened to the Democrats is the Democrats lost, right, to Donald Trump, and then they became lost. This is a party in transition. This is a party with a simmering civil war. We're trying to figure out our identity as Democrats. And you have a far left, and you always had a far-left. But this far left is much further left and is much louder, and is much more aggressive, and they have frightened the moderates into submission. It's not that they're...

O'REILLY How do you do that, though? You're not frightened, are you?

CUOMO No, no. But they threaten, they threaten. If you're a moderate Democrat, they are going to primary you. And the extremes have always been very strong in the primary process, whether it was far right, Tea party days, far left. In the primaries, they are very strong, and they are open and aggressive and hostile. And if you are a moderate Democrat, they are going to come after you, and they're going to challenge you. And they have a lot of money and a lot of organizations on the socialist side, on the communist side, on the anti-Israel side, and they have frightened the moderate Democrats into submission.

O'REILLY On the surface, that answer makes a lot of sense, but you went up against the communist Mamdani in your hometown, and he beat you. I was surprised. I thought you were going to wax him.

CUOMO Yeah, well, look, but that is the point you have in the primary, the far left...

O'REILLY It wasn't a primary, it was you, it was him, and it was Sliwa.

CUOMO Well, in the general, let's get to the general.

O'REILLY That's what I'm talking about.

CUOMO Well, first in the primary, it was disproportionately a far left vote, a younger vote.

O'REILLY Fine.

CUOMO Anti-Israel.

O'REILLY But you had a chance one-on-one with this guy, and he beat you.

CUOMO Yes. One-on-one, if you take, it was a three-way, if you took Curtis Sliwa out of the race.

O'REILLY Seven percent.

CUOMO Seven percent, it's basically a dead tie. And if you'd take Curtis Sliwa out of the races, I would have beaten him because Sliwa was attacking me every day as a sideshow on the debate stage bill. I think it's objectively fair to say on the debate stage, I beat Zohran clearly, but you then had Curtis, who would come to his defense. One-on-one, I would have beaten him.

O'REILLY But you should have beaten him four on one.

CUOMO In the primary.

O'REILLY No, in a major election. I mean, you're a three-term governor. Your legacy is your father was a moderate Democrat icon. I went through my correspondence last night. I have two letters from your father, and he was very astute in politics. And I was wondering what Mario would have thought about a communist beating his son for the mayoral...

CUOMO Yeah, Bill, this is a different Democratic party.

O'REILLY So all these people who used to be moderates are all crazy socialists now?

CUOMO You now have, well look, you never had the word socialist, right? Ten years ago nobody was a socialist.

O'REILLY Eugene Debs.

CUOMO Yeah, that's right. Nobody was a socialist. Zohran shows up at the May Day rally as a communist.

O'REILLY He's a communist, there's no doubt he is.

CUOMO So this never existed before. You have a whole generation of young people who or socialists/communists.

O'REILLY How did they get that way?

CUOMO Recently, in reaction to Trump, Bernie Sanders, AOC, no King's rallies. All across the country getting hundreds of thousands of young people engaged. And then these false promises, free everything, free buses, freeze the rent, free food, everything free, and this sense of indignation and social justice, no kings. Do away with the billionaires tax the rich.

O'REILLY And they buy all this, are they stupid?

CUOMO They are young and they buy it, they are young, and they buy it.

O'REILLY You were young, I was young, I never bought it, I knew where communism was from the jump.

CUOMO Yeah, well, it sounds good, everything. You're gonna freeze my rent? Great. Free buses? Great. Free grocery stores? Great. Tax the rich. Yeah! Screw the rich, you know, they're rich. I'm not. So it sounds good, and you had a disproportionately, these young people voted in massive numbers, and they're very organized. There's a lot of money behind this far-left movement.

O'REILLY Is this Soros money, these guys?

CUOMO This is Soros et al money.

O'REILLY Do you know why a guy like Soros, who lives in Westchester, fairly near where you once lived and has got all the money he could possibly have, why does he want a communist nation? Do you know?

CUOMO This is his philosophy, has been for a long time.

O'REILLY Would you never talk to him about it?

CUOMO No, no.

O'REILLY Because this guy did a lot of damage. Now you worked secretary of HUD for Bill Clinton.

CUOMO Yep.

O'REILLY Would you say Bill Clinton pretty astute politician?

CUOMO I think he was great president, great politician.

O'REILLY So I've talked to him a number of times, and the guy knows politics inside and out. Okay. I was surprised that a guy like him, maybe Hillary, others, Barack Obama, didn't come to your aid when the far left of your own party attacked you here. Letitia James, Hochul, the governor. Your own people took you out, but we didn't hear from the other people who knew you and knew what your public service record was. Were you surprised?

CUOMO Look, if you want loyalty in politics, get a dog, right, is the old expression. First, many of them did. Bill Clinton supported me in the mayoral election. And you're right, I was HUD secretary. I was with him from day one to the last day of the administration. And we did great work for this country. But it's back to the first point. The far left, Me Too movement, there was a lot of energy around the Me Too Movement. Nobody wanted to stand up to Me Too. And the far left of the party wanted me out.

O'REILLY Why?

CUOMO Because I was not far left enough. Which is ironic, by the way, because all my life I'm too liberal, right? I'm the first big state to pass marriage equality. New York! Highest minimum wage in the United States of America, New York, best gun law in the nation, New York. I'm too liberal all my life, but they are then so extreme that I am not left enough.

O'REILLY Okay. So you just didn't toe, but Hochul, she's, whatever it is on Thursday. I mean, right? Hochul's not an ideologue. I don't see a, Letitia James, absolutely. But Hochul is like, and you made Hochul.

CUOMO Hochul was my lieutenant governor. Yes, she I told her that I was going to run again, and I was not going to run with her again as lieutenant governor.

O'REILLY That's what did it, huh?

CUOMO That didn't help, but she was a conservative Democrat.

O'REILLY Yeah, Erie.

CUOMO From Erie County, Buffalo, she was against... Driver's licenses for immigrants. Eliot Spitzer proposed immigrant driver's licenses, which we wound up doing years later. But she, as a Democrat, stood up against the Democratic governor and said she refused, and if any immigrant walked in, she would call the customs police, the immigration police. So she was a very conservative Democrat.

O'REILLY But now she's not.

CUOMO Now she's hugging Mamdani, right? Why? Or maybe she did a 180-degree philosophical change. Yeah, or maybe the moderates are afraid of the far left, and she didn't want a primary. So you placate the far-left.

O'REILLY Yeah, the guy the lieutenant governor was going to primary her if she didn't stay in line.

CUOMO That's right.

CUOMO Okay. I got the fear element now with your law enforcement background, I mean, you're attorney general of New York. You know what you're talking about as far as uh crime and punishment. I was surprised you didn't stand up against the no-bail laws as much as you could have. You signed it. What's that all about? Don't we punish violent criminals anymore here?

CUOMO Yeah, the no-bail law is not actually a no-bail law. The law I proposed was subject to judicial discretion because, let's go back.

O'REILLY Judicial discretion? You know how many loons there are sitting on the bench in the city?

CUOMO Yeah, but you're accused of a crime. You're just accused. No one has found you guilty of anything. You go before a judge, he sets bail. The only people who wind up going to Rikers and not making bail are the poor people. You could sit in Rikers, Bill, for two years before you're ever heard, before you are ever before a Judge. And you've never been found guilty of anything. So, now what is the...

O'REILLY You could have done a speedy trial, or you could have done a whole bunch of-

CUOMO We have speedy trial laws, but the court system is backed up, etc. So what's the inverse? If you're dangerous, then we're going to hold you.

O'REILLY But they don't hold them.

CUOMO Well, that's judicial discretion. I wanted the judicial discretion.

O'REILLY But you knew the chaotic situation of the jurist population in New York. Everybody knows it. You got the poor guy pushing in front of the subway train from a four-time violent offender because the judge let him out in the Bronx just last week.

CUOMO Yeah, but many states, that is, judges not doing their job, right? Many states have judicial...

O'REILLY But they don't do their jobs.

CUOMO But you can't then say, Bill, so what's the inverse? What's the solution? As soon as you're accused, you go to jail, and you wait two years, maybe you have a trial, or you wait 2 years, and really, what you have to do is take a...

O'REILLY So this was a poor, fairness, basic bill.

CUOMO Yeah, because there is basic due process still, and we wind up with a system where we just imprisoned anyone accused.

O'REILLY Not anyone, violent crimes. Hard to get into the system in New York with Alvin Bragg and these people, and you know them. It's hard to get into the system.

CUOMO Well, that has gotten worse.

O'REILLY He does not prosecute crimes. It's up to 60, 65 percent.

CUOMO Yeah, that has gotten worse.

O'REILLY Now, COVID. You and Trump are buddies. You're pals, saying good things about each other, getting the boat in here that nobody ever used. All right, docking the boat over there. Trump moved on up. You still friends?

CUOMO COVID, look, Donald Trump and I go way back to Queen's days.

O'REILLY Sure.

CUOMO And he was, we went back and forth on COVID. We had our differences, there's no doubt. I would do a morning briefing.

O'REILLY But you were respectful.

CUOMO Yes. Yes. And he did aid New York. And New York was ground zero. You know, COVID. We're listening to this now, Hantavirus on a cruise ship.

O'REILLY Yeah.

CUOMO I tell you, I have PTSD from COVID, and I hear about this Hantavirus and it reminds me of COVID because COVID was here for months, and we never knew. If you remember what happened, COVID came to California. We're all looking at California and the state of Washington. And we said, oh, it came from China and it went to California, no, it didn't. And went from China to Europe. Europe got on a plane, came to New York.

O'REILLY But the bigger picture is this, you and President Trump worked together in a respectful way.

CUOMO Yes.

O'REILLY Could that happen today?

CUOMO Plus or minus. Yes.

O'REILLY You have no beef with him?

CUOMO No, look, yes, I have beefs with him, and he has beefs with me, but-.

O'REILLY But not overall.

CUOMO Not that you can't have a functional relationship, because you have to have a functional relationship.

O'REILLY But we don't in this country.

CUOMO Well, that's because we've gone partisan, we have partisan paralysis. First of all, as a Democratic governor or a Republican governor, who am I to say, well, politically, I don't like the president, so I'm not gonna cooperate with the president.

O'REILLY Did you call Minnesota lately?

CUOMO Yeah, but that's not, I believe that violates your fundamental premise of being in office, right? I represent Democrats, I represent Republicans. This is the President of the United States. We have to work together. Well, you have political differences, fine. But you can't let your personal differences make the relationship dysfunctional. Otherwise, you abrogate your responsibility.

O'REILLY But you were okay with Trump, and to this day, if you called him, he'd take your call?

CUOMO Yes, I believe so. And again, we have many differences on many issues, but...

O'REILLY Say you called him on Iran, which could blow up in everybody's face here, what would you tell him?

CUOMO Iran, look, first, I wish him success and this country success in Iran. If he is successful, Bill, he will have accomplished something great not just for this country but for this world. Iran has been a preeminent threat for decades.

O'REILLY You buy the uranium-seeking nuclear weapons?

CUOMO Yes, yes, I do. Or I buy the threat that they have it, and that happens to be enough, by the way. Everyone's talked about it for decades, nobody's done anything, and here you have a president who said, I'm going to do something. Now, do I believe he could have stood up in more of an orchestrated way and made a case to the American people and brought our allies along? Yes, but put that aside. Now, he wants peace. He needs peace. Those gas prices are going up, the more times they come close. Don't leave the job half done, I would say.

O'REILLY So you're a hawk on this one.

CUOMO You have to make, you have to win. You have to make a deal. You're not going to get regime change. Okay. But you have to say there is an independent force that is on the ground. We're going to make sure the enriched uranium is gone. We're gonna make sure they can't create a nuclear weapon, and you can sleep well for 20 years knowing that.

O'REILLY But that's going to take infantry on the ground in Iran. And after Iraq, the Americans don't have the appetite for that.

CUOMO That we have put independent agencies, not U.S. Troops, independent agencies.

O'REILLY What does that mean? What's an independent agency that goes in?

CUOMO Independent agency, let the...

O'REILLY NATO's not going anywhere.

CUOMO No, the U.N. Put together an independent agency to...

O'REILLY The U.N.? They can't even do Haiti.

CUOMO There has to be, we can't leave the table with Iran saying, I promise.

O'REILLY I understand, but how do you rectify the situation without putting American soldiers on the ground in that God-forsaken country?

CUOMO This is the art of the deal, as the President would say, but there has to be a presence to police this. What, are you going to come home with a piece of paper and say, hey, they signed.

O'REILLY No, you got inspectors every two or three weeks, have to go in there. That's what you get.

CUOMO 100%. Right.

O'REILLY Right. But in order to impose that, you're going to have to send in troops to force the mullahs to sign it. They're not going to sign it.

CUOMO Well, he can't leave unless he has that inspection protocol in place.

O'REILLY And you don't have a magic formula yet?

CUOMO I don't have a magic formula, but look, otherwise you didn't win. What's the option?

O'REILLY He'll come off as the big loser, and the Democrats will win in November in a landslide, but it is a very complicated situation.

CUOMO It is complicated, and I'll tell you what gets me. You had the Strait of Hormuz there. You knew it. You knew that they used it before. It's like having the global economic jugular vein right in front of their country. And, you know, with these modern drones now, you don't need ballistic missiles. They have total control with that Strait of Hormuz. And why we didn't anticipate this to this degree, of course, they wouldn't close the Strait of Hormuz.

O'REILLY Fog of war. I mean, I don't, I can't answer that question, and Hegseth has not answered it. Hegseth says, Secretary of War, we control the Strait, and we can escort anybody in and out of there. That's what he says. Now, off the big national picture, all right, then you get back to a situation where not only has Iran at this point, and it could change in an hour, okay, paralyzed us, but the anti-Semitism that you grew up with, and so did Trump in Queens, you know, I'm in Levittown, I am right down the street, okay. That used to be under control in this city. That's why all the Jews came here. Now, it's out of control. Is that squarely on the progressive left?

CUOMO Bill, no. It started with the progressive left, but now the submissive moderates have jumped on board. And I tell you, I would never have believed this. You mentioned my father. God rest his soul. Thank God he's not here to see this. The Jewish community was integral to New York. They started coming in 1640, 200 years before your people and my people even thought about it. Yes, with the financial capital. They started finance for us. I have two Jewish brothers-in-law. We grew up together. How New York, New York has the highest incidence of anti-Semitism in my lifetime. Increasing exponentially, the ADL just did a report. It was a 182% increase in January, the month this mayor took office. This mayor ran basically, saying, I associate with Hamas. And look, you wanna be pro-Palestinian? God bless you. You wanna say that Israel was hyper-aggressive? God bless. But to then morph from, I disagree with Israel, to I'm anti-Semitic, and I'm gonna be hostile to American Jewish people. How do you make that transition? And how do we allow it to happen? And now the Democrats, everybody's afraid because the pro-Palestinian support is very high. My Democratic primary, close to 70% of the people, pro-Palestinians, Israel has been hyper-aggressive.

O'REILLY And that's why they voted for Mamdani.

CUOMO One hundred percent. And he would not back up an inch. I'm pro-Israel 100%. He would back up an inch. Associated with guys like Hassan Piker, who said America deserved 9-11, which is the same theory that justifies? Hamas raping Israelis in the settlement right you deserve you deserved it. He didn't back away at all, globalized the Intifada, which means kill all Jews. He would not condemn the phrase.

O'REILLY Well, he didn't accept the law that would prevent people demonstrating near schools with...

CUOMO And think about that. He vetoed the buffer zone law, the buffer zone law.

O'REILLY The buffer zone law, which would make the city safer.

CUOMO Yes, but by the way, that was even a token. All the buffer zone laws said, it was passed by the city council, you can't harass students going into a school in a way that could impede their entering the school, and the police will set a buffer zone that's appropriate. You can still protest, but you have to stay 50 feet away, 20 feet away. You can't impede.

O'REILLY Right.

CUOMO People going into a school.

O'REILLY He didn't want it.

CUOMO He vetoes that bill.

O'REILLY Right.

CUOMO Why? First of all, it gave the police power. And part of the far left were anti-police, defund the police, police have too much power. And it would curb protesters, maybe limit free speech, which it didn't. You could still protest, curse, do whatever you want to do. You just couldn't harass, intimidate within that buffer zone to the school. And he vetoed it. You had two terrorists.

O'REILLY Do you think he's an anti-Semite, Mamdani?

CUOMO There, you have to look into somebody's soul. But is he anti-Israel? Yes. Does he associate with antisemitic people? Yes. Does he associate with pro-Hamas people? Yes. And has he done anything while this anti-Semitism is raging, and you have Jewish people in this city afraid to walk the streets, has he done anything to assuage that? No.

O'REILLY It's pretty sad, that's for sure.

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O'REILLY Now, going back to your tenure as governor, one of the things that hurt you in the perception of Democrats, obviously, you running in the primary and all that, was the nursing home thing. Now, when I analyzed the story, it was chaos. I'm being honest here. I mean, I could have easily hammed you like everybody else did, but it's not what we do here. But the amount of people with COVID who had nowhere to go was more than a hundred thousand in the city of eight and a half million. I mean, people didn't know where to go, and they had the disease, so they wound up back in the nursing home, and then it spreads in there, and you get killed. All right, now some of the prominent media came after you for that. What was your thought process while this was going on?

CUOMO First, this was a case of first impression. It was chaos. Ironically, when you look back, not ironically, sadly, January, February, March, the number of deaths from pneumonia spike. March, they diagnosed COVID. January, February, those were not pneumonia deaths. They were COVID. The doctors didn't know there was any such thing as COVID. So it was chaos because as soon as it hit in this city with this density was everywhere immediately. No vaccines, no quarantine facilities, that's why I said the hantavirus reminds me. They're trying to come up now with a test for the hantavirus, and they don't have one. By the way, Nebraska is working on one, which brought me right back to there was no test, et cetera. Also, it became very political, right? And the deaths in nursing homes became a political topic. But I'll give you one fact that'll blow your mind. All is said and done, years, now years, right, five, six years. When you look at the final numbers, the percentage of death of people in nursing homes, by the federal government, CDC, Republican administration, Democratic administration, after all the numbers have been tallied, New York is number 38 in the country for the number of people who died in nursing homes. Number 38, which means 37 states had a higher rate of death in nursing homes, which is incredible, Bill, because we also had it first by surprise. The other states had notice. They knew what was coming. They watched us every day. We were number 38. A lot of political noise, a lot of smoke.

O'REILLY A lot of media.

CUOMO A lot of media. When the numbers come out, number 38.

O'REILLY Would you have done anything differently?

CUOMO Oh, I would have done everything differently. We were checking nobody at airports. We had no test. We had no quarantine facilities. We couldn't get masks. We were sending planes to China to buy masks. There was no laws that dealt with quarantine and hospitals, et cetera.

O'REILLY Right. A totally unique situation. Fauci, a fraud?

CUOMO I think Fauci did the best with what he knew at the time.

O'REILLY But he came across as going, I know everything.

CUOMO Well...

O'REILLY Come on. You know he did.

CUOMO Well, I think, look, I think Fauci was acting on what he knew, and he was trying to bring calm to the country. I did those daily briefings. You had New Yorkers on the edge, Bill. And in a situation like this, the real enemy is panic, right? And New Yorkers were close to panic. So I did briefings every morning. And I slowed everybody down. Let me tell you where we are today. This is the number of infections today. This is the number of lives lost today. This is what we learned today. Here's the information, and the information gives you a sense of control. You have some sense of control because you have the information. And I religiously did it every morning. I wasn't sleeping at night, but seven days a week, I did it. Just to give you that information, and here are the facts. They're not Democratic facts, Republican facts, they're just facts.

O'REILLY Yeah, but people believe what they want to believe, you know that.

CUOMO Well, in the beginning, before it became political, people, party had nothing to do with it.

O'REILLY No, but it came political real fast.

CUOMO It became political real fast because it was a presidential election year. And the Republicans were very nervous about getting blamed. And people started to say, well, where's the federal government taking control? Why are the governors in control? Why is Cuomo in control in New York and Newsom in California, and everyone has to buy their own stuff, and everyone else has to come up with their own policy, why doesn't, where is the federal government? That made it political. In the election year, Republicans pushed back, and they said, it's the Democratic governors because it started in the Northeast. So it was New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania. It's the democratic governors who are at fault.

O'REILLY But nobody was at fault, I mean it was, what the public wanted was honesty, and when Fauci got into the Wuhan lab stuff, he came across as not being honest.

CUOMO Nobody wanted politics, it always becomes political. Everybody's pointing the finger. And COVID, months from an election, everybody was pointing the finger.

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O'REILLY This is a difficult question for me to ask you, but I think it's a valid question. So if your father were still alive and he was watching you get hosed by the far left, which kind of destroyed your political career at that time. What advice do you think he would have given you? Did you ever think about that question? Cause you're probably one of the smartest politicians ever.

CUOMO Sure, sure. Look, he was a man of tremendous principle, didn't really give a damn for the politics of the moment. He was about principle. And there is nothing that this far left is talking about, Bill, that he would adhere to, or I would adhere to.

O'REILLY Not even the trans playing sports against girls?

CUOMO This was not taking a step back. I was not, look, these, first of all, this is all political symbolism. This new mayor, he doesn't know anything about government. There's no government here, there's no professionalism here. He was a two-term legislator that never showed up for work, he's never managed the candy store, right? This is all a political symbolism, I'm a socialist, we're no kings. We're gonna take the money from the rich. I'm gonna give you free groceries, free buses, and everything free. It's all political BS. And no, no, he would, I would not be his son. He'd probably disown me if I were to capitulate to that.

O'REILLY So I would have said, fight it out, slug it out.

CUOMO Fight it out, you lose, you lose, but you fight it out, and that's what I did. My record, as a progressive, what a progressive originally meant, they're not progressives.

O'REILLY Theodore Roosevelt was the original progressive.

CUOMO Yes, and then FDR for progressive, I have one of the original posters, FDR, for progressive government. Yes, nobody was more progressive than me. Nobody was more advanced civil rights, civil liberties. Nobody was more activist as a governor. Look what I accomplished, right? Things that nobody wanted to go near. New LaGuardia Airport. Worst airport in the United States of America, but nobody did a damn thing. New airport, new Moynihan train hall after 30 years. Rehabbed the part of Penn that goes to the Long Island Railroad. You're a Long Island guy. New third track for the Long Island Railroad. Why? Because there were only two tracks for the Long Island Railroad.

O'REILLY But that's nuts and bolts. I mean, you know, look, the bigger picture is that, and you spotlighted it a few minutes ago, this is the ultimate power game. There are no rules in this game, all right? You got the media, which is a player now. They think they can shape the votes of people. Both sides, both right-wing and left-wing media, and they play to their choir. And they boom, boom, boom, it doesn't matter if it's true, they're just going to put it out there. And then you get the money men, the guy looking for advantage to make big money in Manhattan, you know, Mamdani's going up against them now, and they're all going, blank you, we're going to Florida. Then what? Okay, who's going to pay the taxes? Mamdani doesn't think that far ahead, he looks to me like he governs from day to day. Whatever emotion of the day is that he whacks in there. But when you have that deterioration of the political process, and believe me, we have it now, we are in a deteriorating country as far as politics are concerned. The rules have changed. Your father might not even get elected now, okay? Because he's not an ideologue. He's not going in there trying to serve one constituency. You know, he wanted to make things better. But if you do that, you come up against a powerful vested interest. Look at the New York Times. They think they're kinmakers, right? Okay, what's their latest? Their latest is that Jews are raping Arabs? That's what we got now?

CUOMO Look, this goes back to your first point, Bill. What they are doing is hurtful to the state of New York. We are hemorrhaging jobs. We are hemorrhaging wealth.

O'REILLY Chasing the big boys out of here.

CUOMO You're chasing not only the big boys out, but the taxes are so high, you're chasing middle-class people out.

O'REILLY Oh, sure.

CUOMO And they're going to Florida, they're gonna Texas, they're going' to North Carolina. You're chasing' the jobs out. This division and partisanship is a cancer. It is driving the extremes politically, because, let's be honest, politics for a politician? It's easier to spin the negative than the positive. It's easy to spin hate and combat. So you have the Democrats demonizing the Republicans, the Republicans demonizing more and more polarization. And then you have The Press, which is a player, and they're playing the same game, which is, you listen to MSNOW, Trump is the devil. You listen to Fox, you get a totally different story. So yes, you're putting a cleaver down this country that is pushing us to an irreparable abyss. And the redistricting is going to make it permanent in a way that will be irreversible.

O'REILLY But that's not going to work because of the skin color aspect. Do you think President Trump should tone it down?

CUOMO I think President Trump is looking at a midterm. I think the midterm is going to be problematic for the Republicans historically.

O'REILLY He's gotta ratchet it up

CUOMO No, I think part of what is going to hurt the Republicans, it's going to be Iran, it's gonna be gas, it's going to be all those symptomatic issues. But, and you're a student of history, which I appreciate, this country has always been skeptical of overly powerful government and autocratic government and feels more comfortable with a balance of power. Trump, our strength is our weakness. He is so dominant, so dominant, rolls the Republicans, there are no Democrats. It's Trump 24 hours a day. I think the Democrats are gonna say, people, the country is gonna say, let's bring some balance here. Let's reduce the drama. There's too much drama. I have to live my life, Bill. I don't wanna wake up every morning having to worry about who we bombed.

O'REILLY But people are entrenched. They are entrenched in their views of the country and politics. Now I'm going to take a time out here. Our Concierge Members and Premium Members are going to get another 10-15 minutes of Killing Time. We appreciate all of you around the world watching We'll Do It Live, and we'll be back in a moment with Killing Time.

Killing Time with Former Governor Andrew Cuomo

2026-05-14T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY What did you think when Donald Trump was being charged by the authorities in New York of Jaywalking and failing to keep his stoop clean? It was so outrageous. Eighty-three million dollars to some woman who says that she was assaulted at Bloomingdale's?

CUOMO Look...

O'REILLY Which is, I'm sorry, I've been to Bloomingdale's. It's pretty hard to do that.

CUOMO Look, you want to talk about the cancer that this society is facing? Yes, it's hyper-partisanship. Yes, it's political. The worst of it is when the justice system becomes a political tool. Now, who fired the first shot? Was it Attorney General Barr with the Mueller report, etc.? Was it Tish James? Who fired the first shot? Trump is now retaliating, but did Trump go first? Whoever fired the first shot, it has to stop because this is a politicization of the It's just a system that is...

O'REILLY But it helps them to do it. It helps Bragg to do it, the district attorney in Manhattan.

CUOMO Yeah, but shame on the American people. Shame on the American people, shame on New Yorkers. There was a poll that said exactly what you said, that they were supportive of Bragg charging Trump, even though they didn't know what the Trump charges were. That's not the justice system.

O'REILLY Right. No due process.

CUOMO I was an assistant DA, I was the attorney general. If I target you, I can indict you. You give me 10 years of your taxes, I will find a reason to indict you. I indict you, you're bankrupt, and your reputation is shot. Targeting people politically, that is the antithesis of what we're about.

O'REILLY There's a little bit more to it than that, and let's take Comey, for example. So President Trump believes this is a corrupt man who used the power of the FBI to do heinous things. That's what the president of the United States believes, okay? So because he believes it so fervently, he's asked his Justice Department to see if that's true, to come up with evidence, and the seashells aren't going to make it. You better have more evidence, or you're just going to get it thrown out, okay? But it's a matter of—and I think you and I have both in our lives gone through the same thing—when somebody does something heinous to you or your family, you don't want them to do it to another family. You see? And that's where Trump's coming from. He doesn't need it politically because he's a populist. He's got his MAGA people already in place. He's doing it because he is genuinely outraged about...

CUOMO I got it. I get it. I truly get it, and again, I was the attorney general, I was in the Manhattan DA's office, and look, you can believe a guy is a bad guy, but there are still rules.

O'REILLY Yeah, you gotta have the evidence.

CUOMO You have to have the evidence, and there are a lot of bad guys out there, but you have to a charge, and what I hope for Todd Blanche, restore the integrity to that position. What I don't like about Comey is what did the American people hear? Seashells on the seashore. That's why he got indicted. And you know what the American people say? More bullshit.

O'REILLY That's true.

CUOMO More political bullshit.

O'REILLY They gotta have more that they're gonna put out on it. But the theory is that you, and I wrote this in my book, Confronting Evil, if you don't confront evil, it gets stronger.

CUOMO But you don't do it with seashells, yeah, then you have to have a case. He wants, he believes Tish James is corrupt, great. But then you have to have a case.

O'REILLY Well, they've got a case against James, it's just not big enough.

CUOMO Yeah, it's not...

O'REILLY Because they'd have to arrest half of Virginia.

CUOMO That's right. Yeah, that is exactly right.

O'REILLY Right. But she did it.

CUOMO Yeah, but you, yes, but it's not enough. You have to have a real case, and when you don't have a real case, you erode confidence in the justice system, and then everybody believes everybody is full of it. That's what I don't like for Blanche with this Comey case. If he had evidence, he should have come with the other evidence and not seashells on the seashore.

O'REILLY Okay. Last question. So you're a Roman Catholic. I know your father went to mass all the time, right? I don't know whether you do. I'm not even going to ask that, but the pope versus the president. Where do you come down on that?

CUOMO First of all, I'm sticking with the Pope. No, no, no. You know, politics only goes so far. I'm sticking with the Pope. Catholic school education, elementary school, Marist Brothers, in high school, Archbishop Malloy, Fordham Law School, Fordham College, I'm sticking with the pope, Bill. When the day comes, and I'm at the pearly gates, I want to say I was with your guy.

O'REILLY Now, you know, it's all about migration, though. That's what drives the Vatican crazy about the people. Francis was the same way. But look, the argument is that you've got to render to Caesar. If Caesar's got a border law, you've gotta enforce it.

CUOMO And look, there is no doubt that on migration, the Biden administration made terrible mistakes, terrible. Roll back.

O'REILLY Ridiculous, incomprehensible.

CUOMO Incomprehensible, and what's worse is they knew it. I was head of the Governor's Association at the time. They redid the, they said during their campaign against Trump, we're gonna do away with Remain of Mexico. What was gonna happen when hundreds of thousands of Mexicans walked into Texas, and the border states, and those governors were saying this, they actually stopped the law for a year in court, and they were saying to the Biden administration, what's the plan? Where do these people go? There was no plan. And that's why the Southern governors, and I think, overreacted, but they put them on a bus and said, oh, yeah, go send them to New York, send them to Martha's Vineyard, but it was a terrible mistake. Trump was right when he started. We're going to deport the worst of the worst, illegal criminals. He was right. They went too far. ICE went too far. When you kill innocent American citizens, Bill, that is a problem, and people don't forget that. And Alex Pretti and Renee Good, that was a shock to the American people. I don't care if you're a red, blue, purple. That was shock to see that on video. Now, I believe the president has sort of self-regulated.

O'REILLY Yeah, he's walking it back.

CUOMO Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay, that was a good interview, and I really appreciate the time. I know you're busy, and I'm just a punk from Levittown. So, you know, you had to come down a little bit here, but I'm glad you did. And you know there'll be interesting things ahead for you. I'm going to predict that right now.

CUOMO Well, I've been watching you and Chris, and I can't let you guys have all the fun, you know.

O'REILLY Well, you know, you need to tell your brother, number one, when I speak, he listens, okay? That's number one. And number two, that he can lift as many weights as he wants. He's never going to be as smart as me.

CUOMO Well, first of all, he's always had a listening problem. That's not just you, Bill.

O'REILLY Thank you, Governor. Appreciate you coming in.

CUOMO Thank you. Thanks for having me.

We'll Do It LIVE! - Andrew Cuomo

2026-05-14T16:00:00Z

Former Governor Andrew Cuomo (D) joins Bill for a “no BS” interview about the Democratic Party, the rise of socialism/communism within, and the extreme taking it over. He talks about his mayoral loss to Zohran Mamdani, President Trump, and governing during COVID.

Killing Time

2026-05-14T15:35:00Z

Iran, the U.S.'s Relationship with China

2026-05-14T15:33:00Z

Andrew Cuomo on We'll Do It LIVE!

2026-05-14T07:49:00Z

Interviewed Governor Andrew Cuomo yesterday for our long-form “We’ll Do It LIVE!” podcast. Some surprising stuff. He supports taking Iran’s uranium by force. He explains how he lost the mayoral race to Mamdani. Also, he addresses the COVID nursing home thing and his relationship with President Trump.

This is an old school interview, no BS. Hope you will check it out.

In addition, we are closely monitoring the President’s China excursion. Frustrating story because the information flow is restrained. It will take a while to see if anything was gained.

We are on it, however, and we’ll get the facts. Enjoy the upcoming weekend.

Iran's Impact on the Economy

2026-05-14T07:45:00Z

Bill reviews new polling revealing the effects of Trump’s policies on Americans’ finances and the midterm elections.

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2026-05-14T01:07:00Z

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Iran's Impact on the Economy, Dr. Melanie Hart on the U.S.'s Relationship with China, the Future of Iran & Alejandro Mayorkas Criticizes Biden's Immigration Approach

2026-05-13T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to another edition of the No Spin News. Wednesday, May 13th, 2026. Stand up for your country. We are reporting tonight from Manhattan, where in a few moments I'm going to interview former governor Andrew Cuomo for our Do It Live, long form. That should be interesting, right? For me, it will be. And, of course, we're tracking the Trump-Xi meeting in Beijing, but it's really hard to get anything solid out of that. They're having tea, and they're dancing, and all right, but what's really going on behind the scenes, I'm working it like crazy. But I don't have anything yet, really solid. Okay, I know the parameters of what President Trump would like to get, and Xi as well, but we reported that all this week, but I don't know the specifics. On the Western front, all is quiet. That was the name of a very famous book, with Iran, but that's going to have to change because, as we'll show you in a moment, the American public has turned with ferocity against the Trump administration on the Iranian issue. And the president knows it, I mean, he may not acknowledge it publicly, but he knows. And so something's going to have to give there. And we're all waiting. That is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo.

New CNN poll. Not a honest poll because it's U.S. Adults, 1,499. Not people who vote, not people who pay attention. And as we showed you the other day, when you have just adults, you can have a poll that has 14 percent of Trump supporters. How would you know? Nobody would know. So Donald Trump got 77 million votes, and he easily defeated Kamala Harris with that number, but CNN doesn't have to replicate that number. It can use any number it wants. So be skeptical, but I gotta give you the data. First question, how do you think Donald Trump's policies have affected the cost of living in your community? Increased 77%, decreased 8%, no effect 16%. 77 is a big number. Okay, second question, do you think Donald Trump's policies have... Improved economic conditions 22%, worsened them 65%, no effect 12, another big, big number that is going to matter if things stay the same. Now, if there is a breakthrough and we get the Iranians to sign a treaty, they will not enrich uranium, and the Straits of Hormuz will be open, things will turn around, in my opinion. But I think that's a foregone. So Iran has a huge advantage, and we've been over this. Xi and China knows all the Iranians gotta do is sit it out. They don't do anything because the American economy, inflation, is being harmed. And the world economy, including China, is being harmed, too. But I'm not sure China, you know, they want to hurt the USA. They're not our friends. They can have all the tea they want. Okay? Now, tomorrow wraps it up in Beijing. And then Friday, the president will be back. I'd hold a press conference, an extensive one and answer the questions. If I were Mr. Trump, I hope he does. You don't have to give away national security. You know, 77 percent, that's an overwhelming number if the Republicans want to hold the House and the Senate in November.

Now, it's a short-term gain, short-term pain for a long-term gain. I understand all that. But believe me when I tell you. People get worried about their finances, there's usually a regime change. No matter what country you're in. Now, yesterday, the media started to pile on because they despise Donald Trump. And the New York Times is the league leader in that. So they ran a story, the Times did, that says the Trump administration has overstated the military success in Iran. This is what the New York Times says. The problem with the story is it's all anonymous sources. Okay, there's nobody identified. And everybody knows The Times doesn't like Trump. So they can write a story like this, find somebody who doesn't like Trump in the administration, and just quote that person, sources close to the story. You know the game. And the game is being played every single day in order to hurt Donald Trump. So the piece basically says that Iran now has access to 30 missile sites that it did not have access to just a few weeks ago. Who knows? I mean, where does that come from? Is somebody from the New York Times overcounting them? You know, I'm very skeptical of any of this stuff. And in my Sunday column, which is still posted on BillOReilly.com, I show you. I show the proof of how this kind of stuff is bogus. But you go back to the polling. So, Atlas, which is a good polling center, never poll out, and they say, question if the midterm elections for the House were held today. Who would you most likely vote for? Democrat 55, Republican 40. So that's big, okay? Second one, provided that these candidates were who you would vote for in Democratic primaries, who are the 228 presidential election leaders? Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, number one on the Democratic side, it's crazy. Pete Buttigieg and Gavin Newsom. That's a weak bench. On the Republican side, we reported this yesterday, Marco Rubio number one, JD Vance two, Ron DeSantis three. So, the Democrats are gaining in a hypothetical midterm vote if we're held tomorrow.

Now, one more thing, and this is very important. So all of the high oil prices, which Iran is responsible for, and some people blame the USA, but come on, I mean, it's all about nukes, they, if Iran can moderate or Israel and the USA can destroy the structure there, which could happen militarily, those oil prices will go down fast. Because there's plenty of oil, you just can't get it out of there. So that is almost unique in the sense that it's not a hopeless situation, it can turn. And obviously, people who don't like Trump don't really want it to turn, and the people who do like Trump, obviously, they're on his side. Tomorrow, the president is expected to depart China about 6 p.m. Local time, remember China is 12 hours ahead of us, and then he'll be back on Friday. Okay, anything else here? I think that is my update for you, and joining us now from Washington is Dr. Melanie Hart, Senior Director of the Atlantic Council's Global China Hub, which is an outfit that develops strategies to address challenges posed by China's rising global influence. Would you say, Doctor, that you guys are hostile to China? Do you see them as an enemy to the United States?

"We see China as a competitor, sometimes an adversary, but also there's space for cooperation where it makes sense. And just to give you a concrete example, China's been developing some novel cancer therapies. If Chinese scientists come up with a new cancer therapy that can cure Americans, we'd love to have access to that, right? So we keep our minds open, where we can do great things cooperatively that doesn't injure American interests, let's do that. But where we need to compete to defend American interests, let's do that too."

But you know as well as I do that for every concession China makes to the USA, it wants something back. They're just not going to give stuff away. They're going to go, all right, we'll let you take a look at the cancer medicine, but you've got to do this for us.

"China always tries to have a tit for tat dynamic with the United States. So that's what President Trump will be dealing with in Beijing over tea, as you put it, with Xi Jinping."

Okay, but the overwhelming problem now is Iran. Do you have anything to bring to the table new about that situation vis-à-vis China?

"That may be the overwhelming problem for the Trump administration. That is not the overwhelming problem for Xi Jinping and the Chinese. Beijing does not intend to help the United States out of the Iran situation or the Strait of Hormuz, a Chinese tanker... Well, for example, a Chinese tanker made it through the Strait just today. They're doing fine on the energy front. And there, if you look at Chinese government sources and what they're saying about the US effort in Iran. They expect the U.S. to fail. So what you see China doing, if you assess their behavior, is they are calibrating their actions to avoid making this a fight between Beijing and Washington, right? So they're being careful not to provide missiles to Iran or to help them militarily, but they're still buying Iranian oil. And just the other day, Beijing ordered the Chinese teapot refineries that refine the Iranian oil, to violate U.S. Sanctions, the new sanctions from the Trump administration, trying to clamp down on the shipments of oil from Iran to China, Beijing said, don't abide by that."

So that's nothing unusual because Xi wanted to put himself in a position of asking for something from the United States, whether it be opening up talks on Taiwan or better trade agreements, which Xi needs. He needs that from the USA. So he's going to push it to the wall before the chats even start, right?

"I see no evidence to indicate that China is interested to make a deal with the United States on Iran. They have plenty of leverage over us with critical minerals. They'll use critical minerals in our dependence on China for rare earths to push the Trump administration for whatever it is that China wants, and they have a long list. They will also use the fact that President Trump wants China to buy large amounts of American soybeans, beef, Boeing aircraft. The Trump team wants a high purchase number. Buying goods from American farmers and American companies, that also gives Xi Jinping some leverage. There's just no, from Beijing's perspective, there's no reason for them to help the U.S. Out on Iran. They may, they will be careful to not cross the reddest of red lines, and that is being caught providing weapons to Iran. And I think we saw President Trump allude that they had caught evidence of that and that China had promised to back off. That's exactly what they did with Russia and Ukraine. We've seen that movie before."

Okay, and it doesn't really matter anyway, because the United States and Israel could destroy those weapons fairly quickly, and the Chinese know that. All right, I mean, that's certainly a pessimistic view of it, but probably realistic view. So then you come back to UDC, the president does, and he's facing 77 percent of the American public blaming him for higher prices on not just gas but food and everything else. So he has to do something militarily, I would imagine, against Iran. He has to move against Iran.

"You know, it's a good point with gas prices. You know, China's gas prices have risen a lot less than ours. Here in the US, our retail gasoline is up 51% since the war; China's is up only 39%. So they're not feeling the same pain at the pump as we are. We rely on oil and gas. That's about 70% of our energy mix. China relies on coal. So oil and gas is only about 30% of their energy mix. Where are things, I think the interesting question that you're really asking is, where is everybody's pain point? President Trump has a clear pain point that you are talking about with American voters, and at what point do we begin to decide that the costs are too high? China does have a pain point too; it's just a little further down the line. China's okay right now from an energy perspective, but China's problem is gonna be if the rest of the global economy is tanking from this energy shortage, they can't buy Chinese goods anymore. So China does have a pain point, it's just a longer fuse than ours. And then the other question is, what's Iran's pain point? You know, where are our relative leverage to each other? And I think we're gonna find out in real time, which is a bit of a scary thing."

And it's going to be very fast. China doesn't want disorder. That's the big thing for the Xi government. As you pinpointed, they have to sell their stuff abroad. And they don't want disorder in the worldwide marketplace. So that gives Trump a slight advantage. And I don't know whether Xi, on the sly, never do it in public, will say, look, we'll help you out here. But I don't know how he could help Trump out because these mullahs are so fanatical, they're willing to die, they don't care about their own people, it's not like a regular country, it is a terrorist state. And they've never respected their own people. They shoot them down in the street if they dissent. So I don't know how you put pressure on a government like that, the only way you're going to have to do it is just to destroy their communication centers. Seems to me I don't see option B.

"There's a good parallel between Iran and North Korea, you know, where they have that strict authoritarian system."

But China controls North Korea because it doesn't want disorder. And North Korea is so small and so weak that China in a day can go in there and do whatever it wants.

"China doesn't control North Korea to the extent that a lot of folks in Washington assume. Kim Jong-un is a tough character. He has nuclear weapons. He sometimes does things that anger Beijing. One thing that's common between the two, China doesn't fully control North Korea or the Iranians or the Russians, but China does want all three to stay in place because they keep the US on the back foot. And so China's in this weird situation between, on the one hand, they're happy to have us back-footed, but to your point, they don't want things to spiral out of control to the extent that Beijing takes a hit."

But if you're going to tell me that North Korea doesn't do what they're told by Beijing, I'm going to dissent from that.

"We'll have to disagree on that one then."

OK, that's all right. But the Chinese made it quite clear to Pyongyang, you get out of line, you launch a missile at somebody or something like that, you're going to get punished militarily by us. And the substructure in North Korea, and they're starving now. Those people are starving now. So they got no card to play. But let's get back to our final question on Iran. So you're a presidential adviser, OK? And Donald Trump comes back from Beijing, and he has no assurance that Xi or anybody else over there is going to help him with Iran. It was all nice, and they're going to announce trade agreements, and they were all friends, and they are going to have another conference coming up in another month. All of that will happen. But he doesn't have anything concrete to show the American people or the world markets. What do you do? Do you hit them militarily? Do you wait it out? What do you do if you are advising President Trump? What do you tell him to do?

"That's a great question. So, there's really two different American objectives left on the table. One is to eliminate Iran's nuclear program. The other is to open the Strait of Hormuz. The regime in Tehran has made it very clear that they have no intention of giving up their nukes. And if the United States goes in and attacks Iran and tries to destroy the nuked militarily, we run the risk that they just get dispersed across the Middle East and come over to the United States. And elsewhere through terrorist networks that are a lot harder to track than they are when they're in Tehran. In the meantime, it seems like getting to agreement on opening the Strait of Hormuz is a more near-term objective that's actually achievable. The entire global community, everybody but Iran, agrees that the Strait of Hormuz should be open. China has even stated publicly that they agree with that. So if I were advising the president, I would say, let's do that first. And buy some time to figure out what is a broader array of options on the nuclear program given that the regime in Iran is hunkered down and not giving any ground on that."

All right, but remember, President Trump has, you know, quite clearly said the reason for all of this is to stop Iran from getting enriched uranium to make a nuclear weapon. And if he backs away from that, he looks weak, last word.

"I'll just say that from my perspective as an American, I would want the U.S. President to make decisions based on the information he or she has at the time. If that information changes, the decision should change and just explain that to the American people. I think people would respect a fact-based decision if the facts shift over time and there's openness about that."

Okay, doctor, very good interview. Thank you for helping us out. I hope we can talk again. On the social front, I'm going to use the word social, but it's more of an emotional thing. There are people, as we all know, that are rooting for the United States to lose. And I discussed that with Chris Cuomo last night on NewsNation. Go.

"So, if you're an American rooting for your country, you want it to all go our way over there, correct?"

"Uh, yes, but I think that it is unfair to accuse people of a lack of patriotism because they look at this state at all, but that's the implication. So if you don't, if you have any criticisms, if you have concerns about the setup and the factors and bringing over big business guys when you're supposed to be helping the American worker, that means that you want America to lose. I reject that premise. That's all I'm saying."

"Look, I didn't get into any of that."

"But it's by implication."

"I got into a very simple question."

"Right."

"Simple question is, this is the structure. This is what's happening. Do you want your country to win, and you answer it appropriately? I believe, yes."

"We'll see."

Okay, now I don't think Cuomo wants America to lose. I don't like the we'll see business. That's a fallback now for every television moderator. Oh, we'll see. What good does that do? Yeah, all right, fine. Why am I? It's like at the end of the day, how many of those are you gonna have to absorb? Okay, we're not gonna see anything. Things will unfold, but we don't know how. But if you're not rooting for America to have a positive outcome from this Beijing meeting. Then you're not patriotic. Remember Kenny Rogers, okay? There'll be time enough for counting when the dealing’s done, not while it's in the process. Okay, so here I am, I don't know if my arm is long enough to pat myself on the back the way I want to, but this whole thing began on February 28th of this year, this Iranian thing. On March 3rd, just a couple of days later, here's what I said. Go.

"After the State of the Union, I said... President Trump's speech is going to swing independence over to the Republican side. Now, that might not last. Certainly, if Iran goes south, the president's going to have some problems. This is a big gamble on his part, big. Now, if it turns out like Venezuela, he's going to be a hero. But boy, he's rolling the dice."

And absolutely true, and I told the president that myself, but he is a gambler, he is willing to take risks, but it's not over, and there's no fat lady singing, okay? That's why this story is intriguing but frustrating. Okay, these are the food items that you're getting pounded on. Here they are according to the Bureau of Labor Stats. Fruits and vegetables up 6 percent, tomatoes just last month up 15 percent. Beef we know the problem up 15% over the last year, eggs are up again, poultry, fish, not a lot. 1.3%. That's not a lot, but it's up. Dairy, not a lot, 0.8%. Coffee, 2%. And then coffee has spiked 18.5% in the last year. Now, if you have money problems, you can get around all that by buying in bulk and going to Costco and all these other places that we have, and most other countries don't have. I wanted to give you that alert. OK, we are on Iran watch this entire weekend. I don't expect military action that fast, but I think it's coming. Other news, Mayorkas. You haven't heard that name in a while, right? So this is the story. Alejandro Mayorkas was the Homeland Security Chief under Joe Biden. He presided over the open border. Mayorkas did. Come on in. Ten to 15 million foreign nationalists said, OK, thanks, we're coming in. Mayorkas doesn't do press. But somehow he shows up on a Politico thing. Roll it.

"There were areas of disagreement within immigration policy and in other areas, but I voiced my views. I was very pleased that in June of 2024, we took executive action that I thought made reforms that were sensible and that proved successful."

"If those executive actions had been taken one or two years earlier, do you think Donald Trump would be the president today?"

"I am not in a position to speculate, but I will tell you that I would be far more better rested and less punched."

But what the Politico guy doesn't ask, shocking, and it's not really shocking when you know the state of social media, is why did you do it in the first place? What kind of administration crushes the border? Why? For what? Not asked. I mean, that's fifth grade. Okay, Florida plans to close Alligator Alcatraz, that's in the glades. Never a good look. I mean, you don't want to punish. That's what got Pope Leo all bent out of shape, that we were abusing or are abusing migrants, throwing them in the Alligator Alcatraz, and beating them up and killing them. So that's all changing now. And Florida Governor Ron DeSantis says, oh, the feds aren't doing it, we're just doing it. Okay, fine. No more Alcatraz with the alligators. Alligators are probably real sad because he was throwing food out in the canals to all of these critters. Okay, the migrant thing is a big victory for Donald Trump. But in the aftermath, the more humane you can be, the better at this point in history. But I absolutely would continue the roundups, particularly on the criminal aliens, but be careful. You don't want to throw Granny in the alligators.

Smart Life. So I've been getting a lot of mail about people who are worried about their country, about their wallets, about their kids, about everything. And they're worried because of the news cycle. So they're hearing bad news every day, and now they're getting depressed. And they're asking me what... I'm not a psychologist, but I can tell you how I handle it because I've been doing it for 50 years. You've got to separate yourself when you cannot do anything about a situation. It's not just the news or Iran or Trump or anything like that, it's anything in life when you have done all you can do, and it's still not working out, that you've got to accept it or take steps to protect yourself, whatever it may be. Now, what steps can you take about Iran? You can buy food in bulk and cut back on your driving. I've told you, going up to Boston on the train could easily drive there, it would be quicker if I drove there, but I'm not going to because I know what's happening. Anyway, I can do that. But if you're depressed on the news, a lot of people then bail. They don't watch it. No. You want to be informed. It's important for you as an American citizen because we have so much going on here and so much at stake in November, all right? I mean, if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the most popular Democratic leader, you've got a problem here. Okay, and I do my YouTube bonus on it. You've got a big problem. You gotta stay engaged, but don't get depressed. Because there's nothing you can do. Right? Does that make sense? Smart life.

This Day in History, May 13th, 1994, Johnny Carson makes his last television appearance. So, Carson, for those of you who are younger or live abroad, we have a lot of foreign viewers and listeners now, was by far the most popular late-night talk show host in history. Steve Allen's probably the second. I know that these names are fading now, but these guys are titans. So Carson, he hangs it up after 30 years, but he comes back one more time. Roll the tape.

"All right, tonight's top ten list from the home office in Sioux City, Iowa. Now, this is not the list. Johnny, can I have the top 10 list?"

"Thank you, Johnny, nice to see you."

"What's the point? Like I'm going to continue after that."

"Really."

Okay, that was 32 years ago today. Notice the timing on Carson. Timing was always unbelievable. So he hung around a little bit, and he died in 2005 from smoking, respiratory failure arising from emphysema. Never did anything else. That was it. Did a little writing here and there, but never went back on television. Interesting situation with a Carson, but that's an interesting piece of tape, too interesting. That's a fascinating piece of tape there. You compare what he did to what they have now. My god, right? Okay, let's take a quick break. We'll be back with the mail and a final thought you will not believe, and I mean that literally, who we have on our long-form podcast, We'll Do It Live. That starts tomorrow. Hang in, I'll tell you. Back in a moment.

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All right. As I mentioned, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez is the subject of our YouTube bonus on our YouTube channel, which is absolutely free. YouTube.com/BillOReilly. Millions of people going in there. You will, I think, enjoy that commentary. Let's go to the mail. We got Gino. "Are there any practical or economic reasons the Chinese want Taiwan?" It's all a motion. So it completes Mao Zedong's vision of a united China under the communist regime. Practical reason? It's emotion.

Robert Quinton, Wilmington, North Carolina. "Hey Bill, you mentioned in yesterday's broadcast the U.S. is trying to suspend federal gas taxes. And you believe President Trump will have the support of both parties, I respectfully disagree. Democrats and blue states can do everything in their power not to let this happen." Then they'll get hammered. That would be a gift to President Trump if the Democrats objected to a suspension of the federal gas tax. I mean, that would be amazingly self-destructive. You might be right, Robert, but I'd be shocked.

Gloria Likander, Kirtelaine, Idaho, very pretty part of the country. "Bill, during President Trump's first term, he asked many CEOs of the pharmaceutical companies to help the White House bring down the cost of prescription drugs. Therefore, why can't the president apply the same logic to oil and gas for Americans?" He could. He could. But it gets complicated when you're going to go in and look at books, and they're going to go world market and confuse everybody. But he could ask them, you know, give the American people a break. You don't need to double your profits in one quarter, BP. You know, I got a lot of heat, and I don't know why, but people defending the oil company. And they write me letters, oh, you don't understand. You're this, you're that. Once I put that BP state out, stat out, once I put it out, everybody shut up. One quarter, they increase their profits 100%. Hello?

Tom Murasinski, Tom does not tell me where he lives. Tom, got to get on it. "Longtime viewer, Trump voter, I have to disagree with your statement about Congress controlling all of the excessive spending. Congress did not vote for the war, nor were they given a chance to vote." That is true, it's not a bad point. Not a bad point. The War Powers Act, Congress did not approve the expenditure, which is about, I don't know, $50 million now, it'll go much higher. All right, I want you to get our hat. I'm wearing this hat up in Boston because I'm doing a Revolutionary War thing up there, that you'll see. Tt's a special. I'm going to wear the hat because it's supposed to be a deluge tomorrow. So if you see me walking around with the 250 American hat, know you can get it on BillOReilly.com along with all kinds of other stuff. Word of the day: do not be a ninnyhammer. One word, ninnyhammer. We don't want you to be one. Okay, back with their supersonic long form this week. I'll tell you all about it in a moment.

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All right, final thought. Governor Andrew Cuomo joins We'll Do It Live. Tomorrow at let's see, 6 p.m. On YouTube, and 12 noon on BillOReilly.com for Premium and Concierge Members. Another perk, so you get it six hours ahead, and then everybody in the world gets it at 6 p.m. So we're very happy to have the governor. I'm surprised we got him, but Chris Cuomo helped out on it. And we got a lot to talk about, a lot to talk about. You don't want to miss this. And that is it for us today.

Now, I have to go over to Penn Station. Let's see what time it is. I've got time. A couple of blocks from where we are, and then get on the Amtrak, go up the Connecticut coastline through Rhode Island into Back Bay, get off the train, and go to the hotel. It's okay, I've got lots of work to do. If the gas prices were what they were two months ago, I'd hop in my car, I'd be there about an hour shorter than taking Amtrak. But Amtrak does a decent job for me, I don't have any complaints, food is a little mmm. But I smuggle sandwiches on, which you have to do. Anyway, thank you for watching and listening to the No Spin News and Bill O'Reilly News Sunday column. By that time, I hope we have information on Iran, and we are watching throughout the weekend. Remember, @BillOReilly is our handle for all of our tweets. I know they don't call them tweets anymore, I don't know what they call them, but stay with us over the weekend because things could happen. And read the column on Sunday, we'll see you again on Monday.

Iran's Impact on the Economy, Dr. Melanie Hart on the U.S.'s Relationship with China, the Future of Iran & Alejandro Mayorkas Criticizes Biden's Immigration Approach

2026-05-13T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, May 13, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

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O'Reilly & Cuomo Spar Over Iran, Talk China

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O'Reilly's Insight on Donald Trump's Visit to China

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AOC's Billionaires Comments

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Rubio's 2028 Chances

2026-05-13T07:21:00Z

A new Atlas poll spotlights Secretary of State Marco Rubio as being 15 points ahead of Vice President Vance with likely Republican voters for the 2028 election.

Not surprising. Rubio presents himself well and is articulate enough to explain problems like Pope Leo. He comes across as smart and non-threatening.

Mr. Vance has been a good soldier for President Trump, but he has been identified as favoring a few extremists. Also, he reportedly opposed the Iranian action, losing him credibility with the President, whose endorsement GOP candidates will avidly seek in ‘28.

If Marco Rubio decides to run, he will capture many Hispanic voters, which Republicans badly need. So, the Secretary of State is in a good position. If the primary were held tomorrow, he’d win.

On the other side, Democrats are without much leadership. High prices for consumers are keeping the Dems afloat. That situation could turn around fast, but even if it doesn’t, Marco Rubio has to be considered the favorite. The man Trump once called “Little Marco” has entered the big time.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

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2026-05-13T07:14:00Z

As Trump heads to China, Bill lays out the president's agenda.

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President Trump Heads to China, America's Growing Debt, Dr. Fran Walfish on America's Civic Obligation & Marco Rubio's 2028 Front-Runner Status

2026-05-12T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, May 12, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Bill reveals his conversation with Chinese officials.
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A new poll finds that 2/3 Americans say Trump has not clearly explained why the U.S. is at war with Iran.
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President Trump Heads to China, America's Growing Debt, Dr. Fran Walfish on America's Civic Obligation & Marco Rubio's 2028 Front-Runner Status

2026-05-12T22:00:00Z

Hey Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Tuesday, May 12th, 2026. Stand up for your country. Well, the Chinese are always on time. Call came in right when it was supposed to, around noon, and I had a very lively discussion with some members, very influential members of the Chinese communist government in lieu, or in advance, I should say, of President Trump's trip over there this week. So I can't, it's an off the record thing, as it was last time, one year ago when I was physically in Beijing at their invitation, and they wanted to follow up. But I can tell you a few things that I gleaned from the conversation. Number one, the Chinese are like, why did you do this in Iran? Not for an ideological reason, as the Democrats are here. It's like they want order, O-R-D-E-R, because it's good for business to have order. Any disruption in the world is bad for business. The Chinese are all about making money now to feed their 1.5 billion people. That's what's going to be going on in the meeting between Xi, the president of China, and Donald Trump, the president of the United States. It's primarily an economic meeting. But as we reported this week so far, Trump would like China to help out with Iran. You tamp them down and say, look, you've got to stop the nonsense here. You're just disrupting everything. China, it's to their benefit to do it. They're never going to do it publicly. But behind the scenes, if Trump signals that he has some negotiating room on Taiwan, because she is crazed about Taiwan, crazed. They want that Chinese flag flying over Taiwan. But all you'd have to do would be kind of, all right, we'll discuss it. I think that would be enough at this point, because it's only a two-day meeting. They'd have to have another big meeting, probably sometime this summer.

So, what you have over there is the mood is good. I talked to the president as we reported yesterday on Sunday, and he was in a good frame of mind. The Chinese tell me that the Politburo over there is very, I don't know if excited is the right word, but they're optimistic. That this is going to be a good meeting. Now, my role in all this is an expediter. So I did debrief President Trump today about what was said because I have to. You can't just do this on your own. And I told him pretty much what I told you. I told him a few other specifics that I can't tell you because it was off the record. But he's going into a situation where everything is positive except Iran. The Chinese don't care about Iran. They couldn't care less about the Middle East, about Israel, about Gaza. They don't care. But they do not want chaos. And they want their 20 percent oil, which they get from Iran. And they don't want it held up in the Strait of Hormuz. So it's impossible, and I mean that word literally, to predict what the Chinese will do, because they'll never tell you. The only thing I got out of them was, why did you guys do this? And I kind of explained that a campaign promise was made by Donald Trump that the nuclear weapons were gonna be taken away from the Iranians. That was why, it's a campaign promise. This time, why now? Midterms coming up. I can't answer those questions, okay? But the action's hurting America. It is hurting us. And I get letters all over the place, why don't we go in? We're not going in, all right, with infantry, it's not happening. The American people do not want another Iraq, and that's what it would be. You'd have guerrillas, you'd have fighting, you'd have roadside bombs, it's not gonna happen.

Anyway, so you are up to speed, you're gonna get this nowhere else. I'm bragging now, but I think I earned the right to do that. World order is the big thing for the Chinese. Here's the schedule: two days in China. China is 12 hours ahead of us, so when the president comes back on Friday, he doesn't lose any time. He'll zip in there tomorrow. And this is a very tight schedule. There's a banquet, there's a lunch, there is a photo session, and there's the Q&A. President Trump's going to answer questions in the Chinese press. I hope he doesn't call them names, so he'll get confused about that, like he does with the American press. But it's all lined up, and the Chinese, of course, they'll never admit this, but they're flattered, because they know this is a big deal for a president of the United States to go to Beijing. The last time this happened was in 2017 when Trump visited then. All right, 16 CEOs, big shots. Tim Cook of Apple, Elon Musk, you can look it up if you want. They're all going too. And they are tasked with talking to their counterparts in China about deals, economic deals. Okay? So that's why they're going. We don't know who's going in the press pool. I think Sean Hannity is going. Doesn't seem to be anybody else on the sheet right now that would be out of the ordinary. I gave Hannity a few tips about, you know, stuff that happens when he shows up. Nothing ominous, but you know Hannity and I are friends, and you can listen to me. I believe that's coming up this week, but I'll let you know.

Board of Investment, Board of Trade, all of those things, trade, trade, trade. So anyway, all Americans should be hoping that this works out for the USA, right? But you and I both know that's not happening. We are a very, very divided nation. And the news is not good on the economic front for the Republicans. So inflation hit 3.8%. This is from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The 12 months ending last month, April, up 3.80. The fastest annual pace since 2023, that's not a disaster. But it's up, and it's going, going, going, and going, up, up, up, up. This is inflation that will raise everybody's cost of living. All right, you know about the gas prices, now the food prices are igniting again. This is not good for us. And the president knows, and he's gotta try to tamp it down. And I can't predict it, I wish I could, but I can, because the mullahs are crazy, they're crazy people, and the Chinese know that. Because they deal with their own Islamic problem with the Uyghurs in Western China.

Also, the U.S. Treasury is now paying $3 billion a day in interest. They get a lot of mail on this. So the national debt under President Trump, never a spendthrift, okay, is rising and rising rapidly. You know, it's approaching $30 trillion dollars. So every day, the U.S. Treasury has to pay three billion in interest. It goes out every six months. Okay, who gets that money? So 81% of people who buy securities in the United States, that's U. S. Savings bonds, other treasury department, whatever, are regular investors. 81%. And the other are intergovernmental agencies. So, say if Medicaid has a shortfall that month, they'll borrow from the Treasury, but they've got to pay interest when they pay it back, the Medicaid people. That's where the money is going. But three billion a day, that's pretty much out of control. I don't know if it's ever going to be dealt with. Because Congress, remember, it's not Trump so much, it is Congress. Congress is in charge of the spending. Not the president. It's important for you to know that.

All right, new poll by Reuters, we've exposed them as being corrupt. Say 66% of the American people believe Donald Trump has not explained the war goals in Iran. It's almost impossible to believe this poll, okay? It's all about denying the mullahs the nuclear weapon. They don't understand that. I don't know what to say. I don't, I just don't know what to say. If you don't understand that by now, then you're so dumb, I feel sorry for you. That's what it's about. There are other smaller things, like terrorism, which isn't small, but it's the nukes. The question is, has Trump clearly explained his goals in Iran? 31% yes, no, 66%. And that kind of accurately reflects the engagement of the American citizen with information. About 30% of us pay attention. The others are all over the place. And that brings us to a very important question. If you or someone you know, perhaps a family member or a child, whatever, say, I hate this politics. I'm not going to even bother. I'm going to engage. I'm just not going to pay attention, I just don't want anything to do with it. Are you a bad citizen? Is that a terrible thing? So joining us now from Beverly Hills, California, is Dr. Fran Walfish. She is a psychotherapist. And I don't know if you're seeing a lot of customers or clients, as you call them, come in crazed about politics, but that's the question. If you don't wanna pay attention, if you won't pay attention, are you a bad citizen?

"The answer is not necessarily. All of us are born with a different constitution genetically, and we all have different experiences, both with our parents and in the environment. Each person can tolerate a different amount of anxiety level. And if you are weaker, and perhaps more fragile, you're not a bad person. Stronger people are perhaps meant to have stronger shoulders for the weaker ones to be carried upon. So I don't think, you know, we're a generation of shoulds and I don't think it's fair to expect people who are weaker, who may, if they take more on, sink into a sad state, depressive state, anxious state, perhaps obsessive compulsive state where they're more upsetting to us than they are to themselves.".

All right. I get it. They might fall apart and do damage to others and themselves because they can't handle the pressure of all the bad news and complicated things, but that still doesn't justify, and I'm being judgmental here. I know that shocks your, doctor.

"No."

It still, it still doesn't justify walking away from your country. I mean, we all have an obligation here to keep our country safe, honest, and a place where benefit is given to those who live here.

"I agree."

Yeah, to me, if I got some namby-pamby, who goes, oh, I can't pay attention. Number one, I don't respect that, and I should, and that's my fault. I'm gonna have to come see you about it. That's my fault, because right away I'm going, oh. If you really look at it, okay, every citizen has an obligation to make the country better. And if we didn't have the courage we had in World War II and the Civil War, if we didn't have that mass courage, because it was, the greatest generation, my parents, we would have lost it all. Am I wrong?

"I hear you, you're, no, you make a very good point, and I want to ease your self judgment by saying you're not as judgmental as some of your colleagues because you invited me on and you're giving some space for some people to walk away, which is great. Let me say that we all have an obligation for civic responsibility. So we cannot totally walk away, but where are the obligations and duties? Everybody should vote. There is an obligation. So we should all exert our right to vote, obey laws, and treat each other respectfully and kindly. So what does that mean? I think we all have the right to have differences of opinions. The same is true in relationships. You know, in the olden days, when I was coming up and dating, on, in dating space, there was a lot of difference in area of religion. Today, it's politics. It's a deal breaker. Guys and gals will not go out with you if you don't agree."

Particularly in California, those places that are loaded with ideology, not so much in the middle of America. I just wrote a book called Confronting Evil, and the theme of the book is that all these heinous people, and the mullahs in Iran, are included in the book, and the Ayatollah is on the cover. They have to be constrained, and if not enough people will volunteer, sign up to constrain them, then they'll run wild. That's what we're seeing in this world now with NATO, and I don't want to draw you into micro-politics too much, but they're just standing back, let America do it, or whatever it may be. And therefore, evil has a tremendous advantage in the world, no?

"You're right. And there's a tremendous amount of fear among people. You know, I am..."

Is it, is it fear or selfishness?

"Well, there's both. I think there is, you know, we raised a generation of very, very self-serving, sorry to say, narcissistic kids that are now in their 20s and 30s. And they're used to cell phones and computers and immediate gratification. So there is a certain amount of self-serving selfishness, but I think there is fear. And... "

Fear of what? What would be the fear? That they're not going to get a date with Sally, who's a progressive or a right-wing person?

"No, I... there are a lot of Jewish people in America that are afraid to stand up. They're afraid of being hurt, afraid of losing business because people have lost a lot of business. They're afraid of safety for their family. There are many Jews like we're talking about who are not afraid to stand up and protest and...You know, go like with what occurred at UCLA and so many college campuses, but there are many people hiding like what occurred in the Holocaust, and it's very sad, but there are people afraid, and it is, you know, I'm happy to see our president standing up for Jewish people and protecting them, because so many people. Are even afraid to say, I am behind Trump. They're afraid to say that."

That'll get you fewer dates in San Francisco.

Yeah. In Beverly Hills, too."

But my philosophy is easy, if you're that simple-minded or narrow-minded, I don't want to deal with you anyway. If you're going to reject a human being based upon who they vote for, say it. You're doing me a favor by not being around, but that's me again. Last question for you. You must see a lot of people in your practice who come in. And you used the word at the beginning of the interview with this tremendous anxiety, all right? Because nobody can tell the future, and now we're paying more money for everything, and people are having a hard time paying the bills, and they've got kids they gotta put through college, and yeah, it runs a gamut. Is there anything that you, as a counselor to these people, is there any relief that you can bring them at this moment in history when we're a divided country?

"Well, number one, the anxiety that I saw was at its peak during voting, during the election time. It seems to have leveled out now that the reality is here. And I'm, of course, in a more affluent neighborhood area, so, people are not as hit as hard with the financial burdens of what people are dealing with in the Midwest and in underprivileged areas, where they are suffering. So the answer is, of course, cutting back is, there are a lot of people that can't come back anymore, and that's very difficult. But being active, taking action is extremely helpful. And the other thing that's very helpful to people is self care, so active exercise, breathing exercises, healthy eating, good sleep, hygiene, going to sleep at the same time each night, waking up in the morning, talking to your kids, talking with your partner. Talking expels anxiety and causes a reduction in anxiety."

So in other words, you're creating normalcy, and the normalcy brings down the apprehension.

"Exactly. And the definition of anxiety is basically fear. It's higher levels of fear."

Right, and everybody's got it.

"We all do. We all do."

We don't want to lose what we have and on and on. Hey, doctor, very good discussion. We really appreciate you taking the time. If you ever return the favor, you let us know thank you. New poll by Atlas. Atlas Is the best polling outfit out of Brazil. We used them exclusively for, not exclusively, but they were our prime pollster for the presidential election of '24, and they were dead on. And so they came out with a poll about Marco Rubio, JD Vance. Alright, first question Provided that these are the candidates, who would you vote for if you are a Republican? Marco Rubio 45% JD Vance 30% the third is Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, 11%. Now that's a big spread, but you've gotta understand something. Rubio has been in the news, okay, a lot. And he comes across very well, in my opinion. And I didn't always hold that opinion. I was never negative on the Secretary of State. Always felt he was an honest man. I understand the culture in which he came from, down in Florida and his family had escaped Cuba. I understood all that. But boy, in my eyes, as an analyst, he's really risen. Now, JD Vance, what happened to him was he opposed the US action in Iran. Now, for Republicans, not, you know, everybody, that was kind of a shaky move. And so you haven't seen much of Vance. Vance is not going to China. Rubio is one of the main players over there. Now, Trump's not being nasty, I don't think. He's not icing Vance, he's just putting forth what he thinks is gonna work the best. So anyway, that was an interesting poll, and it was in question number two. Vance is going to be in Maine this week. Maine, with that nut running on a progressive level. So was there another question I wanted to get at? No, that's it for Atlas. And keep your eye on that. That's the best polling outfit, in my opinion.

So, here's a crazy story. Rod Stewart, I think he's 112, right? So I like him, okay. He's got some good songs. I don't know him, never met him. He signed a soccer ball for my kid, my son, when he was very little. That was nice of Rod to do that out in Caesar's Palace, where Miller and I sold out five executive shows. So he's on a receiving line at the Royal Albert Hall, Rod Stewart, and he comes across King Charles. Go.

When I first heard that, I said to my producers, check that out, that violates all protocol, calling a head of state a rat bag in front of the king. I mean, there are a lot of rules with the king, but apparently that's what Rod Stewart said. Why did he do it? He's got a concert tour coming up this summer. That's why I went, oh. Anyway, Rod, you don't know anything, okay? If you were sitting across from me, it would be embarrassing. Now I could go maybe Maggie Mae with you a few stances. You could not do anything with me. But that was uncalled for. Last night on the Kimmel, no, on the Colbert show, I can't tell them apart anymore. So Colbert brings in five talk show hosts, all of whom despise President Trump. This is on one show, he brings in 5 of them. Go.

"Did you guys, when you were younger, especially when you're starting out in comedy, did it ever occur to you that you'd be doing a job that the president of the United States would have strong feelings about?"

"No."

"No?"

"No."

"You know what's even weirder? We're doing a job that his wife has strong feelings about."

"Well, most of us have avoided that part."

"Yeah, yeah, that's true."

"Yeah. That's why you're at the end of the couch."

"It's amazing. It's an amazing thing to get in a group text. Just a text from Jimmy saying, oh, boy, and then a picture of Melania mad at him. You know? What a way to start the day."

"And then I sent a text to you guys, and I said, hey, don't be mad at me, but I liked it."

"I think she's got a point."

"We're all kind of happy when you get in trouble over there. And how do you feel when you wake up, and you see the attention?"

"The saddest part of it is I realized in those moments that the only four people who care are sitting right here."

Okay, harmless. Now, that's harmless right there, so that was a minute and seven seconds. Nothing wrong with that, but that's not what these guys do on a routine basis on their program. They hate Trump and anybody who associates with Trump, including Melania. That's the problem, gentlemen. Boy, I'd love to sit in the middle of that thing, huh? They wouldn't do it. We've asked Kimmel a couple of times, and he's turned us down. I'll see Fallon around, because he's got a home near me out in Long Island. I'm going to put the arm on him. All right, Smart Life, half of global consumers now use AI to guide investment decisions. Don't. I can't tell you, we have a Concierge service where you can write to me about anything you want, any problem you have, and we will try to help you. I gotta tell you 40% have to do with people taking their money and putting it on the internet or getting involved with AI or some kind of crazy thing where there's no human presence. They're getting screwed every single day. Don't do that. There are physical banks for a reason. The government has insurance to protect you. You've gotta read how much, and then if you're over, if you have too much, then you go to another bank. But I'm telling you, and when the letter comes in, what can I do? They don't know who they're dealing with on, they, the people who lost their money, they don't know who they're dealing with. They don't know. And this con is every single, I get them every single day. Oh, you have to contact the Apple office and pay this bill and oh, you'll have to do this. Gee, my God. Particularly older people, they're scared. So half now are doing this stuff. Don't do it. Smart life.

Smart Life 2. I got to go to Boston this week, and we're doing a special for NewsNation on heroes and villains in the Revolutionary War to run around the 4th of July, our 250th anniversary. Now, Boston from my house, it took me maybe 3:45 to drive up there, 3 hours 45 minutes. I'm not driving. I'm not giving these little gas companies my money. I'm getting on the dopey train, Amtrak, and I'm taking the train. I don't want to do that because it's a little more inconvenient than just to hop in my car and zip on up there, but I'm at. I'm giving them my money.

This Day in History, May 12, 1932, the body of the Lindbergh baby discovered. Okay, this was one of the worst crimes of the 20th century. 20-month-old. He's on the second floor of his home. Guy gets a ladder, climbs into the kid's bedroom, grabs him, and Charles Lindbergh, as you might know, was a big celebrity aviator, and then asks for $50,000 in ransom, which is a million dollars today. The press goes wild with it, everybody goes wild. So what happens is that they paid the ransom, the government provided the Lindberghs with gold certificates which had been out of circulation for a while, so anybody who had them was suspect. A few months later, actually more than a year later, yes, two years it took, a guy, Bruno Richard Hopman, is in the Bronx, New York. He passes one of these notes, a very alert businessman picks it up, calls the cops, they grab them. He killed that baby, this guy, on the day of the kidnapping. So he's tried, and he is executed in the electric chair. Can you imagine that 20 month old baby? And that happened 94 years ago today. I remember my parents talking about that. Okay, mail segment, lots of questions about the China trip and about Iran. And then we got a final thought that I think you'll enjoy, and we'll be right back.

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Josie Riverhead, New York. "I agree with you, O'Reilly, about the oil companies making profits. It's inexcusable. There's no reason other than greed to capitalize on a vulnerable situation. Shame on them. I do not understand if we have neutralized Iran's military capacity, why is the U.S. not opening the Strait of Hormuz with Navy escorts?" We are. We are, we escort ships through there every day. But the Iranians are over on the banks, on the sides of the strait, lobbing drones and things like that. Insurance companies aren't insuring the other ships. So that's a little complicated. But we're there, and we control it with our military power.

M.G., Concierge Member. "Bill, I concur with your statement that fuel prices in the USA should be addressed by President Trump. A free market guy also recognized that when dealing with oligarchs, it is necessary for the government to regulate them." So you and Teddy Roosevelt are on the same page. Okay, it can get out of control. BP making 100% profit in one quarter is out of control. I mean, I think I'm the only one reporting this. I don't think there's anybody else reporting it.

Alan. "The US has no possibility of defending Taiwan. Just look at the location. It's a few miles away from mainland China, half a world away from America. China will take it one way or another whenever it wants." If China does that, it'll be an economic boycott all over that country. They have to do it legally, they can't do it militarily. Plus, the Taiwanese will fight. They'll fight. And they are well armed, not like the Ukrainians. So it's not just walking on in there.

John. "I agree with you about insurance companies, but oil is a commodity traded on the world market. Nothing you can do about that, really." Of course there is. Why do you think they're releasing oil from our strategic reserves, John? If we couldn't do anything about the world market oil, why are we releasing our own oil? To get more oil into our marketplace so prices go down.

Judith. "Oil insurance companies aren't the only ones gouging we the people. Add grocery corporations to that list." Can't argue. Cannot argue with that. If they're going to capitalize, they'll capitalize. They don't care. I'm generalizing, but you know, I'm right.

Chad Coffee, Normal, Illinois. "I don't believe you're wrong when you say the pope is interested in promoting peace. What I think you are leaving out is that if the Iran conflict was being led by President Harris or Joe Biden or Barack Obama, the pope would have stayed silent." I don't believe that. I don't think he's a political player at all. He doesn't like the migrant thing, but he's not going to get involved with U.S. Politics.

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Okay, so I'll be on News Nation with Cuomo tonight. I'm usually on Wednesday, but we have to do other stuff tomorrow, so switch it over to tonight at 8 p.m., News Nation. Now, I've got some letters about Cuomo's shift changing, his point of view changing politically. And it has. He's become more skeptical of President Trump, and he was never a big fan to begin with. But in the beginning, now it's more intense. So it's going to be an interesting discussion tonight. But here's the advantage that Cuomo has. See, I'm not in business to bolster the Trump administration. That's not what I do. What I'm business to do is debunk untrue things said about President Trump or any other president. So there have been a slew of them. If you read my column, I mean, this Reuters outfit is outrageous. Absolutely outrageous what they're putting out there. And I, you know, I make the case, and nobody's challenged it. So tonight, I know that Mr. Cuomo is going to launch on Trump. I'm going to state facts and that's going to be a very interesting debate. So it's, I'm not going to say that Cuomo's a partisan, he's not MS, and those people in CNN, he's not there, but he doesn't like the way Trump is running the show. But I'm going to provide information that's unassailable. That is happening tonight, News Nation, 8 p.m. We hope you will check it out. And thank you very much for watching and listening to the No Spin News this evening. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you again tomorrow.

O'Reilly & Mark Simone Look to the East

2026-05-12T20:31:00Z

Bill and Mark Simone analyze President Trump’s high stakes visit to China and Bill’s unofficial role as a diplomat. Bill predicts what will be at the very top of the agenda when Donald Trump sits down with Xi Jinping.

Is Trump's Polling Being Manipulated?

2026-05-12T18:25:00Z

John McLaughlin, pollster and CEO & partner at McLaughlin & Associates, argues Washington Post polls are misrepresenting Trump’s numbers.

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Is Trump's Presidency in Crisis? O'Reilly & Vittert Analyze

2026-05-12T17:07:00Z

Bill joins Leland Vittert on NewsNation to discuss President Trump's trip to China, and Iran.

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China's Role in Dealing With Iran

2026-05-12T16:23:00Z

Bill breaks down his latest phone call with President Trump and explains that the U.S. needs China’s help with Iran.

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O'Reilly on Trump in China and a Criminal-Friendly Judge with 'Cats & Cosby'

2026-05-12T16:20:00Z

Bill talks with WABC’s Rita Cosby and John Catsimatidis about his Sunday conversation with Donald Trump in advance of the president’s crucial trip to China. Bill also identifies and denounces a judge whose leniency is literally costing lives.

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High Stakes in Play

2026-05-12T07:50:00Z

It’s complicated. That’s the cliche. But President Trump’s visit to China this week certainly is.

First, the Chinese could help end the Iran conflict because it buys so much oil from the Mullahs. If the communists purchase elsewhere, like the USA, Iran’s economy gets crushed.

But in order for Beijing to cooperate, it will want the Trump administration to stop protecting Taiwan. If the USA did that, the world would perceive America as weak.

Then there’s AI. China has been stealing US technology and doesn’t really care whether we like it or not. So how do we stop that? Extremely difficult.

You may remember I traveled to Beijing a year ago for a sit-down with high-ranking communists. The world is a much more chaotic place now than it was then.

Very high stakes in play. All loyal Americans should be hoping the talks this week go our way.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

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2026-05-12T02:53:00Z

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China's Role in Dealing With Iran, the Real Reason Oil Prices Are Rising & Is Trump's Polling Being Manipulated? John McLaughlin Weighs In

2026-05-11T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News from Monday, May 11th, 2026. Stand up for your country. I spoke with President Trump yesterday, Sunday, and that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. So as you remember, I was in Beijing about a year ago, and I went there at the request of the Chinese government to talk about America-Chinese relationships, and I debriefed President Trump both coming and going. So now we're in another cycle, which is more complicated than it was one year ago. That's for sure. It is...I don't know if the word is complicated is... Underestimating is extremely difficult. So let me run it down. China needs America, no doubt about it, because China's economy is built on exports. People buy Chinese stuff in America and all over. And if the USA isn't buying Chinese stuff to the extent that it used to, then the Chinese economy is going to wobble. Got 1.5 billion people over there to feed. Okay, so they want a trade deal. What we want is help with Iran now. A year ago, it was with Putin. Okay, and now that situation in Ukraine has pretty much ground to a halt. We need help with Iran because they're totally irrational. Iran sells China an enormous amount of oil. If China did not buy that oil, Iran's economy, which is on the verge of collapse anyway, would go under.

So I expect, although the president did not tell me directly, that the offer will look, we'll take care of your oil needs, the USA. But you've got to get away from Iran, you can't be helping them out, and you've got to try to convince them to give up their nukes. Okay, it's not going to be easy because China is going to come back with, and I know this to be true, well, we'll do it, but you've gotta dump Taiwan. You can't be defending Taiwan anymore. Now, Taiwan is a very difficult situation, It's been going on since 1949, you can look it up if you'd like to, but the United States and pretty much every other free country does not want the Chinese taking over Taiwan. And if we allowed that, if we withdrew our support from Taiwan, we would look weak to the world, and China would proclaim a significant victory. They're not our friends, the Chinese, okay? So you see what we're doing here. All right, so President Trump's gonna be there on Thursday. And he knows, obviously knows, all of this stuff. And I don't know what they're going to do, what they're gonna offer, I'm not privy to that. As far as the gasoline is concerned. I'm going to tell you a shocking story in a few moments that, again, the president's going to have to think about.

Now, the final thing on the board, it's only two days. It's very hard to get anything done in two days, so this is like sets another meeting up. So not Thursday and Friday, they're not gonna be able to nail down a lot. It's AI. So China's stealing AI technology from the United States and everybody else. And China doesn't care whether you like it or not. What are we gonna do to them? They're just stealing it. And they did that with a whole bunch of other technology earlier on. If President Trump is under pressure to do something about it, I don't know what he can do about it. Other than arrest some Chinese people, swear out warrants for them, but it's a fairly big thing. And you have to keep in mind that the Chinese do not respect intellectual property at all. They're going to steal it if they can steal it. You also have to understand that we and China are not friends, they are our enemies, they are our rivals, but President Trump thinks he can make a deal with these people.

Okay. Now, the reason that I was on the phone with the President, and again, he called me, I don't call him, is because the Chinese want to talk to me before the President arrives in Beijing. It puts me in a very difficult position, and it's a unique position. I don't know of any other journalist ever who's had this kind of access. I have no access to the Iranians. But with China, plenty. So they, and they're so polite, I mean, it's amazing. So they ask, can we have a call with you? Well, I said, if the president okays it, then I'll do it because I love my country, and no harm. They're going to ask me questions. I'll answer them honestly, just like I'm talking to you right now, which the Chinese are watching. They watch us on YouTube. Okay. So, I got a message to President Trump yesterday, and I said look, the boys are back in town, they want to talk to me, what do you think? Because I don't want to interfere in what you're doing, and I don't know what you're doing. And he goes, No, you go ahead. So I got the imprimatur. And then afterward, if there's on the call, if there's anything that he should know, I'll get it to him. Because again, this is my job not only to report to you as a journalist, but to help my country if I can. This is a unique position that I am in, which is why I think you're watching and listening to me. Nobody has this kind of access. Nobody in the journalistic world. So, and if the Chinese go, this is off the record, I will honor that. I won't report it. But I have, but I'm going to go with the exception of President Trump, which is what I did last time. I said, I can't just have our conversation with you guys and not report back. I mean, come on, they understand. And that's the memo.

Now, the two big issues with Iran, and they're just playing games because they feel that this is hurting President Trump a lot. They don't want nuclear inspectors in there. That's number one. It's very simple. This is so simple. They don't want nuclear inspector. They say, oh, we'll move some of the uranium to other countries. That's a bunch of bull. They're going to keep that stuff buried as deep in the earth as they can keep it buried. Yeah, we're gonna...They’ll say, we'll do it, they don't do anything. We need those weapons inspectors in there and two, they want control of Hormuz, the Straits that come out of the Persian Gulf. It'd be insane to give them that. Nobody controls international waters. So they keep going back to that, and the mullahs know we're not gonna agree to it. So now, they'll probably get the hell kicked out of them next week. I don't think the president will do anything before he meets with Xi, the Chinese leader, but something's got to happen. Okay, now I have gotten, and I told you this, and I told you I'd look into it. I have looked into it. People go we have all this oil with self-sufficient oil. Why are our prices going up? When we have enough oil It's not supply and demand because we have enough supply to meet the demand in the United States. Well, the reason they're going up is that we sell an enormous amount of oil overseas American oil and here's a stat. Okay, the Energy Information Administration and we had to root this out here, eight million barrels a day of American petroleum products we send abroad. And that's what's suppressing, okay, the supply.

So the oil companies go, oh, well, you know, we don't have any, you get plenty. You're just making, you're selling it overseas so you can make more money and screwing the American people. We cited this last week, BP 100% profit in one quarter. Their profits increased 100 in one quarter. Well, who do you think's buying that stuff? Okay, so Today President Trump announced that he's going to stop the oil tax, the federal tax on oil. The Energy Information Administration says the sales overseas are at an all-time high. Sales of American petroleum product, all-time highs overseas. So they're going to suspend the gas tax, and that'll mean about three bucks, close to three bucks on a 15 gallon fill up that you'll get back. Now, whether the, there's a shift of hand or we don't regulate, we, the country don't regulate. This is a free marketplace. But I hope that the president is going to investigate these oil companies, because this is a national security issue. And under national security, you can go right in, just like they're investigating ABC and Jimmy Kimmel and The View. You can do the same thing with the oil companies. Just go in and go, what are you doing? National security, we've got all this problem, and you're selling all these products overseas to make more money?

Now, the one time in history this happened was Theodore Roosevelt. He clocked them, Rockefeller, oil, okay, Morgan, JP, and he won in the Supreme Court. They challenged him. And he broke those monopolies. Now, I don't know whether President Trump's going to do that or not. It requires an act of Congress that we suspend federal taxes on gasoline, Congress has to okay it but they will Okay, both parties will, because they don't want to go into the midterms and with no relief. And the money that it gets, the federal government gets, goes to repair roadways, transit products, on and on and on. Okay, so that's in play, and I'm going to watch it really closely to see how much relief that actually gives the American consumer. These oil companies, I'm telling you, man, they got everything that, oh, the next thing you're going to hear is, oh, our refinery capacity is, you know, we're having a lot of trouble on, you see. Okay, it's the new poll out. This is a Trump poll run by John McLaughlin, a buddy of ours. McLaughlin and Associates, 1,000 general election voters, people who have voted. Okay, first question, which of the following statements regarding President Trump and his policies comes closest? I approve of President Trump in his policies, 34. I disapprove of President Trump personally, but I like a lot of his policies, 15, so that brings you up to 49 on the policy. I disapprove of President Donald Trump and his policies, both his policies 46%. Okay, not a strong number, but not a catastrophe. Second question, agree or disagree the US military action against Iran, leadership of the Iranian regime, are necessary and warranted to protect American lives? Agree, 59, disagree, 32. You don't hear that in the mainstream media. Final question, if Iran were to develop and build a nuke, would they use it? Yes, 61, no, 20. You know, that's speculative. So joining us now from Blauvelt, New York, is John McLaughlin. So your poll is what they call an outlier. Washington Post poll just out. Totally different scenario than yours, but you say the Washington Post is not being straight up with the American people. How?

"Well, in that Washington Post poll, they did a poll of over 2,000 adults. They were not registered voters, not likely voters. There are people that responded to an Ipsos panel that get a buck or two to fill out the questionnaire, and they only have 29% Trump voters. 29. We got 50% of the popular vote."

You know, this is it. This is a key point, so 50% of Americans the last time around, '24, 50% voted for Donald Trump, but the Washington Post poll only has 29% Trump voters. That's what you're saying, right?

"Because they poll, they poll adults."

Now they have to know that.

"Yes."

But they ask the question...right.

"They do that on purpose."

Of course, they're putting out false data. They're stacking it out.

"Well, they want to turn public opinion against the president before the midterms.".

Sure.

"So, like our models are based on likely voters. People that say they're gonna vote in November, which is even different than 2024. But we have a point or two more of Trump voters in our surveys than Harris voters. And it matches up, ironically, we set it to the CNN exit polls. So it looks like a national sample, but when pollsters poll adults, and they only come out with 29 percent Trump voters, they have an agenda. And their agenda is to say that Trump's had a historic job approval lows and the Republicans are losing Congress by double digits."

All right, but they don't tell, when they release their poll, The Washington Post does not tell the public they are doing that, correct?

"Well, they put up the cross tabs that I could read it, but they don't tell the public when they run their headlines."

Well, no, it's way down on page 29 or something, right?

"It's in the internet, you gotta go find it."

You got, so you, you got to look at it. It's not what the Post has, right? All right. So the only conclusion, or a conclusion you could prove in a court of law, is that the Washington Post sets out to do polling that's gonna make Trump and the Republicans look bad. Correct?

"Our poll, the Republicans are losing the ballot for Congress by four points. But it's a closer race. And the president, we asked his job approval the way we did in the campaign. And you, by the way, you and I saw the president on 9-11 at Yankee Stadium, and the president said to me, my highest numbers ever, I said, no, your highest job approval was 57%, and your highest favorable was 51% on election day, because we ran a campaign. But when we saw him at Yankee Stadium that day, I said, you still have good numbers, those numbers were better. But this is how, the way we asked his job approval was to raise his favorables, to raise this popular vote. Now, they're in the government, they don't have the same campaign. It's not, and he's not on the ballot in November. So the Republicans have a lot of work to do, and President Trump, as you said, he's going to China, he's got Iran to deal with. He's doing the things that a president does, and the campaign needs to step it up behind it."

Now, when does your next poll come out?

"Oh, it'll be before Memorial Day. We'll do it, we do a monthly poll and we publish it. There's lots of polls we do every day, but we don't publish them all the time. We publish, we'll publish the monthly poll before Memorial Day."

In the next three weeks, there's gonna be a big change in what happens to this country because the Iranian thing can't, I mean, maybe it could, but I can't imagine. So something's gonna happen there. Something will happen with Xi and China. Now we have the federal relief on a gas tax. So just give us a heads up because we wanna have you back on the next polling now. Finally, you say that the Republicans right now, just across the board, in Congress, are running about four points behind the Democrats? Is that where they are?

"Correct. So they're even trailing President Trump's job approval, which, you know, I mean, they're at 43 percent, he's at 49. So the Republicans need to have a contrast election with the Democrats. Chuck Schumer's not popular, Hakeem Jeffries is not popular because their positions are unpopular. They're against voter ID, they for higher taxes, not lower taxes. And certainly, by the way, when you talk about backing up the brave men and women who are fighting the war with Iran to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons, the Democrats want to invoke the War Powers Act and surrender, like they did in Afghanistan. I mean, at least President Trump's a commander-in-chief who plays to win, so the Democrats need to be held account. They need to be on the defense about their positions. Their positions are pretty radical and not and and not supported by the majority of Americans."

No, but if the economy gets worse and the expenses get higher for gas and food and things like that, and I noticed today that the United States is allowing more beef in to be imported in here, so obviously the Republicans and the Trump administration understands the danger that Americans will vote their wallet. Last word.

"Well, you're right. We need a growth package. Gotta win the war in Iran. We've got to have a growth package to keep the economy growing. Because President Trump, he's tried to grow the economy, but you have Chuck Schumer shutting the government down when he can. You have Jerome Powell keeping interest rates high. So they're putting sand in the engine because it's all about the midterms. And the Republicans need to wake up and play to win in the mid terms."

All right, John, thanks very much. As always, we'll talk to you in a few weeks when your new poll comes out. This is an outrageous story, and I wrote about it on my column, my Sunday column, on BillOReilly.com. It's free for everybody, you just go in. And the column is titled, So Help Me God, and it's about people lying, which is an epidemic in America. Everywhere. I mean, perjury is a joke. You go into court you destroy, you know, I swear to tell the whole truth, but no. And then you don't and it's proven you don't tell the whole truth, and you have lied. Nothing happens to you. Now the press leads the league in this. So Reuters news service put out an article last week. All right, and the article says Iran, this is the headline, no further from nuclear weapons than before the war. Okay, so all the bombing that Israel and the USA did, all the infrastructure decline, all of that, okay, knocking out their first administration, the Iranians. They haven't touched. The Iranian nuke situation is. This is Reuters, okay? And of course, the far left media, particularly MS, picks it up.

"Reuters reported that U.S. Intelligence assessments believe that this war has not impacted the timeline for how long it would take Iran to build a nuclear weapon at all. And Trump, Hegseth, and Rubio have all, of course, all justified this war by saying pretty much the exact opposite of that, by saying that this was necessary and successful because it has set back Iran's nuclear program."

Now the shocking part about this is not many media picked up this Reuters poll. I thought there was going to be tons of it. News Nation picked it up, Fox News picked it up, Japan Times, but not the networks, and not that many cables. They ignored it. Why do they ignore it? Because it's false. Two days later, the Wall Street Journal, citing a report from the Institute for Science and International Security, runs this headline. Quote, "US-Israeli strikes set back Iran's ability to build nuclear weapon." Exactly the opposite of what Reuters wrote. Exactly the opposite. It's just like John McLaughlin was saying, that the Reuters article was designed to undermine the campaign in Iran. But the Wall Street Journal, their data is actually taken from. The Reuters data is anonymous sources all throughout. One guy they quote at the end, who has no access to anybody, he's not in the government, he's nothing. All throughout, it's insane. So if you read my column, you'll see I cite all the crazy anonymous sources. Two days later, it's knocked out of the park. It's just really, and you know, I am down on a lot of my country people, used to be able to call them countrymen, you can't do that anymore, because they're lazy, and they're apathetic, and they don't know what's happening, they don't care to know, and that drives me nuts. But there is a large segment of Americans who want to know, and they can't get the information any longer. Because it's so dishonest in the media and the polling.

Netanyahu goes on 60 Minutes last night, and I knew this to be true. I mean, I don't get the whole anti-Semitic thing. Where I was raised in Levittown, a lot of Jews, Irish, Italian, Poles, we all got along. Okay? There was none of this BS, just none of it. And now, it's just, Israel is horrible. Jews are terrible people, all of that. It's almost like the Fourth Reich, all over the world, not just in America, all over the World. Here's Netanyahu's explanation. Go.

"You can say anything, because it's this, this is yours, right? You're not immune either, because you can penetrate this machine, you can penetrate this little instrument, and you can say about Major Garrett anything you want, and I can paint you as a monster, and if I say it often enough, enough people will believe it. I am not bemoaning this, I'm stating this as a fact."

I'm bemoaning it, okay, because it's true. People read his garbage over and over, and over again, and that's how it grows. Ten years ago, you didn't hear any of this anti-Semitic stuff. And now it's a movement within the Democratic Party, the progressive left. And people buy it because of these stupid machines.

CBS. A mess over there. They're gonna fire a Sharon Alfonsi. I don't know her. I mean, I'm assuming that Sharon is a left-wing soldier, but I don't know. I've seen in some of her reports. She's not Mike Wallace. Let's put it that way, but she's lawyered up, and they're kind of cleaning house over there at CBS. Putin he says the war in Ukraine may be coming to an end, number one. Okay, he looks like hell. Did you see him on the military parade honoring the end of World War II? The guy's bloated. He looks like he's on steroids. And maybe the Ukrainian war is coming. Well, I don't know, Vlad, you'd better get it over with because you've lost about 350,000 soldiers dead, Russian soldiers, in four years. Now, that number comes from the Ukrainians, so we cannot verify it. But they've lost a lot of people over there. And it's not going well, okay, for the Russians.

Okay, Smart Life. So many Americans are what I call conspiracy nuts. I hope you're not one of them. Usually, people who watch me aren't. They go to the conspiracy websites where everything is, you know, we didn't land on the moon, it was a movie studio, 18 guys killed JFK, yeah, you know the drill. Okay. So now a survey by YouGov, not reliable, all right, says that 25% of the American public believe the shooting at the White House Correspondents' dinner was staged. 25 percent. Now, I was there, I saw everything as far as logistics are concerned, it was not staged. Now, that's a quarter of the population, believe it was, staged, based on what? Nothing. Some kook on the internet saying something, right? Now, this is a smart life segment. When I run into those kinds of people, I never debate them. I never try to persuade them, ever. I wrote a book, Killing Kennedy. You want to know what happened to JFK, you read the book. You don't want to, then live in a delusional world. That's it. Not my job to save people who are conspiracy thinkers.

This Day in History, May 11th, 2009, President Obama meets at the White House with CEOs of the healthcare industry who promised to cut $2 trillion in costs over 10 years. That would be 2019. Okay, and everybody was happy, and they're all toasting and got pictures taken, all of that. Okay. So did the healthcare industry cut $2 trillion off of healthcare for Americans? No. They didn't even come close. They didn't even try. And their excuse was, the industry's voluntary pledge was non-binding. So the cuts never happened. In fact, they're way more now than they were 17 years ago. There you go. Obama tried, it was just so screwed up. I remember grilling him about Obamacare, the computers didn't work, nothing worked. I said, come on, what is this? I was in an interview. All right, let's take a quick break, and we've got a lively mail segment and a final thought. Back in a moment.

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Okay. Final thought. I think this guest is gonna surprise you on Thursday for the Do It Live, the long-form that we do now every week. Do it live. We got Chazz Palminteri up there now. People are liking it. But the guest we have on Thursday, which I'll tell you about Wednesday, is political. Gonna surprise you. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Haven't done the interview yet. We're confident it will happen. Leland Vittert tonight, News Nation 9, Eastern time. I will be in the chair. I don't really know what Leland has on his mind. News Nation did buy that Reuters phony article. I might have to scold them for that. But I don't know what Leland, Leland's good, I like him because I really never know where he's going. And I like Cuomo because it's, you know, so opposite. His view of the world and my view of the world is so opposite, but he gives you a good idea of what the left, he's not a progressive kook, Chris Cuomo, but it is a liberal. Die hard liberal, and a lot of viewers don't, they don't know many liberals, and they don't t know what the thinking level is, so when I go on with him, that's what comes out when I go on with Vittert on Monday, I don't what's gonna happen. I assume they're gonna talk about the China trip, which is historical. You know, I'm talking to a lot of people about this, as you know, and I can't really...very, very hard.

Usually, I'm a guy who comes up and says, okay, A leads to B leads to C leads to D. But I know President Trump knows that as soon as the Iranian thing comes in, as we reported earlier, then Taiwan is gonna come in. You're the sitting president, and ever since World War II, America has protected the people who live on that island. I've been there. One of the worst places on earth. Why is it so bad, Taiwan? It's just packed with people, and they're all spitting. And I'm sorry if this is a comment that's derogatory. I don't mean it to be. It's like a baseball dugout in America. And it's like jam packed with people. And it was like, I stayed at a really nice hotel. But you know, me, I'm out and about and looking around. And then I went to the snake market in Taipei, where they kill a snake and drain the blood. And then guys pay a lot of money to drink the blood because it's viagra or something. Some crazy thing. I'm sitting there going... Oh, which way is Bermuda? See, that's all I wanted to hear. And I'm in Taipei. So I'm not a good spokesperson for Taiwan tourism, but those people do not deserve to be subjugated. And if an American president allows that subjugation, that's not gonna go over well. Most Americans don't care. But the world that would be perceived as a huge victory for the communists. So I got to deal with all that and this and that. But we'll have a good report tomorrow because I will have talked to the Chinese by then, by airtime tomorrow, we'll have talked to them, unless they cancel, they might. Thank you for watching and listening to The No Spin News. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you again tomorrow.

China's Role in Dealing With Iran, the Real Reason Oil Prices Are Rising & Is Trump's Polling Being Manipulated? John McLaughlin Weighs In

2026-05-11T22:00:00Z

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New reports reveal Americans are paying more here because oil companies are selling their product abroad.
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Iran's Impact on Oil

2026-05-11T07:40:00Z

Big week for the USA as President Trump travels to China and the scoundrels in Iran decide on whether to accept a treaty or continue the madness.

China could very well stop the nuke situation because the Mullahs export so much oil to the communists that it can’t afford to alienate Beijing.

And while we’re on the oil trade topic, we have found out that American companies are selling so much product abroad, they will not moderate pricing here. Supply and demand with no restraint. The American consumer is competing with overseas buyers for gas. That’s why prices are so high for us.

BP doubled its profit in just one quarter, so the Iranian conflict is the Mardi Gras for them. It seems to me that the Trump administration should have a few words with these companies. This is wrong.

Also, harming we the people are Insurance companies that are spending hundreds of millions of dollars on TV advertising. Guess who pays those bills? Regular folks, that’s who. Premiums are up significantly across the board. Another gouge.

I am a committed capitalist, but as Theodore Roosevelt found out, sometimes fairness has to be imposed!

This is one of those times.

See you later for the No Spin News.

So Help Me God

2026-05-10T07:00:00Z

In court, we are compelled to swear that the truth be told. If you lie, you commit a crime: perjury.

But few are concerned about perjury. Ask any attorney. You can fabricate all you want; nobody much cares.

The American people, generally speaking, also don’t care about truthful press reporting. CBS News is in open rebellion. So what? The View is under government scrutiny. Big deal. Fox News is facing another massive voting machine lawsuit. Yawn.

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We are a country that is being misled, conned, manipulated. What else is new?

Last week, the Reuters News Agency, generally hostile to the Trump Administration, released an article that said the USA launched the Iranian conflict when it didn’t have to. The piece said U.S. intelligence knew Iran wasn’t all that close to weaponizing uranium, so the attacks were unwarranted.

The Reuters headline reads: “Iran No Further from Nuclear Weapon than Before War.”

The reporting in the story is absurd. All anonymous sources. Here’s some wording:

- “According to three sources familiar with the matter.”

- “All of whom requested anonymity to discuss US intelligence.”

- “The unchanged estimates (on the nuke construction timeline) may also stem from a lack of major nuclear targets that can be readily and safely destroyed following last June’s military action, ACCORDING TO SOME ANALYSTS.

Some analysts? Who might those be? That lazy description is followed by “as far as we know,” “probably located,” and “it is possible.”

This Reuters reporting gives the word “shoddy” new meaning.

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Nevertheless, it was picked up and peddled by the far left MS operation as well as NewsNation, and the Japan Times, among others. Surprisingly, the American corporate media stayed away from the journalistic malpractice even though it was apparently designed to hurt Trump.

And here’s the kicker: two days after the Reuters atrocity, The Wall Street Journal
reported the exact opposite Iran-nuke scenario.

The headline: “U.S., Israeli Strikes Set Back Iran’s Ability to Build Nuclear Weapon.”

The Journal cites a new report by the Institute for Science and International Security, quoting directly from it. No anonymous BS. The WSJ cites the scientific organization as saying six Iranian nuclear sites have been effectively bombed since the conflict began on February 28.

I guess Reuters missed ISIS’s report, the wire service being too busy tracking down those anonymous sources.

It doesn’t take Edward R. Murrow to figure out what Reuters is up to. And media falsehoods are aggressively protected by the First Amendment.

However, the giant takeaway is that “we the people” are now being routinely deceived on vital matters by an ideological and corrupt press. And many of us don’t even care.

No anonymity on that; you can quote me.

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Political Dishonesty and Culture in America

2026-05-08T22:00:00Z

Highlights from O'Reilly's No Spin News

2026-05-08T22:00:00Z

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The Democrats' Self-Sabotage

2026-05-08T17:15:00Z

The Afternoon Dispatch is written by BillOReilly.com staff.

Remember Christine O’Donnell? Hint: ‘I’m not a witch!’ Or Todd Akin? Another hint: ‘Legitimate rape.’ How about Roy Moore, accused of having ‘sexual contact’ with a 14-year-old. All three won their respective Republican nominations and ran for the United States Senate.

The predictable results: O’Donnell was trounced by Chris Coons by 17 points in Delaware. Akin lost to Claire McCaskill by 15 points in Missouri. Moore accomplished the near-impossible by falling to Democrat Doug Jones in crimson-red Alabama.

The Republicans nominated some very questionable candidates in the not-too-distant past, and it cost the party dearly. Even more recently, former football great Herschel Walker was thrown for a loss by Rafael Warnock in Georgia, and TV doc Mehmet Oz lost in Pennsylvania to John Fetterman, who at the time was recovering from a stroke. The point is that at times the GOP has sabotaged its chances of winning a larger majority in the Senate.

Well, now it may be the Democrats’ turn to self-immolate. Exhibit A, of course, is Graham Platner, running for the Senate in Maine against Republican incumbent Susan Collins. You know all about the now-disguised Nazi tattoo on his chest and his many excuses for that bizarre choice of ink. Less well known is what he said about rape victims, claiming they should ‘just take some responsibility.’

The always-charming Platner questioned why Black people don’t tip more in restaurants and wrote this pithy message: ‘F*** these cops.’ That’s in addition to his praise for the military genius of Hamas. But most Democrats are all in for Platner because he has a (D) behind his name. The Man With the Nazi Tattoo vanquished Maine’s Governor Janet Mills in the primary and will likely be the party’s standard-bearer in November. He has been raising money hand over fist and is always a most welcome and fawned-over guest on MS NOW.

To the west in Michigan, Democrats are likely to run another extremist. Abdul El-Sayed, heartily endorsed by Bernie Sanders and far-left lunatic Hasan Piker, has a slight lead in the Democratic primary. El-Sayed, striving to become the first Muslim elected to the Senate, is virulently anti-Israel and, of course, wants to abolish ICE. Those positions put him in the Democratic mainstream, but he is no moderate.

El-Sayed refused to celebrate the death of Iran’s Supreme Leader Khamenei because many Muslims in the city of Dearborn were ‘sad.’ He also had no problem equating Iran’s fanatical mullahs with the MAGA movement. But many Democrats cherish El-Sayed for his fighting spirit, exemplified in a recent fiery speech. ‘When they go low,’ he said of Republicans, ‘we don’t go high. We take them to the mud and choke them out.’ That violent imagery is music to the ears of many Trump-haters.

Right now, the Republican Party is favored to maintain its majority in the Senate, but that obviously depends on the war in Iran and gas prices over the summer. The Democrats’ chances to eke out a majority may hinge on the unhinged Graham Platner winning in Maine.

But let us pose an interesting wild card possibility. This is what Senator John Fetterman said of his prospective colleague: ‘If Maine wants an a**hole with a Nazi tattoo on his chest, they get him.’ He added that he is ‘incredibly disappointed’ with his party. John Fetterman, despite being powerfully pro-Israel and in favor of the Iran war, has frequently maintained that he will remain a Democrat. But a victory by Graham Platner could change his mind and give the Republicans an additional seat, one occupied by a very large man in a hoodie.

The views expressed in the Afternoon Dispatch are those of BillOReilly.com staff.

No Agreement

2026-05-08T07:43:00Z

It doesn’t look like Secretary of State Rubio’s visit with the Pope accomplished much. Both men are sincere but travel different pathways; Rubio’s job is to protect Americans from evil doers, sometimes using force.

Pope Leo’s mandate is to persuade bad people to change their ways without using the hammer. The Pope also strongly believes in redemption.

Therefore, no agreement on fighting evil is likely to happen. The Trump administration has been successful in closing the southern border and confronting narcotics merchants using force. It hopes to use similar tactics to blunt Iran’s nuke quest.

It is difficult for Americans to turn the collective other cheek when danger is apparent. People of goodwill understand the Pope isn’t doing anything bad; he is simply preaching a non-violent theology.

Unfortunately, that rarely, if ever, works on the malevolent, and as with Hitler and his crew, brave nations must stop them, or mass violence will continue.

So, there’s the moral dilemma. It’s a big one.

O'Reilly & Katie Pavlich on Epstein's Note & Trump's Final Iran Proposal

2026-05-07T18:01:00Z

Bill joins NewsNation to discuss President Trump, Iran, and a recently uncovered suicide note from Jeffrey Epstein.

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O'Reilly & Sid Rosenberg on Trump's Biggest Challenge

2026-05-07T17:59:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Sid Rosenberg and lays out exactly what Donald Trump must do if he is to claim victory in Iran. He also describes New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani as a communist who will never change his stripes.

Killing Time with Chazz Palminteri

2026-05-07T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY When you look back at what you've accomplished, was there anything that you did in your career that you would not do again?

PALMINTERI I gotta tell you, Bill, you ask great questions.

O'REILLY Thank you.

PALMINTERI You do. And I've been interviewed thousands of times. Is there anything that I did that I would not do again? I remember when I, it was a stupid thing. When I wrote Bronx Tale in the very beginning, the first time I wrote it, and I started doing it, I used everybody's real name that was real. And then I got a phone call, I remember, that they heard that I was using these names. It's not a big thing, but they were like pretty upset by it. And they said, you have to change the names.

O'REILLY And you did?

PALMINTERI Immediately.

O'REILLY You did?

PALMINTERI I did. No, immediately.

O'REILLY Oh, okay.

PALMINTERI I changed him immediately. Immediately. And then they said, cool.

O'REILLY See, my view of you, and I don't know you that well, but we've been at Yankee games together and I couldn't have gotten closer to the stage for A Bronx Tale if I tried. I was just right there, because I wanted to see how Palminteri carried this one man show off. Because one man show...

PALMINTERI Toughest thing in the world.

O'REILLY Oh!

PALMINTERI Toughest.

O'REILLY Because you have to overlook every distraction, any cell phone that rings or anything.

PALMINTERI There's no there's no break you have to...if you're...

O'REILLY Locked in.

PALMINTERI You have to be locked in. If you're off for 10 seconds, the audience goes off.

O'REILLY And so I'm watching every everything, and that's what I always do for people who are successful. I know that you're a fair man, that your whole philosophy is based on fairness. You don't have any malice. You don't have that reputation in business. I wanted to get guys to say bad things about you. Shirripa almost punched me. He wouldn't say anything bad about you, nobody says anything bad about you because you're fair.

PALMINTERI I'm fair.

O'REILLY And that came from your parents and the neighborhood. I mean, that's what the code was. We get back, we started the interview with the code. The code was, you don't kick a guy literally when he's down.

PALMINTERI No.

O'REILLY You don't keep somebody in the head when somebody's laying on the ground.

PALMINTERI Right.

O'REILLY That code is gone now.

PALMINTERI Fairness means a lot to me. Be fair. You know, I don't want things for free because I'm a celebrity. Just be fair. Just don't rip me off. That's all I'm asking.

O'REILLY Or anybody else.

PALMINTERI Or anybody else. I don't like that. Somebody who lies and cheats. And again, I had a guy that worked for me for years once and I treated him great. I treated fantastic. His family, I bought his family things. I could bend over backwards, my wife and I. And then I found out he forged a check of mine. And I was like, well, why would you do that?

O'REILLY Did you ask him?

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY What did he say?

PALMINTERI He said he didn't do it, but I know he did.

O'REILLY So to the end, he...

PALMINTERI He just wouldn't cop to it. He wouldn't cop to it and I fired him.

O'REILLY Okay.

PALMINTERI But I couldn't understand why someone would do that, you know?

O'REILLY Right.

PALMINTERI It kind of hurt me. It took me like a little bit to get over that.

O'REILLY You never get over it, really.

PALMINTERI No, because it made me...

O'REILLY It's a matter of trust. It violated your trust.

PALMINTERI Violated my trust. All he had to do was ask me for the money.

O'REILLY Yeah, you would have given it to him.

PALMINTERI I would have give it to them. That's what I didn't understand. I still don't. I think about it and I go, why would he risk that, knowing how good I was to the family? I don't get it.

O'REILLY You know, the New York scene, you still live here a lot of it. I don't, I don't see you in Hollywood. No, do you ever live out there?

PALMINTERI Yeah, I did live in Hollywood. I did lived there from '86 to '91, maybe five years.

O'REILLY Yeah.

PALMINTERI I liked it.

O'REILLY Yeah. Out there in your black shirt on the Santa Monica Pier?

PALMINTERI Yeah. Well, you know what, I have to tell you, Bill, back then it was a lot nicer than it is now. It's 30 years ago, it was great, the weather was great. I came back because we were going to have children and my wife wanted to be close to her mother and I was coming back to do Bronx Tale with Robert De Niro and I said, okay, it's a good time to go back. That's why we went back.

O'REILLY But you are ingrained New Yorker, right?

PALMINTERI Yeah, I'm in New Yorker, yeah.

O'REILLY Because there's a fleet of guys around New York, Buscemi, you mentioned.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay. Shirripa.

PALMINTERI Shirripa.

O'REILLY These are guys that there's old school guys.

PALMINTERI Oh yeah, those are the guys, you know, there's Bob De Niro, there's Joe Pesci, there is Chris Walken, Harvey Keitel, all of us, we're New Yorkers, yes.

O'REILLY But you're all crazy. Do you ever think about that? You're all insane.

PALMINTERI Yes. I think you have to be a little off to do that. I mean, nobody wants to pay $400 or $500 a ticket to see a normal person on Broadway. They want to see somebody who's different.

O'REILLY Volatile. You could do anything at any time.

PALMINTERI Anything. That's what it makes a great actor.

O'REILLY And that's would that when I had dinner with Pacino, that's when you got off him.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY I didn't know whether I was gonna get Attica and on a table, or he was gonna do this and I had done it with Warren Beatty now I'm dropping names all over the place.

PALMINTERI That's all right.

O'REILLY But it was opposite It was opposite. Yeah. It was Opposite and you could see it. Okay So he got, you know, one icon, Pacino, who, no idea, and believe me, I grilled him about the Godfather. And then I talked politics with Beatty, a very left-wing guy. But I knew Beatty was under control, that he wasn't going to mess up a salad no matter what. With Pacino I might have got the salad on me. And that's the difference between New York which is all emotion, and LA, which is all calculation.

PALMINTERI Boy, do I got a story to tell you about that, but I won't say it on the...

O'REILLY Oh, come on.

PALMINTERI Nah, nah.

O'REILLY You don't even have to use the right name. I'll know it.

PALMINTERI Ah, no, yeah, well, he passed away. I did a movie where I wrote, and I hired a director myself, but I hired him with Bob, and we did the movie. And we had a tough time, very tough time with the director. And he just was so headstrong. He wouldn't listen, he wouldn't take my advice, he wouldn't take De Niro's advice. A great director. I mean, great director. Academy Award-winning director.

O'REILLY This isn't a Bronx Tale, is it?

PALMINTERI Oh, no, no.

O'REILLY It's another movie.

PALMINTERI This is another movie I wrote. And in the end, the movie came out, and it did okay. It's doing well now. Now people really like it. But at the time, it didn't do that well.

O'REILLY Come on, tell me the name of the movie, you can do that.

PALMINTERI Well, the move was Faithful.

O'REILLY Faithful?

PALMINTERI Faithful, F-A-I-T-H-F-U-L, Faithful.

O'REILLY Okay, and the guy's dead now?

PALMINTERI The director, yes. And a great director, let me say that for the record, a great director. And I was at a party, and I don't know if this is bad, but I know when you told me the story, I went, damn Bill, you're so on the money. And Warren Beatty came over to me, because Warren was a very good friend of his. And he said, hey, hey Chazz, how you doing? I said, Hey Warren, how are you doing, we start talking. And he says, what ever happened with your movie? How did that all happen? Because he knew there was trouble on the set. So I told him, and he looked at me and he went, thanks.

O'REILLY That was it.

PALMINTERI That was it.

O'REILLY Right.

PALMINTERI And I was just like, damn. That was calculated. And I don't know Warren, I hear he's a great guy. But the man just looked at me, got the info and went...

O'REILLY That's it.

PALMINTERI Thanks.

O'REILLY Right.

PALMINTERI All right. I have my answer, boom. But I was like...

O'REILLY They're compartmentalized out there and I'm generalizing now.

PALMINTERI And I was, like, gee, Warren.

O'REILLY So there is a huge difference. It's like the L.A. Dodgers and the Yankees.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay, so Dodgers are mercenaries, they're out there. They come to the games.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY They so what they do. The Yankees have got a... They're looking back at Mickey Manil. They're looking back at Joe DiMaggio. Dodgers ain't lookin' at anybody but the nice-lookin' woman in the third row, okay? It's a big, big gulf that people don't understand.

PALMINTERI People yeah, I'll never forget that it was like... And I wanted to talk to you about Korea. I couldn't wait to talk you about life, about...

O'REILLY But he's gone.

PALMINTERI He was gone and I was so disappointed because I wanted her to speak to him about shampoo. He's made some of the great movies.

O'REILLY Bonnie and Clyde.

PALMINTERI Bonnie and Clyde, Splendor in the Grass.

O'REILLY Yeah.

PALMINTERI I couldn't wait to talked him and he just kind of just said, okay. Thanks. And I was like, wow.

O'REILLY I'll try to set that up.

PALMINTERI I would love to talk to him about that.

O'REILLY Yeah, he doesn't want anything to do with me, but if I say, Hey, Warren, I'm coming over unless you talk to Chazz.

PALMINTERI I was such a fan of his, you know, I really was.

O'REILLY Don't take it personally.

PALMINTERI I got hurt. Like I went, damn.

O'REILLY No, no, no. No, Warren's never going to be from the neighborhood.

PALMINTERI Yeah, I guess so.

O'REILLY Never. Warren lives in his own neighborhood and there's only one person in it. Warren.

PALMINTERI Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. I'd like to ask you a question, but maybe we'll do it off the air.

O'REILLY No, you can do it if you want.

PALMINTERI I this this is a question and maybe you could just tell me, Bill. Why is it... Why is it that the left, especially the academia, hates the right, capitalism, the billionaires, so much? And I say to myself, okay, because I try to read and learn about it. And I go, well, capitalism, because I love to learn, I want to learn. And it's like, if you look at Dale Carnegie, Rockefeller, I mean, they did some horrible things, but capitalism builds things. The railroads, they build things. Without that rockets, who knows? Academia doesn't build anything. They have ideas. And in their ideas, it's almost like they're jealous of people who build things. Why is it that it's always capitalism against academia? I never get academia who's a capitalist.

O'REILLY Well, number one, you're a beneficiary of capitalism.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY Because you created something that people want to see. And they have rewarded you financially.

PALMINTERI Right.

O'REILLY Very simple. Number two, for some convoluted reason, many academics, and I attended Harvard, as you may know, okay. Believe that you couldn't have done what you did. In fact, Obama said this to me, without the government. Are you blanking kidding me?

PALMINTERI But that's not true.

O'REILLY Of course not, but he believes it and so do his acolytes in The academic circles many many many of them, that... Okay, slaves and Native Americans with the land and everybody who got hosed in our country...

PALMINTERI Right.

O'REILLY Contributed to Palminteri and O'Reilly living large. And they don't like it. That's the answer to your question.

PALMINTERI You know, and I voted for Obama, and he did, look, he did some things, he started at least caring about the Obamacare, worrying about other people, and I respect that. He did start that.

O'REILLY He wasn't a bad president.

PALMINTERI No, and, I respect that, but I, no, I'm sorry, the government didn't make me do anything.

O'REILLY No.

PALMINTERI No, I'm sorry.

O'REILLY Right, and the same thing.

PALMINTERI No.

O'REILLY Just get out of our way.

PALMINTERI Just get out of the way and leave me alone.

O'REILLY Right.

PALMINTERI No, no.

O'REILLY Chazz Palminteri. Thank you very much for taking the time.

PALMINTERI Thank you.

O'REILLY It was a great discussion and we really appreciate it.

PALMINTERI Thanks a lot.

Killing Time with Chazz Palminteri

2026-05-07T16:00:00Z

Bill talks to Chazz Palminteri about Hollywood, politics, and living in New York.

We'll Do It LIVE! - Chazz Palminteri

2026-05-07T16:00:00Z

PALMINTERI Bush lied, nothing happens, Hillary lied, nothing happens. Everybody lies, nobody goes to jail. That's a lie.

O'REILLY So that keeps your Italian up.

PALMINTERI That gets my Italian up.

O'REILLY Am I allowed to say that?

PALMINTERI Yeah, you are allowed. Black and white is white. Two and two are four. Can I curse? I gotta be careful here. I gotta get fired up.

O'REILLY Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to We'll Do It Live, our long-form podcast. So a friend of mine agreed to do the program, and a lot of my friends won't do the program because they know how obnoxious I am, and so they won't do it. But Chazz Palminteri and I have been friends for about a decade, and we have a lot in common, which you wouldn't think. I mean, you get the Irish guy, get the Italian guy, got Bronx Chazz, and a Levittown O'Reilly. But we're both baby boomers. Both came up under the same kind of family situation, whereas Chazz's father was a bus driver. My father's a low-level accountant. We didn't have a lot of money. We had used cars. My parents couldn't get rid of me, go out, go play, be back when the streetlights are on. But it was the kid world, it was not the parent world. And Chazz, you're up a lot of the same way. Now, this is an amazing stat. He has had a play called A Bronx Tale. 37 years, that play has been viable. And here he is. I can't believe this play is 37 years, of course, there was a movie with you and De Niro.

PALMINTERI Yeah, it was a play first, then a movie.

O'REILLY Right, and now you're going to London to do it. Yes, and you've got what, 19 shows coming up or something?

PALMINTERI I got 19 shows coming up in the United States, and then I decided to do it at the West End. I sold out at the Leicester Square Theater on the West End. I sold out June 6th in 24 hours. Then I'll be in Portugal at the St. George Theater June 10th. And I sold it out there.

O'REILLY So it's a universal thing.

PALMINTERI It's amazing, Bill. I really mean it. I'm so humbled by it. I really am. You know, it was a big hit as a play, a big hit as a musical, a big hit as a movie, and it just rolls. The musical is still running out of town. It just rolls on.

O'REILLY And I don't really understand why somebody in Leicester Square would wanna know about the Bronx, who would wanna know about the ethnic upbringing of an American working class in the Bronx, but they want to know.

PALMINTERI It's been a brand for me, it's my brand that's been there for 37 years. And people just can't get enough of it. It is like, you don't just see it once. People see it 10, 20, 30 times. I think it just, it says something. It says something about the way America, I think, I could be romanticizing, used to be. Father, son, mother, values. It's really, really...You see, it doesn't make, where, where Goodfellas was one of the great movies of all time, that was about black and white. My play is about gray and gray. Sonny is telling the boy exactly the same things as the father.

O'REILLY And he's the mob guy.

PALMINTERI But he's a mob guy, but he's saying, stay in school, make something out of yourself. Don't be like these jerk-offs around here. You know, do something with your life. Don't do what I do. And so it's so weird, and so, it's like the essence of you have to navigate with him how do you tell what's good and what's bad? Sometimes it looks good, but it's a little, like my father was the salt of the earth. But if he thought his son was dating a black woman, he would have been upset by that. Not because he was prejudiced, because my father also was a trainer and he had black fighters. It was because he looked at me and said, I don't want this kid to go through this. In this neighborhood, where Sonny, you would think he was prejudiced, he wasn't.

O'REILLY But your father could have been a mob guy. Anybody in the Bronx could have been a mob guy.

PALMINTERI My dad was just always so sweet and humble. Me, I could have been. Absolutely. No question I could've been.

O'REILLY Okay, but your father, who came, obviously, before you, chose to be a working person and to forgo the easy money of shaking people down and doing what the mob did.

PALMINTERI More than that, Bill, he was offered $150 in 1960, $150 was a lot of money. Our rent was $38 a month. And all he had to do was pick up numbers. A guy was going to hand them a slip of paper on one bus stop. He was gonna go to the end, the last stop, and hand it to another guy. That's all he had to for $150. He would not do it.

O'REILLY Did he ever explain to you why?

PALMINTERI Well, yeah, when I got older, he explained to me, he said, because once they get their hooks in you, that's it. He says, if you're gonna say no, you have to say no from the beginning. He says the worst thing to do with wise guys is say yes, do it for a while, then say no. Can't do that.

O'REILLY No, they don't like that.

PALMINTERI They don't like that.

O'REILLY So you mentioned that it was a different era, a different country, you know, the United States coming off World War II, you're a baby boomer, so am I. And we lived according to a code. And you're Catholic.

PALMINTERI Yes, I am.

O'REILLY Okay. And the code was, you don't lie, particularly to your friends. I mean, I lied to my parents. That was big, that was huge.

PALMINTERI So did I, yeah.

O'REILLY And you're loyal.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY Almost to a criminal extent, look the other way, if your friends are in trouble. You're not a rat.

PALMINTERI You're no rat.

O'REILLY And it was a simpler way of life because there was a code, particularly here in New York.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY Where you were, and I was. And that code is gone.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY So the question then becomes, and you have to keep it, and you mentioned it, the African-American experience as well. Was it a better country post-World War II, when you and I were kids coming up, than it is now?

PALMINTERI Well, no one's ever asked me that question like you just did. Was it a better country? I think, I don't know if it was a better country because I still believe we're the greatest country in the world. Was America as a whole in a better space? You know, there was really bad racism back then. That I have to say. So, I can't say it was better. But I say it was less out in the open, the problems. I mean, the racism in the 50s and 60s was pretty bad, so I wouldn't want to have that again. But in some ways it was better, in some ways it's not.

O'REILLY I think that's a fair answer.

PALMINTERI I think so, yes.

O'REILLY That we are a country even today that's struggling to do the right thing about certain social problems that are very, very difficult, and people see things a different way. I mean, look, you and I in a million years would never have voted for Mamdani.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY In a million years.

PALMINTERI Never. No.

O'REILLY Okay, because our experience is you're self-reliant, you make it on your own.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY Okay. You go into the arena, you fight the fight, and you come out either bloodied or successful.

PALMINTERI I think that's what makes, that's what made America great, is that you had to do, you can do it, but you gotta do it, you know, the old cliche, pick up yourself by your bootstraps and do it. The greatest gift my parents ever gave me was poverty. They gave me so much love, but they didn't have money. So to me, I was like, you know, my age now, I still work as hard as ever.

O'REILLY But you don't work for money, though?

PALMINTERI No.

O'REILLY I mean, you're an artist. I saw you in the Bronx Tale. It's amazing how your delivery is flawless. I don't work for money either, but I understand what you're saying. It was, look, we're poor, so what? We'll work so we're not.

PALMINTERI Exactly.

O'REILLY And we'll have a different circumstance. The Italian thing. So you haven't come under a lot of scrutiny, I came a little bit before you with Columbo and those guys, real big-time mobsters, that objected to actors and people like you portraying Italians as gangsters.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY What do you feel about?

PALMINTERI Well, you know what, Columbo was a gangster and a very big gangster and a very tough gangster. So you know, if you're going to walk the walk, you know, talk the talk, you've got to walk to walk. Columbo used that. Look, was he a proud Italian? Yes, but he was also a gangster at the same time. So I don't want to hear Columbo tell me, we weren't gangsters. Now, but can you tell me that I can't play a gangster in a movie? People hated the Sopranos. I said, why did you hate the soprano? The Sopranos, to me, was a great, great television series. Why do you hate it? Makes Italians look bad. But if you want to talk about art, you have to have drama. Drama, at its core, is good versus evil. That's it. That's what drama is, to show the good, you have to show the evil. It's very simple. Otherwise, you know, do a documentary about the beauty of being Italian. That's fine, you could do that. But basically, nobody's going to tune into it. A lot of people won't tune into it.

O'REILLY Well, the tenors might get some people. But the truth is that in the New York area, organized crime is dominated by Italians.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY And there's a history to it. I wrote about it in Killing the Mob.

PALMINTERI No question.

O'REILLY Now, when you were making a film with Robert De Niro, a very explosive guy, brilliant actor, no doubt about it, did you guys ever come up against each other politically? Because he's so left.

PALMINTERI No, no, not at all. I never talked politics with Bob, ever. Never. No, I believe in everyone has the right to be whatever they want. You know, I'm an independent, you know, I each election I decide who I want to vote for, but never once, even till this day, never once do I ever talk politics with Bob. I respect Bob to the ultimate high heavens. He's an artist.

O'REILLY And he didn't start with you.

PALMINTERI Never, ever, we've never done that. We'll, yeah, never, ever. He's one of my dear friends, and I love him to death, and we'd never talk about that.

O'REILLY Now, Woody Allen, I know a little bit, and obviously, he's had a very controversial life.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY Any inkling of that when you were working with him?

PALMINTERI No, but if you, the movie I did... I don't know anything about Woody's personal life at all. As an artist, he's like, to me, like Charlie Chaplin. He will be looked at many years from now like that. His personal life, yeah, I mean, you know, probably could have made better choices. He, to me, he's, but you could see in his art, when I did Bullets Over Broadway, about each artist creates his own moral universe. If you listen to the dialogue in that, and it was almost like him speaking, you know, to me. But I never spoke with him about his personal life because that's his. And I don't know right or wrong what happened, but I know as an artist, he is truly one of the greatest that ever lived.

O'REILLY Feel sorry for him when he got into that trouble?

PALMINTERI Yeah, I did. I did because, you know, I don't know who said it, it was in the Bible, but they said, your good deeds are written in water, and your bad deeds are in stone. And it's amazing, it's like Joe Paterno, who had 50 years at Penn State. And then, because of a misjudgment of not telling his friend that he should, informing the authorities on his friend. All the good deeds he did, gone. Bill Cosby, all the good deeds, gone. Temple University, taking down his statues. All these people that did so much in their whole life, their legacy, gone. That breaks my heart. It really does. I see that, and I go, my God, 50 years. Bill Cosby was America's dad. He was loved by the world. That's fascinating to me, Bill. It really is.

O'REILLY It's the kind of culture, judgmental place America is. I mean, you form these judgments a lot of times without due process, a lot of times on false information.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY Not in the case that we're talking about, but as a human being, you go, whoa, their whole life evaporates right before their eyes.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY I know. And it's something and nobody is spared from it if you get involved with this kind of stuff. Now, if you had to do it over again, because I know your kids are enacting now, right?

PALMINTERI Yes.

Okay. See, showbiz is kind of, to me, and I'm just on the periphery of it, I'm not sure I want to put my kids through it. The rejection level is unbelievable.

PALMINTERI Unbelievable, it really is. And I said to them, because they grew up in the business, and my wife had them performing when they were very young, and she said, well, let's see if they like it. They both loved it, they both kept it up. They went to great schools. I said, look, if you want to do this, you gotta get into a great college, and you gotta study and work hard and graduate. Otherwise, don't even talk to me about this. And they both did. My daughter went to the University of Michigan, my son went to the Berkeley School of Music and Art in Boston. They both graduated, and they're both working hard. And they're struggling, absolutely. But they see, I said to them, no is always the answer you're gonna get. But think of it this way. If I told you right now that you're going to get 100 nos, but the 101st is gonna be a yes, how would you feel? And then you just got a no. They would go, well, I would feel, all right, 99 more nos. That's how you gotta look at it. That's how you've gotta look at it.

O'REILLY One of the advantages that you've had in your career is that you work with an amazing amount of talent.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY And even on a show like Blue Bloods, you know, the segment with you and Selleck, okay, where you're his buddy from the neighborhood.

PALMINTERI Right.

O'REILLY Interesting, they ripped that off from you.

PALMINTERI Whatever, yeah.

O’REILLY And he's the police commissioner. But there's something about those scenes, you know? Now, when the audience is paying attention to them, they go, this is a little bit elevated here. These two guys, they know what they're doing.

PALMINTERI Yeah, well, he's a great, but you know, Selleck is a real pro, a great actor, you know? And I like being with someone like that. It's great to play. You know, I love playing. I would like to play basketball with Michael Jordan, you know, because people just elevate you. Not that I could ever be even the same...

O'REILLY No, I know, you just wanna be around.

PALMINTERI I wanna be around greatness. I wanna play, I have a very, you know, I have a lot of confidence, probably too much for my own good, as my son would say. But I wanna be with the greatest actors. I'm not worried about me. I know I can hold my own, and that's how I feel.

O'REILLY So you're not intimidated at all? You walk into these people... And Gandolfini and he was an intimidating guy.

PALMINTERI Yeah, yeah, he was, but no, no. I mean, look, my first movie was, to me, the greatest act of my generation, and that was Robert De Niro. And I wasn't intimidated at all. And I think Bob appreciated that because if I was intimidated, then, well, he wouldn't want to work with me. That wouldn't have been good, you know? I just felt like I belong here at this moment in time. And I didn't feel, did I feel intimidated? I remember the first time I read with him. I was over at the apartment, and he said to me, he goes, why don't we just read the dialogue, you and I? And I went, sure. And we read the dialogue, and he says, ah, that's great. All right, I'll see you tomorrow. And then I left, and I got in the elevator, and then it hit me when I was in the elevator, as I was going down, I went, I just acted with Robert De Niro. And I went damn. I went, wow.

O'REILLY It's impressive, sure.

PALMINTERI Yeah, I remember I said that, yeah. I mean, he's... He's one of the greats, you know.

O'REILLY Is there ever any one-upsmanship? When you get great athletes together, they try to, you know, outdo the other, things like that. I mean, I certainly am guilty about that. I want to be the best in the world. And if I see somebody, you know, I want to go up against them, see what you've got. Is there any one-upsmanship when you're doing scenes with these legendary people?

PALMINTERI Well, I was doing a play with Al Pacino in New York, and it was out, and in this one scene, the play was The Resistible Rise of Arturo Uy. It's a Brecht play, and Al was the main character. I was his partner, Roman, and then there was John Cusack and Steve Buscemi, me and Al, the four of us on stage, and Steve Buscemi had this monologue. He does a monologue, we all do a monologue, and he did a monologue, and you could tell, the audience, I mean the audience had Paul McCarthy in it, I mean it was like Harrison Ford, and he's just ripping it up. And then John Goodman, another incredible actor, he takes it to another level, and I was like, oh damn, I'm next. You could just feel it, that this night was different. But I had an advantage, because I was allowed to where they had to stay in place. So then I go, and I am going back and forth. I'm ripping it up. I'm doing, we all improved a little bit as far as doing things. And I ripped it up even at the next level. And in my mind, I'm going, where's Al gonna go with this one? And Al just starts, and Al's tearing it up, and he stands up on the throne, and he does the last half standing up on a throne. And I just looked at him, and I'll never forget, I went, son of a bitch. Look at that, in my mind, watching him do that. And he was, you know, for people who don't know Al Pacino, they know him on film, but to see Al on stage is something else, man.

O'REILLY He commands the audience. And that brings me to the Godfather, which is now in the culture as the defining look at from the outside.

PALMINTERI Right

O'REILLY Of course, organized crime.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY Now, what do you think about that whole project?

PALMINTERI About The Godfather?

O'REILLY Yeah.

PALMINTERI Oh, to me, it's probably one of the greatest movies, my top five greatest movies ever made. I mean, Godfather I and II, which is very rare to get a sequel as good as the first, and maybe even better, maybe. It was brilliant, yeah.

O'REILLY Do you know Coppola?

PALMINTERI I met him a bunch of times. I met him like two or three times. I don't know him. I can't say I know him, but I met him, and he's always very cordial to me.

O'REILLY Because all of these characters were perfectly cast, that's what made the film.

PALMINTERI Yeah!

O'REILLY I mean, every one of them from Fredo on to, you know, Tom Hagen, Robert DuVal. I mean, it was perfect after perfect, after perfect.

PALMINTERI Yeah, they wanted Robert Redford, you know, for the part of Michael, and then they wanted Ryan O'Neill, because he just came off Love Story, and Coppola refused. He said no.

O'REILLY No, that would not have made it.

PALMINTERI You know, I always wonder, I wonder what it would, because it's such a great movie, what would it have been like if they did it? I don't know.

O'REILLY Too waspy.

PALMINTERI Too waspy!

O'REILLY Yeah, you can't have the wasps in there.

PALMINTERI Yeah, Al told me he was getting fired, right from Al's mouth. He said, until I did the scene in the restaurant where I kill Salazzo and the cop, when they saw that, they went, Okay, he can stay.

O'REILLY Now, after the Godfather, that's when a lot of the anti-Italian stuff rushes, right? Were you involved with any of that?

PALMINTERI No, I was not, no.

O'REILLY Stayed out of it?

PALMINTERI No, I mean, I wasn't famous then. I was still a young actor in New York. No, I wasn't t involved in that at all. You know, I just, you know, don't get me wrong. Do we get known as the mafia a lot? Yes. But you know what? I'm proud of my heritage. I'm proud of what the Italian Americans did. And I always fight against it. You know, they told me not to do the documentary for Columbus. And they asked me to be the voice of the narration. And I did it, because I'm proud of the Italians. And I thought we should do it, you know? That was my opinion.

O'REILLY And you got really angry about Mother Cabrini.

PALMINTERI Well, Mother Cabrini, I hit the ceiling. I hit the ceiling on Mother Cabrini.

O'REILLY Yeah, I got to set it up. It was that Bill de Blasio, probably the worst mayor, we have to give Mamdani a little time on that, but she objected to New York City honoring Mother Cabrini.

PALMINTERI Yeah, but they came up with the rules, she did. She said, let's have a vote for all the women. She said it, his wife, let us have a vote for the women, and we're gonna put seven statutes up for all of the women, and let's see who comes in first. Mother Cabrini comes in 1st, triple more than anyone, anyone. She goes, well, we'll put Mother Cabrini on the next round, which means it ain't happening. I know that. So, they asked me my opinion. And I thought it was wrong. I said, if anything, it was biased. I mean, I'm sorry, that's wrong, you can't do that. She won the vote. Sure, does Billie Holiday deserve it? Rosa Parks, absolutely. Great American women. Billie, yes, but Mother Cabrini won. She can't go in, is that a problem here? So she refused to do it. I hit the ceiling, so I started speaking out. Bill de Blasio said, you called my wife, he said, Chazz Palmiteri called my wife a racist, so he was on the radio once. It was front page news, front page daily news. Front page. And I called up, and he said did you, and they put me through, I couldn't believe it. Because he was in the air with people, the mayor. And he said yeah, put him through. He goes, Chazz Palmatieri, did you call my wife a racist? I went, yes, I did. Silence on the phone. Then I thought, everybody's hearing this. I said yes, I said at least it was explicit bias. I said she won, mayor. She won, why wouldn't you put up a statue for her? She's going to be on the next round. I go, why? Why? She...triple the vote.

O'REILLY Oh, it was skin color, I mean, you know.

PALMINTERI Of course it was!

O'REILLY Everybody knew it.

PALMINTERI And that's not fair.

O'REILLY That's true.

PALMINTERI That's not fair.

O'REILLY Do you believe, though, that African Americans are owed a debt by this country?

PALMINTERI You mean reparations?

O'REILLY Yeah, that and preferential treatment, like Billie Holiday over Mother Cabrini.

PALMINTERI That I don't like, no. Do I... Look, I mean, if we've got to be honest, we've got to be. On I try to do everything I can for civil rights. I really do. I write all my movies. That's why I wrote the story in the Bronx. That's me. I would date black girls in the '68. That's true. And I love when people go, that would never happen. I go, well, I'm closure. That's my name. It did happen. So I wanted to put that in to show how racism affected me and affected that time, how people were racist. That was important to me, because I wasn't. My father had black fighters that he trained, and they would come up the house in my building on 187th Street, and people would go, hey, Lorenzo, what are you doing? What's going on with this guy? My father said he's one of my fighters. Leave him alone. So my father was always like, you know, and I grew up, hey, my father would get off out of his seat, a black woman in a bus, pick her bags up. He would do that white or black. So I never grew up racist. So to me, anything I can do would help. But getting back to your question, I didn't dodge it. I want you to know that, you know, a lot of people go, hey, you know, it's like, it's really, you know, the black people and Hispanic and Chinese are getting a really, a leg up on even white people. And my two kids are in the business, and they lost parts to a different color. And I say to them, it's okay. I said, it okay, you just keep hanging in there. And it's okay. And I look at it this way, you know, we had a leg on them for a long time. So it's okay that they have a little advantage on us now. I'm all right with that. I really am. I'm okay with that, but I just want the best person to get the part.

O'REILLY Well, you said something a moment ago that it's not fair. The DEI stuff isn't fair.

PALMINTERI I don't think it's fair. No.

O'REILLY It isn't fair.

PALMINTERI It isn't fair.

O'REILLY Because you're choosing someone on the basis of their skin color. Martin Luther King didn't want you to do that.

PALMINTERI That was the essence of what he said.

O'REILLY Right, right.

PALMINTERI Martin Luther King.

O'REILLY And this is how things get out of control in this country.

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O'REILLY Now, do you follow the news? I mean, I know you watched my program when I was on Fox, but do you follow the day-to-day comings and goings?

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY You do?

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY You said you're an independent.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY When you are following the news, are you satisfied that the media is being honest with you?

PALMINTERI I don't, you know what? I don't know anymore, Bill. I have to be honest with you. I don't know anymore. I see, you know, and I always watch, I watch Fox, I watch CNN. Or I always watch other channels. I'm saying, I wanna see what everybody says. So I like to watch as much as I could. I go on, I watch podcasts, your podcasts, you know, the No Spin Zone. And I watch other people's too. And I watched Tucker Carlson. I watch, I look at a lot of different people. Way to the left, way to the right. Because I said, is somebody, who is lying here? Who is lying? And I just, but then I look around, and I say, okay, I gotta understand this for myself. But I don't know, I'm confused a lot sometimes. I have to be honest with you.

O'REILLY Everybody's confused. That's why I've been in the business 50 years to un-confuse them as best I can. But when you're watching, because you are a patriot, you love your country, and you are an independent, do you think that you're getting the information you need?

PALMINTERI I don't think so. I think there's some stuff they just hide from us for some reason.

O'REILLY Well, they don't like Trump, so Trump is going to play negative in most of the media outlets. But I think people know that now, and it can work for you, and certainly he's used that to set up, look, these people are never going to tell the truth about me. But I get upset when there's basically people being paid to lie.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY In your neighborhood in the Bronx, if you were a liar and everybody knew who the liars were.

PALMINTERI Right, right.

O'REILLY Everybody knew.

PALMINTERI Right, no.

O'REILLY They were like ostracized.

PALMINTERI No, no question, no question, Bill. Absolutely. I could...I don't like when something is so obvious, so obvious, that's when I get upset. When you say and again, this is how I felt when I can I have to go to when I go to work. I couldn't go to work unless I got a COVID shot, my family had to get COVID shots. I cannot go on the set. I had a movie, I just got a movie, and they would not hire me unless I got a COVID shot. Then on the, then the same day, 10,000 people over the border, who are strangers, that we have no idea who they are, not vetted, they don't need no COVID shot, that's a lie. I go, black and white is white, two and two are four. That's, can I curse? I mean, I don't know. That's a lie. Period, that's a lie.

O'REILLY So that gets your Italian up.

PALMINTERI That gets my Italian up.

O'REILLY Are you allowed to say that?

PALMINTERI Yeah, you are allowed to say that. You know, when Dr. Fauci says certain things, I don't want to get into him because he's an Italian-American, but when you stop us from doing certain things that, you know, Bill... I mean, I've got to be careful here, I get fired up. When I get fired up...

O'REILLY I want you to get fired up. Come on.

PALMINTERI No, when I got when I first time I got COVID, I didn't even know. My wife got it, and my wife almost died, and I think about it because my best friend died, they were in the hospital at the same time. He died, and do you know what? She almost died. But thank God to Jesus Christ that she didn't die. She could have gotten certain things, but they wouldn't give it to her. They wouldn't give it to her. Then finally, she got some of it, and I'm not good at remembering the names, and it pulled her out of it. Thank God, she's okay, but if they would have been able to give it to my friend that, who had it before, he would have lived. I'm only saying this to cut to, the second time I got COVID, I got real sick. And being who, you know, who I am as a celebrity, I know all the doctors in the big hospitals. And they said, we can't give him that. The government took it away from us. And I said, I want what Trump had, that, because I knew what he got. I said I want that. They said, We can't do it. So I called another one of my very high-profile friends, and he said to me, don't worry about it. I'll have the doctor there in three or four hours. Don't worry. He'll give it to you himself. I was like, great. Because it was a lot, whatever, I think it was $9,000. I said, not a problem, get him here. The guy comes, I'm sick as a dog, temperature, I am sick. Trouble breathing, I mean, I'm getting ready to go to the hospital. He walks over to me, he goes, how long have you had this? I said this is the third day. He goes, okay, you'll be fine. He gives me the intravenous pill, right? After the intravenous, he gives me another thing called a vitamin thing. And he goes, just rest now, you'll be better tomorrow. I'm like, better? I'm looking at it, better tomorrow? I'm a wreck, right? I swear on my mother and father, Bill, I woke up at four in the morning, gone. It was gone. It was like it never happened. I had my bathrobe on, I was sweating, I went, what the hell? I slept downstairs on the big recliner. I didn't want to go near my wife. It was gone. And I said, well, why didn't they do this for all these people that were sick? Why didn't they? So they gave us a shot, a shot that they knew didn't work, that they knew could get people sick. That is wrong, that's wrong.

O'REILLY They're looking at it now, interestingly enough, it hasn't gotten a lot of attention, but Fauci's top guy is now being investigated by the Department of Justice for doing just what you've described, not being upfront about the medicinal potential of certain drugs. But the government, I don't trust the government.

PALMINTERI No, no, I know.

O'REILLY I'd rather trust your guys in the Bronx.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY At least if they say something, I know they're gonna do it, even if it's bad.

PALMINTERI Bill, you can answer me this question. Why is it when both Democrats and Republicans do something wrong, nobody ever goes to jail? They go, yep, we caught them, red-handed, but nobody goes to jail.

O'REILLY Yeah, it's hard to get the convictions because of the lawyers, and you know.

PALMINTERI Nobody. Bush lied, nothing happens. Hillary lied, nothing happens, everybody lies. Nobody goes to jail. I mean, so what is this? Sometimes I think they're in the game together. I think the Republicans, they're behind closed doors, they're going, all right, I'll blame you, you blame me.

O'REILLY But there's gotta be a reason to deny you medicine that would cure you that fast. There's gotta be a reason for that.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY And we don't know what the reason is, because...

PALMINTERI The reason was they wanted everybody to get the shot. The money.

O'REILLY Could be, but Bush, Trump I should say, he did a good job. I was in some of that with that Operation Warp Speed.

PALMINTERI Right.

O'REILLY He got it out there, and he made deals with these pharmaceutical companies who made a bloody fortune.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY But the deals didn't go far enough. And I don't know if the president knew what the potential was or not. I guess he had it. I don't know. You know, you would like to know what he had. I would too.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

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O'REILLY When you go on a set, now you're an icon, and what an icon is is somebody who's established themselves to the point where you may not like them, but you gotta respect them.

PALMINTERI Yes.

O'REILLY Okay, it's like Babe Ruth. All right, he's this fat guy who has a plate in there that goes 450 feet. You know, you say that's the Babe.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY We don't really, you know, he's doing crazy stuff post midnight, it doesn't matter. You're one of those icon guys, and has that seeped in?

PALMINTERI No, no, and it's good that it doesn't because I learned something, because I was in therapy, I still am once in a while, I go back. And what I learned from that is that I take my work very seriously, but I don't take my fame seriously. I don't.

O'REILLY No, the fame doesn't mean that much?

PALMINTERI No.

O'REILLY You act, you've got your own restaurant.

PALMINTERI No question, Bill. But I don't take it seriously to the point of I don't know who I am. I know who I am.

O'REILLY You're the same guy you watch.

PALMINTERI Same, my friends who grew up with me in the street.

O'REILLY Yeah, me too.

PALMINTERI Say, you're the same guy, Chazz.

O'REILLY Well, my friends go a step further. How come you're not in a penitentiary? That's what they say to me. I mean, really, these guys that I've known since I'm six years old.

PALMINTERI That's funny, yeah.

O'REILLY They go, You should be in jail. What are you doing?

PALMINTERI Yeah, no, my friends say you're the same crazy guy you've always been. Because I am. Because fame, I know fame will go away. And you know, it will go away. You know, and it does. And I...

O'REILLY Well, the fame, but the accomplishment won't.

PALMINTERI Like, my work will last forever. That's what I'm saying.

O’REILLY Right. The Bronx Tale's not going away.

PALMINTERI There's only two things you can leave behind after you're gone, in my opinion. Your art and your children. And I want to leave good, great kids, and I want to leave my art. That's all.

O'REILLY Do you have any struggles with the kids?

PALMINTERI Oh God, thank you, no.

O'REILLY No, they were good kids to raise?

PALMINTERI They were good kids.

O'REILLY They bought in?

PALMINTERI They were brought in, and they were great kids.

O'REILLY Did you ever have to tone the kids down because they were the sires of a famous actor?

PALMINTERI I toned them down, no, no, I mean.

O'REILLY Yeah, a little strut around and stuff.

PALMINTERI No, they weren't like that.

O'REILLY No.

PALMINTERI No, in fact, they don't talk about me. In fact, when my son had his first play date when he was seven, eight, I'll never forget it, when all the parents came over to the house, I opened the door, and each one would go, I'm sorry, you're Chazz Palminteri? I said yes. Dante's your son? I said, yes. They went, Oh my God. Never said a word.

O'REILLY No, they never did.

PALMINTERI They never knew.

O'REILLY No.

PALMINTERI They never knew.

O'REILLY See, my kids think I'm so obnoxious, they don't wanna talk about me.

PALMINTERI My kids probably, too. They don't want to, you know what, the only time they really started digging it, I'll tell you when, when they started getting just old enough where we walked into a really good restaurant and my son would walk in, and he'd say, we like a... And they'd say I'm sorry. And then he would wait until I walked in. And I'd walk in right behind him, and they would go, oh, Mr. Palminteri, how are you? Just give us a minute. And he would go...

O'REILLY You know what it is for my kids? First class air. They get first-class air.

PALMINTERI First class.

O'REILLY Right. That's all.

PALMINTERI That's all they want.

O'REILLY That's it.

PALMINTERI That's It.

O'REILLY They don't care about, you know, We'll Do It Live, No Spin Zone, the O'Reilly Factor. They go, Dad, flying first class?

PALMINTERI Are we flying his class? My kids used to say that, and they used to say this other thing, when we got to the hotel, Dad, is it a single door or double doors? Because they knew if it was double doors, it was a huge suite. If it was single doors, it was nice.

O'REILLY I see. So they were looking at the hotel accommodations.

PALMINTERI They were looking at the double doors.

O'REILLY Right.

PALMINTERI But, look, were they a little spoiled? Yes. But they had to work. They always did something. They had to go to school, they had to work hard.

O'REILLY Final question for you on this first round, we're gonna hold Chazz over for our Premium Members just for about 10 minutes. Some of the guys you grew up with didn't make it.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY Drugs, all that. Levittown, it was big, it came in after the Vietnam War and narcotics. When you watch that happen, because you have emotion invested in all the neighborhood people, right?

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY Is there any kind of thing that you could have done that you didn't do?

PALMINTERI I don't think so. Not at that age, no. Some of them, see, back then, it was different, Bill. Good guys and bad guys would all hang out together because we were all from the buildings, and we would hang out on the corner. And when the bad guys did something, they would slide off. When the good guys did, they would slide off. But we were all together all the time. It was always like tempting, tempting, you know, but there was really, I see, I never really, did I get high? Yes. Did I use a pot? Did I get cocaine? Yes. Back then, I was in a band when I was 19 years old, in the 60s, so that's, you know. But I never was, I always was an artist, like music, art, poetry, writing. I just, I just was blessed, my mother and father wrote the saddest thing in life is a waste of talent. Put it in my room, my two sisters' rooms. My two sisters were very successful. And then I was the last, and it was really my parents who just, my father, don't waste your life. Don't let the streets, don't waste your life here. Do something with your life. He instilled that, he made me.

O'REILLY But if you didn't have a dad, it would have been tough.

PALMINTERI It might've been, yeah.

O'REILLY You know, and that's what you're dealing with a lot of kids today. Fathers split.

PALMINTERI Yeah.

O'REILLY They got nobody over them, and they go the wrong way.

PALMINTERI Yeah, and I think it's wrong. I think it's wrong having, and I say this about people that, you know, don't be proud that you have four or five illegitimate kids. You know, I don't care, even if you're rich and you pay, you're not giving the five love. I don't care.

O'REILLY You've gotta be there.

PALMINTERI You've gotta be there.

O'REILLY You've gotta show up.

PALMINTERI You've gotta show up, but writing a check is easy. Yeah, yeah, all right. Right. Be there, be at his games, talk to him. That's different.

O'REILLY All right, so we're going to break away from Chazz, and we very much appreciate his time, of course, and we'll have a 10-minute overtime with our Premium and Concierge Members starting right now.

We'll Do It LIVE! - Chazz Palminteri

2026-05-07T16:00:00Z

Actor Chazz Palminteri joins Bill for an extensive conversation about the culture in America, political dishonesty, and COVID deception. Palminteri also tells your humble correspondent about working with Robert De Niro, his battle with former New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, and racism.

Killing Time

2026-05-07T15:44:00Z

Project Freedom, U.S.-Iran Talks

2026-05-07T15:35:00Z

Miguel Sancho Weighs in on the UFO Debate

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Miguel Sancho, author of Evidence of the Extraordinary: Discoveries from the Series The Proof Is Out There, gives his take on the existence of UFOs.

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Trump Suspends Project Freedom

2026-05-07T07:38:00Z

Bill breaks down why President Trump paused the U.S. operation “Project Freedom” and where things stand in reaching a deal with Iran.

Iran Talks

2026-05-07T07:03:00Z

Big day for the USA. Secretary of State Rubio is in Rome talking with the Pope and Prime Minister Meloni, talking about Iran. There’s also some dealmaking going on.

President Trump remains the strongest player in this mess, but it will take all his skills to tamp down the growing anger over $5-a-gallon gasoline. Hope he can do it. The world is becoming very dangerous, and the country needs strong leadership.

No partisan stuff, but I don’t see the Democratic Party as a game-changer, although NATO would like a switch.

Some things are beyond our control, and the Middle East is one of them. But all of us should be hoping the USA prevails.

Reasonable?

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Trump Suspends Project Freedom, Are the U.S. And Iran Close to a Deal? & Miguel Sancho Weighs in on the UFO Debate

2026-05-06T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, May 6, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks down why President Trump paused the U.S. operation “Project Freedom” and where things stand in reaching a deal with Iran.
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Why is former President Obama stepping back into the public eye?
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Trump Suspends Project Freedom, Are the U.S. And Iran Close to a Deal? & Miguel Sancho Weighs in on the UFO Debate

2026-05-06T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Wednesday, May 6, 2026. Stand up for your country. So it's very hard to analyze this Iranian conflict. I have very good sources, and it just changes every day. And I don't get classified briefings. Once in a while somebody will whisper something, but I don't have them, I don't see them, I don't know exactly. What is going on militarily or even strategy-wise. I just don't know, and it drives me crazy because I cannot pinpoint exactly what is happening between the United States and Iran. But here's what I do know. Most people outside of the journalism business have no idea what's going on. They don't know anything about this. They know that Iran's a terror state and that it would like to have a nuclear weapon. But that's it. They don't know Hormuz, they don't know oil futures, they don't know, they don't know. And you don't expect them to know. How are they gonna know? There was a documentary floating around over the weekend that said that the United States and Israel's bombing didn't knock out hardly any of the serious weapons the Iranians have. That's what the documentary said. I don't know, okay? I don't believe the documentary because it was done from an anti-American point of view. So whatever they said, I was skeptical about it. But I don't know. Maybe we didn't destroy as much of the ordinance that Iran has last summer. That's Possible. Weapons of mass destruction, George W. Bush, Iraq, come on.

Now, Americans, in particular, when they don't understand something, this is across the board, no matter what your hobby is or your situation is in the workplace or at home, if you don't understand, the tendency here is to get angry. We are not a patient people. A lot of anger, and it's rising. That's a threat to President Trump. Because, and I'm gonna go into specifics in a moment, it changes every day. But every day gas prices go up, that's a reality. People understand that. They're getting teed off. Okay. Talking Points Memo. So this Project Freedom has been suspended after one day. Most people in the world have no idea what Project Freedom is. I will tell you, it's to restore freedom of navigation for commercial shipping through the Straits of Hormuz and protect vessels who are going in and out of the Persian Gulf from Iranian attacks. That is Project Freedom. It was in place for one day, Monday. Tuesday, it was suspended. Okay. Why? Because the Pakistanis, who are trying to get a ceasefire agreement, a treaty of sorts, told President Trump that if you suspend it, we have a better chance of getting a deal. That's the explanation from the White House. Credible, credible, but it's another. It's not a flip-flop so much as it's another now what. So the U.S. has a very heavy military presence in Hormuz now, 15,000 Americans there. It can do pretty much what we want there, but the Iranians are being annoying and firing on this ship and using drones, and the insurance companies- that's a key to this- they don't want to insure the tankers going in and out of there, and if you don't have insurance. Then the companies who run the tankers don't want to go. Did you know that? It's a big part of all this. And Iran knows the more trouble it can cause at a lower level, the more the insurance companies are going to say, no, we're not going to insure you for going in and out of the straits. Okay, so, freedom, Project Freedom is over for now. Here's what Secretary of State Marco Rubio said. Go.

"Now, what's really important for you to report and for everyone to understand is this is not an offensive operation. This is a defensive operation. And what that means is very simple. There's no shooting unless we're shot at first. Okay, we're not attacking them. But if they are attacking us or they're attacking a ship, you need to respond to that."

Okay. It's a defensive posture. Again, do people understand that? What does that mean? They don't. But leave it aside. So apparently this is according to Axios, and I don't trust that organization. So a website thing, and they put out stuff. There is a one-page memo deal to end the conflict. But nothing has been agreed upon. So what good is it? All right, so it's floating around. And the deal that's floating around would be a moratorium on Iranian nuclear enrichment. What does that mean? A moratorium. I guess it means they stop enriching uranium, but I don't know what it means. Do they keep what they have? Because the scientists are saying they've got a lot of this stuff and it's close. I don't know what a moratorium is, okay? And that the United States, if they get the moratorium, would release a lot of frozen Iranian funds around the world, which would help Iran. And then Hormuz would be open for everybody to go through, but that would take about a month to do that. Why? Why would it take him about a month? I don't know. So that's what this memorandum, 14-point memorandum, allegedly says. Here's President Trump. Go.

"We're not going to let Iran have a nuclear weapon. And we're not gonna let that happen. And we won't let that happen. And so we're dealing with people that want to make a deal very much. And we'll see whether or not they can make a deal that's satisfactory to us. We have it very much under control."

I'm not sure about that because gasoline is approaching $5 a gallon. That's not under control. I think what the president is saying is that the military situation is under control, but I don't know. See what I mean? See, I mean, but I do this for a living. All right, not going to have a nuclear weapon. Okay. But there's a bunch of ways you can frame that. Some people might call it spinning. I don't know. I do know that no matter what deal comes forth, Democratic Party and the anti-Trumpers will say it's a bad deal. No matter what he gets. I do that. That will happen. So, where we are is, we are a nation that's getting teed off. And whenever that happens, the political party in power takes it right on the chin, always. No exceptions, always, and that's why there's pressure on President Trump to get this thing resolved. But the mullahs know that. And that's the Memo. I hope that's clear. If it isn't, Bill@BillOReilly.com. But I've given you what I have. And I'm, as I said, I'm not happy about this at all. I believe in the mission, had to happen. It's so confusing, and there's so many things that are going back and forth, back and forth. It's like Vietnam. I mean, it's exactly what it's like, and I lived through that. So in Vietnam, it was like every day on the news, well, we killed 10,000 Viet Cong. We did this. We bombed this. So we did that, and we didn't. It just got worse and worse and worse for us. And so many people were so angry, you saw it in the streets. Very similar. Not at the level of death and destruction, of course, but the mindset.

Now, one of the advantages that President Trump and the Republicans have in the midterms, which is coming up in five months now, is the incredibly irresponsible positions the Democratic Party are taking. I'm going to give you two examples of that. First is Iran. This is a Washington Post poll. And the question is, considering everything, do you think the USA did the right thing in using military force against Iran or think it was a mistake. Right decision 36, mistake 61. That's the total. For Democrats, mistake 91%. So the entire party, and that's why I say no matter what the resolution is, Democrats are going to say it's terrible. They're not gonna say it's good. All right, but that's a clear plurality that Americans don't want this, even though probably good for America to neutralize Iran. Not probably, it is good. Another poll, this is you, UMass Amherst. Do you support or oppose eliminating immigration and customs enforcement, ICE, eliminating it? Okay? Support 38, oppose or don't know, 63. Democrats, 70 percent want to eliminate ICE. They want no enforcement, not only on migrants, but criminal migrants, 70 percent of the party. Staggering, staggering. Second question, do you support or oppose increasing immigration enforcement at the U.S. Southern border? Support 50, neither support nor oppose, so they're apathetic, 27, oppose 22. All right, so most Americans support it, but not the Democrats, all right? Only 29% want increased immigration enforcement at the border, so they want open borders. That's what Biden did, and that's what they want. So they don't want any action against Iran, they want to open borders. That's the big advantage Republicans have, because once that seeps into the Americans, what kind of party is this? Is this going to help America if Democrats get elected in November? Okay, Barack Obama. So this is a strange, strange story. So the former president rises, not from obscurity, but he was on the sidelines for a lot of years. Okay, didn't criticize Biden, first term Trump, not much. But now he's back, Barack Obama is back, and last night, Tuesday night, he goes on the Colbert Program. Roll it.

"I'm looking for a new gig soon, and a lot of people tell me I should run for president."

"Well, you certainly have the look."

"Thank you very much."

"You have the hair."

"Well, for the record, I think it's a stupid idea. How dumb do you think it is for people to say that I should run for president?"

"Well, I- you know, the bar has changed."

"That is true, at times subterranean. I don't have to limbo so low."

"I'd put it this way, I think that you could perform significantly better than some folks that we've seen."

"All right."

"I have great confidence in that."

"Thank you very much."

"Is that an endorsement?"

"It was not."

Okay, it's a little back and forth, nothing that meaningful in it, but it's obvious to talk about President Trump and the bar lowered, and all that stuff. Now, yesterday we told you that we are not in the gutter snipe zone. We do not do that here. All right, there are millions of Americans who despise Barack Obama. They hate him. They blame him for everything. We criticize the former president based on facts, we do not hate him, and we are fair to him. A lot of people don't like that. They don't want fair. So I go on Newsmax yesterday, just hours after saying that to you, and here's what happened. Go.

"Okay, if I say so I understand he's making a lot of money with these speeches if it was creating all this issue with my marriage, I don't know if I would continue to do it. Maybe I just take a step back for a couple years, get back involved as we get closer to 2028. Do you think there's like an element to this where he's priming the public for the possibility of a Barack and Michelle break-up?".

"I'm not even going to address that question, Rob, I'm sorry, I have no idea, and I don't get into that kind of stuff."

"All right. Let me ask you about the Republicans. JD Vance, Marco Rubio, or somebody else in 2028, where are you personally right now?"

"Nowhere. I'm not a party apparatchik. I thought that Secretary of State Rubio did very well today in his debrief. He has conducted himself in a very visible way; that's a positive for America. So, he's got some momentum. As far as Vice President Vance, don't know him very well. Interviewed him a couple of times. I think that he is more of an ideologue than Rubio is, and so that would probably be the big difference between the two men."

So we walk the walk here when I tell you we don't do the gutter stuff, we don't do it, okay? I'm not talking about anybody's marriage. Why would I do that? I don't know anything about it. It's unfair. It's cheap. But you go on social media, oh my God. It's just awful. And we applaud you, our audience, for the No Spin News, for accepting that. That we're just gonna give you fact-based commentary we're not gonna get into trying to destroy and hurt people. Not gonna do it. How about something that Barack Obama and Donald Trump have in common? There isn't much, that's for sure. I know both men pretty well and not a lot of common ground there. Although they get along when they see each other. Know, they're cordial. You remember the funeral in DC where they were yucking it up. Okay, so one of the offshoots of being president is that you deal with everything, you deal with all kinds of stuff, and UFOs have made a comeback. Unidentified flying objects have made a comeback in this country. Why? I have no idea why, all right? So, there is a poll from YouGov. First question, how likely do you think it is that aliens have visited Earth in recent years? Definitely have, probably have 47. Definitely have not, probably have not 37, not sure 16. Okay, and then there's a NewsNation poll. Do you believe the U.S. Government is hiding information about the existence of UFOs? This is a social media dream, this question. Yes, the government's hiding information. No, 28 percent. Not sure, 28 percent? Both Presidents Trump and Obama have been asked about this. Roll it.

"I did have one very brief meeting on it, but people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly."

"Do you think you'd know if there were evidence of extraterrestrials?"

"Well, I think our great pilots would know. And some of them really see things that are a little bit different than in the past. So we're going to see. But we'll watch it. You'll be the first to know."

"Are aliens real?"

"They're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not being kept in...what is it?"

"Area 51."

"Area 51. There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hid it from the President of the United States.".

Okay. So, both presidents, I don't know why Obama said there is, based on what? If you were a professional interviewer, you would say, whoa, whoa whoa, okay? You just said they're real. What does that mean? Okay. So, we're not getting anything, let's put it that way, out of the two most recent presidents. Which brings us to a new book called Evidence of the Extraordinary: Discoveries from the Series, The Proof Is Out There. Alright, it's written by a guy I know pretty well, Miguel Sancho. He is a NewsNation producer now. He did the San Francisco thing for us. He was the producer on that project. Alright, he's worked for Inside Edition. I started Inside Edition. He's worked for CBS News, on and on and very senior guy. All right, so the book is out this week. And I was reading a book last night. I wanted a spooky environment to read this book. And I made sure that I had all the security so a yeti couldn't break into my garage. But I'm reading a chapter on UFOs, and this Mexican pilot Delgado, all right, he's flying a FedEx plane from northern Mexico into the USA, and he and his crew are escorted on their flight up in the air by a red spaceship or something. Tell me a little bit more about that.

"Well, Bill, thank you for having me. Thank you to your audience for listening in. And I encourage everybody to read my book or any book in the garage at night. I think that's a wonderful recipe for a great reading experience. I will say this. Yes, I mean, I went into this field as, you know, a hard news journalist with a background in investigative and consumer reporting. And it was somewhat serendipitous that I started working with this program. And the first, kind of, a-ha moment for me was this conversation I had with Captain Delagado. This was back in 2020. And so he had this video that he'd shot when he was on this flight, and this very peculiar orb appeared off the port side of his aircraft. I believe it was a 767, one of the FedEx cargo planes. And he claims it followed them, tracked them for about 20 minutes, and at times hit them with a kind of a lighthouse-like beam. And the craziest thing about it wasn't just the account and he shot some cell phone video of it which is good, not great, it's what you'd expect kind of a white dot against the black sky, but the most fascinating part of the story and the fascinating part the video is when he pans over to the console and you can see that the tcast system, the collision avoidance system, is not detecting any other aircraft in the area and subsequent investigation also confirmed that the radar hadn't detected any aircraft in the area. So, we have a number of sources, instruments that we consider usually normally reliable in modern aviation, confirming this account. And the kind of eureka moment for me or the, you know, epiphany for me was, okay, this stuff isn't just being reported by, you know, kooks in their basement with the tinfoil hats or out in the desert, you looking at the sky with night vision goggles but people we trust with multi-million dollar aircraft and people we trusted with our lives and people that we would normally consider extraordinarily responsible and honorable. And of course, Captain Delgado, who was kind enough to come on the show and tell this story, is just one of many people, some of them with extremely impressive backgrounds and high clearances in the U.S. Military, who've come forward and said not just that they've had a personal encounter, but they have a strong reason to believe that, yes, aliens exist. And further, that they've come here, that we've tracked them, that the US government has encountered them, and that there's an ongoing crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that continues to this day. And that's what people are hoping will be revealed when President Trump kind of dangles the promise of disclosure of whatever the federal government has and whatever documents they have on UFOs."

Well, he could use the diversion now, that's for sure. But I'm skeptical about this, as you know. So I don't really know what an orb is. What is an orb? Is that just some round thing that shows up? Is it red? What's an orb?

"Ah, an Orb indeed. So yes, the UFO community has a whole classification system of every kind of type and design of UFO, similar that you might, you know, have certain types of designs or automobiles. So, of course, you have the classic flying saucer that had its heyday in the 40s and 50s, and it's kind of gone out of vogue since then."

So they're not saucers anymore, they're orbs now.

"Yes, orbs are much more frequent, and orbs, like the name kind of implies, there's something kind of spherical, glowing orbs."

So they're up in the air, and they're around things, and they have lights on them, and the video that Delgado shot doesn't show you much. Now there are other crew members that could have shot video, too, on his flight. I haven't seen any video that would convince me of anything coming out of that plane. Yeah, it's some video, but nobody knows what it is. Certainly there's no alien looking out the window waving as Captain Delgado. So I think this might fall under the category of people believe what they want to believe. That you want to believe there's an alien force and they come down here for a snack or why, but I'm still way, way out there as far as being convinced is concerned. Something wrong with me? Don't answer that. Am I not doing my job?

"Well, the truth is, as you'd said earlier in the broadcast quite perspicaciously, the UFOs have come back. And the question is, why? Well, we know. We can answer that. There's two main developments that have sparked what I term in the book, the modern UFO renaissance. One is the emergence of these videos. And I don't just mean the Captain Delgado cell phone video, but these extraordinarily compelling military-grade videos with the telemetry and with the testimony of the pilots to back them up."

Then why wouldn't Obama and Trump cop to that? Why wouldn't they say, yeah, I mean, I saw this, it was one of our top pilots, and they brought it in, and now I'm convinced there's some orb chasing people around.

"Right, because there's still debate exactly what these videos are showing, right? The Pentagon, under pressure from what is now kind of this emerging UFO lobby, or this emerging UFO constituency, special interest group, is now working, or as established, I should say, an official investigative agency, it's called UARO, the Ultimate Anomaly Resolution Office, and they are here to investigate videos such as this, and many times they will try to at least come up with a prosaic explanation that what appears to be a UFO or an alien craft is, in fact, a sky lantern or an airplane going the other direction or a drone that happened to be shot or an artifact of the camera. But there are those that they cannot resolve. It's often the case that they say that's as a result of having insufficient data, which is a legitimate response, and they go further to say that they have never, to this day, come up with conclusive proof of alien technology or craft. And you're right, Bill, that there's certain skepticism that is, I think, required when you're approaching this subject, because it's very easy to say, as President Obama did, aliens exist. Where does that come from? That comes from basically a scientific principle or scientific equation under the Drake equation, not to bore you with all the geek stuff, but statistically trying to establish what the odds are that we are alone in the universe, and as you can imagine with the number of galaxies and planets..."

That pinhead we were interviewing him should have stopped him right there and said, wait a minute, you would have done it, and I would have done it, aliens are real, how do we know that?

"Aliens may exist somewhere at some time, but it's a much bigger question to say are aliens here now? Have they been, you know, able to travel here and visit us recently?"

Yeah, well, I don't believe it, but I could be wrong because I don't t know what's in the classified area. Now, I wrote a book called Killing the Witches, and the last part of the book, because witchery and sorcery and all these people who lost their lives in Salem were all killed because they were supposed to be associating with the devil. And then, to close it off, the book, I wanted to get a modern equivalent of that. And we went to the movie The Exorcist, one of the biggest hits of all time, in the supernatural area, and we found unbelievably crazy stuff that happened. A lot of the actors died, there was all kinds of explained stuff that wasn't really explained, that the director of the movie was an atheist and then he came out as a believer because he saw all this stuff. And I reported it as it went down because it was all on the record, because there's nobody who didn't put their name or attached to it. But do I believe that the devil was directly involved with the filming of The Exorcist? All I can say is this is really strange. Particularly the deaths of the cast. This is really...Because the odds were way, that all of these people would die or have injuries based upon their experience in the filming. And so that's all I could do. I could say it's pretty strange, and that's what I can do here. That I acknowledge that in your book, Evidence of the Extraordinary, there's extraordinary stuff. But do I believe it? No. Not yet. Last word.

"The point of the book is not that you need to believe everything that you're told or every wacky story, but I think the primary thesis is twofold. One, that anomalous events happen, and they happen often enough that we need to be more hospitable to what some might consider radical or wacky theories. If you think about every kind of scientific revolution that's changed the paradigms, from everything from, you know, the theory of relativity to germ theory of disease. Those all started out as highly heterodox ideas and theories that, in some cases, got their proponents, you know, ridiculed, in some cases, shunned."

But that's fine with me. You have stuff that's unexplained, you should try to explain it. Alright, Miguel, I wish you good luck with this book, and you got a whole bunch of stuff, it's not just about UFOs. You've got all bunch of other stuff that...go bump in the night, you got Bigfoot in there, and sea monsters, and all of that.

"And miracles.".

And miracles. So people will be, I think, enthralled.

"Well, it's very kind of you to have me, Bill. Thank you."

Smart Life. So we partner up with Global Post for our foreign news, and they cover stuff that we don't ordinarily cover, because Americans, number one, don't care much about foreign news unless it, like Iran, affects them directly. But Global Post is good. And they have a program where they give free subscriptions to 16,000 students. So number one, you should check out Global Post. GlobalPost.com and number two, it's not expensive if you want to help some kid out, and their survey says that 47% of students that get the foreign reporting from Global Post read it every day. That's half and you know how dopey kids are. So and this is a fact based it's not an opinion outfit, so there you go.

Ted Turner has died. 87 years old. Didn't know him very well, ran into him a couple of times. He died in Tallahassee of Lewy body dementia. Now, Mr. Turner made one of the biggest mistakes in broadcasting history. When the Fox News Channel came on the air in 1996, he was very dismissive of it. Said we're gonna squash it like a bug. Well, I was there, and we all said, whoa, look at Ted disrespecting us. Now we'll see who's squashing whom, and history came out in our favor. Now, Turner was a titan, and I still watch TCM, the movie channel that he had, because if you really wanna see good movies, you gotta go back. And he bought up a lot of land to conserve it, just as Teddy Roosevelt suggested. So he really led a robust life, as Teddy would also say, to Turner, dead at 87.

This Day in History, fascinating story. So 69 years ago, John F. Kennedy, as a senator, wins a Pulitzer Prize for writing a book called Profiles in Courage. I have a signed copy of that book, and it was a huge smash, I mean huge, sold millions. And he gets a Pulitzer, and it's about eight senators who did extraordinary things. And it elevates him in the world of politics because everybody's talking about it. But it is a problem: Kennedy didn't write it. So, his friend, Ted Sorensen, who was subsequently his speechwriter, the evidence is that Sorensen wrote the book. So a muckraking journalist named Drew Pearson goes on to Mike Wallace's program on ABC in 1957 and says Sorensen wrote the Book. Joseph Kennedy, JFK's father, immediately says we're going to sue ABC. Hello? That's how you think Jimmy Kimmel...you can go up against Joseph Kennedy and Wallace and ABC going, whoa, whoa, whoa, I know, we'll retract it. But the initial reporting on it was Profiles of Courage, written by Ted Sorensen. It's not unusual. Celebrity books, political books in particular, are written by somebody else. You do not have to worry about that with my books, because I slave over those books. We have great researchers. Okay, Josh Hammer and Martin Degard, you know them, but no ghostwriters. Anyway, that happened, good story and relevant to today. We will delve into the world of mail and the final thought in a moment.

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So, YouTube blowing up because we did an analysis of Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow, said some things, one of which was absolutely true, the other a little quibble with. And so I analyzed that. I don't think Erika Kirk has been treated respectfully. We will treat her respectfully here. That is on our YouTube channel, youtube.com/BillOReilly. It is absolutely free of charge, and I think you will enjoy it. Let's go to the mail.

Ed Alberque, St. Petersburg, Florida. "Hey Bill, you made a great point. Trump would gain credibility if he called in the CEOs of oil companies and lowered the boom on their gouging. Can I keep saying we're the biggest producer in the world and then expect folks to accept what's going on?" I suggested that he have a summit with these, not only oil company executives, but insurance companies because something's got to give here, that's for sure.

So we got Jane Murphy in Cambridge, Massachusetts. "I agree and support President Trump's decision with Iran. I believe it needed to be done for as long as it takes." Okay, so you're in about...compilation of all the polls, 35 to 40 percent, Jane. Believe the way you do.

Jim Sutherland, North Olmsted, Ohio. "I was told that a person in my orbit believes that the White House dinner affair and shooting was staged." Okay, it wasn't. It was a real thing. So, the people who are in your orbit gym are misleading you.

Steve Nall in Panama City, Florida. "Please explain why 39 states have statutes against price gouging after a natural disaster, hurricanes, et cetera, but it's okay for the oil company to gouge prices when they're taking advantage, too." What you're referring to is a state law. States have laws against price gouging. No federal law. And that's what happened.

Concierge Member Norman, we hope you check out the Concierge Program on BillOReilly.com, it will enhance your life. Norman. "The price of gas we have to pay is complicated, and it's true the American oil companies have plenty of oil. If they could sell it directly to we, consumers, without the middlemen like OPEC, it would be cheaper." OPEC has nothing to do with it. OPEC's in the Middle East, it ships to China. All these excuses that you hear are just nonsense. They're there to obscure what's really going on.

Daphne Lee, Plano, Texas." Really enjoyed your recent We'll Do It Live with Sid Rosenberg. Can't help but wonder why we don't see any footage from inside Iran." Because if took footage from inside Iran, Daphne, they would shoot you in the head, which is why you don't see it. Okay, but you can see our caps, the best in the country, 250 USA, our birthday caps, coming up two months. Celebrate. No better cap. Get a few of them, give them out to pro-American people. Word of the Day: do not be a sycophant, S-Y-C-O-P-H-A-N-T, sycophant, good word. Back with the final thought in a moment.

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Okay, We'll Do It Live. Tomorrow, we drop the new one. Chazz Palminteri, known him for a long time. And he plays gangsters and you Soprano fans and whatever, but a typecast of Italians is that right? Is that right? Is that the right thing to do? It's one of the questions I'm gonna ask Chazz so we will drop that...Premium members get it early, noon. And everybody else gets it around four, five, tomorrow, six, whatever it may be. There we go. Thank you very much for watching and listening to the No Spin News. We'll have a Sunday column for you and a whole bunch of stuff. If anything breaks on Iran, that will come at you very quickly. See you soon.

O'Reilly Talks Obama, Iran, and Fox News Alumni in the Trump Administration

2026-05-06T18:49:00Z

Bill joins Rob Finnerty to talk about former President Obama's latest Trump criticism, Iran, and President Trump's Fox News administration.

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Marco Rubio-Pope Meeting

2026-05-06T07:57:00Z

Secretary of State Marco Rubio put up a good performance with the press on Tuesday. He was clear and authoritative about the Iran conflict, believing the terror state’s economy is in big trouble.

Hope he’s right.

On Thursday, Rubio has an official meeting with Pope Leo, who has emerged as a problem for the Trump administration.

Because the Pope is a spiritual missionary, he is not going to explain geopolitics to anyone. That frustrates President Trump, who believes the Pontiff does not understand world conflict. Mr. Trump fervently thinks that he is saving lives by neutralizing Iran. Apparently, the Pope does not share that vision.

So it might be up to Secretary Rubio to bring the men together. Rubio is Catholic and respects the church. Good start. I believe there is room for detente here.

Many don’t care, but America needs supporters right now. Pope Leo’s softening on the danger of Iran would help this country.

Let’s pray that Marco can pull it off.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

Why the U.S. Can't Reach a Deal With Iran

2026-05-06T07:31:00Z

Dr. James Robbins, Dean of the Institute of World Politics, breaks down how there’s no incentive for Iran to make a deal, and whether he was surprised the Trump administration thought destroying the country would bring them to reach an agreement.

Iran Chaos Continues

2026-05-06T07:29:00Z

Bill explains how the U.S. dominates militarily but not economically and how the world doesn’t care what’s happening inside Iran.

Mawkish

2026-05-06T00:21:00Z

[mawkish] excessively, weakly, or falsely sentimental to the point of being nauseating or sickening.

Bill O'Reilly & Mark Simone on Barack Obama and the Far Left

2026-05-05T22:57:00Z

Bill joins Mark Simone and theorizes as to why Barack Obama is re-inserting himself into party politics. Bill contends that the former president is trying to stop the Democrats from following their radical base off an electoral cliff.

Iran Chaos Continues: Dr. James Robbins on Why the U.S. Can't Reach a Deal, the Media Ignores Illegal Migrant Crime & Outrageous Claims Over WHCD Shooter's Treatment

2026-05-05T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, May 5, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Bill explains how the U.S. dominates militarily but not economically and how the world doesn’t care what’s happening inside Iran.
Dr. James Robbins, Dean of the Institute of World Politics, breaks down how there’s no incentive for Iran to make a deal, and whether he was surprised the Trump administration thought destroying the country would bring them to reach an agreement.
Is there room for Republican candidates to veer away from Trump?
Bill looks at a recent news report, arguing that some media are ignoring ICE deportations of dangerous illegal migrants.
Why US Magistrate Judge Zia M. Faruqui is saying the alleged WHCD shooter is being treated worse than gang members and Jan. 6 rioters.
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Iran Chaos Continues: Dr. James Robbins on Why the U.S. Can't Reach a Deal, the Media Ignores Illegal Migrant Crime & Outrageous Claims Over WHCD Shooter's Treatment

2026-05-05T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, May 5, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Bill explains how the U.S. dominates militarily but not economically and how the world doesn’t care what’s happening inside Iran.
Dr. James Robbins, Dean of the Institute of World Politics, breaks down how there’s no incentive for Iran to make a deal, and whether he was surprised the Trump administration thought destroying the country would bring them to reach an agreement.
Is there room for Republican candidates to veer away from Trump?
Bill looks at a recent news report, arguing that some media are ignoring ICE deportations of dangerous illegal migrants.
Why US Magistrate Judge Zia M. Faruqui is saying the alleged WHCD shooter is being treated worse than gang members and Jan. 6 rioters.
Final Thought: Gift a BillOReilly.com membership this Mother’s and Father’s Day!

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Dr. Judy Shelton Breaks Down Rising U.S. Gas Prices

2026-05-05T16:21:00Z

Dr. Judy Shelton, former economic advisor to President Trump and senior fellow at the Independent Institute, weighs in on Trump’s handling of Iran and why gas prices are rising even though the U.S. has oil within its own boundaries.

Why is Marco Rubio Visiting the Pope?

2026-05-05T16:19:00Z

What we know about Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s upcoming visit to the Vatican for a private meeting with Pope Leo.

O'Reilly & Vittert on Iran, Gas, and Trump's Dilemma

2026-05-05T16:13:00Z

Bill joins Leland Vittert to discuss the situation in Iran and the price American's are paying at home.

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O'Reilly on Papal Politics and Illegal Crime with 'Cats & Cosby'

2026-05-05T15:16:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Rita Cosby and John Catsimatidis to analyze the ongoing dispute between President Trump and Pope Leo over migrants. He also reports on still another savage horror story involving an illegal immigrant in New York state.

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Commentator Culture

2026-05-05T07:05:00Z

President Obama says he’s not interested in attacking President Trump or Republicans in general because then he would become part of the “commentator culture.”

As the guy who pretty much invented that culture on television (Rush Limbaugh did it on radio), my advice to the former president is far out and right on.

First off, Mr. Obama doesn’t need the grief. He’s making millions giving speeches that do involve his opinion. As Hall and Oates once sang: “Why you want more?”

Secondly, the commentator thing has been roughed up by social media zealots hungry for money and attention. This is a rather nasty club these days. I wonder what the late Charles Krauthammer would be thinking. His commentary was sterling. I hope you remember.

Barack Obama has unlimited access to the establishment media and is able to make any points he wants. He doesn’t have to be a snollygoster searching for validation.

Political analysis is not what it used to be, and while astute commentary is needed, it is being overwhelmed by gutter sniping and conspiracy stuff.

Who needs that? Really.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

Truculent

2026-05-05T00:54:00Z

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Why is Marco Rubio Visiting the Pope?, Dr. Judy Shelton Breaks Down Rising U.S. Gas Prices, James Comey Latest & Gavin Newsom vs. Fox News Lawsuit

2026-05-04T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Monday, May 4th, 2026. Stand up for your country. Today's Message of the Day on BillOReilly.com is kind of important. I write about losing sight of what is important in your life. So it goes right to you and how you're living. Now, many of us are losing sight of what's important. And we are descending into a world of fantasy and apathy. That's beyond any doubt. And it's the dopey devices, of course, cyberspace, but also selfishness, too. So I hope you read the message because a lot of what's happening today in America is based upon the American people not really understanding, all right? Because a lot of them don't wanna understand what's happening around them.

Talking Points Memo is about Secretary of State Rubio going to Rome on Thursday to meet with Pope Leo and the president or prime minister of Italy, Meloni, who used to be an ally and is no longer. So it's an important meeting. So Rubio is a good choice. He's a Roman Catholic. He's not a confrontational man. I mean, I know him, but his status in my eyes has risen in the last year or so. He's done a very good job as Secretary of State. So on Thursday, he's going to the Vatican. And, you know, this is not usual. He's going to visit Pope Leo at the Apostolic Palace, 11:30 a.m. The press will be all over it. Then on Friday he's going to meet with the Pope's cabinet. Yes, the Pope has a cabinet because the Vatican is a country. And then on Friday, he's got the prime minister in Rome, and they're going under the banner of being conciliatory, which is another good thing. We need the bases, air bases in Italy. We need somebody to be our friends in Europe, and this is the best hope.

Both Pope Leo and President Trump don't understand each other. They may not want to understand each other. I don't know Pope Leo, I do know Donald Trump. They talk past each other, it's almost like they're two different languages. And this all stems, the Iranian thing isn't really what's on the table, it is immigration. That's what it goes back to. And the Pope, I think, made a mistake getting into the Iranian conflict when he wouldn't follow up with answers to specific questions like, is the Vatican okay with the mullahs having a nuclear weapon? That's a yes or no question. And Pope Leo didn't want to answer it because he doesn't want bad relationships between Christians and Islamists. He doesn't want, he doesn't want that. So he's not going to answer those kinds of questions. Donald Trump is convinced that Pope Francis, Leo's predecessor, and Pope Leo are liberation theologians. What does that mean? Both of them were missionaries in South America, very poor. Both of them saw people get destroyed by corrupt, I don't know what you're going to call these dictators down there, but they didn't give a hoot about their people. And they administered to those poor people, both Francis and Leo did the same thing. And they became very liberal in trying to help poor migrants. Then you have politics come into it because the United States says we have to stop millions of people from coming in here unattended, which Trump has succeeded in doing. But the popes themselves didn't quite get the why of that. Here's what the president said.

"So we have the lowest murder rate in 125 years. Since 1900, the lowest murder rate, so we believe strongly in law and order. And he seemed to have a problem with that, so there's nothing to apologize for. He's wrong."

It's not that Pope Leo has a problem with law and order. He doesn't see it as the top priority. Okay, now there you go, we could be wrong because certainly, the front page in New York Post today, there's another guy, comes in, stabs to long island women at death, goes on and on and on, when you let millions of people into a country, any country. There's a study going on now in Northern Europe where the immigrants commit three times as many violent crimes as the indigenous population. That's what you're going to get. These are unattended people. These are people who were dumped out of prison, specifically with marching orders to come here by Maduro and by Mexico, whoever. But the Pope's job is to administer to the poor, not separate them out. Bad, good, all right? Therefore, the president who sees unfettered immigration as bad because of the violence attached to it, and this is the debate I have with Geraldo, who still to this day refuses to acknowledge the danger of millions of people pouring in here. We don't know who they are or what they've done in their past. He won't do it. All right? And neither will Pope Leo. So, we have to attend to the poor. Period, period, period. Nothing more than that. And it drives some people crazy because they say you can't be advocating a policy that brings danger to innocent people. And that's what unfettered immigration does. Flat out does it.

Okay, so you got two guys, they're talking, can Rubio broker this? I don't know. Okay, I could, by having them both keep quiet. Okay. The pope doesn't have to be persuaded and the president doesn't have to be persuaded. They could stay in their own zones. All right, just don't interfere if something positive is happening, and certainly closing down the poorest border was a positive for this country. And if you don't think so, then you're not, you know, going back to my Message of the Day, you don't live in reality. You don't. Okay, in addition, the Trump administration has got to start getting some allies on it, on Iran. I don't expect Italy to magically come over to our side, but they'll make some progress there. The public is not going to get involved with that. But we do need more allies, and it's just crazy we don't have them, because it's certainly not a good thing for a terror state to have a nuclear weapon. I don't care where you are or what you're doing. Now I know you're paying more for gas, I know. Everybody knows this is painful, but sometimes you've got to see the big picture. But Americans, a lot of them don't want the big picture. They don't wanna see it. They won't acknowledge it. And that's where we are. And that's the memo.

There's a polling on inflation. This is the Washington Post. It's a dopey poll. 2,560 US adults. Those are people who don't necessarily participate in elections or pay attention to anything. You want registered voters or likely voters in your poll. Washington Post knows that. But it's easier to get the result they want by just throwing it out into adults' question number one. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump's handling his job? Approve 37, Disapprove 62. All right, we've seen that before. Do you approve or disapprove the way Donald Trump is handling the economy? Approve 34, disapprove 65. That's higher prices. Do you approve it is proved the way. Donald Trump's handling of the situation with Iran? Approve 33, low number, disapprove 66%.

Now, the MAGA pundits, the conservative men and women who deliver news analysis every day, they're gonna try to persuade you that the Trump policies are vitally necessary for the nation. The problem with that is they speak to the choir. They speak to a very small segment of the American population. So while their message is accepted by their audience, this is not a wide persuasion. President Trump would have to do that himself. And he's going to have to do it because the midterms coming on up. May, November, goes fast. Latest in Iran today, U.S. Navy took out six small Iranian boats that were designed to stop shipping. So they're at the bottom of the ocean. You know, it's basically the president's gonna have to decide to step it up. I don't think he can go another month or so with the way we are now. Particularly because those gas prices are hitting about 450 a gallon. I mean, that's a killer. Joining us now from Washington is Dr. Judy Shelton, the former economic advisor to Donald Trump in his first term. She's a senior fellow at the Independent Institute. So, putting politics aside and just getting into the effectiveness of the Iranian War. You'd have to say it's undefined right now, doctor, or would I be wrong?

"No, it's somewhat undefined. In some aspects, you could claim a certain amount of victory, but we see things heating up today, and our markets are responding to that. The price of oil is responding to that, so nothing has been decided in the end."

"And that is angering a lot of non-ideological voters, people who aren't committed to the MAGA or not committed to the liberal progressive side, because they walk out every day, gotta pay more money for the essentials of life. And so they're gonna take it out on the administration. Or is there a way they wouldn't take it out on the administration?

"Well, part of it, as you brought up, is the way those polls are worded. If you ask people if they think it would be a good thing to take away the power from Iran to threaten us with nuclear weapons, they would be very much in favor of that. That's popular in a broad way. But it's true. People don't like to see the price of gasoline go up, and they do respond to that. I probably am in that group of MAGA supporters who think that this is all going to work out. I applaud the president for showing leadership. No one said it would be easy, which is why other presidents haven't attempted to confront Iran. I think we're well situated as far as being oil producers ourselves, largely thanks to things that were done under the Trump administration. And I think the price of oil will come down once it's resolved, and meanwhile, companies are doing well, consumer demand is good, people are getting refunds from their taxes. So, there's all kinds of indications that we'll be doing well once we get through it. But some people are less inclined to get through it, and there's a lot of murmuring going on now."

Okay, but you say that it was not in the beginning defined that it would be this difficult. President Trump made some statements that said, hey, we're going to wax them pretty hard and there's not going to be a long situation. So he raised the expectations of victory in Iran, and now it's coming back to haunt him. Or am I wrong?

"Well, expectations were high, no doubt, because it looked so easy in Venezuela. Not only, not only need and minimal loss of life, but the people of Venezuela were grateful. They were saying thank you for getting rid of the guy. And now oil revenues are going to start to flow to those citizens. It helps us, and it helps Venezuela. So it wasn't so easy in Iran. We're dealing with a much more entrenched power, I think, more ideologically driven, maybe somewhat irrational, as far as when we try to put together military strategy, they have these little mosquito boats, as you say, where we take them out, but they're also attacking, for example, what used to be their own allies in the region, the United Arab Emirates. They're taking it out on their allies, and maybe that's potential that we weren't expecting. So now we're going to have to help the allies and all of that is dragging us in and making the whole thing take a lot longer, and the more potential for action by our Navy, the more of potential for expenses if we're trying to somehow ensure the safe passage of cargo ships to spread more food between all of those risks, treasure... Life itself, we're paying a higher price than I think people had been..."

Yeah, and I think the president also, I don't think he was misled, it's just the way war is, the fog of war. Final question, you were an economic advisor to Donald Trump. I get hundreds of letters saying, look, America is self-sufficient in energy, oil, got plenty of it here. Why are gasoline prices going up a buck and a half at the pump? If we have all this oil here in the boundaries of our country, why are they going up so much? How do you answer that?

"Well, it is a global market. Yes, we're the largest supplier, but the price is pretty much governed by global demand. And so even our biggest producers are in competition with the other major producers in the world. And they even respond when the price goes up, then they tend to produce more. It's not like we're like OPEC, but our own producers do respond to price signals that are generated by demand."

Yeah, we don't have any oil shortages here, but we have higher prices, and we shouldn't have higher prices if we have enough oil to service our population, whereas places like China don't. They have to import all their oil. We don't import any of our oil. So people are starting to say, you know, the American oil company is taking advantage of this situation. And I'm kind of in that group. Last word.

"Well, I guess we could be the way the old Soviet Union was and say we're totally self-sufficient and we don't want to trade with the rest of the world and we just kind of close up shop. And then in economics, you're called an autarkic country. So you don't need to trade. But the US has never been that way. We've been hurt by globalization in many respects, but we're still pretty much...We have an attitude of it's an open global market, and I think when it comes to energy, those forces are still going to dominate. I don't think we could ask our producers to only produce for the United States."

All right, doctor. Thanks very much. We appreciate it and hope we can talk again soon. Thank you. Comey. So I was going to do a big story on Comey today, but now I don't know what the story is. I don't know what it is. And I'll show I'll play a soundbite in a moment that'll illuminate my confusion. Almost everybody in the corporate media are going, oh, he's a Lawfare victim, Comey's this, Comey's that. Comey is a rat, and I mean that. In the mob, if you inform on somebody or you betray the family, you're a rat. And that's what Comey did. He leaked out bad stuff about Trump through a friend who worked at Columbia University to the New York Times. That's been established. Now, it that a crime? I don't believe it is, and if it is, the Justice Department has not used that. What they're saying is that Comey threatened President Trump's life. I haven't seen it. But, apparently, there are other things in play. So the Assistant Attorney General, Todd Blanche, who is running a show at the J Department now. He goes on NBC, and here's what happened.

"The Justice Department has already indicted former FBI Director James Comey, as you know, and New York Attorney General Letitia James and a federal judge dismissed both of those cases. Why should people have confidence that this case will actually move forward and is rooted in fact?"

"Well, let's be accurate, okay? The judge dismissed those cases not based on a factual finding that President Trump did something wrong or that there was something wrong with the underlying facts leading to that indictment. The federal judge dismissed that case because he found that the U.S. Attorney was not properly appointed. There was no final finding on the facts or anything like that."

So, you see what she did, Welker? Do you see she did? She knows that most of her audience, most of America, doesn't remember the reason that the Comey case was thrown out. And that was the person prosecuting Comey at the federal level was not properly given the job. Welker had to know that, but sets it up like there was something wrong with the case. This is why I'm on the media all the time. Because that's deception. She is trying to deceive you, or she's too dumb to know what happened. One of the two. Neither are good options. Now, Blanche says, we got new stuff. We got other stuff. And that's why the grand jury indicted him. Remember, Comey is not in the grand jury room. And his attorneys do not have the option of disputing anything that Blanche brings. That's why it's so easy to indict people in America. Not easy to convict, but easy to indict. Now, I don't know what Blanche has got. That's why I can't cover the story. I'll be on with Leland Vittert tonight on News Nation. I'm sure this will come up. I'm gonna go, I don't know what he's got. How can I analyze when I don't know? Now, if I were Blanche, I'd kind of say, look, we got this. We got the seashells, but we also have this. That's why they haven't done it.

Another lawsuit, Gavin Newsom against Fox News. Newsom is suing for $787 million in the state of Delaware, because that's where The Fox Corporation is based. Okay. This is another dopey thing. On June 6th, last year, 2025, Trump and Newsom had a telephone call, 16-minute call. And they were talking about the situation in California, where ICE was running down, people shouldn't be here. So a six-minute, 16 minute call. All those calls are taped, they're all logged. So Trump said, I had a call with Newsom, I think yesterday, actually the call was four days before that. So Trump had the timeline off, but he's the president. I mean, you know, come on. Is that a big deal? They had the call. Was it four days or one day? Who cares? Well, Jesse Watters went on the air and said, well, Newsom lied about the call. Maybe he did. Maybe Newsom did lie about the call. I don't know why four days to one day makes a difference, but maybe he wanted to deceive in some way. Anyway, that's the basis of the suit. So Newsom says, oh no, they knew, Watters and Fox, that I had the call, all right? And then they cut out a portion of the president's explanation that was a day or so ago, leading the audience to think that I lied about the call. That's it. That's the whole case. And the judge said, it can go forward. This is so loopy, I can't even believe it. So you're supposed to pay $787 million because of a false timeline that you may not even remember? Unlike the election thing, the machines, Fox's not gonna lose this.

Rudy Giuliani in the hospital, pneumonia, in Palm Beach, Florida, 81 years old. I feel bad for Giuliani. He did an unbelievable job as mayor of New York City, and after 9-11, he was magnificent as a public servant. And then he got involved with the election of 2020, where Giuliani overstated stuff. And because he did overstate, by saying there was widespread voter fraud, he lost his license. He was disbarred in New York. And he had to go into Georgia and other places to defend himself and it wrecked him. It wrecked him. And I stood by watching all this. The mayor should have been more careful with what he was saying because he couldn't back it up. And to this day, there are a lot of people who believe that the election of 2020 was false, including President Trump. And I've said this in the very beginning, you have a perfect right to believe that. Perfect right. But there's no backup for it. Legal backup. There are backups in Arizona, in Fulton County, Georgia, in Pennsylvania. They're isolated backups, and you can point to them. But massive voter fraud, that would mean the election would come out differently. That evidence has not been put forth. So Giuliani got caught up in that, as you know, and it really wrecked him. Last time I saw him, about a year ago, not in good shape. So he's in a hospital with pneumonia right now.

This is a new poll. Associated Press, very, very fraudulent poll. Again, 1,092 U.S. Adults, the same thing. All right, first question. How often do you find yourself actively trying to avoid news stories about President Trump? Often, sometimes 62, never really 36. I understand that. People are tired of it. They're tired of it. Particularly if you don't follow politics. How often do you find yourself actively trying to avoid news in general? Often, sometimes 54, never, rarely 44. About right. Even though it's a stupid poll, I think it's about right. Final question. How important is it to you that the sources you use to get news information align with your values or views? Not at all important, 19. Somewhat important 46, extremely important 33, that's 79 percent of Americans want to hear in some capacity what they already believe. That's a big weakness in this country. People believe what they want to believe. And they seek out news commentary that bolsters their belief system. And that is the main reason why we are the most successful independent news agency in the country, because we don't do that. There are people, okay, who just let me have it, which is what we do. But there are more people, more Americans, that say, I won't to listen to O'Reilly because he doesn't tell me what I want to hear. And they're on both sides, but primarily on the left. All right, nah, I don't like him. I don't like him, he doesn't, you know, I believe something, and he doesn't believe it. Not that I don't believe it, I'm giving you facts.

Smart life, road rage. So I had a road rage myself over the weekend. This guy was unbelievable. I'm driving back from the city, and I'm on the Whitestone Expressway, if any of you know New York. And this guy comes up behind me, tailgating, which is not unusual. And then he swings to the right and just almost cuts me off, hitting me, to try to get around me when he couldn't get around because there was so much traffic. I'll tell you what, there were some bad words spewed in my car. But I didn't get out of control because that would hurt me and everybody else on the road. But I was really teed off. I tried to get the guy's license plate, but that doesn't matter. New York authorities are not going to do anything unless they see it themselves. So, here are the states with the most road rage in the nation. This will surprise you. Nebraska, whoa. Mississippi, Arkansas, Texas, Washington, South Carolina, Tennessee, Indiana, Virginia, Illinois, all mostly rural states. Not driven by you know, Texas got some big cities, of course, but those are the roads rage states. Here are the lease road rage. New Mexico, Nevada, Louisiana, Kentucky, Maine, New Jersey, New York. Now, come on. New Jersey and New York? this is a king of road rage. Missouri, Pennsylvania, Minnesota. This study is from Lemon Law Experts. This is a law firm in California that, if you have trouble with your car, remember this, Lemon Law. Get a pen, but they handle this. You got a bad car, go to Lemon Law. They know what to do. But the survey is a little, I don't know. New Jersey and New York, you get crazy.

Bernie Goldberg wrote a column on bernardgoldberg.com, it's impressive, you should check it out. So he's explaining why unstable people, and you know them, we all know them, alright, get provoked by the Jimmy Kimmels of the world, by the rage of the world. So if you're unstable and you don't have control over yourself, much easier to provoke you into violence. You see that in domestic violence all the time. And then you add to the fact that it's Donald Trump and that the person getting provoked, who's in a political rage, thinks they're virtuous, that they're doing a good thing. So it's a good column by Goldberg, BernardGoldberg.com has it.

This Day in History, May 4th, 1932, the most famous gangster of all time, enters a federal penitentiary, Al Capone, bootlegger, Brooklyn-born, murderer, killer, you name it. This guy was bad. So the feds get him, Eliot Ness, the Untouchables, on failure to pay income tax. He goes in, and he's sentenced to 11 years in prison. He gets sent to Georgia. Now, most people believe that Al Capone was in Alcatraz, which he was. And I'll explain why in a moment. But 94 years ago, they booted him into the Atlanta Federal Prison. And they give him a physical exam. He had syphilis and gonorrhea all over the place, advanced. And he wasn't coming back from it. So his physical malady, his physical appearance, and state declined rapidly. They sent him to Alcatraz after that. I'm not sure why. It's never been reported why. But they put him in a hospital section at Alcatraz because he was going downhill physically so fast. And then he gets out, completes his term. In 1939, he goes to Florida, Palm Beach. He goes down there, and he just wastes away, which is fitting, it's karma, and he dies January 21st, 1947. Actually, he had a stroke, then he had cardiac arrest, then on 25th, he died at age 48. Al Capone. You know, I don't like Robert De Niro, but his portrayal of Capone in The Untouchables movie is great. Okay. We got some mail. People are confused, angry, and worried, and all that. We have it, and we'll read it to you, and then we have a final thought, and we'll be back in a moment.

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Okay, YouTube channel, skyrocketing for us, youtube.com/BillOReilly, and we're writing and broadcasting about the economics of the Walt Disney Company, which are dismal. So people say they get away with, they're not getting away with anything. The Disney Company is losing, I'd say hundreds of millions of dollars, because of The View and Kimmel and all that. Kind of like Al Capone.

Okay, mail. Edward, Concierge Member. Edward, gets direct access to me and my crew. Edward has a problem, we will try to help him. Ed says, "I support the president, but he should have made case to the public months in advance and gained support before attacking Iran. He is way out on a limb now. The longer this goes on, the more capital and power he sheds." Can't argue with that. We've got to wrap it.

Bob Kish, Atlanta Beach, Florida. "Why doesn't anyone see that Iran has been foot-dragging, hoping that Congress will use the 60-day War Powers Act to shut down the war. Am I the only one who sees this?" No, but I'm not sure whether the War Powers Act overrides the worldwide economy. I think the mullahs are more interested in destroying the worldwide economy. The War Powers Act, which could go either way, is going to go into the federal courts.

Steve Kerrigan, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. "In your message of the day, O'Reilly, you note the latest Harvard-Harris poll regarding the midterm elections. Given the current sentiment regarding the economy and the Iran war, wouldn't that be an outlier?" No, because it's a good poll, historically. Harvard-Harris, pretty good. That's Mark Penn. They're pretty, you know, I gotta go by history. I don't care what their political point of view is, they perform well.

Ralph, Concierge Member. "Polls are split 50-50, it shows half the country doesn't know what's going on." I would agree that half the country doesn't know what's going on, but I don't think it's all ideology. People believe what they want to believe.

Mark, Concierge Member. "Bill, you're right on. Comey always was a poultron." I'll agree with that. I put it in writing. "He deserves all the grief that will come his way." I don't feel sorry for James. I'm not.

Dr. Gerald Chellikoff, Brookline, Massachusetts. "Bill, I watch you every night. Both my well-educated non-fanatical sisters, as well as every Democrat I know in Boston, believe that all Trump assassination attempts were staged. These people are not going to change their point of view. Do you have friends like that?" No. And the reason I don't, doctor, is because you gotta be delusional to think that. I was there, okay, I mean, no conspiracy, the guy was a loon, and he ran down the stairs and did what he did. If I come across, even if they're good people and they're nice and everything, if they're delusional, but I know you got to deal with yours, so I would do it with humor.

Tony Micheletto, Moorcroft, Wyoming. "Love the hat." This is the 250 hats. We'll get into them in a moment. "Isn't it strange that a few years ago, Roseanne Barr was fired from ABC for remarks she made about someone in Obama's circle, but Kimmel's allowed to stay." There's more to it, though. The Roseanne Bar thing was racist. There's a big tinge of racism in that. So it was Valerie Jarrett you're referring to, and you can't do that.

Paul Schneider, Cincinnati. "I've begun reading Killing Kennedy, written in 2012." Boy, it doesn't seem like that far away. "Has there been any evidence uncovered since then that would be important to know?" No. What we have in Killing Kennedy stands.

Sid Abert, Slidell, Louisiana. "Enjoyed the interview with Sid Rosenberg. His battle with addiction and victory in managing the issues was inspiring, having lost my son a few months ago to an overdose. Made his story even more impressive." Sid, I'm really sorry. I really am. Some make it, some don't. Can't imagine.

Michael Feigenbaum, Brooklyn, New York. "Longtime fan of yours, Bill, you're one of the all-time greats," thank you. "Your interview with Sid Rosenberg has got to be one of the most moving and inspiring of all time." Okay, so you can see that on We'll Do It Live. We have so much stuff here to tell you about. I've expanded the show a minute just to tell you about all we have. We have the YouTube channel, and then we'll do it live. So long form. Now, if you haven't seen it, Sid Rosenberg, you might want to watch that. Just go to BillOReilly.com, and we have them, and you just go boom, boom, boom. We'll make it very easy.

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Okay, final thought, I'll be on News Nation tonight with Leland Vittert, and I want to explain again that we have so much happening here. Just check in with BillOReilly.com. It's the easiest way to go about all this stuff, because we just have like a menu of it. Right? And you just, whatever you want to see or hear, you just boom, and it goes right over. You don't have to go through all these dances to get to this and then that. You know, there's enough people who can't even get to BillOReilly.com. They're older, mostly elderly people. They don't know what it is. They can't get on. How come you're not on Fox anymore? Well, we have our own operation. They look at you like, oh, what? Nothing I can do but make it as easy as I can. All right, but watch the Rosenberg interview and check me out on News Nation tonight. Thank you for watching the No Spin News this evening. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you again tomorrow.

Why is Marco Rubio Visiting the Pope?, Dr. Judy Shelton Breaks Down Rising U.S. Gas Prices, James Comey Latest & Gavin Newsom vs. Fox News Lawsuit

2026-05-04T22:00:00Z

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Talking Points Memo: What we know about Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s upcoming visit to the Vatican for a private meeting with Pope Leo.
Bill looks at the latest polling on Americans’ approval ratings of Trump’s handling of his job and the economy.
Dr. Judy Shelton, former economic advisor to President Trump and senior fellow at the Independent Institute, weighs in on Trump’s handling of Iran and why gas prices are rising even though the U.S. has oil within its own boundaries.
Bill examines NBC’s Kristen Welker grilling Trump’s Attorney General Todd Blanche over the Comey indictment.
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What's Important

2026-05-04T07:12:00Z

One of the things we are losing in America is a sense of what’s really important. Outside of family and good friends, it might be the device in your hands. How many could stand to lose access to cyberspace?

Developing a sense of reality and discipline is very important in life; pursuing truth, maximizing potential. Those things are on the run.

Here’s an excellent example. It is extremely important that the United States defeat the terror state of Iran. If that happens, the world will be a far safer place. So every decent person on the planet should be rooting for America to prevail as quickly as possible.

Of course, that is not happening.

Even some Americans are failing to support their own team. They harp on “what the mission is” or the past bombing of Iran’s nuclear facilities. Why are they doing that? What good is accomplished in the Monday morning quarterback room? Lambasting the President is not a smart wartime strategy.

After we neutralize the Mullahs, is the appropriate time to assess the competency of the campaign, correct? Not during the conflict.

As Kenny Rogers once sang: “There’ll be time enough for counting when the dealings done.”

Jimmy and Me

2026-05-03T07:00:00Z

On November 15, 2005, I received a “Resolution” from the city of San Francisco demanding my employer, Fox News, fire me forthwith.

The letter was signed by then-Mayor Gavin Newsom.

The controversy surrounded Propositions H and I, which banned handguns in the city limits and discouraged military recruitment in San Francisco schools.

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I knew the gun thing was unconstitutional. However, the recruitment deal in the middle of the war on terror was an outrage. So I vented on my program.

“If al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we’re not going to do anything about it. We’re going to say every other place in America is off limits except San Francisco. You want to blow up Coit Tower, go ahead.”

Now, even the dimmest mind could figure out that I was not encouraging death and destruction but, rather, making a rhetorical point. Anyone who supported those loopy propositions is a moron. Maybe we call my commentary “satire.” Or an immature attempt at humor.

Doesn’t matter. I had to go. The city wrote: “The Board of Supervisors hereby urges Fox News and Westwood One (radio distributor) to terminate the employment of news show host Bill O’Reilly …”

Hey, Jimmy Kimmel, this proposition is for you. We are peas in the same pod. Abbott and Costello. Simon and Garfunkel.

Strange that no Kimmel supporters said a thing back when the City by the Bay wanted to throw me into the bay without a wetsuit.

Did George Clooney speak up defending the First Amendment as he recently did with Jim? By George, he did not. Did Stephen King take a stand? No, sir.

How about that Jake Tapper guy? No support at all. Same thing with Elwood, Jake’s partner in the “Snooze Brothers.”

My point, and I do have one, is that the hypocrisy police would be very busy with Jimmy’s supporters; not that double standards matter much in the media. The ardent left-wingers continue to oppose any sanctions against Jim and his anti-Trump jihad, which now includes his wife and son.

The truth is that Mr. Kimmel has morphed into a hater. The Disney Company is funding that hate. Not a good look for anyone in that corporation, especially since the Mouse House fired Star Wars actress Gina Carano for politically incorrect texts.

No, the Jimmy Kimmel hate party is not a good look at all.

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Mamdani Controversy and Trump

2026-05-01T22:49:00Z

Highlights from O'Reilly's No Spin News

2026-05-01T22:00:00Z

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The Evil of Iran

2026-05-01T07:57:00Z

The evil of Iran has been apparent for decades. A theocracy, the government kills thousands of people, both inside and outside the country. To the Mullahs, human life means nothing; all violence is acceptable in the name of Allah.

I deal with Iran in my book “Confronting Evil” in order to spotlight the danger.

The other night, I again watched “Schindler’s List”, the best film about the Holocaust ever produced. 85 years ago, the world knew the violent Nazi regime was on the rise. The Third Reich did not hide its philosophy of death, just as Iran doesn’t disguise their homicide.

And once again, Jews are in the kill zone.

But NATO and other countries are looking away. See no evil. They don’t believe that Iran is feverishly working to construct a nuclear weapon. They don’t want to believe that because confronting Iran brings discomfort. It disrupts the economy. So, millions, including many Americans, feel the Iranian conflict is a fabrication designed by the Trump administration.

This mirrors what happened with Adolf Hitler. The world actually awarded the mass murderer the 1936 Olympics. Hitler took full advantage of the world’s apathy to start the most destructive war in history.

Iran could very well imitate Hitler with its weaponry. Not a stretch to contemplate that.

But once again, the world turns away. History is absolutely repeating itself. That scenario is frightening.

Sid Rosenberg on Becoming the "Ultimate Trump Guy"

2026-05-01T07:47:00Z

WABC's Sid Rosenberg did not care for Donald Trump's presidential aspirations originally, but he explains what changed with Bill O'Reilly.

Keeping Score of Violence

2026-05-01T07:44:00Z

The Afternoon Dispatch is written by BillOReilly.com staff.

One of the more grotesque features of our age is this: Whenever there’s a mass killing or an attempted political hit, our first question is often whether the perp is an ideological teammate or on the other side. Islamic terrorist? MAGA type? Lefty loon? Trans? And when the villain is not one of ours, we breathe a sigh of relief.

This was evident once again when 31-year-old Cole Thomas Allen stormed the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, apparently intent on killing Trump aides and maybe even the president himself. Conservatives on Fox News and liberals on MS NOW quickly manned their battle stations and recited the usual talking points. To the right, this was the latest in a string of ‘progressive’ violence.

They have plenty of evidence in Allen’s so-called manifesto, which reads like it was cribbed from Joy Reid, Lawrence O’Donnell, or any number of far-left kooks who spew anti-Trump vitriol every night and day. But the left quickly presented a counter-argument, an academic study of political violence conducted by the Cato Institute. The study claims that right-wing sorts are responsible for far more political violence than those on the left. Thus, every time a lefty tries to murder someone, pundits on CNN and MS NOW trot out a Cato study. Even on Fox News, The Five’s token liberal Jessica Tarlov cited Cato and insisted that conservatives are far more likely to kill their political opponents.

However, as has been pointed out, notably by Batya Ungar-Sargon on NewsNation, the data are skewed. Cato doesn’t include those killed during the left-wing 2020 George Floyd riots. Then there's Thomas Crooks, who tried to murder Donald Trump in Butler, PA, in the summer of 2024. The study claims there is ‘no good direct evidence’ that he was motivated by politics. Crooks is therefore missing from the list of lefty killers.

In addition, there are other organizations that act as referees in this macabre game of who is killing whom. One is The Prosecution Project, compiled by radical leftists and often quoted in mainstream publications. The Project does not count the killing of Charlie Kirk as ‘political’ but lists as right-wing violence every person arrested for blocking access to abortion clinics. Then there’s the ADL, which classifies nearly every prison murder as ‘right-wing’ violence. These scorekeepers often rely on data from the odious Southern Poverty Law Center, which stands accused of funding the KKK and other organizations in order to manufacture more ‘right-wing hate.’

People on all sides of the political spectrum, with the notable exception of a few whack jobs like lefty darling Hasan Piker, usually make a point of decrying any violence, regardless of who is responsible. But almost all of us also have that unfortunate tendency to keep score, and it’s hard to ignore the fact that the most recent horrible acts have been perpetrated by anti-Trump leftists.

So when you hear about studies that claim to prove the exact opposite of what you see with your own eyes, it’s advisable to keep in mind the words of Mark Twain: ‘There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies … and statistics.’

The views expressed in the Afternoon Dispatch are those of BillOReilly.com staff.

Bill O'Reilly on Piers Morgan Uncensored on Trump, Iran, & King Charles

2026-04-30T20:05:00Z

Bill O’Reilly joins Piers Morgan Uncensored.

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O'Reilly & Sid Rosenberg on the President's Safety

2026-04-30T17:13:00Z

Bill and WABC’s Sid Rosenberg discuss the president’s physical safety and the Jimmy Kimmel situation. They also talk about Sid’s appearance on We’ll Do It LIVE!, during which Sid talks about the darkest periods in his life.

Is Hatred Contagious?

2026-04-30T16:29:00Z

Dr. Anna Lembke, Professor of Psychiatry and Chief of the Stanford Addiction Medicine Dual Diagnosis Clinic, enters the No Spin Zone to discuss whether violence on social media and pop culture is contagious, and whether people act on hate speech.

The War Between Trump and Disney

2026-04-30T16:28:00Z

Bill breaks down why the FCC is now looking into Disney programs, including The View and Jimmy Kimmel.

Bill O'Reilly & Chris Cuomo on the URGENCY of the Iran Situation

2026-04-30T16:23:00Z

Bill joins NewsNation to discuss the Jimmy Kimmel situation and the reality of Iran with Chris Cuomo.

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O'Reilly & Hannity on Jimmy Kimmel, Disney, and Hate

2026-04-30T16:21:00Z

Bill joins Sean Hannity and describes anti-Trump ‘comedian’ Jimmy Kimmel as a flat-out hate merchant. He expresses amazement that Disney continues to give a platform to someone with Kimmel’s history of tasteless and incendiary rhetoric.

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We'll Do It LIVE! - Sid Rosenberg

2026-04-30T16:00:00Z

Bill O’Reilly interviews WABC radio’s Sid Rosenberg in one of his deepest interviews, yet. Sid talks about his controversy with New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani, getting kicked out of President Biden’s State of the Union address, and his support of President Trump.

They also examine his radio career, working with Don Imus, the death of his co-host Bernard McGuirk, and hitting rock bottom with addiction.

We'll Do It LIVE! - Sid Rosenberg

2026-04-30T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY So here we are on Do It Live, all right, again. And I got a very special guest, Sid Rosenberg. Now, for those of you who don't live in the New York area, and remember, 16 million people do, okay? Rosenberg is a top talk guy on radio for everybody. He just wipes them out month after month after month. But here's the kicker on Rosenberg, he should be dead. All right, he shouldn't be the top of anything. He should be in the ground and somehow survived madness and then climbed to a very, very difficult position. I mean, to be number one in the nation's largest market is a very, very steep accomplishment. So, all right, Rosenberg, I've been nice to you. That's gonna end right now. The national audience may know you from Crazy Imus.

ROSENBERG That's right.

O’REILLY That's where I want to start. So, Imus selects you as his sports guy.

ROSENBERG How it worked was, Imus had a boss, and his name was Mark Chernoff. Well, Imus didn't really have a boss. But Mark Chernov was the boss at WFAN. And I had just done a year at a station called WNEW in New York in the year 2000, doing a sports show, my first year coming out of Florida, and it was awful. The ratings were terrible. Quite frankly, I was terrible, but I guess I did enough to impress the powers that be at WFAN. So after WNEW in 2001 decided not to bring me back, I was heading back to Florida. But I was told by somebody at the fan, hey, before you go back, do yourself a favor. Call Lee Davis, he was the guy in charge of sales. Call Mark Chernoff, they like you. I said, they liked me? This was the worst show in the history of radio.

O'REILLY And no one likes you.

ROSENBERG And no one likes me. And they liked me less back then. But long story short, Steve Cohen was his name. He ran the sports at Sirius XM for about 20 years, not the Cohen who owns the Mets. And he was right, they like me. So Chernoff is a guy who went to Imus, who, at the time, was using guys named Mike Breen, you may have heard of him, and Warner Wolf, and John Minko.

O'REILLY And he fired Warner Wolf, right?

ROSENBERG He did fire Warner Wolf twice in favor of me, but this time in early 2001, Chernoff said, I got you a sports guy, and Imus said, I don't want him. And Chernoff said, you're gonna try him, he's good. So he was reluctant to bring me on, Imus, but it turned out to be a hateful, loving 18-year relationship.

O'REILLY Okay, you were on that show 18 years, that's amazing. And Bernard McGuirk, the late Bernard McGuirk, who I used on The O'Reilly Factor, Gutfeld, and McGuirk. I made Gutfeld, by the way, and I regret it.

ROSENBERG It was Tuesday nights, I remember that vividly, it was great.

O'REILLY You're walking into the cliche-ridden lion's den, because Imus was, would you say he was schizophrenic? Well, he was kind of a crazy guy, Imus, right?

ROSENBERG Crazy, schizophrenic, angry. I never knew, was he mad every morning? Every morning.

O'REILLY Every morning?

ROSENBERG Every morning, and what he would do is, I was making about $1.50 at the time. He was doing very well because he was getting paid by both WFAM, which was a CBS radio property, and MSNBC. He was number one in the mornings. So he was raking in over $10 million a year. And he'd walk into the newsroom with WFM. There was a rule, Bill. You could never look at Imus. Not kidding you.

O'REILLY Who? Who couldn't?

ROSENBERG None of the employees at WFAN were allowed to look at him.

O'REILLY Okay? What?

ROSENBERG The newsroom employees. Not Mike and the mad dog and the talent. But the newsroom employees were not allowed to look at them.

O'REILLY So the techs and people like that?

ROSENBERG That's right. So he'd walk into the newsroom. And everybody would look down.

O'REILLY Was there any explanation of why you couldn't look at Imus?

ROSENBERG Well, he was, he wasn't handsome, man, so that was part of it.

O'REILLY Right, it wasn't a drawback.

ROSENBERG Like Medusa, you know, but he was just not intimidating. That it was a kind of a non-written rule. Don't look at him. But he would walk over to me, and he would lean over. This is like five o'clock in the morning, and he'd whisper in my ear, I need you to be funny today. And he'd walk away. And could you imagine, I'm 31 years old, I have all but three years of where you experience down in Florida under my belt, and here's I who at the time was at the very top of his game, he was really like stern, and he's saying to me, he's making 11 million a year, I'm not gonna be making 75,000, he's saying to me, I need you to be funny today. So when you look back at all my issues with Imus, and I was fired three times, suspended six times, I was in the papers every week, you'll understand why when you know the pressure he put on me as a young man new in this business.

O'REILLY But some of it was your fault.

ROSENBERG Of course.

O'REILLY You know, you'd call people names, and they made it and do a much bigger deal than it should have been, but that road brought you into prominence, the Imus road. Then, people started to know who Sid Rosenberg was in the radio world. Okay, but in parallel to that, you got in trouble with drugs and gambling, two-fer at the same time?

ROSENBERG And drinking. Uh, all three.

O'REILLY Really? You had three.

ROSENBERG Three.

O'REILLY You had a hat trick.

ROSENBERG I had a hat trick.

O'REILLY Of depravity.

ROSENBERG Yes.

O'REILLY This is a good line.

ROSENBERG That's a great line.

O'REILLY Hat trick of depravity.

ROSENBERG This is not Mark Messier against the Devils, this is a hat trick of depravity.

O'REILLY Because you have a very nice wife, I mean, you do, and so you are doing this high-pressure show every morning, and you're gambling, and you're drinking, and you're drugging at the same time.

ROSENBERG That's right.

O'REILLY How'd you get through that?

ROSENBERG I didn't. I. didn't. I ended up getting fired. I ended up...

O'REILLY What'd they fire you for? Did they know you were a loon?

ROSENBERG They knew, you know, back in 2004, for example, I went to Cleveland, a side gig. There was this early days of UFC, this cage match. It was at Cleveland State University on a snowy night during the winter. And it was a big night because they were having ex-NFL players fight against each other. Four-round fight. You know how that works. So Michael Westbrook, he was the wide receiver for the Redskins, took on Jared Bunch. He was running back for the Giants and bought a B and S for it that night. Long story short, I got about $5,000. I'm in Cleveland, and it was a Friday night, and when the fights ended, I wasn't going back to my hotel home alone, I was going down to the flats, the basement, that area, you know. And I got myself into a whole bunch of drinking trouble and never came home for two days. And when I got home...

O'REILLY What does that mean now, trouble? They beat you up?

ROSENBERG No, nobody beat me up. It wasn't any trouble with the cops. I mean, my own trouble.

O'REILLY You were intoxicated.

ROSENBERG I was intoxicated. I ended up taking a whole bunch of money out of the account, which I couldn't explain to my beautiful wife, Danielle. I'll be married 34 years this June. And when I got home, I had to explain to her what I had done. And I had already gone to rehab 10 years prior. And I said, Danielle, if I don't go back tomorrow, I'm gonna die.

O'REILLY All right, so this is his second rehab.

ROSENBERG Second rehab, 2005.

O'REILLY And see how to know you're a little bit off and doing...

ROSENBERG She knew, but she loved me, still does, obviously we're still together, thank God for her, and she just wanted to believe that I was okay, but the signs were there, I was struggling.

O'REILLY So you knew you weren't okay?

ROSENBERG No, I actually, at one point in my trip in Cleveland, which is well documented in my first book, You're Wrong, and You're Ugly, it was two days after I started the partying on Friday night, and I hadn't told Danielle yet why I wasn't coming home. I had a little bit of drugs left in my pocket, and I wanted to kill myself.

O'REILLY Did that thought actually go through your mind?

ROSENBERG More than a thought. I actually walked outside my hotel room. I was staying on the 14th floor. I walked to the very edge of the terrace, and I was ready to do it. I was convinced that my life was basically over. Here I am again, I'll be back in trouble, back in rehab, lost this amazing opportunity. More importantly, disappointed my wife. My son wasn't born yet, beautiful Gabriel, but Ava was. And I went into my pocket to take out what I thought was the end of my drugs, but I had two things in my pocket. One was the drugs, the other was a key chain to my house in Tanafly, New Jersey. And on the key chain... On the keychain was a picture of my daughter Ava, who at the time was about 18 months old. And when I reached for the drugs in my pocket, instead I took out the keychain. I looked at the picture, and I could have sworn, Bill, she said to me. Daddy, don't do it. So I put the keychain back in my pocket. I called Danielle, I said, I'm coming home. And I left the next morning for New York City.

O'REILLY And then after that, you went to rehab.

ROSENBERG I went to a rehab, and WFAN and Imus, all those people were very, very supportive. They let me...

O'REILLY Well, Imus had his own.

ROSENBERG He had his own.

O'REILLY His own bounce.

ROSENBERG At that time, he was probably sober about 15 years, but he was the epitome of a dry drunk. But nevertheless, he was sober, and he was very nice to me, and they kept my jobs, both the midday show host and the Imus sports job, for 30 days while I went away. And when I came back, I resumed both positions, but I wasn't well yet. And it didn't take me long after getting back to make an offensive comment or two, which eventually led to my termination in 2005. And that was the last time I worked a daily show at WFAN. And they did bring me back for nine years, till 2014, in an effort to get me back because they loved my talent and they liked me.

O'REILLY Did you... This sounds like self-destruction, you know, that's what it sounds like. The conduct itself, that you felt you weren't worthy of the success, or I'm not a psychiatrist, but.

ROSENBERG You sound like one.

O'REILLY I know enough about life. It sounds like you had everything, which you did, but you didn't feel you deserved everything.

ROSENBERG You nailed it. That's exactly what all my therapists said to me and Danielle, and there was a time I was going to a lot of meetings, 12-step meetings for alcohol, 12-step meetings for drugs, psychiatrists, psychologists, and they all said the same thing, that I had mastered the art of self-sabotage, that I wanted no part of any success. And as soon as I got to that point, because there was time at WFAN, I was doing the Giants pregame show in front of 10,000 people. Outside of Gate D every Sunday, and they love me. I was hosting the midday show with Joe Beningo. I was doing sports on Imus. I was in my 30s and started to become a legitimate sports star. And every time I got close, I did something to make sure I never got...

O'REILLY You think that's what it was?

ROSENBERG I think, yeah, I think some of it was this fear of, oh my God, am I worthy of this? Can I do this? I don't know for sure. You know, look, the truth...

O'REILLY You were raised by decent people, I know Rosenberg, you were raised by decent people.

ROSENBERG Very good people, and neither one of them had drug problems

O'REILLY And you weren't abused, and you weren't thrown out in the street when you were 8. You're not a ghetto kid.

ROSENBERG No.

O'REILLY Had no money in the home to develop whatever you wanted to develop. So it had to be all within you. You say you relapsed, then after you came back. When you relapse, the guilt gets worse. Right?

ROSENBERG It was terrible. It was, you know, I had gone to Atlantic City, and my wife was furious. They paid me maybe a thousand or two, it wasn't much. It was a fantasy football draft for a very popular magazine at the time called FHM magazine, and my agent Mark Lepselter at the time said, I'll take you, I watch you, we'll go, make a couple thousand dollars, and you'll come home. And everybody was against it. My boss, Mark Chernoff, said, you're not coming back. I said, will you stop it? I just got back from rehab, show some faith. Same thing with Danielle. They were vehemently against it. And I knew in the back of my mind that I was probably risking it, but that was part of the fun, right? That's part of, part of a thrill. So I went to Atlantic City, and I went to this party, and they paid me in cash, which was a big mistake. And I said goodnight to my agent, everybody else. And I headed towards the boardwalk, and there was a gentleman who rides those, they're kind of like buggies on the boardwalk, take it back to your hotel. And I had a couple thousand dollars cash in my pocket, and I said, hey, where's the party? And the next thing you know, it's Sunday morning. I'm supposed to go back and host week one of the Giants Carolina Panthers pregame show. Week one, I'm the host. My third consecutive year. My dad, who will be dead six years in July, man, do I miss him. He never missed a game. He'd be out there in his big Giants sweatsuit, all proud of me. And they were all out there waiting for me, and my agent came down to my hotel room, and I said, I'm not going. I had a pile of drugs in the room, I had booze in the room, and I was so ashamed and so afraid because I was really high.

O'REILLY So you didn't show.

ROSENBERG I stayed in Atlantic City. My agent, who comes under a lot of fire in my house, I think some of it's unfair, he did the best he could, he physically tried to remove me from the room. He actually had a bit of a fist fight. I did not come home, I stayed.

O'REILLY Okay, so that's two you're dealing with now. So, finally you got yourself cleaned up from that, you went back to...

ROSENBERG No, I did not get cleaned up from that. That was really just a couple of months after I went back to rehab for a second time. And I remember I took a cab home that night, it was $400. And Mark Chernoff said, listen, we gotta talk in the morning. And my wife woke me up very early, and she said, we're gonna drive to WFAN because I feel like you'll have a better chance of keeping your job if you speak to Mark Chernoff face to face. This is now 2005, and I've had two different major collapses and blowups.

O'REILLY Right.

ROSENBERG So, we started to make our way towards Queens. I'll never forget this. We're on the bridge, 59th Street Bridge, right there, and Chernoff called, and Danielle picked up, and he loved Danielle, still does, we're still very close to this day. He's like a father to me, and he said listen. I've got some bad news, and she said don't even say it, We're gonna be there in 20 minutes. He said, don't come. And she said, but Mark, we're almost there, he said. He said, don't come, nothing's gonna change in the next 20 minutes, I love your husband. I think he is one of the most talented people. He goes, I've worked with Imus, I've worked with Stern, Mike and the Mad Dog, he's as good as any of them. But he's never gonna work here again. And it breaks my heart, and he started to cry. And Danielle started to try. And we turned the car around and went home. Now, mind you, mind you, that was 2005. It did not take 14 months for Mark Chernoff to call me back and put me back on Imus from Miami, which he did.

O'REILLY You went to Florida in exile, right?

ROSENBERG I went to Florida in exile. That trip...

O'REILLY Did you clean up down there a little bit?

ROSENBERG I did. The trip to Florida, Bill, I have to tell you, we just bought this beautiful house in Tenafly, New Jersey. My daughter was home there the first night she was born. My wife loved that house, so did I. And I knew I was about to lose it. I couldn't pay a mortgage, didn't have a job. And I had a kind of a it was a nice size SUV car, and I put Danielle in the car, and I put my baby little girl in the car, and my dog Lucy. And I started a long trek from New Jersey down to Boca Raton, where Danielle's cousin Linda and George lived. They're still there. George passed away, but Linda is still there, and they offered to have us live with them because I had no money, no job. And I was driving and somewhere around Virginia, if I remember correctly, it was by Blacksburg, where Virginia Tech plays their football games, I started to just... Cry uncontrollably, and Danielle woke up, and she said, what's going on? And I said, I blew it. I don't know what I'm gonna do, I'm sorry. And it was a brutal trip, just thinking, well, Danielle slept most of the time, and so did my daughter. Thinking about what I'd done and the scarier part was not what I had done, but what was I gonna do?

O'REILLY Right, you always had that balance where you might be more self-destructive. Now, you worked in Florida, right?

ROSENBERG I did.

O'REILLY Somebody hired you down there.

ROSENBERG Eventually, I got a job at the number one sports station 790 The Ticket. Some very familiar names work there, guys like Dan LeBatard and Boo Shambi, and some big Florida names, and I worked there. I ended up working at three.

O'REILLY Were you functional there?

ROSENBERG Oh, more than functional. I was never not functional, even in New York. I never drank, or did...

O'REILLY Were you still a drug addict, though?

ROSENBERG Oh, oh sure. Listen, you know, it's funny, I saw Randy Grimes, he played for the Buccaneers on Fox News a couple of weeks ago. They brought him on to talk about Tiger Woods. And Fox News puts at the bottom of the screen, they go, former drug user, drug addict, drug addict, I'm sorry, former drug addict. And I called Randy, and I said, I gotta tell you, you're great on television today, but what do you think about Fox News calling you a former drug addict? And we both laughed. Bill O'Reilly, I will be a drug addict forever. Thank God, I am sober and clean for a long time. God has taken away the desire. I have no desire.

O'REILLY Well, when did that happen?

ROSENBERG It probably happened about seven years ago. You know, I still had my battles with sobriety down in South Florida. I'd be good for a longer time than I wouldn't. I was much better than I was in New York, but I was... Far from perfect. I was not perfect.

O'REILLY Were you still going to rehab and stuff?

ROSENBERG No, no, I did my two rehabs in 1995 and 2005.

O'REILLY That was it for the rehab.

ROSENBERG And that was it.

O'REILLY Did you have a personal guy?

ROSENBERG I had a sponsor, or I went to meetings, but probably not enough, you know? I started to feel pretty good about myself, and I was becoming a big radio star again, and you know, I was seemingly okay. But the desire was lifted many years ago. I don't think about it. I don't care. You know, there was a time.

O'REILLY You don't know why it was lifted.

ROSENBERG I don't know why.

O'REILLY A lot of people say it's the higher power.

ROSENBERG Listen, I believe that's true. I did get arrested once in South Florida. I had another terrible night, and I was leaving a Miami Heat basketball game and had gone to a club, and I decided I had to fight with Danielle that night. I was trying to get to the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, Florida to sleep, to find a place to sleep. And I was about two miles away from the hotel and casino. I remember, I do remember pulling over to a residential community in front of somebody's house. Because I started to feel sick, and I knew I wasn't going to make it. And the next thing I knew, there was a cop in my face. So it turned out that I tried to exit the vehicle, I did open the door, I ended up throwing up all over myself, and I passed out. So a guy on a bicycle drove by and called the cops and said, hey, there's a dead guy. Literally, he said, there is a dead guy in his truck. Come get him. And the cops came, and that wasn't nearly as popular in South Florida as I am now, for example. I've, you know, I've gained some pretty good popularity, as you could appreciate, but I was pretty popular. And the cop knew who I was right away. And he said, you're lucky you're alive, but you're going to jail. So I called Danielle, my wife's a big-time attorney, and I said, Dee, I'm in trouble again, please come. And my kids were babies at the time, there was no babysitter at two o'clock in the morning. She threw the kids in the car, there were babies. And she arrived at the scene, and she said, listen, you know my husband, he's working really hard at trying to keep his life together. He had a bad night, no question about it, but if you arrest him, he's gonna be in the Sun Sentinel, he's going to be in The Miami Herald, and he's gonna be done. For the sake of my two little kids here, let me take them home. I'll take them all home, we'll get the car moved. And this cop, all he can think about was, are you kidding me? I'm gonna be in the papers tomorrow. I arrested Sid Rosenberg. I'm going to be on the news. So he didn't pay attention to Danielle. And they arrested me. And I remember, you talk about times when you start to figure out the gig is up. They placed their handcuffs on me. I'm sitting in the back seat of the police car. My daughter Ava, who is now 22, graduated Wales, Cardiff University in Wales, and is working with Arthur Idala. I mean, on some of the biggest cases in the city right now, she's an amazing kid. She's going to U of Penn for her LLM in a couple of months. She was seven. And I remember turning around in the back seat, handcuffed, vomit all over myself just... an embarrassment. And I remember seeing her crying. Like, why are they taking Daddy in that car? And I'm not going to tell you that I never drank or did drugs again after that because I'd be lying, but I will tell you, that was a pivotal moment in my life, and the amount of times that I did that after that, you can count on one hand. That was the beginning, I think, the beginning of...

O'REILLY So Ava saved your life twice.

ROSENBERG Ava saved my life twice, in my book, You're Wrong and You're Ugly, the first book I wrote, I actually referred to my daughter as my angel.

O'REILLY So then you turn it around, and you get another shot at New York City. So you come on in, but you didn't have the same demons, or did you have the same demons?

ROSENBERG No, I wasn't gonna do it again. I just, I still had them, I'm sure. Thank God.

O'REILLY But you were able to conduct yourself on a day-to-day responsible level?

ROSENBERG I was.

O'REILLY Okay.

ROSENBERG A lot of people, just so you know, Bill, a lot of people went out of their way to get me back. You know, Chad Lopez, one of them, everybody said to Chad, are you nuts? Including Imus. He didn't want me back. There was a...

O'REILLY I mean, sure.

ROSENBERG He wanted Mike Lupica. There was a big fight between who should replace Geraldo Rivera. Here were your two choices. Mike Lupica, doing the show from his house in Westchester and making a lot of money or getting Sid back from Florida, had a built-in fan base, teaming them up with Bernard, keeping the Imus thing going, pay them less, and have them do the midday show. And a lot of folks, the majority, including Don Imus, wanted Lupika. Chad Lopez said, nope, I'm bringing Sid back. He was not the only one. So here I am, I'm gonna, once again, have my wife move back to another state, take my kids out of school. And it occurred to me that I can't keep doing that and disappointing everybody. So it wasn't gonna happen again here in New York.

O'REILLY Okay. But you're coming into a station that was last in the market.

ROSENBERG Last.

O'REILLY Brutal.

ROSENBERG Dead.

O'REILLY Okay. And then you take it to number one in the morning.

ROSENBERG Yes.

O'REILLY And that's a pretty stunning achievement. I've done it, so I know.

ROSENBERG Yes.

O'REILLY You have to work your butt off to do it. But you also have to have armor. Armor, because when you're on your way up, people try to drag you back down, you know how it is.

ROSENBERG Who knows better than you about that?

O'REILLY Nobody.

ROSENBERG Nobody. Well, maybe Trump. They didn't try to shoot you three times, but close.

O'REILLY No, but they would have if they could have.

ROSENBERG Right.

O'REILLY But you're on the ascent, okay? And I work with you, so I know it's because you're authentic.

ROSENBERG Thank you.

O'REILLY And New Yorkers, they want authenticity. They want people they can identify with, and you're that. But you're also a dope sometimes.

ROSENBERG Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay, which is okay in radio.

ROSENBERG Of course.

O'REILLY Television's a little harder to be a dope.

ROSENBERG Yes. No, it's true.

O'REILLY But anyway, you come, and then you make the show and carry the station with you, obviously, mornings are everything, into the position of prominence. Number one, did you know you were gonna do that? Did you have confidence?

ROSENBERG I did. I did. I knew it, I, you know, the show I did in Florida, I had a guy, a couple of guys, you never heard of him. Their names were Steve Zimak, he's my producer, and Eric Lengel, they're gonna love this. You guys are famous. He was my board op. I approach the show every morning from a late-night television type of philosophy. So I said, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do all the stories we're supposed to do, whether it's politics or sports, but we're going to talk about music, and we're going to talk about our kids, and we gonna talk about lifestyle. Going to the restaurant last night, going to the ball game. So I knew that if I had the opportunity in New York to take that same exact show that I did in Florida and do it in New York, I'd have huge success. I didn't have that early on. Don't forget, we started doing mid-days, me and Bernard. Imus was still there, okay, for a good couple of years. And there was a time when Imus fired Warner Wolf again, and I was doing sports on Imus and the mid-day show with Bernard. When they finally forced Imus out, when he retired, and gave me and Bernhard the mornings, you know, we were working for Cumulus. John Catsimatidis, we had two other stations that were not doing great, WPLJ, and the nearest country station that actually was doing pretty well. So there were all kinds of issues, all kinds of issues. And to be honest, I love Bernard, and I miss Bernie every day. He was one of my best friends. I tell people all the time, I miss the on-air Bernie less than my friend. Not because he wasn't great or talented, he was. But we had two different notions of what the show was gonna be. He became this political animal, right? He was the cut-up guy on Imus, always getting into trouble, like you called me a dope? Bernard took that to the nth degree on Imus. Then he decided, listen, I'm 60-something years old, I'm about to have grandchildren, I gotta calm down. So he would get like 90,000 political cuts every morning and try to keep it really newsy. And I was still trying to do sports, and music, and fun. So when you listen to Bernie and Sid early on the morning show, it was almost as if you were listening to two different shows.

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O'REILLY All right, so you get into the position where you're dominating, and then you take a pivot into politics. You're the ultimate Trump guy, okay? So, did you know Trump before he got into politics? Did you know him?

ROSENBERG I did. So I did sports, and I covered boxing. And for years, HBO had what they called Radio Row at all their big fights, Bill. I'm talking about Las Vegas, Dallas, Los Angeles, specifically Mike Tyson. So, I think I probably did my show live from the HBO Radio Row for Mike Tyson fights 20 times. Now, this is after his prison stay. So, you know, he's...the back nine, but he's winning. He's beating Francois Botha, he's beating all these basically tomato cans until he runs into people like Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis. But I would see Trump at these events, and Trump was a big Tyson guy, and I had him on the show once or twice. In fact, when he was on, not the last time he was on, the president, but the time before that, he was still campaigning, he wasn't president yet. We're going back a couple of years. And he said, you know, Sid, he goes, I'm proud of you. He said, You don't remember, which I do. He said, you don't remember, but I knew you when, when I was struggling. And let me say this about President Trump. He's never had a drink, you know this, maybe your audience does, maybe they don't, he's never had a drink. He loved his brother, and his brother died from alcoholism. The fact that I've been able to maintain my sobriety and achieve what we've been talking about, sober and good, for all these years. If you don't think that's part of the reason why President Trump has this affection for me, not you, but you're somewhere between naive and stupid and closer to the latter. He absolutely loves that about me, that I put it away. I don't do that stuff anymore, he's never done that. So he said to me, he goes, I remember you when I was out at Super Bowl parties. I would see him in different locations, and I was whacked out. So I did know him, he did do my sports shows every now and then, but certainly not the friendship that we've got today.

O'REILLY Okay. So, in New York City, a huge anti-Trump movement. When you became full-fledged Trump guy.

ROSENBERG I mean, the worst. I'm the worst.

O'REILLY Well, you love him.

ROSENBERG I love them, yeah.

O'REILLY I know. Did you take a lot of heat from the Upper West Siders? I mean, were you getting death threats and all that?

ROSENBERG All that. So, God, you ask great questions. You know, in 2015 in Florida, I was still in Florida doing sports. And I had this lady, she worked at my sister's station. It was a political station. Her name is Joyce Kaufman. She's number one in news talk down in Florida.

O'REILLY Yeah, I know Joyce.

ROSENBERG Oh, you do? Great. So I would do her political show. She would do my sports show. And she loved Trump. And I'd say, what are you, nuts? Listen, I like the guy too, but the guy, he does a television show. How's he gonna run this country? We're a mess. Obama killed it. I hated Obama. I said, but this guy can't help us. So I came to New York in 2016, and the first year of my show with Brenard, the midday show, all we did was fight. That's all we do. He loved Trump. They have a nice little relationship. And I liked Trump, but thought he was, I thought he was one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. I actually told him that. I said I knew nothing about you. You're going to build a wall and wear a stupid hat. That's all I saw from you. What else were you going to do?

O'REILLY So you weren't immediately on his team.

ROSENBERG Bill, I voted for Hillary, and I told him that. He comes on with me and Bernard in 2017, and that's the first time we ever had him on. And I said, Mr. President, Bernard, ask him some question, I said, Mr. President, I say, I got to be honest, I've known you for years, oh yeah. I said I didn't vote for you. I said, I really didn't think you could become the president that you are today. So the good news is it took me about three months to come to the realization, you're the best ever. But the truth is, I didn't vote for you. I didn't buy it. Your whole campaign, I thought, was silly. So the interview goes on about another 10 minutes, and Bernard's about to wrap up the interview, and he goes back to it. He goes, how about it, Bernard? I changed him. I changed him. That's all he wanted to talk about was that, yes, he loved it. Listen, all the folks that loved him when he came down the escalator, he likes those guys. Even some of the folks that hate him. But you showed Trump somebody, who he was able to change to the guy I am today, which is the biggest Trump supporter in the world. He loves that. That's me. Didn't like him as a president. Took me a very short amount of time to figure out, boy, this guy's good.

O'REILLY And then I know you're invested in Israel, and he's obviously an Israel supporter, President Trump is, and has helped Israel. So that was a part of it, right?

ROSENBERG Well, when you say helped Israel, it's fair to say that no president in the history of our country has come even close.

O'REILLY Harry Truman, he did a lot.

ROSENBERG He did, but not Abraham Accords, moved the of course the embassy to Jerusalem, recognized the Golan Heights. I mean, I can go over 10 things that Trump did. Harry didn't do that. Harry's terrific, no question, but no one's come close to Trump.

O'REILLY So then you become an activist on Trump's behalf, all right, and you go to Biden's State of the Union, and I don't know why they let you in, I certainly wouldn't have. Just the tan alone, you wouldn't have gotten by the door. And you yell out, okay, says who?

ROSENBERG That's right.

O'REILLY What did Biden say that rankled you there?

ROSENBERG I'm going to tell you. By the way, I yelled that out, Alan Dershowitz, who announced last week he's now a Republican, after 87 years, he's a brilliant attorney, I love Alan, he's writing a new book, and he's doing a whole chapter in the book on me saying says who at that speech. He felt like that was a huge moment. Believe it or not, this is Alan Durshowitz. So that's surreal for me. So I'm sitting upstairs, right, because I'm not one of the House members. Anthony D'Esposito from your neck of the woods, he brought me to the State of the Union. I'm sitting upstairs, and at that point, we're really in the heat of the Israel war, real heat. And they're starting to get some unfair criticism from people in the United States and all across the world, and I'm getting angrier about the anti-Semitism in Israel every day. And I figure Biden's going to get to that in the speech, okay? He had hostages sitting up there with me, hostages, okay. Ten minutes in, nothing. 20 minutes in, I'm like murmuring, screaming under my breath, but it wasn't under my breath. So the CNN guy in front of me, the episode was going, hey, sir, could you calm down? We can hear you. I said, okay, I just, you know, I get frustrated. When's he gonna talk about Israel? 40 minutes in, nothing. Finally, about 50 minutes into this dreadful speech, and man, was dreadful. He was all jacked up on something, I don't know, so he wasn't falling asleep, but was awful. He finally gets to Israel, and he goes, listen. He goes, we, you know, we're friends with Israel, but according to the Palestinian Health Ministry, which you know, Bill O'Reilly, the Palestinian health ministry is run by...

O'REILLY Hamas.

ROSENBERG Bang. According to Hamas, he could have said, the Israelis have already killed 30,000 Palestinians. This is three years ago. My blood started to boil. I actually considered jumping over and just landing on top of him, and pummeling him, I swear to God.

O'REILLY You would have been shot to death.

ROSENBERG Of course. I don't know, these days, you know, they couldn't shoot our guy a couple of nights ago. But on a serious note, I stand up and I go, says who? And it took seconds. Three guys come rushing in, Capitol Police Secret Service. They grab me, and they say to me, sir, you have to leave. And I said, why? Look at those ladies down there with the white shirts, the Democrats with the white shirts. They're dancing, they're singing, they've got paddles, they're yelling, all this stuff. I said two words, I'm not going anywhere. So the Secret Service guy, Bill, puts his hand on my wrist. This is when you know I'm crazy. I go, you don't wanna do that. I'm talking to the cops. This guy could arrest me, and then it occurred to me, wait a second, I can't say that to him, you know?

O'REILLY But it did occur to you.

ROSENBERG It did occur.

O'REILLY All right.

ROSENBERG Yes, and he said, okay, well, here's the deal. If you don't get up and leave now, we're going to arrest you. We may arrest you anyway. But at the very least, give yourself a chance. So I exited the room.

O'REILLY On your own will.

ROSENBERG On my own will, Jim Comer is out there from Kentucky. Way to go, Emily Austin, one of your people from Nassau County, way to go. You're a hero. And I'm standing there for 30 minutes because the sergeant at arms was considering whether to arrest me or not. When they decided after 30 minutes, I can go home. I had to get Anthony D'Esposito, he was down in the chamber, to escort me out of the building like your daddy would do when you're eight years old at school, but needless to say, that hit the wires at NBC less than an hour later, and I became that guy, thrown out of the State of the Union, still one of my finest moments.

O'REILLY Did you explain it to your kids that way? Because I'm sure they were curious about their father almost being exiled to Devil's Island, you know.

ROSENBERG My kids always assume the worst. Yeah, they're like, Daddy, what'd you do? They love me, thank God, we're a very close family. They love me. They're proud of me. Tell me every day. I love you. I'm proud of you. But they always assume, Daddy, what did you do? When I explained it to them that the President of the United States was actually relying on Hamas instead of Israel. They said, good for you, Dad, way to go. You didn't go to jail. No big deal.

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O'REILLY All right. Then, uh, fast forward...

ROSENBERG You go then, because there's been so many things already. You know, you started us off by saying you should have been dead.

O'REILLY The goal of this, We'll Do It Live, is to destroy you. How am I doing? Am I doing all right?

ROSENBERG You're doing exceptional work.

O’REILLY So in March of this year, you called the mayor of New York, Mr. Mamdani, a cockroach.

ROSENBERG That's right.

O'REILLY Okay.

ROSENBERG Well, that was the end of the statement. I also called them, because I don't care anymore, anti-American, anti-Semite, jihadist.

O'REILLY All that's right, but once you get insects involved, then you've got, you know.

ROSENBERG You know what's funny about that? You're right. And the insect part for me was, for me, when I wrote it, it was like the least inflammatory. Like, I just--

O'REILLY But you're from Brooklyn.

ROSENBERG Right, we call people that.

O'REILLY Right.

ROSENBERG We call people insects, we. You know, look, there's an old slang word for homosexuals that we used in Brooklyn, had nothing to do with sexuality.

O'REILLY Don't say it.

ROSENBERG I'm not going to. But when you go with anti-American, radical, jihadist, all these things, I'm going, that's...

O'REILLY Cockroach is way worse.

ROSENBERG Yes, yes, I was shocked by that.

O'REILLY But then there was an outcry in the city, generated by you know, Mamdani's people, of course. They got the publicity out of it.

ROSENBERG Same night, Bill. Same night I went for, I tweeted this out, let's say it was four o'clock in the afternoon, seven o'clock that night I'm at my local Italian restaurant with my kids and my Twitter's... I look down Letitia James, hey Sid, I've never met her in my life, never talked to her, he's Sid, like we're best friends. This is Islamophobic, this is racist, I go, whoa, the attorney general. Before you know it, in the next hour, Governor Kathy Hochul. Former mayor Bill de Blasio, all of them, Julie Menon, the speaker of the city council, Jessica Tisch, who's my dear friend, we're very, very close, police commissioner, all of them. De Blascio, Ritchie Torres. One by one, and they all wrote the same exact thing.

O'REILLY Sure.

ROSENBERG So, as you said to me, in a private phone call, which is now no longer private, you said clearly this was an orchestrated effort by City Hall.

O'REILLY No doubt.

ROSENBERG A thousand percent right.

O'REILLY And you apologized.

ROSENBERG I did, but there's a lot of erroneous reports. I read something even just yesterday to John Catsimatidis, my owner of my radio station, was interviewed. He gets interviewed all the time, you know. And they always bring me up. Hey, you got that morning guy, he's crazy. And he courses himself, and it said in the column that John Catsimatidis even at one point had to force me to apologize. Let me set the record straight right here on, We'll Do It Live. Nobody, and I mean nobody, not John Catsimatidis, not Chad Lopez, not my wife and daughter, who I spoke to the night before. Not the clergy people, who spoke the night before, nobody mandated to me that I must apologize. I've just been through this, as you've heard through this. Fired many, many times. I know how things all of a sudden take on a different life, even things that are silly, stupid. Right, so I just started on my own, there was nothing from my boss that said do it. I did it on my own, and I will tell you that that day I still beat the living daylights out of Mamdani. I just left some of those other words out.

O'REILLY But you did the right thing by apologizing because you don't want to get down in the gutter with the Jimmy Kimmels, okay? I mean, I'm serious.

ROSENBERG No, you're right.

O'REILLY Because there's a line that you can cross that leads to insanity.

ROSENBERG You're right, but...

O'REILLY You don't want to be on the wrong side of the line.

ROSENBERG Well, it's not like I apologized.

O'REILLY You weren't groveling.

ROSENBERG No, no, but it's not like I apologized, and the Democrats appreciated it. You know, I say this all the time, and you could appreciate this, but part of the reason why, Bill O'Reilly, you're a legend, okay? It's surreal that I'm doing this, and I mean that, I'm honored. I can't thank you enough. You're a legend. Part of the reason why is that a lot of people don't like you. President Trump is hated by millions. So it's now like I apologized, and now the Democrats and the folks that don't like me said, you know what, that's it. He's not such a bad guy. They hate me. They hate me, maybe even more.

O'REILLY They'll never give you anything.

ROSENBERG Right, so what do we apologize... What exactly are we apologizing for? For ourselves? I felt better.

O'REILLY Now we did take a break for our Premium and Concierge Members. We'll come back. I have a very provocative question, not that I need it, with Rosenberg, who could go four hours. Okay, but I have a provocative question for him about New York City. So, for those of you who watch the We'll Do It Live, thank you very much. We hope you go and become Premium and Concierge members. Because then you get everything. We'll come to your house, we'll cut your lawn in the summer. We do all that. But I'll be back with Rosenberg in a moment.

Killing Time

2026-04-30T16:00:00Z

Killing Time with Sid Rosenberg

2026-04-30T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY Okay, we continue now with We'll Do It Live. People around the country who don't know the culture of New York City, come up to me, because they know I'm a New Yorker, like you, and they go, how could you elect a communist to be the mayor of the largest city in the country? How could that happen? How do you answer that question?

ROSENBERG Well, you're being kind, calling him a communist. I mean, again, I wanna rattle off all the names I've called him, but communist, socialist, anti-Semite, anti-American. There's a lot of bad stuff about this guy. How does it happen? Well, how it happened was, some people would tell you that, oh, they flew in people from different countries. They rigged it. There was a Muslim bloc. That's not the way it went. How it happened was, the youngsters, all those hipsters that live in fancy parts of Brooklyn like Williamsburg, some of the Upper East Side young people, they saw a guy who promised them the world. He was going to pay for everything. Everything was going be free from their education. That he was going to freeze their rent? Everything was going to be free. And I hate to say this, because it sounds crazy in a city where there's the second most Jews next to Israel in the world. But these days in these blue sanctuary cities, hating on Jews works. It's chic. So he had two platforms. It's all free for you, and you know what? And up with the Jews that worked here. So after 12 years of real lousy leadership between Bill de Blasio and Eric Adams, here comes this young guy. And the other big reason why he won was social media. And you're great at this too. He was able to take TikTok and make that work so well for him. How do you reach a young audience these days, Bill? How do you do it?

O'REILLY You gotta go on social media.

ROSENBERG He absolutely perfected it. So he's a terrible guy. He is already the worst mayor in the city's history and he's at 120 days in. But in terms of his campaign platforms, his social media, the young base, the, people call it a charming smile. I don't see it that way, but people say that he was the right guy at the right time. And unfortunately, he has now become the base of the whole party. There is not one politician in New York and across the country that at this point is not afraid of Zohran Mamdani.

O'REILLY How do you back up your statement that he's already the worst mayor in the city's history? What do you point to to back that?

ROSENBERG I have 10 different things. Let's start with Ken Griffin. Ken Griffin, I know you know him, very successful guy, wanted to do a six billion dollar project to renovate a building on 350 Park Avenue in New York City. Six billion dollars, Bill. Also, come with that, 15,000 jobs. People have to live somewhere, they have to eat somewhere. The amount of revenue coming to New York city was gonna blow the doors off. And what does he do? He does a commercial because he's trying to get the billionaires to pay all of our taxes or leave. He does a commercial outside of Ken Griffin's house. He humiliates the guy, he mentioned the guy. Now Ken Griffin is seriously considering not doing the deal. He'll take that $6 billion, he'll go to Florida, he'll to Texas, here's the problem. We've got a $5.4 billion deficit. Doesn't this moron mayor realize that Ken Griffin, $6 billion can help? So that's just, that's economics. Forget about the Jewish stuff, the fact that he doesn't want bumper zones in front of houses of worship. Now he has actually vetoed it. In front of education homes where Jewish kids go to school, he's done that, he vetoed that, okay? He actually blamed a synagogue for all the chaos outside rather than the pro-Hamas followers. He has put together a transition team of people that have A, some of them are felons, legitimate felons. Others had to completely erase their whole social media profile because they're a bunch of anti-Semites. So the economy is a big issue because he's trying to tax all the rich. He's driving the people who pay the majority of the taxes out of our city. That's a nightmare. He's done nothing to help the Jews. Anti-Semitism is at an all time high, and maybe the worst of all, he's anti-cop. This is what I tell Trump all the time when Trump says he's a nice guy. You cannot be anti-cops and be a nice guy. Not once, but twice, Bill, he has visited a perp in the hospital who tried to hurt a cop. One guy who tried kill a cop, he's gone to visit the perp twice. And now even Julie Menon, the city council speaker, has had just about enough of him. So, you look at what he's done, economy, the police, different ethnic groups in this city. In 120 days, this guy is already doing a ton of damage.

O'REILLY What is your take on the Trump-Mamdani relationship? Because Mamdani uses that. He uses it. And the president, I'm not going to say allows him to use it, but it gives him some sort of access.

ROSENBERG This is the one issue that I have with President Trump. And I've texted him about this, and I've said it on the air. And I'm always afraid I'm gonna make him angry, so I was very happy that he texted me back on Sunday morning. Hey, Sid, thanks, I'm okay thanks to the Secret Service. That made me feel good. Because I always think he's angry at me. I don't like what I saw in that Oval Office. I don't think that the President has to be that nice, telling everybody, well, he's a nice guy. No, he is not. He's not a nice guys. Okay, when you live with a woman, his wife, who actually liked, enjoyed graphic images of young girls being raped, babies put in ovens, teens being killed on October the 7th, that's not nice guy, anti-cop, that's a not nice guy, so I send messages to Trump. I go, be careful, okay? I understand you want New York to thrive. Folks, President Trump loves New York. He may live between Mar-a-Lago and Washington, D.C. He loves New York. His name is still on tons of buildings here. He wants New York to thrive. He believes that if he has a decent relationship or a good relationship with the mayor, that'll only help New York's chances of getting back to where it was. That's fine, but to smile and tell us he's a good guy, I know he doesn't feel that way in his heart of hearts. I know what he doesn't.

O'REILLY Does he ever answer your questions?

ROSENBERG He says, I understand. I understand.

O'REILLY You understand.

ROSENBERG And again, I think he wants us to thrive so badly he's willing to do it, but it's a bad look. It's a bad look. Even last week he finally came out and he took a shot at Mamdani on Tooth Social. He said, I hate to say this, but he's destroying our city based on the taxes, based on the economy, but still found a way to compliment him. My advice to President Trump from his biggest fan, a New York Jew who wants us to thrive in every possible aspect, you can be civil to the mayor, stop bending over to be so nice, because for some of us, we don't like it.

O'REILLY Well, it's going to get worse under Mamdani. That's for sure. No doubt in my mind as a historian. And the final question is the highlight of your week is talking to me on Thursday morning. Is that correct?

ROSENBERG Listen, not just to highlight, but you talked about how well I do on the ratings, and I'm gonna say this not to embarrass you, because I do do very, very well. I kill the competition. I'm destroying the guys across the street. When I say destroying, I mean 20 and a half times the ratings. Of all the segments we do, we've gotten to the point now in radio you could actually get ratings on every single segment. So let's say I do 20 segments a day. Every single segment all week long, the highest ratings I get for any segment any day of the week. The highest ratings on the whole radio station are Bill O'Reilly and Sid Rosenberg sometime around 9 a.m. give or take every Thursday morning.

O'REILLY And they can't even see me on the radio.

ROSENBERG No.

O'REILLY They can't see you.

ROSENBERG You're handsome guy. Look at that beautiful tie.

O'REILLY The... Just like Trump. Just like. You can see the Robert Wagner look. He's 98 years old now. Well, I appreciate you being on. We have a lot of fun. That's the key to it. We make good points.

ROSENBERG Yeah, well you do. But it's fun, it's fun.

O'REILLY And in any entertainment venue, you can give information and opinion, but you have to have some kind of rapport with the audience. The audience likes what they're seeing.

ROSENBERG Of course. And the thing that you do so well, and I'm going to talk about you on your own show, but one of the reasons why our segment and your whole career has been so great, is you can sit down with President Trump, I've said this before, I really fell in love with you. I've always liked and respected you. I think you're the best that ever did this job, but I fell in loved with you in 2015-16. You were the only person on television that criticized President Trump and I love President Trump, but you weren't nasty about it. You weren't looking to humiliate the president, and he respected you. And I would say to my brother-in-law, but I go, look at O'Reilly. He can say that to Trump. If anybody else said that, Trump would never talk to them again. He would Chuck Todd him. But with you, it was completely different. And you can talk about the Mets, and you can talk about the Islanders, and you could talk about your Joe Namath golf tournament, and your son and your daughter. The conversations with you and I don't revolve necessarily around Trump and China. And that's why it's entertaining, because it's unpredictable. And the only way you have great success in this business, no matter what, is a level of unpredictability. That's what we've got.

O'REILLY And you know, we're going to see the Mets in the middle of the month and...

ROSENBERG I'm excited.

O'REILLY I have called Mr. Met a communist. I didn't call him a cockroach though, I'm warming up for that.

ROSENBERG I did, but that was a whole other controversy I started here. I actually had to become a Yankee band and now I got Steve Cohen, the owner of the Mets, begging me to come to Shea Stadium.

O'REILLY And there's a reason for that.

ROSENBERG There is.

O'REILLY But anyway, Mr. Met embraced, what, Mamdani's wife or something?

ROSENBERG No. It was Mr. And Mrs. Met that embraced Mamdani. His wife wasn't there. So, I went to City Field last year and I have the video to prove it. And I'm trying to get a picture of Mr. Met. Bill, he's running down the hall, running down hall. I'm like, Mr. Met, it's Sid. He ran down the hall, no picture, no video, nothing. I've got a picture me like this and Mr. Met about 15 feet in front of me. Mamdani shows up, Mr. And Mrs. Met, it was like a threesome. It was almost porn, it was gross. They weren't just shaking his hand, they were hugging, they were kissing.

O'REILLY I know.

ROSENBERG So I go on Twitter that night and I go, oh my God, look at this video. Mr. Met is an anti-Semite. This went nuts. This was as bad as me calling the mayor a cockroach. Millions and millions of people. And then I called Randy Levine of the Yankees, the president of the Yankees. And I said, Randy, next Sunday, I'm gonna be 59 years old. I've been a diehard Met man since the day I was born. I'm coming to you. He said, guess what. You got four legend seats to my next game. I'm gonna send you a whole box of stuff. You can wear all the Yankee stuff you want. We're happy to have you. Sure enough, the next day at my house in Queens, big box, Thurman Munson, Wedgie Jackson, Derek Jeter, I got an Aaron Judge jersey. I show up that Wednesday night, Yankees Angels, wearing a judge jersey on WFAN right before, sitting with the president of the Yankees, and ever since then, about two and a half weeks ago, I am now a Yankee fan.

O'REILLY We'll get you back. I mean, I root for both teams. I'm one of the few people who can do that, but I have legacy on on both teams.

ROSENBERG Well, you got involved in this because...

O'REILLY I got involved.

ROSENBERG Right, because you are the guy that introduced me to Steve Cohen a couple of times.

O'REILLY I mean, I want a detente on this one. But I am standing by my statement that Mr. Met is a communist. I don't know about Mrs. Met, I don't really care about her and that you know, if I run into him, it might be trouble.

ROSENBERG Oh good! Between the two of us that night, it could be a lot of...

O'REILLY Sid Rosenberg, everyone. Okay. Thanks for coming on. This was a lot of fun. And thanks for being so honest. It's gonna help a lot people who need help.

ROSENBERG Well, I will say this. I'm glad you said that because it goes back a bit in this episode, but I really I tried to kill myself twice. I thought for sure my life was never going to amount to anything. So at the very least, as to what Bill just said, if you do watch this and you are struggling right now, take it from a guy that knows. You can do this. Step one, just admit you're powerless. Turn your life over to something bigger than you, go for help, and you could end up just like this. I promise.

O'REILLY All right, and Ava is the linchpin for you.

ROSENBERG I have a beautiful little boy, too, who's about to go to college, but my 22-year-old daughter has saved my life.

O'REILLY Where's Gabe going?

ROSENBERG We're hoping University of Florida. Yeah, Gator, you know that state very well.

O'REILLY I do indeed. You got to watch out for the... Not just the Gators, there's a lot of critters.

ROSENBERG Yeah, a lot of critters.

O'REILLY There are critters in Gainesville.

ROSENBERG Big bugs?

O'REILLY Yep, giant bugs. They'll move in, by the way. Bugs will move in and won't pay any rent. I'm not going to use the word cockroach. All right. Sid Rosenberg, everyone. There he is.

ROSENBERG Thank you.

O'REILLY We'll see you on the radio.

ROSENBERG I can't wait.

Killing Time with Sid Rosenberg

2026-04-30T16:00:00Z

The conversation continues on Zohran Mamdani becoming mayor, President Trump, and the New York Mets.

Trump vs. Disney, Is Hatred Contagious?

2026-04-30T14:19:00Z

Trump vs. Comey

2026-04-30T07:44:00Z

It might be better if you didn’t invite former FBI chief James Comey to the beach this summer. Comey’s “shell game” of messaging negative things about President Trump has gotten him indicted on two counts of threatening a Chief Executive. Using shells. On a beach. Not joshing you.

The first charges against Comey were thrown out by a federal judge in Virginia, where Comey lives. Now the case has been moved to North Carolina, the site of the beach. If they keep going with this, Comey and the jury will be wearing snorkel gear.

Comey is a poltroon and probably deserves all the grief. He fed bad stuff about President Trump to The New York Times using a friend who works at Columbia University as the messenger. Then he told a Congressional Committee that he didn’t do that. But the friend says he did do that. I believe the friend.

Anyway, Mr. Trump does not like Comey. The President probably knows the case is weak, but will bring some grief to the ex-Bureau guy. Defending yourself in federal court costs substantial cash.

There is no truth that a new movie, “Beach Party Comey,” is in production. That wouldn’t be right. Comey is likely to walk.

Shells or no shells.

Truculent

2026-04-30T00:57:00Z

[truc·u·lent] eager or quick to argue or fight; aggressively defiant.

The War Between Trump and Disney, Is Hatred Contagious? Dr. Anna Lembke on the Effects of Violence on Social Media & James Comey Indicted Again

2026-04-29T22:00:00Z

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Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks down why the FCC is now looking into Disney programs, including The View and Jimmy Kimmel.
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Why former FBI Director James Comey has been indicted again and whether Bill thinks he will be convicted.
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The War Between Trump and Disney, Is Hatred Contagious? Dr. Anna Lembke on the Effects of Violence on Social Media & James Comey Indicted Again

2026-04-29T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, April 29th, 2026. Stand up for your country. Here's a key question. Is hatred a contagion? Well, it was in the American Civil War. It certainly was in Nazi Germany. Now, today, in America, because of social media, because of the culture, with the progressive left and the far right, is contagion a word we should apply to the violence that we saw on Saturday night and the other two assassination attempts on President Trump. So we're going to get into that very important question. Talking Points Memo, here comes the heat directed at the Walt Disney Company. So President Trump has clearly had enough of Jimmy Kimmel, who can blame him? And Kimmel goes on every night and, under the guise of comedy, hates President Trump and anybody associated with President Trump. And I use the word hate literally. I cut Kimmel slack, and you may remember this on the foolish statement he made that MAGA was involved with the Charlie Kirk assassination. And I said, ah, you know, maybe people, maybe he made a mistake, you know, people make mistakes. I cut him some slack. I was wrong to do that because it was a pattern of behavior we were watching. And the hatred when you're trying to tie in a group of people had nothing to do with Mr. Kirk's demise. If you're trying to say that they did have something to do, that's hatred. And so I have to not apologize, but correct the record. Jimmy Kimmel is a hater. That's what he does. And we have the same atmosphere at a lesser level on The View, both shows run by the Walt Disney Company.

So the FCC announced yesterday, that's the Federal Communications Commission, that it is looking into whether The View is really a legitimate news program. Of course, it's not. Anybody who watches it for five minutes knows that's not a news program. They make no attempt to cover the news. But they're looking at it under the guise of punishing Walt Disney Company. The FCC has also told Disney that they have to submit to an early broadcast license renewal. So the Disney company owns stations outright in New York City, in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Chicago, Houston, Raleigh-Durham, and Fresno, California. So in order for those stations to operate, they have to get government approval, so Disney has to submit a bunch of stuff. Now, all of this is because of Jimmy Kimmel. None of this would be happening. And as I said, when you're the president of the United States, and you've got somebody gunning, and I hate to use that terrible pun, but it's true, for you every night and backed up by one of the largest corporations in America, you gotta take that seriously. So the head of the FCC is a guy named Brendan Carr. And here's what he said about The View yesterday.

"Well, we have an investigation going on right now into The View, and we've raised serious questions with them. They are asserting that The View is, what the statute calls a bona fide news program. And if you're a bona fide news program under the law, you actually don't have to comply with the equal time requirements. So they're asserting that they're Bonafide news just like, I don't know, Meet the Press used to be or something like that. There's obviously questions that have been raised about whether they are in fact Bonafide news. And we've asked them to file a petition at the FCC to try to get some clarification on that. And we'll see where that goes."

Okay, it's not going to go anywhere. This is just socking it to an old 60s expression, the Disney company. The courts will protect Disney. And even though The View is not a news program, they're going to, ah, so what? Now Jimmy Kimmel himself is very arrogant and unrepentant and continues to attack both Trumps on his television program. Here's what he said last night. Go.

"My wonderful mother, Mary McLeod, she came to America at 19, met my incredible father. We loved him so much. We all loved him. We loved her, we loved him, Fred. And they were married for 63 years. And excuse me if you don't mind, that's a record we won't be able to match, darling. I'm sorry. Just not gonna work out that way."

"Wait a minute. Did he just make a joke about his death?"

Okay, so Kimmel, as you probably know, made a joke a few days before the shooter showed up in DC on Saturday night about Melania Trump being a widow. All right. Now, I'm not going to get into a debate about what Kimmel says or what President Trump says. It doesn't matter. What does matter is the hatred that is on display. Now I did some investigating, as I told you guys I would. Why Disney has not cut Kimmel loose because of, and I said this on the Hannity program, radio program today. Look, if a conservative commentator or pundit or comedian or anybody is doing what Kimmel is doing, they're gone. Everybody knows it. They couldn't survive. But apparently, CAA and a number of other talent agencies in Hollywood have told the Disney Company, if you mess with Jim, we're not going to give you any of our actors, or directors, or writers, and all talent will go away from the Disney Company as far as filmmaking is concerned and television. That's the threat. That's what keeps Kimmel in his job. Also, the National Religious Broadcaster Organization, NRB, filed a complaint against Disney. Here's what it says, quote, "When influential voices joke about death or treat political opponents as disposable, it contributes to a culture where violence feels thinkable to the already unstable. National platforms carry real weight, and with that comes responsibility. That's why this warranted action. "So the National Religious Broadcasters Association is international evangelical people and there are religious stations all over the place. So summing up, Disney is gonna feel it. Doesn't look to me like they're gonna cave Disney, but I'll tell you what, gonna cost them maybe a billion dollars to defend, and, you know, because President Trump's not going to back away from this. And Kimmel will just go on doing what Kimmel does, selling hatred, and that's the memo.

Now the question we teased at the top of the broadcast, is violence on social media and in the pop culture a contagion? Does it spread? So, this guy in Washington on Saturday wrote this manifesto, actually quoting from social media and popular culture in some of the hate-Trump stuff that he put in there. It was Victor Davis Hansen has a column on it, a very good column, good research by the doctor. And you could see it, so the guy is on there on these hate sites. He's taking stuff off to justify trying to kill the president of the United States. Joining us now from Stanford, California, is Dr. Anna Lembke, professor of psychiatry at Stanford and author of the book, The Official Dopamine Nation Workbook: Practical Guide of Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence. So I don't know whether you've discussed this in your classes, doctor, but it seems to me that there is a bit of you know, some people call it imitation, or they get frazzled or wound up by reading all of this hate stuff, and it's not just about President Trump, either, a whole bunch of other people in that. And then they act out on it. How common do you think that is?

"Well, we are deeply social creatures, and we base much of our behavior on mimicry, which is to say copying other people and what they're doing. And we've known for a long time that violence is contagious in the sense that when people see other people committing violent acts, they are more likely to commit violent acts themselves. Social media spreads these types of ideas at a very massive scale, and there's growing evidence to show that the kind of violence that people see online not only normalizes highly convenient behavior but also induces individuals to commit similar acts of violence."

And I guess you see that with looting, right? So a few looters go out, they kick in the doors, and then everybody watches, can I get away with this? And they run in, and they do the same thing. But on social media, it's protected by the First Amendment. So there's nothing anybody can do about it unless you directly threaten someone, and Kimmel has not done that to the president. But certainly, he whips up hate every night on his program, but he's a small timer. This stuff gets out on social media, but not a lot of people watch it. Would you say he's a major factor in the spread of this kind of stuff?

"I think the issue there is that under the guise of comedy, we allow a lot of types of speech that we wouldn't allow, you know, during sort of other types of discourse. But what's happened with comedians of late is that they've become virtually political pundits. So this line between sort of journalism, political punditry, and comedy is really blurred. And Jimmy Kimmel hides behind being a comedian when he's making hate speech, but then emerges from his comedian stance when he is making different types of political commentary. And I think that's really the issue."

As a psychiatrist, a medical doctor, you just said what Kimmel is doing is hate. Now his supporters will deny that, and he denies it himself. And so does Disney. Oh, no, this is satire. So people get confused. I mean, is it satire? Is this something normal? Should we accept this? And then what do you say to them?

"You know, no matter what he says about what his nominal role is as a comedian, the fact of the matter is that survey reports show that a growing number of Americans, especially young Americans, get their news from social media and comedians. So he is de facto a political influencer and functioning as a journalist. And so, I don't think we can any longer let them hide behind the excuse of being comedians."

But he's got protections of the First Amendment and his company, Disney. He's protected because now, as I said, the talent agencies in Los Angeles have stepped up and said, don't touch him, or you know, you Disney are gonna suffer. And it's like, it's a brawl. The other thing I wanna talk to you about is the overwhelming power of social media now. Not just about young people. If you go to any restaurant, I'm sure you've seen this out in Stanford, doctor, where there's a family of five sitting around and don't talk to each other, they're all on the phone until their entree comes. Even then, they eat, and then they're looking at the phone. And it's almost, I know you're an expert in addiction on the social media thing, but when you are spending so much time and investing in the information that you can't possibly, okay, confirm, that's gotta do damage to you too, right?

"Oh, absolutely. I mean, there's very clear evidence that the more time that individuals spend on social media, the more likely they are to experience depression, anxiety, eating disorders, suicidal ideation, self-harm, cyberbullying, sexploitation. I mean, the list really is endless. And the medium has been engineered to be addictive. And part of what makes it addictive is the algorithm. That feeds ever more extreme content in the form of extreme violence, extreme outrage, extreme hatred. What's happened is that we're no longer getting content because the content is being usurped by the medium itself, which is so reinforcing that people are staying on it much longer than is healthy for them and far beyond the point when they're actually getting any valuable content or learning, or even social connection, which is the nominal intention of social media."

Do you believe that the social media problem that we have has risen to the level of disorder? That you have a social disorder if you're addicted to the net?

"I mean, what I see in clinical care and what the research shows is that much of the mental health, many of the mental health issues which are growing now, especially among young people, are related to excessive use of social media. And that's this kind of polarization and extremism and normalization of behavior is contributed to by social media."

Okay, so let's get specific. So we got this guy in DC, and he had no shot, pardon my stupid pun, he had no chance to get to the president of the United States because I was there, and you had to get down an escalator, and the escalator was man top and bottom and he did not have any chance of getting into that room and assassinating the president of the United States. Yet, he gave up his entire life, wrote a stupid manifesto that actually quotes, as I said, from social media postings and from the Jimmy Kimmels of the world. He actually takes their lines in justifying what he's trying to do, but he was willing to give up his whole life. I mean, he's never gonna get out of prison for, I don't know, a fantasy? I don't know what it is, is it He's such a big hater, he's compelled to do it? You know, I'm a rational guy, a linear guy, I'm not gonna, you knew you couldn't do it, why did you even bother?

"Yeah, I mean, you know, as a psychiatrist, I can't make a diagnosis on somebody I haven't directly examined. But I think what is very common is that somebody who starts out with a mental health disorder or is mentally fragile or is traumatized or in some kind of emotional distress, you know, goes on to a social media platform for distraction, for comfort, for like-minded thinkers. And can very quickly get caught in this echo chamber where delusional beliefs, that is, beliefs that are not consistent with reality, are validated in this echo chamber on social media, thereby accelerating the mental health conditions such that individuals then act out in ways that are hurtful to others, hurtful themselves, and simply not rational, because they're not operating with reality testing. I mean, you know, any of us caught in the echo chamber of our own thoughts would be vulnerable to distortion and delusion. Part of the way that we maintain clarity is by getting real feedback from the people around us, say hey that's crazy. You know, or why are you thinking like that, or those are not our values, or what whatever it is. But people who are not to other people in real life who give them some kind of real feedback and curb these sorts of, you know, let's say mentally unwell tendencies, but rather go into the echo chamber of social media and have those validated. That's where I think you get the escalation of this distorted, irrational thoughts that then lead to irrational behaviors."

So, final question, so many unstable, violent people, the tendencies of violence are getting worse because they're using social media. Do I have that right?

"That is the concern, the people most vulnerable to being harmed by social media are people who themselves are mentally unwell to begin with. And that is their engagement with social media actually makes their mental health disorder worse."

Would you put the haters on television in the same category?

"What I think is happening with, let's say, haters on television is that when we experience an emotion at the same time that many other people are experiencing an emotion, whether it's joy or outrage or hatred, that is highly reinforcing for our mammalian brain, that release of dopamine and the reward pathway feels good. So I think. We're having this experience of collective rage and outrage online, which simply feels good, independent of whether or not the reason, the nominal reason for their outrage is justified. So it's kind of an acceleration loop. And I think people can genuinely find comfort and reinforcement in that collective outrage. That's that again, they lose touch with their values, come decently taught with basic civil..."

Yeah, there's no restraint. So a guy like Kimmel brings comfort to people who hate Trump anyway, and then a few of them act out on that. I'm not gonna blame Jimmy Kimmel for what happened on Saturday or the other two assassination attempts. That will be unfair, but he is a hater, and he is contributing to this. So, doctor, thanks very much. We learned a lot. The book is The Official Dopamine Nation Workbook. You might wanna check it out, and get up to speed on how the social media is affecting this country. Appreciate it, Doc.

Here's a surprise poll that the media ignored totally, as far as I could see. Harvard-Harris, all right, about 3,000 Americans. First question, do you think the country's on the right track or is it off the wrong track? Right track, 37, wrong track, 53. That would not be good for Republicans in the midterms. Second question: Do you disapprove of the job Trump is doing as president? Approve 42, disapprove 53. That's a better number than most of the other polls are throwing out there. Next question, Do you approve of the way the Republican party is handling his job? This is Congress. Okay, disapproved 55, approved 45. And the Democratic Party handling. Approved 43, disapproved 57. Now that's a higher number than the Republicans. So Democrats, they're not gonna coast. Final question: Do you think Trump is a better or worse president than Joe Biden? It's 50-50, okay? And I neglected the first question. It was if the vote were held today, would you be likely to vote for Republicans or Democrats? 50-50, the same with Biden and Trump. So don't believe all the polls, don't get them crazy. As we pointed out, the Democratic Party's got beaucoup problems here.

But this is more worries for the grand old party, the GOP. This is a Gallup poll just out, 1,001 US adults. Right now, do you think your financial situation as a whole is getting better or worse? Getting worse, 55, getting better, 34. Is very serious for the Republicans, very serious. That's why Barack Obama got elected, just remember that. Second question: What's the most important financial problem facing your family? High cost of living, inflation, 31%, energy costs, 13, cost of owning or renting a home, 13. Health costs, eight, lack of money, low wages, seven. So it's the essentials of life. Now, if the Iran conflict or war, whatever you want to call it, is settled, and it's got to be settled pretty soon, then oil prices will die. And that'll change the economic situation in the USA. Now, I told you on April 22nd recently that all of us were being gouged at the gas pump. And I had a couple of letters. I always get letters defending the oil companies. And I've been doing this a long time. Trust me on this. They're gouging us. They're charging as much as they can charge. America has a lot of oil. We don't need the oil from Iran. Yet our prices are going up crazy. I said to one of the letter writers this. Go.

"Daniel Gallagher, Manhattan Beach, California, with the increased gas prices, do we think oil companies are going to make increased profits? Yes, we do, Daniel, okay. Then he goes on to ask, how do we determine it? You just, you'll see, they have to issue quarterly reports, the oil companies, you'll see, compared to last year, how much profit they make. They're gouging the hell out of us. I mean, that's not unusual for them, it's what they do.

Okay, so BP, which is a multinational company based in London, has released its quarterly and their profits doubled, okay? So the first quarter of this year, they earned 3.2 billion, okay, and that was up 100% from the last quarter of '25. There you go. You gotta trust me on these things, and all the other oil companies are gouging us too. Doesn't matter where you go. Now, what I do, because it's not about money for me. I just get crazed about, because I know what the oil companies are doing. So now I'm calculating where I'm driving. And I've cut it down a good 40% in the last three weeks. So if I don't have, I've actually taken the train, okay? Just because I don't wanna give them my money. All right, King Charles is doing a good job. He gave a very, very positive speech yesterday. Go.

"Standing here today, it is hard not to feel the weight of history on my shoulder because the modern relationship between our two nations and our own peoples spans not merely 250 years but over four centuries. It is extraordinary to think that I am the 19th in our line of sovereigns to study with daily attention the affairs of America. So I come here today with the highest respect for the United States Congress, this citadel of democracy created to represent the voice of all American people to advance sacred rights and freedoms."

Just excellent, just excellent. And what he's talking about is before we overthrew King George, and you can read all about that in my book, Killing England. Britain ruled the waves around the New World. The French were up north in Canada. The Spanish were down south in New Orleans, Florida. But the main line were British subjects, and they were in Virginia and in Boston. And they were there way before the colonists organized. I kind of like Charles. I think he, voice of sanity in London, and I'm going to London soon, tell you all about it. Not good over there. All right. Former FBI chief James Comey indicted for the second time. Two counts, one of making threats against the president, one of transmitting a threat across state lines. He's being charged in the Eastern District of North Carolina. He's not going to get convicted. There's no way in the world. This is just giving him a hard time. All right. And Comey, it's hard to feel any sympathy for that man. He absolutely tried to undermine his boss, Donald Trump, no question in my mind about it. But this is the second time, and it'll get thrown out, and I don't know why they're bothering.

Dr. David Morens, I never heard of him, and you didn't either, right? He was Fauci's senior advisor in the COVID years, 78 years old, Chester, Maryland. Alright, he's been charged with conspiracy against the United States, destruction, alteration, falsification of records, and federal investigations. Okay, what he allegedly did, and we are due process people here, is that he did not tell the truth about research from Wuhan, where the COVID virus developed in China. He didn't tell the truth. In addition, he received some money from Wuhan from the Chinese...a little bit more here. Now, if he flips, they're after Fauci, Justice Department, testifies about Fauci, then you've got a big story.

Smart life. So, how many people in the world wanna move to the USA? We still lead the league, okay? This is according to a Gallup poll. 15% of adults worldwide last year chose the USA as their top destination should they move. That's down nine points. However, so this is not a good thing as far as our perception. It is a good thing for the country on migration. Enough. We need to process who we have here already. Thank you, Joe Biden. Don't need an influx of people coming here now. I understand that corporations need certain type of labor and those green cards should be issued. Now here is the chart. So the United States leads the world, and people wantin' to come here. 15%, okay? Canada, 9%. Germany, 5%. Australia, 4. Spain, 4, France, 4, UK, 4, Japan, 4, Italy, 3, Saudi Arabia, 3. Okay, that is the developing world, as they say. Now Ireland and Switzerland are not on the list. They would be on my list. So if I got booted out of here, say Newsom gets elected, and I got a really good column on Newsom on Sunday, and say I'm deported, then it's either Ireland or Switzerland for me. Okay, I've got to measure it.

All right, very special birthday. Art Leish, 106 years old on Friday, May Day. Hellcat fighter in World War II. Art is in Colorado. He's not the oldest man in the country, but he's close. So Art, I know you're a big fan, and we wish you the best birthday ever. You've got a whole bunch of good people around you. 106 years old. This day in history, April 29th, 1992, Rodney King police officers, horrible story, okay, were acquitted. So Rodney King was a drug addict, alcoholic, pulled over by the cops, and they beat the hell out of him, and it was all on videotape. Somebody in their apartment building shot it all. And then the LAPD charged Mr. King with felony evading because he was trying to get away from the beating, as any human being would, and the charges were dropped. So, because of the videotape, everybody thought the four cops involved with this would be convicted. No, they weren't. Within hours, riots broke out in Los Angeles. And they were the worst disturbances in American history. I was there. So 63 people killed, 2,400 injured, 1.8 billion in damage, and it lasted six days. And I'm standing there, I was doing a stand-up for a show called Inside Edition, and somebody threw a brick and hit my cameraman with the brick, a brick! So it was intense. Now, we trace down the cops who were acquitted. Sergeant Stacy Koon, K-O-O-N, still lives in the LA area. Wrote a book in '92. Lawrence Powell lives in San Diego. Theodore Brizano lives in Illinois. Timothy Wind moved to Indiana to attend law school. So they basically essentially disappeared all of them, but they got off, and they should not have gotten off. No doubt about it. Okay, we got a lot of mail on the Saturday fracas in Washington, and you get a whole bunch of other stuff to tell you about. We'll be right back.

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Let's go to the mail. Lester Tuttle, Farmington, Missouri. "I thought the interview by Norah O'Donnell in 60 Minutes was fair, but I'm wondering why you don't feel reading parts of the manifesto was needed. Does this go to the shooter's state of mind?" It goes to defamatory. It's defamatory. You don't do that, Lester. If you want to produce the manifestos outside of an interview with President Trump, you can do that. But you don't sit there and read unverified garbage to anybody. That's not journalism. Horrible.

Mike Buzanovich, Wheeling, West Virginia. "Kimmel isn't particularly funny, especially about Charlie Kirk and Mrs. Trump. He's a comedian, however. Our non-comedic president is guilty of inflammatory comments about John McCain, Rob Reiner, and Robert Mueller, as well as others." Yes, but it's a defensive play. So if you were accused of being Putin's puppet, if you are impeached two times on bogus charges, if you were dragged into Manhattan on the most ridiculous cases I've ever seen, okay, made-up laws, you'd be a little testy. Okay, let me tell you, Donald Trump doesn't care at all about Jimmy Kimmel. He'd never even mentioned the guy's name if he wasn't such a hater. So there's no equivalency there, in my opinion.

Ivan Needy, Winchester, Virginia. "Why isn't an attempted murder of an SS agent one of the charges?" Look, all of this stuff is going to be out there. So you're asking me to give you information I just don't have. But how many shots were fired, who fired them, additional charges, all of that's coming.

Fred Apochmit, Cincinnati, Ohio. "Hey Bill, thanks for the inside baseball on a White House correspondent's dinner. Looking over the shooter's manifesto, seems like much of the material could have been lifted from the mainstream media. To me, that says the educated man was trying to carry out their wishes." I don't think there's any doubt about it that this guy dialed into the hate on social media and on. TV and radio. I don't think there's any doubt. He dialed right into that.

Pamela Hamarowicz, Whitesboro, New York. "While I agree that Kim Wisconsin joking about Trump are not funny, is not funny. I believe Greg Gutfield was equally cruel in his nightly comments." Okay, don't watch him. Don't watch him. I mean, I'm not watching this stuff. I told you a million times, I'm not wasting my time. Any of it. As I was with Piers Morgan in London today, and he's asking me about all his social media, I said, it means nothing. It means nothing. They're trying to make money. You guys just push it on out there, make it easier for them to make money.

Steve Dobette. "Kimmel's production company is represented by CAA. He has a deep relationship with them. CAA represents many of the top talent in the entertainment business, and it has told Disney they won't do business with the company if they do anything against Kimmel. That's absolutely true. And I reported earlier, but I just wanted to reinforce, Steve, that you had the story.

Daniel Rothier, Boston. "Glad you and your son are unharmed from the incident at the correspondent dinner. Seems like President Trump's tariff policies aren't talked about much, giving the never-ending news cycle to the administration." Look, the Supreme Court ruled that the tariffs are not constitutional. So now we'll see how that ruling plays out. Again, you guys want instant, instant, everything instant. I'm on it. Okay, I'm also wearing my hat, my 250 America, because it's patriotic. 250, okay, and it's the best hat you'll ever see. So we want you to get that. And it's a, it's renewal time for Premium and Concierge Members for BillOReilly.com. Don't forget, you get a free book if you renew, signed book in some cases. So let's go. Word of the Day: do not be truculent, I love that word. T-R-U-C-U-L-E-N-T. Back with the We'll Do It Live promo.

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Final thought tonight. We're interviewing Sid Rosenberg, who's the most successful radio guy in New York City. He's on We'll Do It Live. Now, if you don't know him. He came up under Don Imus. I'm sure you know that name, Imus, okay? And he became very successful, Rosenberg, off doing the Imus program. So we talked about that a little. Go.

"There was a rule, Bill, you could never look at Imus. Not kidding you. Who, who couldn't? None of the employees at WMAN were allowed to look at him."

"What?"

"The newsroom employees, not Mike and the mad dog and the talent, but the newsroom employees were not allowed to look at him."

"So the techs and people like that?"

"That's right. So he'd walk into the newsroom, and everybody would look down."

"Was there any explanation of why you couldn't look at Imus?"

"Well, he was he wasn't a handsome man, so that was what was part of it.".

"Right, it wasn't a drawback.".

"Like Medusa, you know, but he was just that intimidating, that it was a kind of a non-written rule, don't look at him."

And that is a good interview. You'll learn a lot from that. So we'll drop it tomorrow, Thursday at noon, for Premium and Concierge Members. You get it first. And then eight o'clock for the six o'clock for the whole world. It's on YouTube. It is our long form. We'll Do It Live. We hope you check it out. And thank you for watching the No Spin News tonight. My column on Sunday will include a letter from Gavin Newsom demanding that I, your humble correspondent, be taken off the air. Wait until you see this. Well, I hope you read the column, and we'll see you again on Monday.

Marc Beckman on the First Lady Speaking Out

2026-04-29T20:06:00Z

Marc Beckman, senior advisor to First Lady Melania Trump and CEO of DMA United, joins the No Spin News to discuss Melania’s response to Jimmy Kimmel and whether Disney will respond or ignore the controversy.

Should Disney Fire Jimmy Kimmel?

2026-04-29T16:04:00Z

Bill breaks down Jimmy Kimmel’s latest remarks about Melania Trump and his past anti-Trump comments.

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Midterm Voters Split

2026-04-29T07:20:00Z

A new Harris/Harvard poll says Americans are split 50/50 over the midterm vote. Obviously, that’s bad news for the Democratic Party, which thought it had President Trump and the Republicans on the ropes due to the Iran conflict and higher prices for consumers.

The poll, in my opinion, reflects more about the lack of leadership on the left than it does about the President’s policies.

Putting the anti-Trump vote aside, what exactly are Dems selling to the American people? Here’s a partial rundown.

- The left doesn’t want to confront Iran.

- Generally favors Hamas over Israeli forces.

- Wants higher personal and corporate taxes. Especially a wealth tax, which is a seizure of private property.

- Favors even more government spending on entitlements despite the $40 trillion debt.

- Supports amnesty for migrants not convicted of violent crimes in America.

- Wants to defund ICE and border enforcement.

- Objects to military action against drug smugglers.

- Supports homeless people living in public spaces.

That’s a tough list to swallow for non-ideological voters and provides a shield to republicans who are facing higher prices for the essentials of life.

So, anything could happen come next November. Could be a close one.

Snollygoster

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Should Disney Fire Jimmy Kimmel?, Marc Beckman on the First Lady Speaking Out & President Trump Alleges Iran Is Near Bankruptcy

2026-04-28T22:00:00Z

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Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks down Jimmy Kimmel’s latest remarks about Melania Trump and his past anti-Trump comments.
Marc Beckman, senior advisor to First Lady Melania Trump and CEO of DMA United, joins the No Spin News to discuss Melania’s response to Jimmy Kimmel and whether Disney will respond or ignore the controversy.
Should the U.S. end birthright citizenship? Bill reviews the latest polling.
The latest on Iran: President Trump claims the country is in a state of collapse, while German Chancellor Friedrich Merz says Iran is humiliating the U.S.
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Should Disney Fire Jimmy Kimmel?, Marc Beckman on the First Lady Speaking Out & President Trump Alleges Iran Is Near Bankruptcy

2026-04-28T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, April 28th, 2026. Stand up for your country. Well, nation's still buzzing, as you would expect, about the third assassination attempt on President Trump in Washington on Saturday night. We went over this. I was there. Go to BillOReilly.com. I've got everything you could want about the story. If you're confused, and I don't blame you if you are confused, go to BillOReilly.com, we will sort it out. But emerging out of this story is hate speech. That is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. Now, you may remember that in September of last year, Jimmy Kimmel said that MAGA people were partially responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. It was an outrageous comment, a stupid comment, foolish comment. I gave Kimmel some slack. And I did so because everybody makes mistakes. I've been doing this 50 years. I've made mistakes. So I said, look, the guy probably didn't think it out. I'm not asking for him to resign. I'm asking for Disney to do anything other than to speak with the man. And tamp it down. I thought that was a reasonable approach. I was wrong. Okay, Kimmel does not deserve the platform. He is a hater, he peddles hate.

Now, a few points. So if a conservative individual were hosting a late night show, a morning show, whatever show on a network, and they attack Barack Obama every day in a personal way. You think that person will be working there? On all three of them. That person would not be working there. Now, I'm not using bad behavior to point to other bad behavior. I'm telling you the reality of the show business world. But Kimmel is an ardent leftist. We had Rob Schneider on We'll Do It Live, and I said, what happened to Kimmel? Because I know Kimmel, and at one time he was a decent guy, a funny guy, and he's no longer. And Schneider said it's his wife. That his wife is such a fanatical leftist and hates Trump so much that Kimmel is feeding off that. I don't know whether that's true or not. That's what Rob said on the record. So that's number one. This could only happen under a very liberal corporation, and that is the Walt Disney Company, based in Burbank, California. That's what they are. And to back it up, you got The View. They could fix The View, that's not hard. It's bringing a couple of moderate women to sit on the panel. Is that that hard? No, it's a hate fest. It's not as bad as Kimmel, but it's close. We hate Trump every day, every way. All right, so now Kimmel says on April 23rd of this month, he says that Melania Trump, quote, "will be an expectant widow." It was a, he was doing a gag, expectant, widow. This was before Saturday, a couple of days before, okay? So now Kimmel is under a microscope again. That's pretty damning to say that, when the president has already been the assassination of him twice. Again, Kimmel's not smart enough, in my opinion, to understand what he's saying, he's not smart enough. Kimmel doesn't know. Now, Kimmel's posture has changed a bit. Go.

"It was a pretend roast. I said our first lady Melania is here, look at her, so beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow, which- obviously, was a joke about their age difference and the look of joy we see on her face every time they're together. It was a very light roast joke about the fact that he's almost 80 and she's younger than I am. It was not... By any stretch of the definition, a call to assassination, and they know that. I've been very vocal for many years, speaking out against gun violence in particular, but I understand that the First Lady had a stressful experience over the weekend, and probably every weekend is pretty stressful in that house. And also, I agree that hateful and violent rhetoric is something we should reject."

No, he agrees now, reject hatred, hateful rhetoric. Boy, what a conversion, huh? Okay, February 6th, 2025. Go.

"Of all the unbelievable things about Donald Trump, religious people believing he is also a religious person might be the toughest one to understand. I mean, if... Honestly. If Trump met Jesus, he'd call him a loser, he'd tell him to get a haircut and put a shirt on."

And I could give you, what, 50 more? On Barron Trump's birthday, Kimmel attacked the kid. Nineteen. This isn't hateful rhetoric, Jim. No, it's satire. According to George Clooney, oh, satire. Go.

"The people that I support, the Democrats, I'm a Democrat, I make no apologies for it. The people I support Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, they didn't enjoy getting chased down by reporters. People in power don't like to have to answer all the questions in the world. That's fair. They shouldn't enjoy it."

Nah, I went a bunch of bull, all right? Clooney told me that I was too rough on Obama, and Obama was president, and I should back off. You know, a bunch of phonies. Okay, and because I had that big to do with Clooney. Jane Fonda's popped up, okay? Her group is a free speech group. All right, the Committee for the First Amendment issued this. Quote, "In America, satire is not a crime, right? To mock, to challenge, and yes, to offend those empowers foundational democracy. From late-night television, political cartoons, comedy, long served as a powerful tool to expose hypocrisy, provoke debate, and drive accountability." Oh, sure, Jane, right, okay. But if it's your people, it's a little bit different, isn't it? Because I have a letter signed by Gavin Newsom, his mayor of San Francisco, demanding Fox take me off the air. And I am going to print that letter in Sunday's column, okay, on BillOReilly.com. So this is all nonsense. It's all, we hate Trump, and we'll just find a way to hate him more, and you're not gonna stop us from hating him. Economically, this has burned ABC News and the Disney company. Stock is way down. Everybody else in the Fortune 500 is way up. Now I'm going to give you those stats in our YouTube bonus. I just don't want to overload here, but the stats are amazing. How much Disney has suffered. You can't tell me that part of that is because of The View and Kimmel's hate. People are tired of it. So the truth is, Disney is really the one, the big villain here. Kimmel, not smart enough, right? The View, they don't care, they're getting a paycheck. It's Disney. And that's the memo.

Joining us now from New York City is Mark Beckman. He's a senior advisor to First Lady Melania Trump. He's the CEO of DMA United, which is a representative agency, does a lot of different things, and he's the producer of the film Melania, which many of you have seen. So we appreciate you coming on, Mr. Beckman. I wanted to know, under President Trump, Melania the First Lady has taken a lot of abuse for five years. And now she felt the need to go after Kimmel. Did you advise her to do that? Why did she do that?

"Well, first of all, the first lady really is in control. She drives her own ship. We collaborate at the top, but this was entirely her decision. And I think it's important to her because she realizes that we're living in a time period where simple rhetoric has, it becomes detrimental. It's creating a situation, Bill, over and over again, where the country is being divided, and insane people are listening to this divisive rhetoric, and as a result, they're trying to kill people, and they are killing people. So it's not just the three assassination attempts on her husband, the president of the United States, but look at Charlie Kirk. So we're living in a time period where words matter, and she wanted to come out and make her point very clear that it's no okay."

Now, I know her a little bit, very methodical woman, not emotional in particular, doesn't like the limelight, doesn't like to be the center of attention. So she chose this moment and I was in the room and I saw her and she was much more affected by what was happening, in my opinion, than President Trump. I mean, she was just appalled by it. Did you get that feeling when you spoke with her?

"I spoke with her that night, and I want to tell you, she was not frightened. She was very much in control and, in fact, was the first one, I think, in the room to realize what was happening. She went under the table following the proper procedure, and from underneath she was telling her peers on the table, including her husband, come on under, you got a duck, you've got a duck and then she got out. Fortunately, she was safe. She wasn't frightened, but she does understand, Bill, that being First Lady today, being First Lady, the wife of President Trump, comes with some inherent risk. Some violence is now connecting to our political ecosystem. She's aware of that, but mainly, Bill, what she told me is that she was so happy that not just her and her husband were safe, but everyone in the room was okay. They were all safe, and that was really what was important to her."

Okay, but the look on her face when I saw her was one of disdain, and then she transferred that quickly to Jimmy Kimmel. Now you could go, Ladies of the View, you could the Senator from Connecticut, Murphy. You could go to a bunch of congresspeople who are as hateful as Kimmel is, but she locked in on him. Why?

"Well, I think it's time for Kimmel to go. This is not an isolated incident. I don't understand why ABC gives him cover and the parent company, Disney. This hateful, violent political rhetoric has happened over and over and over again from Kimmel for months and months, and it's not okay. It's time to stop. ABC permits his point of view, this, this terrible rhetoric, to go into the homes of Americans across the country, into our living rooms, across the country every single night. And there's no logic to it. He's not funny. His viewership is down, his ratings are down, and it's been publicly shared that his business model is failing. What I think, Bill, is that there's a problem with the entire Democrat ecosystem. They still monopolize culture, as I'm sure you would agree. They own entertainment, media, sports, government, politics, but they're all creating the same political device of rhetoric over and over again. Fascism, Nazis, the anti-Semitism, they're spewing language our way. And the Wall Street Journal bill just yesterday reported that for the first time, there's more violence, physical violence going from the left to the right now, from the Left to the Right. This trend has got to stop. Think about it, Bill. How did this teacher on the other side of the country become so cuckoo that he bought a small arsenal of weapons, got on a train, went transversed across the country, checked into the hotel with the specific goal of killing our president and members of the cabinet? He's hearing all of this over and over again, as so many people are, and we need to pay attention to it, and we need to think about ABC as well."

Well, ABC's profits are down, as you may know. Stock price is 96 approximately, and it's almost a 30% drop. And its ad revenue is down, it's down across the board. Not just for Kimmel and The View, but just their products in general. And they had that crazy movie, Snow White, the live thing. Big, big bomb. When you'd think the opposite, cause kids and all that. Disney is paying a fiscal price for this kind of display. But then the question becomes, why? Why are you doing that? You've been in the business, Mark, long enough to know, companies wanna make money. And if you're not making money for them, you're done. But they'll-

"I'm sorry to interrupt you, Bill, but like, I agree with you. Why are they hitching to this Democrat, this Democrat vile, right, and it just goes on and on and it doesn't make sense."

It doesn't make fiscal sense. However, Disney is an ardently left-wing company full of woke, as you know, probably, in Burbank, California. They despise Donald Trump. But now his wife is in it and makes the whole thing more sensitive for women, American women, because they certainly can identify with their husband being shot at three times. And then, Melania, that's why I think she did this because she wanted to get this out there that this isn't the norm, it's not what we do in America here, yet the cycle continues because of people like Kimmel. That's what I read into this whole thing.

"Bill, think about this. So take your concept a little further. You're talking about the Democrat Party dehumanizing the Republicans, right? So what Melania Trump is saying is effectively, I am a mother, I am a wife, I am a daughter. All of my peers who are Republicans are the same. And we should not dehumanize these individuals. And we shouldn't normalize this type of rhetoric and this type violence. Enough is enough."

But it took her a really long time to get to enough. And that I think is because of her personality, which is not confrontational. Would I be wrong?

"Well, Bill, with all due respect, I want to tell you that if you go back in time and look at the book and all, shortly after the first assassination attempt, she was very vocal about it. And she spoke about this negative rhetoric. At the time, remember, Biden and members of his administration were maligning President Trump over and over and again. And it was that negative rhetoric that I think for the first time caught her attention. And she was vocal about it.

"Okay, but this is the first time that she's actually called for a specific person to be punished, which is Kimmel. Do you believe Disney is going to respond to this or ignore it?"

"I say no, and I think it's because of what you stated. They're just a woke left organization with a political agenda. I don't know why they should be thinking about the entire country, left and right. We like to be entertained. There doesn't need to be an ideology attached to it."

So you don't think that Disney will take any action against Kimmel at all.

"I'd be shocked. They're gonna hide behind the First Amendment. And I think it's a commercial issue here, Bill. And I should also look at the advertisers. I can't believe I'm saying this because I was against the whole cancelation moment in time during Me Too. But look at companies that are advertising. Why do they want to be affiliated with someone like Kimmel? It makes no sense."

Well, it's true. I'm not a boycotter either. But people should notice because if they are angry about it and have had enough, then that's a way to punish Disney, is to tell the sponsors, we're not going to buy your stuff because we don't believe in the product you're sponsoring. Very simple equation. But millions of Americans would have to take time to do that. And I I don't know if they will.

"Unfortunately, I agree. I agree."

One further thing about Melania Trump. I always got the sense that being a first lady, I mean, she knows it's, and you can see it today with the British royal family. She knows how to make people comfortable. She's very good at the job, but I never felt that she loved the job. You know, there's certain first ladies in history just couldn't get enough of being first lady. Jill Biden is the poster girl for that. Jill Biden, you had to drag her out of that house, that White House, okay? I never got the feeling that Melania Trump was all that thrilled about all of this, there's danger, there's pomp, there're circumstances, stress, there's, on and on. Would I be wrong in saying that?

"Bill, she's very proud to be first lady of the United States. And if you look at what she put herself out to do in March alone, I'm sure you and your viewers will agree she's the first First Lady in the history of the United Nations to address the Security Council when America took the presidency. Her famous speech now spoke about peace through education, tolerance through wisdom. Later on in the month, she assembled almost 50 nations in the State Department with some of the best American tech companies to launch her Fostering the Future Together global coalition. There were companies that came out, including Meta, Google, Adobe, Palantir, X, all of the best companies. And on the next day, in the White House. It was, she was the first First Lady to have so many nations join a First Lady for diplomacy purposes ever before in history. This was the day when she brought out the humanoid, and it was further with the mission. It was to further her mission of empowering children through technology and education. This First Lady, Bill, has had so many achievements, but the people aren't looking at it. Think about it. Four reunifications between Ukrainian and Russian children and families. She set up a network for foster care kids across the nation, now that's in 33% of the states. She's not an elected official. She does not have to do any of this, yet she keeps building and building and building. In fact, today, Fostering the Future Together stood up with some of the presidential AI state champions that she led on at the White House tennis pavilion, which she built during 45. And the Queen participated in this cross-cultural educational platform in both VR and AI. People need to know more about what our first lady is doing."

There's a lot of coverage, that's for sure, on that because the companies are almost fearful of hating her. I mean, they'll go after her, but they don't want to hate her like they are with the president. So, Mark, we really appreciate your time. Thanks very much, and I hope we can talk again soon.

"It's such an honor, Bill. Congratulations with you and all your success, and truly, I'm so grateful to be here with you today."

Any time, Mark. So let's go to the courts now. We have a Supreme Court case about birthright citizenship. You probably are familiar with that. If you give birth to a baby on American soil, that baby becomes a citizen automatically. And that was put in because slaves in the Civil War, it's an easy history. I said in the very beginning, the Trump administration's not gonna be able to change that. It's going to stay. The Supreme Court is going to rule. It's gonna stay in the Constitution. Here is a Reuters poll about it. Should the U.S. End birthright citizenship? Republicans, yes. 62, no 36. Democrats, yes, 9%. No, 90%. Independents, yes 26%. No, 66%. And so it is a majority of 64% of Americans of all parties believe that should stick. Iran latest, President Trump says they're going bankrupt over there, who knows? I don't know. You don't, I don't t know if anybody knows. But there's going to be another proposal from the mullahs, am I optimistic, no. But they can't sell anything, they can sell steel, they can't sell oil. Inflation in Iran is 50 percent. So the strategy looks to me like USA and Israel will try to bankrupt them. And what that means is that people won't have enough to eat. And when you're paying 50% more for supper, things are gonna get a little testy over there. That's where my analysis is lying, laying. Lying would not be the right word. Laying.

Germany. I don't know what's wrong with them. So the chancellor is Friedrich Merz, M-E-R-Z. And Merz has not been a good partner in NATO to the USA, you know that. So Germany's the biggest economy, most powerful nation in the EU. And Merz, he doesn't like the Iran war, but he won't answer any questions about why he doesn't like it. He talked to a bunch of people, students, on April 27th, yesterday. Go.

"Fair is, as I said, ill-considered, to say the least. At the moment, I cannot see what strategic exit the Americans are now opting for, especially as the Iranians are obviously negotiating very skillfully, or rather very skillfully not negotiating, and letting the Americans travel to Islamabad only to leave again without any results. An entire nation is being humiliated by the Iranian state leadership, particularly through these so-called Revolutionary Guards."

So, according to Merz a certified dunderhead, we're being humiliated by Iran. No, that's not what's happening. We are restrained. We could be doing a tremendous amount of damage to everybody in the country, not humiliate. Now, the mystery here is Germany doesn't seem to have any interest in whether Iran gets a nuclear weapon or not. Doesn't care. But in Ukraine, Germany's like, oh, yeah, you've got to give us billions of dollars so we can prop up the anti-Putin forces. Okay, I'm for that. I support NATO's quest against Putin. But Iran, at this point in history, more dangerous than Putin. But Frederick doesn't quite understand that, doesn't quite get it. Not unusual.

China. So China stayed very quiet with the Iranian situation, but they're in a controversy with the EU, and that's good for the United States. So Europe unveiled a made-in-Europe strategy not to buy cheap foreign goods. Beijing doesn't like that at all and says it might retaliate. I don't know how it retaliates, but they might. So there's a brawl going on between Beijing and Europe. This is good for the USA, because we don't want to be embroiled in all these controversies unless our adversaries, Putin and China, are taking it on the chin too. That's a very under-reported story. So is this, Mexico. So on April 25th, last Saturday, two American CIA agents were killed in Mexico in a car crash. They were investigating a drug lab in northern Mexico, the state of Chihuahua. Sheinbaum, the socialist president of Mexico, said she didn't know anything about these people being in the country. And the reason she didn't was because the Mexican government is so corrupt that if they get wind that Americans are investigating drug trafficking, they tell the cartels for money. That's why, but Sheinebaum has got to play to her far left base. Roll it.

"In the statement to the ambassador and the government of the United States, what we essentially say is that we are working in very good coordination based on the understanding we reached with respect for the sovereignty of both countries, and they agree with that understanding. So what we told them is that the federal government was not aware of the involvement of these people. And we hope this was an exceptional case."

You know, very tough with Mexico. It's so corrupt down there. And the drug problem continues to vex the United States. It's not like it's gotten much better. It hasn't. All right, Senator Grassley of Iowa has released 12 pages damning the Clinton Foundation. Numerous allegations of foreign influence that arose from speaking fees and donations to the Clinton Foundation, that's to the Clintons themselves. As I told you, they fly on private jets, they go all over the world raising money, but they kind of live off their foundation. Now the Justice Department, the FBI is looking at that. Prince Charles is in town, Lady Camilla, and they're trying to heal up the breach between the UK and the USA, as I reported yesterday. Nothing big. Nothing big. Trump said nice things about them, what you would expect from a diplomatic thing. Smart life, 61% of American pet owners say that pets are very expensive. This comes from Lending Tree, 2,000 consumers, average pet cost, $1,750 a year. Okay, the pets are 43% of US households own at least one dog, 33 one cat, and then there's fish and all that. But you wanna get a pet, make sure you can care for the pet, very expensive. This Day in History, April 28th, 1881, Billy the Kid, okay, AKA William Bonney, was going to be sanctioned when he escaped from prison. There he is, what a dude, huh? Well, Billy the Kid, real name Henry McCarty, was a thug, murderer, thief. And he ran around the West, and some newspapers wrote about him, got very famous. He's been in 150 films, Billy The Kid. And that's why you heard the name. Anyway, he escaped prison, prison, jail. I mean, it was nothing back then. And a couple of times after murdering people, and finally was shot dead by Sheriff Pat Garrett. So, Billy the Kid's first escape happened in Lincoln County in New Mexico, 145 years ago today. We have a mail segment, lively, and final thought. We'll be right back.

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Okay, here is the Final Thought of the day. Now thinking back on the third assassination attempt, Saturday, I was there and a lot of things swirling around. Obviously, we went over the hate speech, Kimmel, ABC, Disney stuff. This evening and all the other stuff, should the event have been held there, is the secret service, all of that. It'll sort itself out. Okay, we'll start to get a pretty specific timeline, and what happened, so I'm not worried about that. I still want to know how many shots were fired, who fired them, and whether the CIA guy who was hit in the chest was friendly fire. Not everybody should want to know that but even if it was friendly fire, I mean you had a guy racing around in the lobby So it's understandable. I don't think there's going to be any more of those events in any more hotels I can almost guarantee that. And I hope the federal judges, rule that we can have this ballroom at the White House.

Somebody asked me about parking. I said, there's no parking at the White House. You get invited there, you go there, you walk, you have an Uber drop you off a couple of blocks away, and you go in. There's no parking. I love that. Now the whole incident, I'm sure, has rattled, as we reported earlier, Melania Trump. Talked to the president myself, and he's a pretty strong guy. And he also knows that he benefits a bit here because these kinds of situations, in the mind of most Americans, not haters and not crazy ideologues, but most Americans, all right, they humanize, it's important for people to understand, that they humanize whoever is involved with it. So Charlie Kirk is the best example of that. I mean, a lot of people didn't like him, and they didn't really know much about him, but he's assassinated. And then people start to look at him as a human being, not as some kind of demon the social media flayed every time they could. I don't expect that to happen with President Trump, but I do expect some people to step back and say, you know, enough's enough here. So he's the president. He got 77 million votes. You like some of the things he does, some of the things we don't like. But his term is, youk now, he's got about three years left, a little less. And we don't t want to hate him, and we want to put an end to this. That helps Donald Trump and gives him some clarity as a person. And usually you don't get that. What you get is the spin. You get the White House spokespeople that come out and they tell you X, Y, and Z, and it's like, okay. And then you get the social media.

But here, President Trump then becomes a person again. And that is important for him because he sees himself not as a traditional president. He sees himself as a cliche alert, a game changer. Trying to change a lot of things in this country in a very short period of time. And the more people understand why he's doing what he's doing, the better it will be for him. And so there'll be a number of Americans that pull back from the hatred because of the shooting in Washington. That's a fairly complicated political analysis. I understand you're not gonna get that at cable news, but it's true. You know, I have a lot of people I know, tons of people, I'd say I know thousands of people, and a lot of them don't like Donald Trump. But none of them are celebrating the fact that we were shot at three times, and Butler, Pennsylvania, this close. Okay, they pull back. And these are all decent people. I don't hang around with fanatics or crazy people, and they don't get inside my orbit at all. I don't want to hear from them. You got your own troubles. You deal with them. If I can help, I'll help, but you know, if you're gonna be a Jimmy Kimmel fan, bye. Okay, it's not worth it for me to get involved with that. But I think Kimmel himself underestimates now what's gonna happen to him and Disney. It's not going away.

And is it important that Donald Trump does get the status of a human being? Yes, it is. I mean, that's what I brought to my coverage of Barack Obama. He was demonized all over the place by conservatives. And I go, it's not quite as laid out as you thought. I mean, I dealt with this last night on News Nation on the Pavlich show. I mean, she was all over with Barack Obama for the statement, and I said, well, it was just a mealy-mouthed statement. He's just saying he doesn't know whether this was organized or whatever. It didn't bother me. Okay, but here is what did bother me, the 60 Minutes thing was crazy. And I hope that ends. Thank you for watching and listening to the No Spin News. We'll see you again tomorrow.

O'Reilly & Mark Simone on the Jimmy Kimmel Dustup

2026-04-28T19:30:00Z

Bill joins Mark Simone and blasts Disney for allowing Trump-hating Jimmy Kimmel to remain on the air. Bill accuses the late night host of being in business not to entertain, but to damage the administration.

Bill O'Reilly Talks Jimmy Kimmel and the WHCA Dinner with Katie Pavlich

2026-04-28T16:00:00Z

Bill joins NewsNation's Katie Pavlich to discuss what happened Sunday night at the WHCA dinner and Jimmy Kimmel's future.

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Rep. Mike Lawler on Political Violence in America

2026-04-28T15:58:00Z

Rep. Mike Lawler (R-NY) joins the No Spin News to share his experience at the dinner and social media’s political influence in fueling division in our politics.

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Correspondents' Dinner CHAOS

2026-04-28T15:57:00Z

Bill recaps his experience at Saturday’s White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, and the media’s poor coverage of the situation.

O'Reilly on Media Reaction to Another Assassination Attempt with 'Cats & Cosby'

2026-04-28T14:55:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Rita Cosby and John Catsimatidis with his first-hand account of Saturday night’s White House Correspondents Dinner. He also accuses CBS’s Nora O’Donnell and other media types of journalistic malpractice.

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Kimmel Under Fire Again

2026-04-28T07:52:00Z

It is high noon for Disney and Jimmy Kimmel. The late-night host is being battered for saying Melania Trump will be a “widow” a few days before the third assassination attempt on the President.

Once a witty guy, Mr. Kimmel is now a hater. He’s not a comic or a satirist or anything else. He uses Disney’s airtime to routinely attack and demean President Trump.

The Walt Disney Company knows this. Therefore, it is primarily responsible for Kimmel’s behavior. Both Melania and Donald Trump have written letters to the company asking for sanctions against Kimmel. I predict he will be furloughed soon.

But that should have happened years ago. The Magic Kingdom doesn’t sell wholesome entertainment anymore; it peddles destructive hatred. It is comfortable battering the office of the Presidency.

No way you can justify that. And Americans should understand the seriousness of it. Disney is finished as a positive force in this country.

Thank you, Jimmy Kimmel.

Vexation

2026-04-28T01:47:00Z

[vex·a·tion] the state of being annoyed, frustrated, or worried, or something that causes these feelings.

Correspondents' Dinner CHAOS: Bill Describes the Scene, the Media's Shooting Reaction, & Rep. Mike Lawler on Political Violence in America

2026-04-27T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, April 27th, 2026. Stand up for your country. Well, what did I do this weekend? If you traveled to BillOReilly.com, you'd know, and that is the place where any breaking news is. So if you want to waste your time, we'll prove it to you tonight, if you wanna waste your time watching cable news and the others, it's up to you, okay? But you're not going to get the story. I was right in the middle of this thing on Saturday night, and that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. So let me set the stage for you. 2,000 people in the ballroom at the Washington Hilton. That's where Ronald Reagan almost lost his life. I wrote a book, Killing Reagan, some of you might have read it. It's about my fifth Correspondents' Dinner, the first one I took Donald Trump. And that's where all of this stuff between Obama and Trump, where it happened, okay? And so over the years, I know the drill. And I was never uneasy in that ballroom, and this year I would not have gone, but my son said, please take me, because he's a political science major, obviously wants to see what's going on. So we went and sat at the News Nation table, and for some reason, I was in the back of the ballroom. I think I'm just coming back from the men's room, and all of a sudden I hear four shots, loud. So I'm in the back of the ballroom. There's a door that was open, and then there's an escalator that takes you up to the main floor of the hotel. So the ballroom's packed, as I said, 2,000 in there. So, I'm standing right here, boom, boom, boom, four. Everybody hits the ground except me, and President Trump We're the only guys now. My son is under the table. I just leaned under, I go, how is it under there? He goes, you're gonna get shot in the head dad and I said look if they haven't gotten me after 50 years, they're not gonna get me And then my son had the line of the evening goes I didn't know you were taking me to basic training. Because everybody knew that this was an assassination attempt, the Secret Service, I would say 20, 30 seconds after the shots stormed through the door where I was, ran down the aisle and covered the president. So everybody knew that there were bad things afoot, as Sherlock Holmes once said.

Now, as a normal human being, I should have hit the turf, but I had to see what was going on. It was my job. I have to see. So I'm there, and I'm watching everything that's unfolding. And luckily for me, a marshal, a U.S. Marshal was at the door with an earpiece on, and he was a fan of mine, which always helps. So right after the Secret Service went in, I said to him, you know what's going on? And he briefed me. He said, there's a fracas upstairs. There were shots fired, what we know now, which I didn't know then, was that the shooter fired twice from a pistol. And Secret Service fired two or three shots. Very unusual because if you shoot at a federal officer, which this guy did in the lobby of the hotel, you're usually dead within five seconds. So it was unusual. So I assume that because there was so many people that the Secret Service is taking measures. So they brought him to the ground quickly. You saw the picture of him laying on the ground. And then they had to decide what was going to happen next. President Trump didn't really want to leave because he doesn't like to show weakness of any kind. He doesn't want to be intimidated. This is the third assassination on the man, attempt. But they had to leave, and I and I understood everybody really understood that there was so much chaos swirling around. Now, after that, I then swung into my job, which is to get information, and we quickly established that this guy had taken a train from Chicago to DC, checked into the hotel. He had a hotel room. There are 3,000, okay, people who can be lodged in the Washington Hilton, 3,000. And then you had 2,000 visitors, that's 5,000 people, far too many. Far too many people. But you wouldn't know it coming in because there were stations everywhere. Here's the key point. The shooter could never have gotten even close to the president. Because he had to come down an escalator, which was manned, then go through a door where I was, and the marshals, and then run down a long corridor, if you want to make it that way, but picture it in your mind, a long space, before he could get into any kind of shooting range. So that was never a problem. What was a problem that people were close to the shooter. They were diving all over the place, as I said, normal people would do.

The people close to the president, they didn't hear the shots. I tell you, they were loud. I mean, I knew right away because I've heard gunfire in my life, and my son is an avid a gun enthusiast, I mean, he hunts all the time, he knew what it was, we knew. And they were loud, as I said. But the people in the other half of the room had no idea what was taking place. When they saw all the federal protection run down, then they knew something was wrong. Okay, now this guy Cole Allen, 31 years old, as I wrote on BillOReilly.com, it's just unbelievable. This guy will never, ever see freedom again, ever. In addition to destroying his own life, and he had no shot at this, pardon the pun, none. He destroys the life of his family. His family's got to deal with this their whole lives. So this guy's a loon, and then he writes up this crazy thing, a manifesto of why he's doing it, and it just makes no sense at all. The guy in the bushes in Palm Beach was a loon. The guy on the rooftop who got killed in Butler, Pennsylvania, was a loan. They're all in the same category. They just don't have control over themselves. And throughout our history, these have been the profile of all the assassins, the presidential assassins. All of them. From John Wilkes Booth onward. They're just crazy, insane people, and that's what he is, but he'll never ever get out. So he's been charged with trying to assassinate the president and other charges, but that's the big one and Janine Pirro who we have on our long form she is part of the prosecution, but the attorney general, Todd Blanche, taking this over.

Okay, then we have reaction. This is another fascinating story. So I'm there, and I'm giving information to News Nation through Kelly Myers, who is a very, very good correspondent. She's the top News Nation Washington correspondent. And I'm given her what I have, because I don't want to hotshot it, okay? That's her beat. Let her do it. At the same time, CNN is misreporting what happened. Roll the tape.

"All right, guys, I just want you to know this is not verified. We're just listening to what's happening right now. But we have security around us, and it's the Secret Service, because there's a lot of members of the administration here. The Secretary of Education is seated right next to me. And her security just said, confirm that there was a shooter in the lobby. It's not clear where. Obviously, it's a very big hotel. In the lobby of the Hilton, they said he is confirmed dead. We don't know anything more than that."

But he wasn't dead, okay? Now, I'm trying to be fair to Ms. Collins. She's a rookie. All right, she doesn't know, doesn't have the basics down. Just doesn't. Looks good on TV, can conduct an interview. She doesn't know what she's doing. You don't report a story like that. You don't, because that's what they call hearsay. She's got no valid source for that story other than some secretary of education. How would he know? Now, if you wanna mention it, you can say there's a rumor. You could say that, but you don't say, they said he is confirmed dead. Maybe they said it, but so what? It's wrong. It's wrong. Are we understanding that? Then, President Trump, not wanting to show any weakness, because he never does, he goes on 60 Minutes.

"You read that crap from some sick person. I got associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. But I said to myself, you know, I'll do this interview and they'll probably, I read the manifesto, you know, he's a sick person, you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things."

Yeah, O'Donnell had no cause to read the ramblings of a loon, none, yet she tried to humiliate the president of the United States, who was just attacked. And it was edited. There isn't one person in CBS who knows that. That's called gutter snipe reporting. That's what the National Enquirer does. Oh, look who said this about you. It's not true. Then why are you throwing it out there? You can't do that if you're a responsible journalist. You have to verify it. So the president was absolutely 100% correct in saying to Miss O'Donnell, who I know, okay, you should be ashamed of yourself, of reading that. And she should be, but she's not. I'm just doing my job. No, you're not! Talk about malpractice. My God. And now, another controversy is emerging today. Jimmy Kimmel is in the middle of this. So on Thursday, April 23rd, Kimmel said this.

"And of course, our first lady, Melania, is here. Look at Melania. So beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow. You know, Melania's birthday is on Sunday. That's right. She's planning to celebrate at home, the same way she always does, looking out a window and whispering, what have I done?"

All right, so the widow line is gonna haunt Kimmel. Disney's gotta get rid of him. So, Melania Trump, very rare, issued a response today saying, quote, "Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric is intended to divide our country. His monologue about my family as a comedy, his words are corrosive, deepens the political sickness within America. People like Kimmel shouldn't have the opportunity to enter our homes each evening to spread hate. A coward, Kimmel hides behind ABC because he knows the network will keep covering for him. Enough's enough, and it's time for ABC to take a stand. How many times will ABC's leadership enable Kimmel's atrocious behavior at the expense of our community?" Okay. Would I fire Kimmel if I were the head of ABC? Yes, I would. Yes, I would. It's not First Amendment issues. He's in it for the hate. Not a comedian any longer. So shortly after that, the president issued a social media. Quote, "I appreciate so many people are incensed by Kimmel's despicable call to violence. Normally would not be responsive to anything that he said, but this is something far beyond the pale. Jimmy Kimmel should be immediately fired by Disney and ABC. Thank you for your attention." Okay, so I expect that to happen. Now, if Disney defies, then their affiliates will drop Kimmel. Okay, they have to. I mean, these are mistakes, look the Kaitlin Collins mistake. She's a rookie. She doesn't know. The Norah O'Donnell, much more experienced was to make Trump look bad. But this? Kimmel? This is just hate. And then there's, Jamie Raskin, the congressman from Maryland, Democrat. One of the chief Trump haters on Capitol Hill. Here's what he said.

"I have no personal problem with Donald Trump at all. I mean, I talk about the policies of this administration, the authoritarianism like we saw on display in Minneapolis, where two of our citizens were gunned down in the streets simply for exercising their First Amendment rights. Renee Goode, Alex Pretti, and others who died in custody. I'm talking about policies. I don't personalize it. And I certainly have never called the press the enemy of the people."

So he's loathsome, and he's trying to virtue signal that Renee Goode and Alex Pretti were just gunned down. It's not that they disobeyed any kind of federal officer or they injected themselves into a very volatile situation. No. They were just gunned down. This is what this guy does, Raskin. That's who he is. That's what he does. He's not going to stop doing it. Now, political implications from this, the ballroom that the president wants to build will get a go-ahead. He's being sued by the National Trust for Historic Preservation about the project, which is all private money, and it will go forward, I predict, right here, because that's the solution. You have your own ballroom on White House grounds, and you don't have these security problems. And then the Secret Service isn't getting paid 73 days because the Democrats are holding up funding for Homeland Security. So that's gotta stop, obviously. You know, there's a whole bunch of things swirling around this terrible incident that happened on Saturday night. And I expect them to be resolved in President Trump's favor. So summing up, once again, I'm on the scene of a big story, my God. My career is unbelievable. We want you to try to get into your mind that BillOReilly.com does have accurate reporting. And then if you wanna know something, that is where you go first. Then you can backpedal into the other if you want, but I'm telling you, it has never been this bad. Journalism had never been as bad. And Disney is in major trouble with Kimmel. And that's the memo. Joining us now is Congressman Mike Lawler, who is at the dinner. He is a Republican from New York. All right, so what did you take away? Sorry for the cliche, but when you were thinking about the aftermath in your presence, where you were, what did you take away from it, Congressman?

"Well, my wife and I were in the middle of the room, and as you know, Bill, you can't move in that room once you're seated. And so it makes it a real challenge to get up and get around. And so what we heard was a pop and then a bunch of plates and trays falling to the ground, and then the Secret Service flooding into the room to secure the president. And ultimately get him, the vice president, the cabinet secretaries out of the room. And what we were left with was a lot of chaos and confusion, because you didn't know if somebody was actually in the room or whether or not there was an active threat. And as you pointed out, I mean, the reporting that was taking place from within the room was inaccurate in a lot of cases. And so it was hard to get the facts."

Okay, so how did your wife handle it? Was she panicked, or how'd she handle it?

"She was unnerved, and so, you know, obviously, I was concerned about her in that moment. We also have two young kids. We have a four-year-old and an 18-month-old, so your thoughts are on that, you know, in that type of situation. But you know, as we got more information and clarity, you know, everybody was in a calmer state, but it's still unnerving, especially when your spouse is there."

Sure, and you're not used to this kind of stuff unfolding right before your eyes. Do you see any political implications coming out of this?

"Look, the Secret Service did a very good job on the perimeter of the ballroom, obviously stopping the individual in his tracks and getting the president. But I do think there is a real problem with these types of large-scale events. There was no ID required to get in. There was no security really checking any list whatsoever to verify that somebody should be on the grounds. You had no magnetometers anywhere throughout the building except right outside the ballroom. And the fact that this gentleman was able to get from the 10th floor down a vacant stairwell to the ballroom area obviously is disconcerting. So I think, number one, how security is handled at these large-scale events needs to be reevaluated. And number two, to the point of the president, this is the third public attempt on his life. And I don't think people are taking it seriously enough. You know, I can tell you I'm very active in my district. I've done close to 2,000 events in person in district. I take my safety and security seriously because, frankly, people are unhinged today. And the fact that, you know, in this type of setting with 3,000 people in a ballroom, that, you know somebody was able to get within vicinity after you've already had two separate attempts on the president's life, I think it speaks to where and how these events take place and I do think it it justifies what the president is trying to do on the White House grounds. You could never get to the White House with a loaded gun, and that really is the point."

You can't vote against it now, and the judges will stop the nonsense, and they'll okay it, particularly because it doesn't cost the taxpayer anything. Do you, in your career, have you seen a change on the psyche of the American people from when you started, because there's always been, obviously, partisan hatred always in this country, until now? Have you seen it get worse?

"No question. You know, frankly, people don't even want to be in the room with people they disagree with. And it's sad. People seem to believe that political violence is the solution to political differences. And rather than engage in honest and robust debate and discussion and duke it out at the ballot box, they seem to believe the ends justify the means. And so I think it's a big problem that we are grappling with as a country. I think social media has been so destructive in our political discourse. People latch on to the quote-unquote influencers who are frankly grifting and fueling the rage in this country rather than actually engaged in thoughtful and honest debate. And that's really driving so much of this vitriol and hatred that we see, that has just permeated our politics."

It's not just them, though, it's like it's Raskin. You know Raskin, right?

"Oh, listen, some of my colleagues played to the worst of the American people, and listen, somebody like Eric Swalwell, you saw how fast he fell because he was an awful, awful person. And he, you know, lied repeatedly. Raskin has lied repeatedly. It doesn't help the American People, it doesn't serve our country or our body politics well. And frankly, there's people in Congress that are not serious, and they don't belong there."

All right. Congressman, we really appreciate it. I'm glad you and your wife, you know, are putting this behind you, because there is a residual to this kind of thing. People might not know that, but it just doesn't go away. I can tell you that from personal experience. But we appreciate your time tonight. If we can ever be of service, let us know, Congressman. Thank you. So one of the people I'm referring to is Erika Kirk, who was up there near the dais anyway, and here's what she said go

"I just want to go home."

Yeah, so husband Charlie Kirk, as everybody knows, assassinated, and you can imagine all those memories come flooding back, it's awful. We thought we had an Iran story for you, but once again, Axios, and this is the difference between me and the other journalist, so-called, there is no story. I mean, what Iran is doing. Is basically making it impossible for the Trump administration to make a deal with it. So I'm not going through it, it's just so stupid, but in the morning I got a flag from my producer saying it, some kind of deal in play, and I said, first thing I said, who's reporting it? Axios. Okay, so we're stalemated right now, okay? Let's hope, I think something's gonna happen soon though. I do. Putin got involved and says that he's gonna broker peace in the Middle East, thanks Vlad. Yeah, we appreciate that.

King Charles, Queen Camilla are here. And that'll make New York City a zoo. So they're not just here to parade around in their spiffy outfits. They're trying to mend the bad feeling between the British government and Washington, D.C., because of NATO. That's why they're here. And they'll be here till Thursday. And I know that President Trump likes King Charles. And that's, I hope they mend it. I mean, we need the UK as an ally here. Alright, Southern Poverty Law Center, another ridiculous story. So the Justice Department has charged it with wire fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy. What the allegations are, and they are just allegations, is that the Southern Poverty Law Center, a far, far left outfit, bribed people in far-right organizations to cause trouble. So that the Southern Poverty Law Center could come in and put out the flames. That's essentially it. Here's what Chuck Schumer said about it.

"Let's be clear what this case is really about. It has nothing to do with alleged wire fraud or with the Southern Poverty Law Center somehow working in coordination with the KKK. That's ridiculous on its faith. It doesn't pass the laugh test. It's about Donald Trump turning the Department of Justice into the Department of Vengeance, his own attack dog."

Well, how would Schumer know that? Did Schumer investigate it? Does he have agents that are compiling information? Talk about a laugh test. You know, it's humiliating. You don't know what happened, Senator, and you don't care what happened. As long as your team doesn't get put in a bad position. But it's not just on the left. The right's doing it too.

"When you come back to the fact that the Southern Poverty Law Center, viewed as the standard, cited by so many in the media as the standard on evaluating what groups are extremists, what are not, what groups aren't, and they're actually paying these informants to go inside these hate groups and foment more of it, that is just evil. That is just wrong."

So both Schumer and Jordan convicted the Southern Poverty Law Center without due process, because the Southern Poverty Law Center denies all this. You see where we're going here? Where's the due process here? You can say, Hey, this doesn't look good, or maybe put some of your staff on it to compile facts. But both Schumer and Jordan are fine with no due process. Smart life, I got a heartbreaking concierge email today. Guy loses $200,000 in Bitcoin. He sent it to a woman who said she wanted to marry him. Chinese woman. Now, I can't help the guy, the money's gone, okay? Bitcoin, there's no bank, there's a central point of transaction, there is nothing. So if you are gonna traffic in Bitcoin or cryptocurrency and it's a fraud and the fraud numbers are through the roof, okay, you're gonna lose your money. Now, I told the guy to file a complaint with the FBI, but the FBI's not gonna be able to track somebody over in Singapore or Taiwan or Beijing. It's gone. 200K. How many times have I said this? Guard your money. Smart life. Bruce Springsteen, as you know, he's using his concert as a political venue. Now Bruce is in trouble because of the attack on President Trump on Saturday night. So, pardon the terrible pun, Springsteen has changed his tune a bit. Go.

"We begin tonight with a prayer for our women in service overseas. We pray for their safe return. We also send out a courier of thanks that our president, nor anyone in the administration, nor anyone attending, was injured in last night's incident at the press correspondents' dinner. We can disagree, we can be critical of those in power, and we can peacefully fight for our beliefs, but there is no place in any way, shape, or form for political violence of any kind in our beloved United States."

So here's the kicker on this story. The far left is condemning Springsteen. Bruce, hey, might wanna check out your supporting level. You did the right thing there. You don't have any friends if you're not towing their line. This week in history, April 27th, 2010. Doesn't seem that long ago. Robert Downey Jr. Stars in the film Iron Man 2. Co-starring is me, your humble correspondent.

"When Mr. Stark announced he was indeed Iron Man, he was making a promise to America."

"No, the soup belongs to us."

"We trusted that he would look out for us.".

"Yes, but you're not...".

"Obviously, he did not.".

"Burt!".

"And now we learned that his...".

"Yes, it does!".

"...Secretary, a woman named Virginia Pepper Potts, has been appointed as ceo of Stark Industries. What are her qualifications?"

"No."

"Miss Potts is doing nothing to manage the situation.".

"No!"

Alright, when I ran into Downey, I told him I carried that movie. So all three Iron Man movies have grossed more than two billion dollars, okay? Iron Man 2 grossed 623 million worldwide. I am taking credit for some of that. So that movie debuted 10 years ago, no, 2010. So that was, oh, I'm gonna cry. 15 years ago, right? Oh my God. All right, we got a mail segment for you, and one of our most successful long-form podcasts performing very well. We'll give you a little taste of that as we come back.

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Debbie Seders, Mason City, Iowa. "Hey Bill, I dare any judge or Democrat to try to start the progress of the ballroom with its bullet-proof windows, missile-resistant steel columns, and drone-proof roofing. Had the event been held there, lives never would have happened." I think Debbie got lives wrong. But the incident on Saturday wouldn't have happened. I'm predicting that ballroom now, go ahead.

Mitchell Keller, Lakemore, Illinois. "Bill, happy to see you are okay." Thank you, Mitchell. "Not only another assassination attempt on Trump, but seeing the thousands of hateful comments toward the president all over social media even after the attempt." I know, stay away from those people. That's all the advice I can give you. Stay away.

On the message board, if you're a Premium or Concierge Member, you get our message boards free, of course. DeWitt. "Eventually, you'll figure out that political rhetoric and social media algorithms have exacerbated the problem by amplifying the worst aspects of human nature. In the meantime, politicians will spew hate because it's the best way to make money and get elected." I don't know if it's the best way, but it's certainly in certain areas, works, and that's disturbing.

Kurt. "I don't understand it. Why does Trump want to reschedule the dinner in 30 days?" Because he doesn't want to show weakness, doesn't wanna back down from a guy like that. That's the reason, although I don't think it's gonna happen.

Susan. "I thought President Trump had an agreement with the tech companies to stop the one-sided news presentation." He did? Where did that come from, Susan? There's a change of management at CBS, but there's no agreement. I hope you didn't hear that on cable. I'm being rough on cable, but they deserve it. They really deserve it, sorry.

Joel Breyer, Brooklyn, New York. "I love to read. I've come across your book, Confronting the Presidents, love the style. So much that I bought Confronting Evil. Then I went on to buy Killing the SS. Absolute thriller, loved it. Especially fascinating is the Eichmann story and the way you put it together. I'm finished that book now. Do you have any recommendations for my next two books? One that you authored and one that you like from somebody else." Killing Patton. I think you'll like that because it follows the pathway of Confronting Evil, and remember Robert Parker? These are novels, but they're easy to read, and boy, he's so good. The dialogue is just good. So, Robert Parker, anything by him, you like. Okay, you'll like our hats, 250 American flag. I'm putting together a little bash for the 4th of July myself. Everybody's gonna be required to wear the greatest hats ever. We hope you will delve into those on BillOReilly.com. Word of the Day: no vexation, V-E-X-A-T-I-O-N. No, we don't want you to be vexed in writing to us. Bil@BillOReilly.Com, Bill@BillOReilly.com, name and town if you wish to opine. Here's a final, no, I gotta break. I've got to take a very quick break. And our breaks are quick. We keep them that way. We'll be back in a moment.

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Okay, final thought of the day. My long-form interview with Jeanine Pirro, who is the district attorney in D.C., is next to Lindsey Graham, our biggest hit. Here's a bit of it.

"So you're sitting there at The Five, and you're making good money. It's a very successful program, and you get the call. Yeah. How long did it take you to say, I'm going to dump the TV thing, and I'm going to go with the public service."

"Didn't take me long at all. Let me explain something to you. Sometimes the most difficult decisions are not all that complicated. Because when he made that phone call to me..."

"He did personally."

"He called.".

"He called you."

"It was, it went right to my soul. This is who I am. This is how I wanna, you know, maybe end my career. Who knows? This is a job that I love. This is a job where I go in every day, and I can't wait to get there. I mean, I haven't even told you all the stuff we do. I'm the DA here. I'm a federal prosecutor. I do terrorism. I do civil cases. I do, I defend agencies. I go, I prosecute agents. I mean, this is a huge job, huge office that I had to turn around, Bill. It was a neglected office."

Okay, so that is, we'll do it live, our long-form podcast. It's up now, okay? And then for premium members, we give you a little bit more of the inside stuff. So I hope you check it out. And as the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, Janine is involved with the shooter on Saturday. She's involved with all of that. I've known her forever and very, you know, Jeanine and I get along very well. I want to thank everybody for your kind texts and emails about my son and myself at the dinner. Very nice of everyone to do that. There was never any danger to us, but I explained it, I think, pretty well at the top of the program, and, you know, my son learned a lot, that's for sure. But if he's going to get into politics, he's got to know it. And thank you very much for watching and listening to the No Spin News this evening. We'll see you again tomorrow.

Correspondents' Dinner CHAOS: Bill Describes the Scene, the Media's Shooting Reaction, & Rep. Mike Lawler on Political Violence in America

2026-04-27T22:00:00Z

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Talking Points Memo: Bill recaps his experience at Saturday’s White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, and the media’s poor coverage of the situation.
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O'Reilly & Sid Rosenberg on the Assassination Attempt

2026-04-27T18:44:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Sid Rosenberg and provides his eyewitness account of the chaos that erupted Saturday night in Washington. He also assesses the security lapses at the venue and the heroic actions of the Secret Service.

O'Reilly on Witnessing Saturday's DC Mayhem with Pete Mundo

2026-04-27T17:03:00Z

Bill begins the week with KCMO’s Pete Mundo and recounts what he saw and heard at Saturday night’s fateful White House Correspondents Dinner. He also analyzes the vitriol directed at the president and left-wing reactions to the assassination attempt.

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The Shooter

2026-04-27T16:56:00Z

The would-be assassin of President Trump Saturday night will never see freedom again. A 31-year-old teacher from California sacrifices his life for what? Attempting to murder the leader of the country?

The shots fired echoed close behind me. Everyone hit the floor, including my son, who is smarter than I am. I stayed airborne, knowing a crime was underway.

My job is to witness history. You can’t do that, chewing a carpet.

There had to be a thousand people in the ballroom. Not a very secure place, as there were guests staying at the hotel, the Washington Hilton. That’s where the shooter made his play, in a hotel room atop the ballroom.

Before the violence, one Secret Service guy was wounded. The media crowd was pretty much normal. I’ve been to a number of these dinners, and there was little difference in President Trump’s appearance despite his frequent press spats. Vice President Vance was almost ignored, and the President, himself, was greeted with polite applause. Most establishment journalists are wrapped up in themselves. They are not culture warriors.

We live in a violent country that is split politically. Loons can be affected by the media acrimony, no question. The shooter looks very unstable to me. He’ll have the rest of his life to think about it.

More on Monday’s No Spin News.

Jeanine Pirro on Trump, the Swamp, & Leaving Fox News

2026-04-27T13:09:00Z

It's Only Money

2026-04-26T07:00:00Z

Chances are conservative economist Stephen Moore will not be celebrating May Day. But socialists everywhere will be including Senator Elizabeth Warren, who may be a full-blown communist at this point.

This month, Ms. Warren introduced a wealth tax, and 50 of her fellow Democrats signed on. The proposed law would levy an annual 2 percent federal tax on those Americans holding at least $50 million in assets.

Like May Day, the tax would be an annual event with IRS agents adding up what you have and confiscating 2 percent of everything; cars, jewelry, paintings, houses, your collie, the list is endless. Every year. Everything.

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And don’t think you’re going to skidaddle to the Bahamas. On the way out of the USA, old Liz would impose a 40 percent “exit tax” on millionaires who try to leave.

“Hands up!” No plane ticket without the ransom.

According to Mr. Moore, high-tax liberal states like California and New York have lost more than one trillion dollars in income taxes due to high earners fleeing. That’s why Elizabeth Warren wants to make America an economic penitentiary. Want to leave? Fork it over.

Of course, all of this is unconstitutional until the Supreme Court becomes a progressive body. And it could. Confiscation of private property, which is what communism is, might have great appeal to the lady from the Bronx, Justice Sonia Sotomayor, and other progressive jurists. Liz Warren is just setting the table.

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As May Day approaches, it is important to understand that Communism has never worked anywhere unless guns are aimed. Stalin, Mao, Fidel, Ho Chi Minh, Little “Rocket Man,” and others were all locked and loaded when they secured power. So, symbolically, are Warren, Bernie Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez, and Mamdani.

They all want your stuff if you’ve achieved wealth. They hide behind class envy and financial ignorance. They are totalitarians gunning to control the entire economy of the United States. The government will decide what you can and can’t have, and where you can live. How Putinesque.

Hey, Liz, get out of my garage! You have no right to be there. And if you, yourself, want to depart the country, I’ll start a “GoFundMe” to help you. Shanghai is supposed to be very nice this time of year.

Cherry blossoms and secret police. You’ll love it there.

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Chaos at Correspondents' Dinner

2026-04-26T05:12:00Z

Bill has checked in from the White House Correspondents' Dinner, where he heard an "echo of gunshots," and President Trump, the First Lady, and others were escorted out.

He and other attendees are safe.

Below is President Trump's Truth Social posts on tonight's events.

Highlights from O'Reilly's No Spin News

2026-04-24T22:00:00Z

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Jeh Johnson & Bill O'Reilly on Conservatives, JFK, and More

2026-04-24T16:23:00Z

Former U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security under President Barack Obama, Jeh Johnson, filled in for Tavis Smiley and interviewed Bill about President Kennedy, President Reagan, Iran and more.

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Jeanine Pirro on We'll Do It LIVE!

2026-04-24T07:30:00Z

Hope you saw the long-form interview with Washington, D.C., U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro. It’s our latest episode of We’ll Do It LIVE!, posted and accessible on BillOReilly.com.

I’ve known the Judge for decades and was able to have her describe President Trump’s law enforcement vision, which has driven down both local and national crime. Mr. Trump, of course, gets little credit for that.

Jeanine is an interesting woman who doesn’t dance around. Straight talk. In addition to having a successful television career, I think we can now label her a patriot.

It is rare to do a political interview without some turbulence, but this one is informational, and I think you’ll learn a lot. Please let me know what you think.

Democrats Plumb the Depths

2026-04-24T07:09:00Z

The Afternoon Dispatch is written by BillOReilly.com staff.

Did you hear the one about the Michigan Democratic Party? Unfortunately, it's not a joke. The state’s Dems just nominated a fellow named Amir Makled to serve on the University of Michigan Board of Regents. The nominee has enthusiastically shared posts that praise the terror group Hezbollah and refer to Jews as ‘demons.’ Just imagine how comfortable Jewish students will feel knowing that a virulent anti-Semite will oversee their education.

Elsewhere in the Wolverine State, ultra-radical Abdul El-Sayed is running for the United States Senate and may well win the Democratic primary. He recently mocked Vice President JD Vance and his Indian-American wife, Usha, for having ‘brown kids.’ El-Sayed also proudly appeared alongside Hasan Piker, the popular and radical podcaster who said 'America deserved 9/11' and praised mass murderer Mao Zedong as a ‘great leader.’ It’s been pointed out that Abdul El-Sayed, as his rhetoric grows more unhinged, keeps rising in popularity among Democrats.

Elsewhere in the party, Senator Chris Murphy and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz paid a visit to a gathering of lefties in Spain, which has embraced anti-Americanism more than any other European nation. Ignoring the adage that ‘politics stops at the water’s edge,’ Murphy and Walz vied to see who could be the most despicable. The senator declared that President Trump is ‘trying to end our democracy,’ but the governor went beyond that.

‘We’ve got a feeble-minded, trigger-happy president,’ Walz screamed, adding the mandatory accusation that Donald Trump is a fascist. Don’t forget, these clowns did this while their nation is embroiled in a war that they seem to want the USA to lose. Exaggeration? Well, upon returning home, Senator Murphy came across a post claiming that Iranian ships had evaded the US naval blockade. His one-word response: ‘awesome.’ Murphy claimed he was engaging in ‘satire,’ but that rings as hollow as he is.

Put simply, the party of JFK and Bill Clinton has become unrecognizable, populated by the likes of Zohran Mamdani, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, and Jamie Raskin. The Congressional Progressive Caucus has nearly 100 members, all of them crazed to varying degrees. What about leadership? Top Dem Chuck Schumer went on the floor of the Senate to declare that FBI Director Kash Patel is a drunkard. Schumer was quoting from a hit piece in The Atlantic that relied solely on anonymous sources.

Democrats, once staunch supporters of Israel, have abandoned that nation as their constituents lean into Marxism and Islamism. Last week, 40 Senate Dems voted to block the sale of weapons to Israel, and things are going from atrocious to worse. The newest member of Congress is Democrat Analilia Mejia, winner of a special election in New Jersey. She accuses Israel of ‘genocide,’ demands the abolishment of ICE, and will fit right in with ‘The Squad.’ Hating Israel is now a badge of honor on that side of the aisle, and at least one prominent Jew has had enough. Famed lawyer Alan Dershowitz just announced that he is a registered Republican after 67 years as a Democrat. His rationale: ‘The hard left, anti-Israel wing of the Democratic Party has moved from the fringe to the mainstream.’

But most self-described ‘progressives’ are sticking with the Democrats, united largely by a hatred of Donald Trump that supersedes love of country and common sense. Many modern Democrats will follow their party off a cliff, which is precisely where it seems to be heading.

The views expressed in the Afternoon Dispatch are those of BillOReilly.com staff.

O'Reilly & Hannity on the President's Dilemma

2026-04-24T01:21:00Z

Bill and Sean Hannity analyze the challenges facing President Trump as he debates whether or not to order the destruction of Iranian power plants and other infrastructure. They debate the costs and benefits of wiping out much of Iran and its society.

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O'Reilly & Vittert on Where Iran Stands and Its Impact on the Midterms

2026-04-23T17:56:00Z

The Iran saga continues. Bill and Leland Vittert analyze the current situation on NewsNation.

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The Rising Economic Impact of the Iran War

2026-04-23T17:28:00Z

Bill continues covering Iran, including Trump’s announcement that Iran will NOT execute eight protesters as scheduled and the war’s economic impact.

O'Reilly & Sid Rosenberg on the Anti-Trump White House Press

2026-04-23T17:24:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Sid Rosenberg and looks ahead to his attendance at Saturday Night's White House Correspondent’s Dinner.

Killing Time with Jeanine Pirro

2026-04-23T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY Biden, who was a terrible president, and you don't have to endorse that, but I wrote a book, Confronting the Presidents. The guy was just staggeringly bad, didn't get any of this. Nobody was really trying to sabotage him until George Clooney popped up with a bottle of tequila.

PIRRO Yeah, at Obama's behest.

O'REILLY Maybe.

PIRRO Maybe? Okay.

O'REILLY Maybe. And the reason I say that is because I'm a due process guy.

PIRRO Okay.

O'REILLY Now, you're probably right on that, because it's inconceivable to me that Clooney would do anything on his own politically. You have to go to Obama, who's the most powerful person in the Democratic Party, who showed up this week with Mamdani, to sing to little kids, and what wasn't reported is all the little kids ran out the back door.

PIRRO I didn't know that. I didn't know that!

O'REILLY Let's get out of here. But anyway, Obama is a fascinating character. But you were right when you said that there wasn't the hatred, even on the right.

PIRRO No, we don't respond that way. We don't.

O'REILLY Toward Barack Obama. They didn't like him, but there wasn't anybody trying to destroy him.

PIRRO We didn't try to indict him, we didn't make up all kinds of stories about him. Look, you know as well as I do that when he first came in, first thing he did was he brought in the Muslim Brotherhood, went to Egypt and worked with the Muslim brotherhood. And it was like, we were all stunned, but did we say that there was some kind of conspiracy going on, or he's involved with the Muslims who hate the Americans and the infidels?

O'REILLY I actually scolded him on my live Super Bowl interview. I scolded him for doing that on my interview with the Super Bowl. I go, hey, what is this? Let's wrap the interview with a perspective. So you go from television fame and fortune into public service, right? You do it because you were... Some inner voice or something said this is the right thing for me, Jeanine Pirro, to do. Am I correct there? Do I have that there? Because like Greg Gutfeld, I'm a little slow on the uptake sometime. Okay, so it was a personal decision that this is a right thing to do. Doesn't have anything to do with Donald Trump, doesn't have anything to do...has everything to do with Jeanine Pirro.

PIRRO It had to do with Donald Trump. I mean there's no question if someone else had asked me I might not have done it.

O'REILLY Really?

PIRRO Yeah, because I was so convinced that the president and I were on the same page as it relates to law and order. I don't know where it was I think the WAPO did an article years ago.

O'REILLY That's Washington Post.

PIRRO Yeah, Washington Post did an article, the judge who speaks Trump's language, something like that. And it's true, because whenever he spoke, it was, I said to myself, I could have said that you know.

O'REILLY All right, so you're simpatico with him, and that mattered.

PIRRO That definitely mattered to me.

O'REILLY Okay, so you show up, not an easy adjustment.

PIRRO No.

O'REILLY Because you had a cushy life in New York and the cocker spaniels are looking at you going...

PIRRO Standard poodles.

O'REILLY Okay, whatever they are looking at you're going where are you? What's going on here?

PIRRO Yeah.

O’REILLY That was tough. All right, and then you do a toll adjustment of being a pundit to being a prosecutor, which may sound easy, but it's not. It's a whole different discipline.

PIRRO I work, I don't know, 14, 15 hours a day. I mean, I'll be...

O'REILLY Is that how much you work?

PIRRO Yeah.

O'REILLY And you look good. I mean...

PIRRO Thank you.

O'REILLY You don't have spa time?

PIRRO I haven't been to a spa in a year. But the truth is that I'm energized by this job. The truth is, that I'll go home and, you know, Tim Lauer, who worked in Fox, who's in charge of my press here. You know, he'll call me at 11 o'clock at night because the press is calling him at 11 o'clock at night. You know, if we work around the clock and it's okay. If there's a homicide, the Capitol Museum homicide when I first got here, where the two young people got shot and killed, you know, Milgrim and Lischinsky by the shooter, Rodriguez, who came from Chicago, Illinois. I was out there in the middle of the night with the mayor as they took the bodies off the street. You know what I found out, Bill? That the AUSA is the Assistant U.S. Attorneys, they don't go out on homicides. I said, what? You don't out on a homi- No, we can't. We can't get involved. I said that all changes. You're going out on the homicides, I'll go out on a homicide.

O'REILLY Why did they say they couldn't go out on it?

PIRRO Because I told you it was a neglected office. Nobody pushed them. Nobody pushed in the fight to get in there and you fight with the defense and the public defenders. And the judge and you fight whatever you've got to fight to get this conviction, to get in there and to make sure that you protect the innocent, the person who never asked to be a part of the system in the first place. That's your job.

O'REILLY Okay, but they didn't want to do their job because it was hard. That's what it usually comes down to. I don't want to get up at midnight and have to go down to some dank neighborhood and look at, you know, a body bag.

PIRRO Okay, I'll give you a better one. If you work two weeks, five days a week, the lawyers, you get a day off. That means every month you get at least two days off or two and a half days off. That's nonsense. You got paid. You don't need to get time off. You're getting a vacation, you got sick time, you've got paternity, you've got maternity. Pretty soon they're gonna have animal bereavement time. You don't get...

O'REILLY Animal bereavement, I'm for that.

PIRRO So am I. In fact, tomorrow, I don't want to date this, but it's Bring Your Child to Work Day. I was thinking of bringing the dogs to work, you know? For those of us who don't have young kids anymore.

O'REILLY But you certainly toughened up the whole situation and it's going to be interesting to see the midterms as we discussed it, whether that is going to put a tsunami of more work into your office.

PIRRO It will.

O'REILLY Yeah, I think so.

PIRRO Yeah, I don't think there's any questions.

O'REILLY But you guys are ahead of it, you're prepared for it.

PIRRO Well, you know, I'm not really ahead of anything. You know, right now I'm pushing and pushing and I need more prosecutors. They're aware of that. We're trying to get more people into the office. I'm still shy of a bunch of prosecutors. I'm talking about 10, I talking about maybe 30.

O'REILLY Well, I'm glad you're saying it because millions of people are going to watch this interview and there are some very bright young law school people just graduated.

PIRRO You know what? Send me an email at jeanine.pirro@USDOJ.gov. Okay? And if you're a prosecutor, a local prosecutor in a local DA's office, I'm taking all comers. Come on in. You want to fight in the nation's capital, the biggest office in the country? Come on in.

O'REILLY Okay. Final question for you. And you're very kind to do this interview. What's the most fun that you have had in DC? Have you had any fun whatsoever? No, it's all work, right?

PIRRO It's not, it's not fun. I mean, I love the job, but when you say fun, I mean that's like hanging out and, you know.

O'REILLY Floating down the Potomac.

PIRRO Yeah, hooting and hollering and all that. No.

O'REILLY No.

PIRRO It's all serious.

O'REILLY Well, Saturday night at the Correspondents' Dinner.

PIRRO I'll see you there.

O'REILLY You may have fun.

PIRRO Yeah.

O'REILLY If I have to go after somebody.

PIRRO Yep.

O'REILLY Okay, just be gentle when you put the cuffs on me.

PIRRO Yeah, okay, Bill.

O'REILLY Okay, because that's why I'm there.

PIRRO You're there protecting us.

O'REILLY I am protecting the office of the presidency because it just drives me nuts.

PIRRO Drives us all nuts.

O'REILLY You know, I know all of the presidents from Washington on. Not personally, but I know who they were. Nobody was treated like this, like President Trump. It's wrong. And I don't care whether you like him or not. I don't care whether you think he's bellicose, word of the day. It doesn't matter to me. You're an American, you can decide those things. But to try to demean the whole structure of the commander in chief. If I were you, I'd arrest Murphy, the senator from Connecticut.

PIRRO Chris Murphy?

O'REILLY Yeah, he's the worst. You can get him on something. Anyway, thank you very much.

PIRRO Thank you, Bill.

O'REILLY I'm calling you Jeanine because it's 30 years...

PIRRO Thank you, Bill, and it's good to see you.

O'REILLY You're doing a great job. You are a patriot. That's my highest compliment.

PIRRO I know that, that's why my eyebrows just went up. Thank you, Bill.

O'REILLY I hope we see you soon.

PIRRO Yes. God bless. Thank you.

We'll Do It LIVE! - Jeanine Pirro

2026-04-23T16:00:00Z

Jeanine Pirro, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, joins Bill for an exclusive interview about her role in Washington, D.C., leaving Fox News, and working with President Trump. Judge Jeanine also talks about fighting crime and terrorism.

We'll Do It LIVE! - Jeanine Pirro

2026-04-23T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY So welcome to We'll Do It Live and who better than to do it live with then Judge Jeanine Pirro, everyone here she is. You don't see much of her because she's so busy these days, but we snagged her, and I am very happy that you're happy, and I mean that.

PIRRO Thank you.

O’REILLY Because I didn't know, you know, this five-thing was a cushy job. Hey, come on. This Fox Five thing, you're sitting there, if you can put up with Gutfeld, that's all you gotta do.

PIRRO Oh, boy, if that isn't the point.

O'REILLY Right, right. But it's a cushy job, it's just like, okay, here's a lot of money, just sit there, and then you say a few things, and you go home. This is a hard job, but not a lot of people know what you do. What do you do?

PIRRO Well, first of all, The Five was, you know, not a cushy job, it was a great job because you get hair and makeup, and you make money, and you have to be up on the news. You know that, I mean, you were in the business and you were at the top of the pyramid when you were in that business. But this job is Janine or me going back to my roots. It's the job that I started, and it's a job that I love. I love criminal justice. I love the idea of fighting on behalf of the victims of crime. I like enforcing the law. I believe in law and order. I believe in the Constitution. I believe that things have gotten so out of whack that we really needed to, you know, kind of readjust what was happening. And when I saw that Washington, D.C. had the fourth highest murder rate in the nation, comparable to the capital of some third world country, as recently as two years ago, I said, that's the kind of place where maybe I have something to offer. When the president called, first of all, I was honored, and I knew that it was something that would feed into my wheelhouse. Although I was a local DA in a county of a million people, which is much larger than the district that we're in right now, I was elected and reelected and re-elected again. So I had to be out there in the political sphere. Here, I could do the job, and I'm accountable to the people and, of course, the president.

O'REILLY Okay. But you're the DA of Westchester County, just north of New York City, and everybody knows what you do, when there's a crime committed in Westchester County, it comes into your office, you decide whether to prosecute the crime, and then when you make your decision, the other attorneys go, and they prosecute. Here, you've got the Attorney General of the United States, right across town. All right, you got a mayor that's not affiliated with Trump. It's a locally elected mayor Muriel Bowser. So it's almost like a mosaic. So, say somebody in D.C. murders somebody on federal property. Your case or the DA's case?

PIRRO I am the DA.

O'REILLY I mean, or the attorney general's case.

PIRRO Okay, here's the difference. Remember, we talked about the DA handling local crime, street crime, and then you have the federal United States attorney? My office in D.C., and as the United States Attorney in the District of Columbia, I am both. I am both the local prosecutor and I am United States attorney. I am a double-hatter.

O'REILLY Okay.

PIRRO Everything that happens is mine.

O'REILLY So the attorney general...

PIRRO Of the United States, right.

O'REILLY Right. She doesn't get involved with the street crime or anything like that in the district.

PIRRO She is, it's no longer a she, the attorney general, of course, is now acting Tom Blanche. Okay, but to the extent that the president has decided that he is going to make DC safe and beautiful with his executive order, then I am one of the only, if not the only, United States attorney who has dual jurisdiction of street crime and federal crime. I am the only one in the country that does both.

O'REILLY The attorney general then oversees the FBI, oversees the crimes that cut across...

PIRRO Federal crimes. Right.

O'REILLY Now, I was surprised. I had seen Pam Bondi on St. Patrick's Day. Nice conversation. Always got along with her. I was surprised that she left. That surprise you?

PIRRO I think she was asked to leave, that's my understanding. I'm not surprised because the president wants things done, and he needs someone who is going to aggressively pursue the agenda that needs to be done. And so now I think he sees in Todd Blanche, the acting attorney general...

O'REILLY A more aggressive person.

PIRRO A more aggressive person.

O'REILLY I don't think there's any doubt about that.

PIRRO Yeah, and I think that that's what the president wants.

O'REILLY Do you have anything to do with the Epstein situation?

PIRRO Absolutely not.

O'REILLY Okay, because that vexed Pam Bondi, that vexxed her.

PIRRO Yes.

O'REILLY You know, she made an initial mistake by saying, I got this file, and then everybody goes, what file? Let me see the file.

PIRRO Yeah, and a client list and all that.

O'REILLY But you don't have anything to do with Epstein.

PIRRO No, no, no. Because there isn't anything in my jurisdiction that involves any of the Epstein victims, or if someone had a case where they want to claim, and I just started a hotline, a tip line for Eric Swalwell. Once it was determined in California that he has been engaging in inappropriate, if not criminal behavior allegations, that I would look into it as well. So just as I'm doing that with Swalwell, I'll do that with any crime victim. I am an aggressive prosecutor.

O'REILLY As long as it took place in D.C. area.

PIRRO In my jurisdiction. Right.

O'REILLY All right. Tell me why the nation's capital had so many murders. Why?

PIRRO I'll tell you why. The nation's capital had so many murders because there was not a focus on law and order. There was not, we have a DC council. The DC council has laws that cover the superior court. They can be murders, and they can be, you know, assaults, sex crimes, burglaries, robberies, but they allow for the kind of sentencing that is so absurd, Bill, you would be stunned. So if you have someone who is under the age of 25 and kills three people in the DC court, not even the federal part of my job, but the local, and the court gives him 30 years for one, 30 years another, and 90 years, because of the DC council, after 15 years, he can get out. He doesn't have to prove he's sorry. He doesn't have to say what he did was wrong. They just figured he was under 25. We gotta give him another shot.

O'REILLY So you're saying that the D.C. City Council, elected by the locals...

PIRRO By the locals.

O'REILLY Too soft on crime.

PIRRO Too soft on crime is a kind way of saying it. What they are doing is they are allowing young people, teenagers, to commit crimes in my view, but allowing them to go into the juvenile justice system and the family court, where the focus is not punishment, deterrence, or retribution, it's rehabilitation. But that rehabilitation is yoga and ice cream social. There's no accountability. And so these young punks end up with a rap sheet a mile long. By the time they get to me, Bill, they're committing a murder. I look at their juvenile rap sheet, they've got robbery, car theft, they've gotten burglary, assault with a dangerous weapon. It's crazy. So--

O'REILLY This is like New York.

PIRRO Worse.

O'REILLY It's worse in New York.

PIRRO Definitely worse than New York, because when I was a prosecutor in New York, if you committed a murder at 14, I could prosecute you. Here I cannot.

O'REILLY But you know New York has changed its laws to make it easier for the miscreants to race around. Now why, why did the elected city council of Washington DC decide to go soft on crime?

PIRRO You'll have to ask them, Bill, but what I can tell you is that they think that young people need to be coddled because their prefrontal cortex area is not fully developed, and they are not capable of making reasoned decisions. But my question to you, Bill, is does it matter to you, God forbid, if you were shot, whether it's a 15-year-old who shoots you or a 50-year old? The consequences to you are the same.

O'REILLY Sure, and what if it's my daughter or my son?

PIRRO Yeah, it's even worse.

O'REILLY Right.

PIRRO Okay, and so they are not inclined to focus on the victims, they are focused on the young punks.

O'REILLY Right. Has that changed since you've been here?

PIRRO No, and in fact, we are demanding that they lower the age of accountability to 15, 16. They're not allowing that.

O'REILLY And they're fighting you?

PIRRO Well, they're not doing it. Look, Mayor Bowser, and by the way... The way to solve these issues is, first of all, thank President Trump, the executive order, make D.C. Safe and beautiful. He gives us the resources. I work with Mayor Bowser and the chief of police every day. We have a great relationship because we have a fundamental belief that we can make a difference.

O'REILLY So Bowser has come over to your side?

PIRRO Yes. I had a press conference with her today on a car theft ring that is international and stuff.

O'REILLY What was the source of this conversion, because she was always a far-left person?

PIRRO You know what?

O'REILLY Is it your personality?

PIRRO It's my over, my personality overcame her.

O'REILLY Because she's totally changed.

PIRRO She may have. All I know is the Muriel Bowser that I know is a Muriel Bowser that I like, that I can work with. We're doing another press conference on Friday on domestic violence, international theft ring. Tomorrow I'm doing something on C-scam and scam compounds in Southeast Asia. I mean, we're fighting all kinds of crimes. This is the best job in the world. I can do terrorism and bring back, you covered Benghazi. I covered Benghazi. I got the ringleader. We knew who the ring leader was from the get-go. Did anybody do anything? No. I got together with Marco Rubio, Kash Patel, and we brought back a guy named Bakush. I was on the tarmac for the transfer of control of this individual. And I met him and now we're prosecuting him.

O'REILLY What was the link to DC on it?

PIRRO We handle terrorism, where Americans are killed abroad. I'm also handling the Lockerbie case.

O'REILLY Any kind of terrorist activity abroad.

PIRRO Outside of the country. Yes.

O'REILLY That's in your jurisdiction?

PIRRO That's mine. Yeah.

O'REILLY I did not know that.

PIRRO This is the biggest United States attorney's office in the country.

O'REILLY I had no idea.

PIRRO Well, you know, if you give me another hour, I'll tell you about it.

O'REILLY And if I don't know, I mean, nobody knows.

PIRRO Yeah. National Guard, they're still here. Yep. And I'm glad they're here. And unfortunately, you know, one of the National Guard was killed. And another one is recuperating, Sarah Beckstrom and Andrew, who I talked to his mother and continue to talk to him on a regular basis. You know, we're close to our victims. You know the intern you heard about who was shot at 10:30 at night, caught in gunfire, is the intern who was working for a congressman from Arkansas. His mother and I are the best of friends. She never thought this case would be solved. MPD solved the case. Muriel Bowser, chief of police, solved the case. We worked together. We worked day and night on this case.

O'REILLY Who has jurisdiction over the National Guard in D.C.?

PIRRO Oh, that is a great question.

O'REILLY Well, it's me.

PIRRO You ask great questions. I would say that the president does because there is no governor.

O'REILLY Okay. So that, I think, is the correct answer because the president of the United States, the commander-in-chief, and the National Guard is part of the military. So, of course, it would come back to him. And he, how long is he going to keep the guard here?

PIRRO You know, obviously you'd have to speak to him about it, but I think that, you know, the president is focused on the 250th anniversary of the country on the 4th of July.

O'REILLY And he wants a clean D.C.

PIRRO He wants a clean D.C., and we have brought crime down, homicides are at the lowest rate in recorded history, but right now we're seeing a little uptick. Why? Because the weather's getting nicer, people are coming out, but we've made 12,000 arrests under this federal enhancement with the local police. We've taken something like, I don't know, 1,300 guns off the street. You know, those are 1,300 fewer guns that people can use to kill other people.

O'REILLY Now, can the guard take the guns, or can they just detain?

PIRRO Well, the guard can work. They always go with the local police, but they have their own guns that they can use, which is what happened with Lakanwal, who came from the state of Washington and decided to kill the two, or two.

O'REILLY So wherever the National Guard goes, they take the local metro DC police with them.

PIRRO Yes, yes, but no, you'll see them on a street corner alone. And they're there to deter crime. Whether or not they could make an arrest, they would probably concert or confer with MPD or other police agents.

O'REILLY Can they stop a miscreant from running?

PIRRO Yes, absolutely.

O'REILLY Okay. They can.

PIRRO They can detain, yes.

O'REILLY So they're another tool of control to stop...

PIRRO That is effective.

O’REILLY ...People from committing crimes on the street.

PIRRO You know what's happening, Bill? People are able to go out to dinner. They're able to walk the streets.

O'REILLY You sound like Trump.

PIRRO Because it's true. It's true, Bill. I hear it all the time.

O'REILLY Every time Trump says that, he says, when are you going to buy me dinner?

PIRRO Yeah, he could buy both of us dinner.

O'REILLY Okay, that brings us to your appointment. Now, some say that Donald Trump makes his appointments based on friendships with people who've been loyal to him. Is that a fair assessment?

PIRRO I don't know, I'd have to look at all of his appointments.

O'REILLY Oh, that's a dodge.

PIRRO No, it's not a dodge at all. It's a direct answer to your question. If you want to ask me if he appointed me because of our relationship, I would say to you, he knows me. He knew me as a DA. He knows me as a fighter. He knows me as an individual who believes in law and order, and I believe in him as well.

O'REILLY And but you were very supportive of him when you were on Fox.

PIRRO I was, I was, because I know the man. I've known the man for almost, what, 36 years? He's been at my home, I've been at his homes, you know, I'd see him on the street when I was DA in the 90s.

O'REILLY Would you say you understand Donald Trump?

PIRRO Nobody understands Donald Trump. You know who does? Melania understands him.

O'REILLY You think so?

PIRRO Oh yeah.

O'REILLY Okay.

PIRRO Oh yeah.

O’REILLY So I don't know if that's a fair assessment, about the president appointing people that he feels have been partial to him. I think that's...I don't know if that's fair.

PIRRO I don't know that he knows everyone that he's appointed. I mean, you'd have to prove that he knows everyone. He doesn't necessarily know them.

O'REILLY Right, but he's, he reviews it, I know that. He's not gonna put on anybody from MS is not going to be working for you anytime soon. Okay, because he holds a grudge.

PIRRO No, because, you know, these are the people who indicted him, and indicted him, indicted again.

O'REILLY It's a grudge, Jeanine. You know, both you and I know that I'd say 80% of that was just garbage.

PIRRO It was garbage. It was made-up stuff.

O'REILLY It was horrible.

PIRRO I can tell you, I was a DA in New York, just like the DA Alvin Bragg. I was the county judge, just like judge who was there trying the case, Judge Marshawn, okay? I held both those positions. That trial was so ridiculous. There was no crime. It was beyond the statute of limitations. .

O'REILLY This is the real estate fraud, which is insane, and E. Jean Carroll, are you kidding me? Bloomingdale's?

PIRRO Wasn't it Barney's?

O'REILLY No, it was Bloomingdale's.

PIRRO Was it Bloomy's? Okay.

O'REILLY I'm sitting there going... what? Okay, that could never have happened.

PIRRO Yeah. Yeah.

O'REILLY So when you were on the five, you were very, I think you were the strongest of the crew out there, saying this is a bunch of crap.

PIRRO Because I know the man, and I can speak to the man. I can speak to who he is, what he's like, when he parties, late at night, early in the day, seeing him with his kids, seeing him with his family. I've seen him on the street. I know the man, okay? And everyone wants to make him something that he's not. And the truth is, Bill, the very fact that he survived everything that they threw at him tells you that this is not an ordinary man. So don't expect ordinary responses from him every day of the week. He's a different kind of guy. He is, I mean, the man has armor around him. I don't know how he does it. But what...

O'REILLY He's a vampire.

PIRRO No, I don't think he's a vampire. I'm gonna tell him you said that. He's not gonna take you to dinner, he's gonna take me to dinner now.

O'REILLY Yeah, he never sleeps.

PIRRO Oh, he doesn't. He used to call my house.

O'REILLY I know.

PIRRO When my ex worked for him.

O'REILLY Vampires never sleep, Jeanine.

PIRRO He'd say, where is he? I'm like, hold on.

O'REILLY It's the whole night, there over flying around, turning into bats.

PIRRO He's working all night. Thank God for America.

O'REILLY So you're sitting there at The Five, and you're making good money. It's a very successful program. And you get the call.

PIRRO Yeah.

O'REILLY How long did it take you to say, I'm gonna dump the TV thing, and I'm going to go with the public service?

PIRRO Didn't take me long at all. Let me explain something to you. Sometimes the most difficult decisions are not all that complicated. Because when he made that phone call to me.

O'REILLY He did it personally.

PIRRO He called me, yeah. It was, it went right to my soul. This is who I am. This is how I want to, you know, maybe end my career. Who knows? This is a job that I love. This is a job where I go in every day, and I can't wait to get there. I mean, I haven't even told you all the stuff we do. I'm the DA here. I'm a federal prosecutor. I do terrorism. I do civil cases. I do, I defend agencies. I go, I prosecute agents. I mean, this is a huge job, a huge office that I had to turn around, Bill. It was a neglected office. People were quitting, people were getting fired. You know, my...

O'REILLY I don't even know who the DA was under Biden.

PIRRO The guy's name was Matthew Graves, United States Attorney.

O'REILLY I've never heard of him.

PIRRO He was a United States attorney. We're not called DAs. We are United States attorneys.

O'REILLY Okay, I'm sorry, Matthew.

PIRRO Yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah, I saw his picture. I never knew who he was either.

O'REILLY I had no idea who it was.

PIRRO Yeah. But let me tell you something...

O'REILLY So it took you less than a day to say yes or?

PIRRO It was about a day and a half.

O'REILLY A day and a half?

PIRRO Yeah. It was like, I didn't think you have a great life, a great job, you work for a great company. It wasn't that. It was, like, you got to do what's in your heart. You just got to go.

O'REILLY Okay. Did Jesse Waters cry when you met each other?

PIRRO I talked to Jesse a lot. I talk to Jesse...

O'REILLY Through an interpreter? Or do you just talk to him?

PIRRO I do talk to him. And...and you know, I miss, I miss Harold. I miss Jessica. I miss Dana.

O'REILLY I thought that was a good crew, right?

PIRRO It was a great crew. We all liked each other. That's why it worked.

O'REILLY Right. So, despite all of the trappings of that, because usually you get it the other way. Usually, the public servants want to get on television, make the big money, get the glamor. You go the other way.

PIRRO Yeah. Maybe I'm not that smart, Bill. I don't know.

O'REILLY I don't know. I know how much you're making now, and I know how much you made over there. So maybe you want to discuss your finances with me, but you took a humongous pay cut. It's ridiculous.

PIRRO The pay cut I took was ridiculous.

O’REILLY Right. Didn't matter?

PIRRO It didn't matter. The money didn't matter, didn't factor. It was as wonderful as that was. And you know, the old take the yellow legal pad, do the pros, do the cons. You know the cons are ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. You have to move, you have to leave your dogs, you have to do this, you do that, you're not gonna...One line is who you are.

O'REILLY Well, you were always that way, though.

PIRRO What way?

O'REILLY I've known you, what, 25 years?

PIRRO At least, yeah.

O'REILLY But you were a woman of passion in the sense that there were certain things you wanted to accomplish, and you did. You did everything.

PIRRO I don't know about everything, but... I'm happy.

O'REILLY There isn't anything you haven't done. You built your way up in the legal area, conquered that, good job. Now you're in the federal area, and you drove The Five's ratings up to where they are. So you've done pretty much everything.

PIRRO I wrote a few books along the way. I had two kids along the way. And...I think the one thing that I kind of, that I miss is that solitude that you have in your own home.

O'REILLY Sure. But you still have your home. You didn't sell it.

PIRRO Tell me. No, I didn't.

O'REILLY No, you're going back.

PIRRO Not so far.

O'REILLY Right.

PIRRO But I miss home. I'm in an apartment, which sometimes it just feels like a suitcase.

O'REILLY Well, the way you work, you're not there very much.

PIRRO I'm not, and I miss my dogs.

O'REILLY The dogs. You don't have to walk them, see, that's a good part.

PIRRO I never did, I let them out. I have property.

O'REILLY Just let them, and they run around?

PIRRO I have a property, yeah, it's all...

O'REILLY And the coyotes don't get them?

PIRRO No, no, coyotes don't dare.

O'REILLY Do you ever get the ire of the Trump haters?

PIRRO Yeah, I don't care. I don't even...

O’REILLY I know you don't care, but are you subjected to that? Look, this is big difference from New York.

PIRRO Yeah, oh, it's different.

O'REILLY Huge, okay. Now in New York, they don't like...Hey! It's O'Reilly, Hey!

PIRRO Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay. That's all right.

PIRRO And I yell back at them, by the way. When they come at me, I go right back.

O'REILLY But here it's more in the back. There are people who are working for President Trump, who have come under that scrutiny that they're not invited anywhere, they're shunned by people. You experience that?

PIRRO I don't care. I don't need to be invited anywhere, Bill.

O'REILLY I understand that, but how have you experienced...

PIRRO Yeah, I think I was here two weeks, and I was sitting outside, I have the marshals with me, and I'm sitting outside, and some guy comes out with a big placard and says Pirro's a fascist, and he caught my attention. I said, oh, that's me. And so the Marshalls are like, I said, I want to go talk to this guy, and he goes, you're not going to talk to him. Yeah, there are a lot of those.

O'REILLY They saved you from yourself.

PIRRO From myself. You know that, Bill, because I wanted to fight with the guy.

O'REILLY They're over here. When I walked in there, they patted me down, so they're taking good care of you.

PIRRO Yeah, they're great guys.

O'REILLY Okay, but I know you're not invested in any of that, the social stuff.

PIRRO No, I'm not. I'm not.

O'REILLY Okay, but there are people who have taken it right on the chin, particularly lawyers.

PIRRO You're right. And that's their livelihood.

O'REILLY Right.

PIRRO Yeah, I already know my livelihood's pretty much down to this compared to what it was, so.

O'REILLY Your livelihood is a lot bigger than theirs, but I'm just wondering how blatant that Trump hatred is in the Washington so-called swamp.

PIRRO Well, let me throw a statistic at you. 95% of the people in the district voted for Kamala Harris. Do I need to say anything else? These are people who sit on the juries. These are the people who sat on the grand juries, you know, these are people who do not love Donald Trump. There's no question about it. But what am I going to do? I have a job to do, and I'm gonna do my job. And the only way to do that job is to work with the judges. It's to work with the mayor and the police and people who don't like me to try to find common ground.

O'REILLY But here's something interesting. Your conviction rate is high, despite the juries being left.

PIRRO The conviction rate is high. There are a few cases that, you know, CNN and some of these other places will say, oh my God, they're losing these cases. They're losing, you know, they didn't get an indictment in this case. You know, but the truth is that there's only 10% of the cases I'm not prosecuting. Now follow me. Matthew Graves, the former U.S. Attorney you never heard of, didn't prosecute 65% of those cases.

O'REILLY Wow, that's a big stat.

PIRRO So everybody knows that I am taking on, I'm taking on all comers. You go after a victim in the district, you go after anybody, and I'm coming for you. And if the jury says guilty, wonderful. They say not guilty, I'll take it. It's fine. Now they know there's going to be accountability. There's going be arrests.

O'REILLY But it looks to me like you're making some inroads in persuading these jurors.

PIRRO I think there is. I think they recognize that what we're trying to do is make it better. And you have to lie to yourself, Bill, to say things are worse under Donald Trump.

O'REILLY Yeah, you can't.

PIRRO They have to admit it, unconsciously, in D.C.

O'REILLY Right, in D.C.

PIRRO In this district, it's totally different.

O'REILLY Now, the media. So you're a part of the pro-Trump media, I mean, let's be honest about it, but most of it's anti-Trump. Okay? Are you going to the correspondence dinner?

PIRRO Yes, I am.

O'REILLY So I'll be there too.

PIRRO I'll see you there.

O'REILLY But I'm being there as a reporter.

PIRRO Really?

O'REILLY Not as a guest.

PIRRO Okay.

O'REILLY Okay? Because if anybody does something untoward, I'm going to confront them.

PIRRO Good.

O'REILLY I don't want you to prosecute me, by the way.

PIRRO Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay.

PIRRO All right. But I'll give you an interview.

O'REILLY I just walked to the line. All right, I said, I don't want Pirro on my case. So there's just a line. But that's why I'm going.

PIRRO Interesting.

O'REILLY Because I don't want the office of the presidency attacked at a stupid dinner.

PIRRO I appreciate that.

O'REILLY Which could absolutely happen. Okay, you know, Dan Rather and Donaldson put out this Dopey letter and, you know. Forcefully confront the president? What does that mean?

PIRRO These people are unhinged.

O'REILLY I think so.

PIRRO There's no respect for the office. I mean, the way we treated President Obama was we disagreed with him, but we didn't create chaos. They disagree with us, and they create chaos, violence, and all kinds of problems.

O'REILLY And you see that?

PIRRO I do see that. I absolutely do see it.

O'REILLY Okay. Does it affect your job in any way?

PIRRO No, and my job, though, Bill, is to turn that office around from a neglected office, the kind of-.

O'REILLY You already did it.

PIRRO No, but I mean, getting these prosecutors to go in there is a tip of the spear. We're here representing the victims. We're not here representing any politics. We're here representing the victims and going after the criminals. You know, there's no, I don't want people like, oh, you know, they don't like us and this or that. I don't care, get that out of your mind. Put your blinders on. This is who we are. I support you in everything that you're doing. I think there was a little hesitation at the beginning.

O'REILLY I did a recent report in San Francisco on how that city has devolved into the unbelievable chaos because laws weren't enforced.

PIRRO Interesting. Yeah.

O'REILLY So we did that on News Nation, and it was a big hit, and what I learned from that was that there are prosecutors who don't care about the law.

PIRRO Damn right. You're right.

O'REILLY They care about advancing their careers.

PIRRO With their followers and their ideologues.

O'REILLY Right.

PIRRO Yes.

O'REILLY So the guy that gets beat up, you know, and his nose broken and teeth knocked out.

PIRRO Pays the price.

O'REILLY They don't care about him. And so you've been able to banish that, do you think?

PIRRO I think so. I think to a great extent, Bill, I've been able to do that. I think that, you know, this whole idea that anyone is there or anyone is impacted because of politics, I just strip them of that completely. And when we go into court, we go in on the facts and the law. And sometimes we get pushed back from judges. And our job is to push back the judges. I think before me, they didn't push back so much. Before me, it was like, I said, no, no, no. The judge doesn't run this office. The judge doesn't tell us. And I was a judge. Judge doesn't tell us what to do. We decide what we're gonna do. We decide whether there's gonna be a plea. We decide what we think the sentence should be. And that's how far we go with this case. Nobody is gonna control us.

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O'REILLY Did you have a tough time picking your team? Because number one, you don't know the turf, coming down from New York. Number two, the turf is left. Did you have a tough time assembling these people?

PIRRO Yes. Yes. I had a tough time. I was short of 90 prosecutors and 60 legal assistants.

O'REILLY Ninety?

PIRRO Ninety.

O'REILLY How many is total in your office?

PIRRO Four hundred. Four something. Four thirty. Something like that.

O'REILLY That's a big group.

PIRRO I keep telling you it's a bigger office.

O'REILLY Yeah.

PIRRO And 90 prosecutors, 60 legal assistants. I'm short of 150 people. All right. And then what happened was they started firing people, and then people started leaving because they thought they were going to get fired. And my message to them was, you be a good prosecutor. You get in there and fight the fight. And I don't care who you are. You do the job. And so the ship is calm. We've turned it around. I'm still short prosecutors, because historically, this office is one where people move in and out of very quickly. But at the same time, we've got some really good people in my front office. I brought one of my assistant DAs who worked for me years ago. He was one of the best investigators, Steve Vandervelden. A guy from Congress, brilliant guy, Carlton Davis. And my pals of my principal at AUSA is someone who worked in the office for 13 years. I brought in a guy from NASA, NASA, who's my executive at AUSA. I have a great team. I am very hands-on, Bill. You can't get away with anything in the office. Don't bullshit me.

O'REILLY Well, you tried that at Fox with me, and it didn't work. This U.S. Attorney, Lindsey Halligan, got screwed. Were you involved with that at all?

PIRRO I think that there was some information that she needed from our office that we were able to provide her, but all of that information from the office was from I think 2017, 2019, and but we were not asked to work on the case.

O'REILLY Right.

PIRRO You know, I think, I think she probably could have used more help.

O'REILLY Well, I mean, look, Comey, the former FBI director, guilty of sin, I'm sorry. I'm a due process guy, but the guy did it. I mean, he misled Congress. He had his friend put stuff out to the New York Times. He denied he didn't do it. And this Ms. Halligan was right in the middle of this. The press, of course, all along Comey's side. And I'm going, what's this? And it didn't look like she had much help.

PIRRO I don't know that she did. We gave her the help that we could based upon what she needed, but that help should have come from main justice.

O'REILLY Should have come from the attorney general.

PIRRO Yes.

O'REILLY Okay. How often do you talk to the president?

PIRRO I talk to him when I talk to him, which means I'm not going to answer your question.

O'REILLY Why?

PIRRO Because the press asks me that question all the time. I don't answer them.

O'REILLY Well, but what's the downside?

PIRRO No, I speak to him frequently. Okay.

O'REILLY Frequently.

PIRRO Don't ask me to define it.

O'REILLY Well, he calls you whenever he wants to call you.

PIRRO Yeah, he is the president.

O'REILLY Okay.

PIRRO How often does he call you?

O'REILLY He calls me occasionally. Mostly, he'd yell at me, okay? You know how it is. But he's the president, I actually have to keep my phone on all night, and because I want to help. I'll tell him, you know me, if he asks me, I'm gonna tell him what I think. A lot of times, he doesn't want to hear that. You're kind of like me that way. If I ask you, you're gonna tell me what you think. You like that with him? No deference?

PIRRO You know, now that I work for him, there's like, you know, Mr. President, Mr. President, I say, Donald, no!

O'REILLY No, you gotta call him Mr. President.

PIRRO Mr. President, yeah, of course, there's deference. He is the president, and I am one of his appointees. I have tremendous respect for him. And I'm honored when he calls me.

O'REILLY Does he ask you questions that go beyond your job? Policy questions, things like that?

PIRRO I'm not gonna talk about what I talk about with him.

O'REILLY But I'm asking you specific questions.

PIRRO I'm not. Yeah, yeah, that's specific enough.

O'REILLY That's specific enough.

PIRRO That's it. That's as far as I'm going.

O'REILLY You believe that he trusts... Well, that's a stupid question. Of course he does, or he wouldn't bother calling you. So I'm not getting anything here? You're stonewalling me here?

PIRRO No. You're not getting anything.

O'REILLY Now, if this was The Factor, I'd have to, you know.

PIRRO Yeah, you'd have to beat me up.

O'REILLY But I'm being extra nice.

PIRRO Yeah. Yeah. I am very grateful for you being extra nice here.

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PIRRO But, you know, one of the things that I think is important for me to say in light of everything that we've talked about is that the new attorney general, the acting attorney general, Todd Blanche, I think he's doing a great job.

O'REILLY Tough guy.

PIRRO A tough guy, experienced guy, very aggressive, knows the president. I think it's going to be a great run for him.

O'REILLY He's got a lot to sort out.

PIRRO He has a lot of people who believe in him.

O'REILLY Yeah. But that whole attorney general situation now, because you know if the midterms go against President Trump, you know what the hell's gonna happen here. Well, hell's going to break loose. Ready for that?

PIRRO Am I ready? Sure. I'm one of the good news stories. You just said it yourself.

O'REILLY Alright, so you're ready for nutty, loony, I hate Trumpers, you know, trying to denigrate him using the legal system.

PIRRO Absolutely. It's nothing new to him.

O'REILLY You anticipated it? I mean, you guys thought about it?

PIRRO Absolutely, you think about it. I mean, I've been around a long time, Bill. I understand how they play. We all understand how the play. What they're going to do. What they will do to get power back. You saw how they got power the last time. I mean everything from the Russia hoax, and the liars, leakers, liberals.

O'REILLY But it would be foolish for them to impeach him. That would hurt the party.

PIRRO You think so?

O'REILLY I do. The nation has had enough of that. And independent voters, they're not going to go for that. But there are other ways to do it.

PIRRO How?

O'REILLY Well, they can trump up, pardon the pun, anything they want and make it almost impossible for him to govern unless the legal system steps in, and says bull, this is garbage, and we're not going to entertain this, and you're still going to have the power to do that even if the Democrats win. But I think that the attorney general, yourself, is going to be the bulwark there. You guys are going to the first one in defense when the Trump haters, if they get control of Congress.

PIRRO Well, they're coming at us, there's no question.

O'REILLY Right.

PIRRO They're coming at us.

O'REILLY How would you describe to somebody who lived in Poland what the atmosphere politically is in Washington, D.C.? How would you describe that to somebody that has no idea?

PIRRO Well, first of all, you know, Washington, D.C. is filled with politicians, and I think that politicians themselves are just less than credible to begin with, most of them, okay? What I've seen since I've been here is that, you know, there's a lot of lobbyists and a lot of parties and a lot of this and that, I mean, there are very few of them who are so committed to getting the job done as opposed to just fighting with each other. All right, that is the game. It's to make them look bad, and we're not even a part of it. Forget, not even pawns. We're not part of the thing. And then when you go outside of Congress, then you've got just the haters. The people who believe that they know more than everyone else who may be experienced in the law, and that we're all corrupt, and that Trump and the prosecutors and the court system... You know, we're just trying to put people in jail, and that we're not protecting anybody. And you know, if a cop gets assaulted, too bad. He probably deserved it. Or in one case, we had a police officer who was brought in, I think it was an FBI agent. He was brought, and he was African-American, and the jurors sat in the deliberation room, because they come and tell us. Well, they only brought him in just to make sure that you realize that we had someone black working on the case. I mean, it's just, it is like, there's so much animosity. You know, they're looking for so much collision and fighting in this district. It's like you're on a side or you're the other side.

O'REILLY So they want conflict all the time because that gives them a reason not to move ahead on what their original job.

PIRRO Or it gives them a reason to, you know, to vent against someone. I don't know, maybe they're frustrated. They just need to fight with people.

O'REILLY Well, with Trump, it's everything's personal. Everything.

Killing Time with Jeanine Pirro

2026-04-23T16:00:00Z

Bill and Jeanine Pirro discuss Joe Biden, Barack Obama, President Trump and public service.

Trump Hatred in D.C. with Jeanine Pirro

2026-04-23T15:12:00Z

Yesterday I spoke with U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Jeanine Pirro about a bevy of political issues involving the Trump administration and her job for my We’ll Do It LIVE! long-form podcast.

In this first look, we touch upon the amount of disdain directed at President Trump from within the swamp.

Iran War Impact & Springsteen's Anti-Trump Tour

2026-04-23T14:33:00Z

Killing Time

2026-04-23T14:32:00Z

Pawky

2026-04-23T03:04:00Z

[pawk·y] having a mocking or cynical sense of humour.

The Rising Economic Impact of the Iran War, Public Approval of Congress Hits New Lows, Bruce Springsteen's Anti-Trump Tour & California's Controversial New Bill

2026-04-22T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Thank you for watching the No Spin News from Washington, DC. It is Wednesday, April 22nd, 2026. Stand up for your country. So it was chaotic getting down here. It's always chaotic in New York City. Took me two hours to go 20 minutes, 20 miles, I should say. I lived 20 miles from Manhattan, two hours. It's insane. And it's not gonna get any better because there's nobody actually working on moving the traffic in and out of the nation's largest city. So it gets worse and worse and worse and worse. I just made it. And I got intervened because the train, Amtrak, which isn't bad, was delayed about 20 minutes. I just got on there, or I wouldn't be here. That's how I figured two hours on 20 miles, next time I'm going to take a Pogo stick. Remember Pogo sticks? So anyway, we're here, and I got to continue covering the Iran story because it affects every human being on the planet, particularly those in the United States of America. So, we're going to do a number of things here. About getting information about Iran, and things are happening fairly quickly. And then on Saturday night, as I mentioned this week, there will be the White House Correspondents' Dinner first time in his five years in office that Donald Trump is attending. And that's why I'm gonna be there. Not because of the president, but because if anybody misbehaves, they're gonna have to answer to me. I mean that. I'm going to have their names and every place else on Monday up here, and if they get out of control, which I can't imagine because the Secret Service will be all over the place, I'll confront them right in the room because you have to respect the office of the presidency. Anyway, that is why we are here.

Iran, the Talking Points Memo. Some good news today. President Trump posted this afternoon that he has got a stay of execution for eight women who are going to be killed because of their anti-government protests inside Iran. And they're all young women. All they did was protest, and the mullahs were going to kill them. So here's what the president posted on social media. Quote, very good news. I have just been informed that the eight women protesters who are going to be executed tonight in Iran will no longer be killed. Four will be released immediately. Four will sentenced in one month to prison. I would very much appreciate that Iran, its leaders, respected my request as president of the United States and terminated the planned execution. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Now, I'm going to be a little bitchy here, but I didn't hear the Trump, I didn't hear the Pope, I should say, say anything about these eight women. And I'm sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful to His Holiness. I do think he's a good man, but I don't believe he has any idea what's happening here. And, I could be wrong about it. So anyway, that's a good thing. Obviously, you don't want to be killing eight young women. And the Iranians had to do it. They can't be in that execution soup while fighting for their lives because that's exactly what they're doing. Now there's no new battlefield updates or Hormuz updates. We have the best coverage. Throughout the days and weekend, you go to BillOReilly.com, and whatever happens, we have it there. And we have the true story, not the false story, what's really happening. And it's not good, because there could be a worldwide recession. It's what the mullahs want. That's what they're fighting with. It's economics now. So gas prices continue to climb. Just this week alone, up nine cents in the USA, about a buck over what it was this time last year.

In addition to that, AP poll has President Trump's approval rating and job approval rating going down 33%. Overall, do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president? Approve 33, disapproved 67. Approved or disapproval the way Donald Trump is handling Iran? Approve 32, disapprove 67, same number. Now, the only good news for the president in this poll is if he is able to prevail, if the United States is able to prevail, those numbers will go up fast. All Americans want is it to be over successfully. That's what the struggle is all about right now. But it is a struggle. And I told you on March 3rd, it would be. Roll it.

"Certainly, if Iran goes south, the president's going to have some problems. This is a big gamble on his part, big. Now, if it turns out like Venezuela, he's going to be a hero, but boy, he's rolling the dice."

And he is because of the worldwide economy. So if you're planning on flying this summer, you're gonna pay about 25% more for an airline ticket, particularly in Europe and Asia, but that's gonna come here too. And that's because the jet fuel is much higher. Makes sense. The global price of jet fuel. I surged $100 a barrel to $200 a barrel, double. So keep that in mind, might want to get your ticket now or not go or drive or pick Amtrak or whatever. If you're going to pay, we're going to pay. Now the mullahs know that this worldwide recession is an absolute possibility. And that's why they're holding out. They can't hold out militarily. So, you would think that something has to happen militarily to make them stop the madness. But I don't know what that something might be. I do know it cannot go on. And that is the Memo.

Now, Congress has worse approval numbers, worse than Donald Trump. All right, there's a Gallup poll. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job? Approved 10%, 10%. Disapproved 86%. And that's both parties. 97% of Democrats disapprove of Congress. And 76% of Republicans disapprove. Why do Democrats, almost all of them, disapprove? Because they want Congress to rein in President Trump. That's what they want, and it's not happening because Republicans do hold a majority, and the judges, and I'll give you a couple of cases that just came in, are ruling on a side, generally speaking, of the Trump administration, federal judges. Anyway, with congressional approval at 10%, 9%, that's crazy insane. But it's Congress's own fault. I mean, they're either on vacation, or they're not there or yelling and screaming, and they got this idiot Murphy in Connecticut siding with Iran, hoping they defeat the U.S. Military, it's just on and on and on. And then you got this guy, Roy, a Republican in Texas who wants to deport everybody who's a socialist, and people are going, what the deuce is happening here? So this is, you know, pretty startling, this Gallup poll. Now there is growing dissent in America, but it's primarily hate-Trump dissent. Because people don't really understand it, even after all of the media coverage, most folks don't know what the deuce is going on in Iran. They don't know. And it's crazy because we have a situation where the people are reacting. And I have letters. I'm gonna give my producer a signal. This is how chaotic today has been. So you're getting some inside baseball here. In my satchel, I have the letters, okay, for today. And I don't have them in the script. So someone has to go and get the letters. How about this, all right? And then give them to me so I can read them to the audience at the end of the program. So, please make that happen. I'm sorry I left them, but I barely got here. That's a good excuse. Anyway, back to growing dissent. The poster boy for this is Bruce Springsteen. Never really liked him. Just don't like his music, don't like him. But I understand that he's got a big, big following. So Springsteen is out on a tour, a land of hope and dreams tour. And here's what he opens with. Go.

"The mighty East Street Band is here tonight to call upon the righteous power of art, of music, of rock and roll, in dangerous times. We are here in celebration and in defense of our American ideals, democracy, our Constitution, our sacred American promise. The America, the America that I love, the America that I've written about for 50 years, and has been a beacon of hope and liberty around the world, is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent, racist, reckless, and treasonous administration."

Boring. And he couldn't back it up. He couldn't back it up. Springsteen could not pack it. If Springsteen sat here for one of our long-form We'll Do It Live podcasts, I can guarantee you it would not be a pleasant experience for Bruce Springsteen. Because he couldn't answer the questions. Because he doesn't know what he's talking about. But what he does know is how to make money. So, a local Jersey newspaper tracked down what Springsteen is charging for his top tickets in this land of hope and dreams tour. Ready? In New Jersey, which just happened a couple of days ago, Springsteen charged 2,900 bucks for top. New York City, 2,800. DC, where I am now, 1,800, Chicago, 1,200. In addition, Springsteen is selling no king's flags in the concourse of the stadiums or the arenas. So Bruce made a big buck off this. Big buck off dissent. Now I looked around, and maybe he's given some of this money to charity, but we can't find it. And that means it goes in Bruce's pocket. Isn't there something a little tawdry about that? I think there is. So there you go, Bruce Springsteen.

California. The Nick Shirley Act, quick, who's Nick Shirley? Come on, you know. So he is the freelance journalist that broke this Somali fraud story in Minnesota. Did a good job, okay? And he embarrassed the state, and his reporting led to some indictments. Now he's in California, and he's pretty much doing the same thing. But the California legislature in Sacramento wants to stop him. So they've introduced assembly bill 2624 to stop Nick Shirley from reporting. Here's what it says. The bill would establish an address confidentiality program for designated immigration support services provider, employee, or volunteer is defined, faces threats of violence or harassment from the public because of their affiliation with designated immigration support services facility. Or would additionally prohibit a business, person, or association soliciting, selling, or trading on the internet or social media, personal information, or image of a designated immigration support services provided, employee volunteer patient with the intent described above." So you could not mention anybody involved in alleged fraud then. Okay, this is what California wants to do. They want to ban this kind of reporting. Here's what Mr. Shirley said.

"And if this bill were to get passed, instead of going after the fraudsters, they're trying to make it criminal to go after the people that are committing this fraud. For instance, it would become criminal to film and reveal info on taxpayer-funded immigration services like healthcare, which would include daycare, hospices. It also covers counseling services, translation services, and immigration legal services. So for instance, if the Quality Leering Center was inside of California, it would be illegal to expose them. It would make it illegal to film government-funded NGOs. And this bill essentially wants to shield the info of immigrant support services from the public.".

And that's all true. So later this week, there's gonna be a full vote after some debate in the California assembly. Up or down, I guess, it'll pass because California's crazy left. We haven't found anything from Governor Newsom on it. If it does pass, it will be immediately thrown into federal court as a violation of the First Amendment. So, isn't it funny that all of these pinheads going to the White House Correspondents' dinner want to disparage President Trump, anything and everything he's done? But they don't have anything to say about this California thing. Pretty interesting, right? So we'll keep you posted on that story, which very few people know about.

The Department of Justice charges the Southern Poverty Law Center with fraud. So this happened yesterday, 11 count indictment against the SPLC, including bank and wire fraud. Okay, now this is what the government alleges. Okay, so you can't take it to the bank. They say that over a period of time, the Southern Poverty Law Center spent $3 million bribing Ku Klux Klan people, Nazi people, and other far right concerns to cause trouble. This is what the Attorney General says, okay, so that the Southern Poverty Law Center could then rush in and defend whatever trouble is being caused and blame it on the neo-nazi groups. So they're basically soliciting money, Southern Poverty Law Center, for to help minorities, but they're spending money, giving money to far-right kooks so they can create a fracas. Isn't that interesting? This is the allegation now. Again, due process. So the SPLC says the allegations are false that quote, "We take on violent hate extremist groups and among the most dangerous work there is, we believe this is the most important work to do, fighting white supremacy and various forms of injustice," on and on. I don't know. But, the government, the attorney general says it has informers inside the Nazi groups and the Klan who took the money, and they'll testify. They took the money. That's where we are in that one. Pretty interesting, right?

Bronx subway. Now, this got no media coverage at all. None. November 13th, 2023, two cops on a subway platform in the Bronx, okay, they were beset upon by Kareem McClary and Isaiah Gissemi, and they were beaten up. There it is, there's the tape. One of the cops was hurt and had to go to the hospital. The other cop is okay. It took more than two years to get this case into a trial, even though you had the videotape. It was delayed 20 times, 2-0. Why? Because the Bronx DA, Marcel Clark, didn't want to prosecute it. Finally got the case in front of a jury. The jury acquitted the two men who attacked the cops, even though they saw it. Even though they saw it on videotape. Not guilty. I understand, I wasn't in the courtroom, that the defense lawyers defending these thugs said, oh, the cops caused this because they're racist. All right. So these guys walk. They didn't spend any time in prison at all. And this is the message. The Bronx is one of the most dangerous places in the country. Very, very difficult. High level of drug addiction, high levels of street crime, no renaissance, none of that. The juries that are... Sitting for these cases are letting criminals, miscreants out. So what kind of a neighborhood do you think you're going to have? What kind of neighborhood are you going to have in the Bronx? You'll lend them out. You know they're guilty. You'll loan them out because you don't like the cops. You think they're racist. So you let the guys who beat them up out. What do you think's gonna happen? What is already happening has been happening, excuse me, for decades. Rampant street crime. So if granny wants to go to the bodega, granny may or may not make it. Your kids are coming home from school, okay, that kid might be beset upon by a gang. Forced to join the gang, or get the hell beat out of the kid. You're okay with it. This is the message you sent.

Texas. So a federal court 10-9 says that state of Texas can impose the 10 commandments in every school, every public school. All right, so Texas Senate Bill 10 requires a copy of the 10 commandments to be displayed in every classroom, in every public school, an open enrollment charter school in Texas, 10-9. The feds say yeah. Now, primarily, this is two reasons why the Ten Commandments are back. Number one, the dissenters, people who don't want the Ten Commandments, couldn't prove there was any kind of religious connection in the court hearing. Number two, it's history. That's the big argument. So the Ten Commandments are history, it's based on Judeo-Christian philosophy. And that's what our country, why we have the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, because of the Ten Commandments. So, in Texas, you're gonna display them. That's a good ruling.

Smart life. Now this is an amazing story. So I told you very early on that the gambling industry was gonna overrun the working class in America. And you see if Jamie Foxx is out there and a whole bunch of movie stars and comedians, and they're gambling. And during the NFL and Major League Baseball, and NBA, gambling commercial, after gambling commercial, after gambling commercial. And you can bet on literally anything. 27% of Americans have gambling accounts with these outfits. 27% according to Siena and St. Bonaventure research. That's up from 19% two years ago. It was from 19 to 27 because of the TV ads. 63% of the 27% who have the accounts have bet over $100 in a day. Gotta have money. 52% of men ages 18 to 49 have an account. They don't have any money. They're still on the road to making money, but they have an account. 83% of those who have an account have placed a bet. So this is a smart life segment. You can't win. You can win. So once in a while, you'll hit a game, or you'll hit an over-under or whatever they're doing, but in the long run, you're gonna lose, you're going to lose your money, and you don't have enough money to replace the loss. And that's what gambling does. So, gambling takes from working people. And there's no way for the working people to replace what they lose. Anybody who's been to Vegas or Atlantic City or any of the Indian casinos, you can't win. You can't. NFL, with that spread, that's all AI. You can't beat them. You may think you can. Now I know the reason why so many people are betting. It's fun. Gives you emotion in the game. But I'll tell you what, this continues, it's gonna make the nation poorer. The money you should be saving, money you should have for important things. You're not gonna have. Smart life.

This Day in History, April 22nd, 1889, the land rush of Oklahoma, this is a fascinating story. In the beginning, when the Europeans came over to settle the New World, they pushed the Indians west. Andrew Jackson was the big guy on that. So the Indians, they had Massachusetts, Maine, Florida, they're settled. But the Europeans wanted that land. So they pushed them out west of the Mississippi to land that was considered almost unusable. This was a terrible violation of Native American rights, of which there were none back then. So they're out in Oklahoma, where it's the Dust Bowl. But then irrigation is invented. And all the land in these arid states becomes usable. Well, guess who wants that land? European settlers. So on this day, 137 years ago, the government set up a program where 50,000 people, 50,000, were lined up and then a cannon went off, and they all ran out into Oklahoma and staked claims for land. Now, you couldn't get over a certain amount of acreage. I forget the number, but it was limited to a certain number of acres. And Native Americans could get on that too, but come on. You know what the fix was in there. So this led to the formation of the Oklahoma Organic Act, which led to statehood. So that was one of the biggest land rushes in world history. 50,000 people grabbed that land, and they did it in covered wagons, they did it on horseback, they did it on foot. And there were more than a few conflicts, people shooting at each other. So it was not a nonviolent thing, pretty chaotic. And that happened as I said 137 years ago today. Okay, I got the mail. I think that's the first time in my entire career I've had to ask my staff to bring me a script during the show. We'll read some of that, and we've got a final thought that you're gonna like, my new book. You'll see it first, back in a moment.

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We want you to go on our YouTube channel, please. It's free, youtube.com/BillOReilly. So we got an interesting commentary on traitors, people who are rooting for Iran to defeat the USA. You know, one of them's in the Senate. Pretty bad, pretty bad. I broke the story on News Nation. And now Murphy, the guy in question, is in trouble. So we carry the analysis further. Again, free channel, youtube.com/BillOReilly. Hope you check it out. Also want you to check out our fantastic hats for our 250th birthday, which is July 4th. We're celebrating on July 4, 250 years of the United States of America. You need a hat. You need five hats, okay. You can give them away. And you can have a little soiree or whatever. They're fabulous. So we want you to go to the BillOReilly.com store and get them. Word of the Day: do not be pawkey, P-A-W-K-Y, Pawky. All right, let's go to the aforementioned mail. Good job, they tracked it down for me. We got Josh. B in Charlotte, North Carolina. "When the Iran thing started, I expected to be done within four or five weeks because we would play hardball. Prices are still up. And if it is about America first, first, sorry about the throat, we can't worry about Iranian casualties. We should just demolish them and force a surrender." Can't kill civilians like that. Trump's not gonna do it. American people wouldn't back it. World wouldn't black it. Make us look terrible.

Evan Ortega. And Evan says, "I don't mind spending more on gas when it means Iran can't get a nuke. But I do mind spending on gas if we get a deal similar to the one President Obama engineered. Not a Trump hater, but I have a lot of concerns about how this has played out." I think everybody is concerned. Why wouldn't you be concerned? This is a very important story to the world.

Daniel Gallagher, Manhattan Beach, California. "With the increased gas prices, do we think oil companies are going to make increased profits?" Yes, we do, Daniel. Then he goes on to ask, "How do we determine it?" It is, you'll see, they have to issue quarterly reports, the oil companies. You'll see, compared to last year, how much profit they're making. They're gouging the hell out of us. I mean, it's not unusual for them. It's what they do.

Robert Deering, Ringgold, Georgia. "Why don't we sell Iran's oil to pay off the war effort?" Because we don't have Iran's oil. What do you want to do there? Send in American infantry to confiscate the oil? Is that what you want? And then we have a thousand U.S. Military, dead or wounded? Not going to happen. Let's stay in the real world here.

John. "Dan Rather and Sam Donaldson are disgraced founders of fake news. Thank you, Bill, for your courage and efforts to restore integrity to your profession. We'll be watching you on Monday." But Rather in Donaldson are both in their 90s, are not going to be at the dinner, but I do expect some disruption, which is why I'm going. I gotta be on the scene.

Steve. "A dinner for the media that hates President Trump? Why?" That's an interesting question. So Trump didn't go the first five times. Why is he going now? I'll ask him when I talk to him, but he's kind of preoccupied, but I don't know. Seems like he's opening some doors here that I don't know. However, we're on it.

James Libby, Elizabethtown, Tennessee. "I watched your interview with Julie Mastering of all sides about media bias among the news aggregators. You said that you get your news from Smart News. I added this app, and so far it looks to me like it has a left-wing bias." Not to me because it labels, smart news labels every. So if you see a left-wing concern, you can read it or not, but at least you know what it is. That's why I use Smart News. So Huffington Post, there it is, Huffington Post, okay. Am I gonna read anything in the Huffington Post? No. Why would I do that? Total waste of time. So they're at least up front. Now, do they carry more left-wing than right-wing articles? Maybe, but it's not a big margin.

Amy Villafane, New York City. "I've been watching the No Spin News since you were at Fox, and I missed the word pithy. Just want to thank you for reporting the truth." Pithy is a good word. Okay, we've got to keep things understandable. That's what really pithy, is you got to keep it understandable. I think we do a pretty good job here on that. Okay, that is the mail that we hunted down with this over here. And now we are going to introduce you to my new book after these messages.

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All right, final thought, the, and this was a killer to write. So my new book will be out in September. It is called Confronting America: What Has to Change. All right, that's a pithy title. Okay? And there I am, telling you what we need to get done here in order to have the most peace and prosperity we can. So it's a little bit different, but there's a lot of history in the book because I back up everything I say. So we need a change this, and here's why, and then I bring in the stories. But there's a lot about me in the books. And by necessity, because it's Confronting America, what has to change is my point of view. So I tell you a lot of stories that you have never heard about bad things, but some good things too, but the bad out numbers are good because we're trying to get the problem solved. Anyway, we just handed the book in on Sunday, three days ago, killer to write it because, you know, the research has to be impeccable. I've got to give it a lot of thought, not writing about Lincoln or Jesus, I'm writing about me, primarily, and how I see the country and what has to improve and why. And we don't spare anybody. No ideology in this book. Everybody comes in for scrutinization. Is that a word, scrutinization? Yes, it is, scrutinization. Anyway, throw that cover up one more time so people get it. You can pre-order the book, of course. It will be out in mid-September. We have had 20 number one New York Times bestsellers. That's a world record that will never be broken. And maybe this will be 21. What do you think? You won't be bored.

So, just to recap, on Saturday, we will be at the Washington Hilton for the big presidential sponsored by the White House Correspondence Association. Tomorrow, we will drop our long-form, entitled We'll Do It Live with Judge Jeanine Pirro. Nice enough to take the time. She's very busy here in D.C. I haven't talked to the judge in a long time, but we know each other for, God, gotta be 20 years. So we'll do a little comparison shopping on what she's doing and how different it is than Fox News. We're very pleased to have the judge. That should be a good long-form. It drops tomorrow early for our Premium and Concierge members, around noon and then later in the day for everybody else, okay? You are up to speed. I'm glad I made it down to DC. And anything happens in Iran, we'll be right on it. So stay @BillOReilly. That's our hook, @BillOReily. And then we will have a report on Sunday, pretty much. I'll write a late column on Sunday about the dinner. And then, we will have a live report on Monday, okay? Thank you for watching tonight. Have a great weekend. We'll see you on Monday.

The Rising Economic Impact of the Iran War, Public Approval of Congress Hits New Lows, Bruce Springsteen's Anti-Trump Tour & California's Controversial New Bill

2026-04-22T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, April 22, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Bill continues covering Iran, including Trump’s announcement that Iran will NOT execute eight protesters as scheduled and the war’s economic impact.
A look at just how low public approval of Congress has fallen.
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2026-04-22T19:22:00Z

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Will Trump Extend the Ceasefire?

2026-04-22T16:21:00Z

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Perhaps the biggest Trump hater on Capitol Hill is Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut. On Monday, someone writing on X put out that 26 Iranian vessels had evaded the US Navy located in the Straits of Hormuz.

To which Murphy responded, “awesome.”

Hard to believe that a sitting Senator is rooting for Iran, a terror state.

Murphy now says he was being sarcastic.

About what? What’s the point of the alleged sarcasm? There doesn’t seem to be one. My take is that Senator Murphy wants the United States to fail in the conflict against Iran because he despises President Trump and wants him to lose.

Not being sarcastic here. I believe that is Murphy’s mindset, and he’s not alone.

Of course, that point of view is loathsome when US military people are fighting for their country.

Senator Chris Murphy should be ashamed.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

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2026-04-21T22:00:00Z

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Will Trump Extend the Ceasefire?, the Press vs. the President, Exposing Extreme News Bias with Julie Mastrine & Chicago Blames ICE for Parade Cancellation

2026-04-21T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, April 21st, 2026. Stand up for your country. So a lot of confusion today with the Iran situation. The latest is, and this could change, changes hour by hour, that Vice President Vance, who was supposed to lead the negotiating team to Pakistan, has not left. He's still in D.C. because the mullahs won't, I guess, give the Trump administration any indication of cooperation. So we're not making any progress. The world is not making progress on this front. And I don't know, no one knows whether that will change. Just keep in mind two things. This is not a hard negotiation. All it is is that weapons inspectors from Austria would be allowed to go to Iran on a regular basis to see what their enrichment of uranium is and how they are tending to ballistic missiles. That's it. If Iran would agree to that, and why would you not if you weren't a warlock nation, then the whole thing would be over. But they won't agree, because they want this. The mullahs want this. In fact, they'd love President Trump to carpet bomb the country and kill 5,000 Persians. Mullahs would love that, love to see it happen. That's a trap they have laid. And going forward, we have to make a decision, we, the United States, on how to punish these people. It's a very difficult decision. But it's not a difficult negotiation. That's it. Let the weapons inspectors in, then everything would fall into place. All right, I hope we all understand that, that you're dealing here with a country that doesn't want the conflict to stop. It doesn't care if their own people are killed. Very tough. Very, very tough to deal with that. All right. So the delegation is standing by in Washington, I understand. It's Kushner. It's Witkoff. It's JD Vance. But they're not going anywhere unless they get a signal that Iran is willing to agree to some of these requests. So now we wait. And you can watch cable television all night long, all day long. You'll hear speculation after speculation after speculation. And none of it's true. It's just a guess.

The Talking Points Memo is what is not a guess. And what is true, what is actually happening. So the ceasefire will end tomorrow in Iran, 8 p.m. This evening, Tuesday, here in the USA. I assume President Trump will extend that ceasefire, but I don't know, and I'm almost going into the same trap of the television news industry, but I assume he's gonna extend it, hoping that some rationality comes in. The US Navy today, remember, they're ahead over there eight or nine hours, boarded another vessel and took it into custody. How many times did you hear Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz? How many times did you heard that? A hundred times? They do not control it, the US Navy controls it. Doesn't really help worldwide commerce because there is disruption, and the insurance companies based in London don't want to insure the tankers going in and out of Hormuz, and that delays everything. These tankers, the insurance on them, like 2 million a trip. But the U.S. Navy has control over that part of the world. All right, it has turned back so far, 27 ships. Wouldn't let them in, wouldn't let them out. Does that sound like Iran has control to you? That made me so angry with this, watching it. I just go, I'm a journalist, and I just see this, and they don't care whether they are misleading their audiences. They don't care what they say is true, which is why you're here. Now in Washington itself, there was a small demonstration, all left-wingers. These are veterans groups who go under the title of vets against fascism. About 120 of them turned out, and they demonstrated against Trump and the Iran conflict. Here's what one of them said. Go.

"My sons are 11 and 13. But we all know from Iraq, from Afghanistan, a war that's one month, that becomes six months, that becomes 6 years, that becomes a decade. I can see where this is going."

She has the perfect right to do that. She earned the right by being a vet. I may disagree, but I don't mind she's out there. 120 protesters showed up. About 60 were arrested. Nothing will happen to them. Okay, they'll be taken in, they will be processed, and then they'll be let go, and their charges will be dropped. That's what happens now. Now here's an interesting story. You may have heard me say Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut was the worst Trump hater on Capitol Hill, and it's true. So Murphy, on April 20th, gets involved in an X back and forth. And someone points out on X that 26 Iranian shadow vessels have bypassed a U.S. Blockade. Whereupon Murphy, a sitting senator, says, awesome. Like, that's good, I'm glad. So now Murphy, and if everybody had listened to me last week when I told you how crazy this guy is, Murphy, okay, here's what he says about it.

"I probably should give up on sarcasm on Twitter. Obviously, anybody that's seen anything that I have said about Trump's war knows that I think it's bungled mismanagement and should end it as quickly as possible. But sarcasm is not something I guess that's allowed on Twitter any longer.".

"Do you regret the post? Are you planning on taking it down?"

"I mean, I guess I just have to be more careful about sarcasm, on Twitter."

Sarcasm about what? What's the sarcasm? The post was that 26 Iranian vessels have evaded the U.S. Blockade, and you go awesome. What are you being sarcastic about? I'm not understanding. I don't understand what the sarcasm is. I don't believe the guy in the first place. He's happy that the vessel's evaded the U.S. He wants the Trump administration to lose the Iranian conflict. That's what I believe based upon his previous statements and what a hater he is. But his explanation, like I'm being sarcastic, about what? Sarcasm isn't in play here in any definition at all. Awesome? That's stupid. Now, if you said I was just being stupid, then I can probably agree with that. But I know that he wants Trump to lose. He's not alone. We did Friedman, Thomas Friedman in the New York Times last week. You do the same thing. I don't know. I don't want to give Trump a victory. Okay, and then there's The View. Now I'm picking on the ladies here because it's so insane what they're doing there. Roll the tape on that.

"None of it goes away, and that's why they are planning on a draft. They're planning on a draft. And you're bitching and moaning that there are women who are part of the Army, Navy, and you're getting rid of people, and you talk about who shouldn't be. What the hell are you people doing?"

"And what it is is they're changing that you no longer... Or you have to opt in, you just have to opt into the draft. Now it makes it automatic."

"It's a draft. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's a draft because if you are 18 to 25, they're looking at you."

"Well, they're increasing that age too."

"It how old is it?"

"I think it's 42."

Well, of course, there is no draft. There never will be a draft. The American people don't want a draft! But Whoopi Goldberg believes there's a direct. It's almost, you're just like, is this true? Or am I in a delusional state here? Finally, Pope Leo the story, thank God, is dying down. All right, the Pope's on his way back from Africa to Rome, but the press does not wanna let this one go. Roll the tape.

"So what do you say to people who see that, who see your criticism of the..."

"Nothing...I have no disagreement with the fact the pope can say what he wants, and I want him to say what he wants, but I can disagree. I think that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. If they do, the whole world would be in jeopardy. The Middle East will be blown up, and the whole world will be in jeopardy."

Now, Trump believes that, okay? This is, I guess, Pope Leo believes something. I'm not as sure what Pope Leo believes, because he hasn't articulated what he believes. I'd like to know what he believes, but I don't. But I know Trump believes that Iran would use the nuclear weapon. And he's not gonna change that belief. So, you know, recapping, we don't know where the state of the negotiations are, okay? We believe that the ceasefire will be extended a bit. We have no idea how this is all going to come out. We know some in the press and on Capitol Hill are rooting against their own country. And, we know Donald Trump can't afford to lose this. And that's the memo.

Okay, so left-wing bias in the press is not just on cable television and network television. It's in the internet big time. Apple News, Google News, Yahoo, and others. Here is a study put out by a group called All Sides, which I just learned about. Interesting group. And they studied three of the big ones where people go for information. The first is Google News. One percent of the articles that you read on Google News are from right-leaning outlets. 73% are from left-leaning. Apple News, 2% of articles you read are from the right-leaning outlet, 50% left leaning, and finally, Yahoo News, 2% of the articles you read on Yahoo, right-leaning outlets supplied them, 53% are from left-leaning outlets. Now, why should we care? Joining us from Evansburg, Pennsylvania, is Julie Mastrine, the director of communications and bias ratings for All Sides. So why should I care about this? I can see the left-wing bias on television for myself. Why, why do I- need to go to Google and Apple and all of these things to reinforce that?

"Well, the thing is that a lot of Americans, when they're using these news aggregation apps, they likely think that they're getting a broad view because the aggregators have the appearance of curating from various media outlets. So what we did at All Sides is we applied our 2,400 media bias ratings to see if these aggregators are really balanced and they're not, you know, but most of them are on the left. Most of these news, aggregators, especially the big ones like you just highlighted, at Google, Apple, Yahoo. Really, when you're using those apps, you are mostly seeing news from left-leaning or left-rated media. And the danger of that is that it just gives you the appearance of getting a broad view when really you're ensconced inside a filter bubble. You're not getting diverse views. And then how are you gonna be able to think for yourself, right? So, you know, Bill, you might be aware of the left-wing bias in the press, but other Americans like... They might not be, they might be thinking that they're just getting down the road news, down the middle news. And it's not."

So I go to Yahoo News, for example, I go there and I want to learn about Pope Leo and his stance on just war and Iran. So I just punch up Pope Leo, right? I just punched it up. And then what you're telling me is that the coverage of Pope Leo would be put out almost 100 percent by left-wing media people. Do I have it?

"Close, we did do an analysis of Google search. So when you put in a specific search term like you just described, what types of media outlets are being returned? Now we did that during 2024 during the election cycle, and we found that Google search results were 68% biased to the left for terms like Harris News, Trump News, you know, election news, that sort of thing. Now we didn't do the same analysis for Yahoo. For Yahoo News, what we did is we just looked at whenever you go to YahooNews.com, and you're looking at what's aggregated there, what do you see? Like how many articles are coming from the left AP, or lean left New York Times, or lean left CNN versus Fox News on the right? So that's really what we were measuring with our news aggregator analysis."

Do these articles, does Yahoo and the others identify where they're from?

"No, no, and that's the thing. They're not transparent about the perspective that these outlets are coming from."

So it comes in and gets spit out as fact?

"Yeah, and that's why All Sides exist. We make the bias of these media outlets transparent because we think Americans deserve to know what angle the news is coming from, so that they can make an informed decision themselves about what they think."

Okay, so this is the big thing now. It's gonna overcome cable and network news. It's probably already done that. I mean, my YouTube operation has just skyrocketed into the millions, but it's me, and people know it's me. And so if you're gonna consume it, you have a kind of a basis of fact that here's O'Reilly and this is what O'Reilly has done in his career. People understand that. But the anonymous articles, the articles where you don't know who's writing them or how they got there, this kind of exposition or fact-finding, whatever you want to call it, this is going to be in the future, really, what Americans depend on to get information, correct?

"Well, right now, Google News, Apple News, they have in the tens of millions of daily users. So people are really relying on these apps, these news aggregation apps, to get the rundown of current events. But the trouble is, is that it can be very sinister and even manipulative if these big tech companies are only showing people news from one side. So they really have a decision to make. Do they believe they have a civic responsibility to help Americans get a broad view and think for themselves? Or do they essentially want to be one-sided propaganda outlets that are just showing people news from one side, and you know, I can explain how we come up with these bias ratings, because it's actually very interesting and based on surveys of Americans and panels of experts."

Okay, well, we trust that All Sides is doing the research the way it should be done. But my point is now, it's almost to the overwhelming on the left, they are dominating the messaging in America by using the apps. And then in combination, they've got three out of the four cable networks. And they have all three of the networks, the traditional networks. So it's a dominant information flow to the left in this country. Am I wrong?

"I would say that you're right. If you're looking at the major cable networks, most of them, we rate lean left or left. And then also, if you're using these news aggregation apps, you're mostly going to be seeing content from left-leaning and left media. So there is a left-wing narrative dominance in that respect. And it really is the case that the news on the right is more buried. Like you said, most of these news aggregators, they're curating less than 10% of news from outlets on the right. So that's a really small percentage. And Google and Apple..."

And then the decision to do this was made, we assume, by the executives who run these operations. We assume that they wanted to do that, so that's how they set it on up.

"They're very aware of our analysis, you know, and they kind of seem to be denying that it's a problem and downplaying the problem. And we're just bringing this to light so that Americans can understand that if they rely on one of these aggregation apps, they might not be getting a balance. Well, they're not getting a balanced view."

Well, if you get booked by CBS, ABC, NBC, or CNN, you let me know right away. Because they're not going to put you on the air to tell everybody this. Final question, AI. So AI is going to sweep in, and you're going to be able to get the same access that you get now, but it's going to be a more vivid display of information driven by artificial intelligence. Do you expect the fix will be in the same way it is in now?

"I mean, it's already starting to transform the news industry. We know that media outlets are using AI. Often, it's not very transparent that they're using AI. Sometimes, they're not very public about the ways that this is being fed into their news content. So, we're really focused on media literacy, we want there to be transparency, and we're gonna continue to develop tools that, without saying that we're gonna not use AI to help with our work. It's not really a technology we want to totally shun, but we also want people to be able to understand when it's being used, where it's been used, and how it might contribute to bias. We actually did about-"

Yeah, that'll be interesting to see because it's a lot cheaper for news organizations to use AI than regular human beings. And that's what's going to happen. They're going to be putting this electronic stuff out there with very little supervision because they don't want to pay a couple of hundred thousand dollars in health, and salary to a human being. All right, Julie, very good. I'm glad I could bring this to everybody's attention. And if you have any other good stories, please let us know right away, okay?

"Absolutely. Thank you, Bill."

DC. So I have to go to this correspondence dinner on Saturday. I don't want to go. You've got to put on a stupid tux. You've got to deal with a lot of unpleasant people. It's a mess getting in and out of there because Donald Trump's going to be there for the first time. And I understand the first lady, Melania Trump, is also going to be there. And, I don't want to go. But I have to go, because it's a big story. And the story is, how are these people at the Washington Hilton going to behave? Now, we're getting a preview. So Dan Rather and Sam Donaldson, Dan Rather, 94 years old, Sam Donaldson, 92, have both signed a letter, along with 248 other journalists, urging the press to, quote, forcefully demonstrate opposition to President Trump during the White House dinner. Well, what does that mean? Forcibly? Now, you've got the Secret Service in there, and I'm sure you'll have other security, but if somebody does something untoward, I'm going to stand up and say something. I'm just not going to sit there passively and do it. I guess I'm a cop now, but that's one of the reasons I'm going. I don't expect there to be any physical confrontations. I did write about this in my message of the day on BillOReilly.com if you want to see it. But all these people, Rather and Donaldson, these are long, long time leftists who despise Trump. And now they're calling for forcibly demonstrate opposition. What does that mean? I will find out, and I'll report back on Monday. So I got to get down there tomorrow to D.C., I'll tell you about it in a minute. And it's not about Donald Trump. In fact, Donald Trump has very little to do with why I'm there. It's about the office of the presidency. And if you, as a journalist, and you've got to be an accredited one to get into this dinner, if you're going to demean the office or the presidency, I'm going to make that known. Right there and then, and then subsequently afterward. So we may have some fireworks brewing here. But this is my job.

Alright, Chicago, Cinco de Mayo. They say they canceled the parade because they fear ICE. It's not true. Again, it's so ridiculous. So Cinco De Mayo is the big parade that honors Hispanic Americans, and it was canceled in Chicago in 2018 and '19 due to a lack of support. Okay, it means nobody was going to show up. In 2024, just two years ago, the parade had about 5,000 people, and then shots were fired by rival gangs. Nice, Chicago, way to go, okay? So there's so much swirling around, they've canceled Cinco de Mayo. But they're blaming it on ICE, but ICE doesn't have anything to do with it. I thought you'd like to know that. So, there's a conservative congressman in Texas, Chip Roy, and he is introducing the Mamdani Act to denaturalize and deport socialists. Quote, "The bill would deport, denaturalize, deny you a citizenship or entry to any alien who's a member of a socialist party, communist party, Chinese communist party, Islamic fundamentalist party or advocates of socialism, communism, Marxism or Islamic fundamentalism." Okay, so Chip Roy wants to throw them out of the country. You can't. It's legal to be a communist in this country and a socialist and a fundamentalist as long as you're not violent. And Roy is doing this to get attention, of course, he's a far-right guy, that's what he does. He knows he's not going anywhere. Of course, they'll throw it out in a heartbeat. And they should. We don't want to be that kind of a country. Now, they get out of line, they do something illegal, you go get them. Go get them! But, Mamdani, who's a communist. He got elected legitimately. You know, I don't know whether you're following the story about the New York Mets have lost 11 in a row, but Mamdani hugged and Mr. Mett. Okay, Mr. Mett is the mascot. Since that hug, the Mets have lost 10 straight, 11 overall. So it's a curse of Mamdani.

Smart life, 50% of Americans. Ages late 40s, early 50s, are worried about their retirements. So they say they don't have enough assets to live after they hang it up. It's according to Black Rock Survey, 1,000 registered voters. 80% have done really not much with the retirement accounts they could access. All right, 10% invested more money in the entire main accounts, these are IRAs, and on and on, but it's very low. And so the people who are in the latter parts of their careers say, we don't know whether we can make it in the retirement world. 31% say they have no retirement at all, no savings at all. 28% say they've got 150,000 or less. Okay, so that puts it up at about 60% who are in financial jeopardy. And 76% of retired registered voters are already out, okay, wish they had saved more money. So do I feel sorry for these people? I do not. I do not. We have mechanisms now to save for retirement tax-free. IRA, Roth IRA, on and on. All you have to do is save your money and put it into these accounts, and then the accounts are invested for you, and they grow. And you don't bother to do that? And am I supposed to pick up your tab for being retired then when it's already there, but you didn't do it? No. I'm not doing it, and I'm sympathetic. Smart life. Okay? I mean, you gotta hold people accountable.

Disney. So over President's Day weekend, if you wanted to go to the Magic Kingdom, just the Magic Kingdom, cost you 219 bucks for one single day ticket. So, a family of four, you're approaching $1,000. And you get going to rides and meet and greet, parades, whatever. How much higher can Disney go? How much higher can you go? And this is not, you know, there's a lot of different things in Disney. Epcot, there's everything. This is just Magic Kingdom. The magic is that anybody would pay this. I wouldn't pay this, okay? I'd take the urchins to some adventure park or something like that. I know they want to go, but come on. A thousand for a family of four? A day for just the Magic Kingdom? That doesn't even include water or Coke. Crazy.

This Day in History, April 21st, 1836, Texas, all right, wins the battle of San Jacinto, booting out Mexico. ,So Mexico was always chaotic, always. Still is, and it was the only state subsequently controlled by six different entities. Six. The Mexican government controlled it in the early 19th century, and that was before France, and then Spain, and then the Confederate states, and then the Union, and on and on. Okay, San Jacinto. So Sam Houston was the general. And he does a surprise attack on Santa Ana, the Mexican general. 630 Mexicans killed in 17 minutes. 208 wounded, 730 captured, nine Texians. They called them Texians back then, dead. 630 dead on the Mexican side, nine dead on the US side. Santa Ana gives up. They take him into custody, he signs a treaty, and Texas is free. But the authorities in Washington go, wait a minute. You're going to be a state. And then they became a state, Texas. But the Confederates then co-opted them to be in the Confederacy. Very interesting history in Texas. But the big battle, San Jacinto, and that was after the Alamo, the cry was, Remember the Alamo. Amazing victory, though, by Sam Houston. All right, we'll be back with some provocative mail, and I'll tell you about my DC jaunt in a moment.

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Okay, YouTube, I'm taking this guy, Tapper, Jake Tapper, to task here. Kind of sneaky guy in my opinion. So that is on our YouTube channel, youtube.com/BillOReilly. We showed you yesterday that we got a plaque from YouTube congratulating us for more than a million subs subscribers. We hope you will become one. No downsides, free. Lots of good stuff on there for us. Okay, let's go to the mail. John. "I watched Jake Tapper, and I think his coverage is pretty even-handed toward Trump, all things considered. I mean, you have to admit, there's a lot to question about Trump's administration." Well, we have a gentleman's disagreement. So John, Tapper was on Stephen Colbert. Take a look at that. Okay, come on. You gotta live in the real world here. Tapper hates Trump, and he's not fair to Trump. But I respect your opinion.

Michael, Concierge Member. Michael has direct access to me, might check that program out on BillOReilly.com. If you get in trouble, my crew will help you. "Left and right people are going to seek out sources of information that support and validate their ideology. Increasingly, those sources are social media." That's why we did the segment tonight. "Your No Spin broadcasts are the high points of my week." Well, we're not involved with any of the agenda-driven ideology at all. I got a letter from a guy who says, Hey, how come you don't say you're conservative? Because I'm not. I'm an ideologue by any stretch. I'm independent, number one, and then I lean traditional in my points of view, generally speaking. But I'm not an ideologue. We don't do that here. And we've been very successful not doing it.

Rosanna Salient. "Dear Mr. O, I hope you're doing well. I consider myself a devout Catholic, love my faith and my church. However, I much dislike the Pope's comments. I'd be more positively receiving his statements if he had previously condemned the Iranian regime." They never do that. They don't do it. Because they figured that that might lead to more violence, so they just don't do it. You've got to understand, you know, what the modus operandi is, to use a little Latin.

Bonnie Reynolds, Gilbertville, Massachusetts. "I watched Victor David Hanson, in his own words, say recently that the Pope, before he became Pope, was active on social media criticizing President Trump and that Trump's reaction might have been a response to those criticisms." Possible. possible. I mean, Trump has put the Pope, Leo, in the same category as Francis, and there's a difference. So Francis was an open-border guy, not just in the USA, but everywhere. You don't impede the migrants, they have a right to go where they want. That was Francis. Leo, when he got in there, said, Oh, countries do have a right to regulate their borders and the law should be upheld. I don't know if Trump has got that memo. They're not the same.

Philip Merkin, Wicklive, Ohio. "I don't think President Trump should take out the Iranian utilities. Making the people of Iran live in the darkness does not punish the right group. Iranians have to do that themselves. Take out their nukes, open the straits, and end it." Well, you can't take out their nuke without infantry. So that's not happening, because the American people do not want ground troops in Iran. But we could do it, but there's no way popular opinion is going to support that. Not going to happen. Okay, we want you to get the greatest hats in the country right now, 250 America. Remember, this is coming up fast now. The World Cup and big July 4th, and you need these hats, and plus, it'll keep the sun off your face, very important. I designed them, you'll love them. BillOReilly.com store has them. Word of the Day: no flummery. I love that. F-L-U-M-M E-R-Y, no Flummery, Bill@BillOReilly.com, Bill@BillOReilly.com, name and town if you wish to opine. Back with a final thought in a moment.

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Pope Leo's Role in Trump Feud

2026-04-21T19:27:00Z

Chad C. Pecknold, Ph.D., associate professor at The Catholic University of America, weighs in on whether Pope Leo has done anything wrong in his feud with Trump and how the media has used the situation to undermine Trump.

O'Reilly & Mark Simone on the Obama-Mamdani Alliance

2026-04-21T19:25:00Z

Bill and Mark Simone scrutinize the budding friendship between ultra-wealthy Barack Obama and New York City’s communist mayor Zohran Mamdani.

O'Reilly on President Trump's 'Biggest Gamble'

2026-04-21T17:13:00Z

Bill joins Batya Ungar-Sargon on NewsNation to discuss the current situation in Iran.

Iran War Uncertainty: What's the Likely Outcome?

2026-04-21T16:21:00Z

A rundown of Bill's speech at St. Edward’s Church in Palm Beach and the latest in Iran.

O'Reilly on Barack Obama's Waning Influence with 'Cats & Cosby'

2026-04-21T15:16:00Z

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White House Correspondents' Dinner

2026-04-21T07:12:00Z

This coming Saturday, I will be attending the White House Correspondents’ Dinner because it should be an interesting story. For the first time as President, Donald Trump will present at the function, and already, disenchantment has appeared.

94-year-old Dan Rather and 92-year-old Sam Donaldson both signed a letter urging the press attendees to “forcefully demonstrate opposition” to President Trump AT THE DINNER! I’m not sure how you do that, but I am digesting the word “forcefully.”

I worked for Rather and was in proximity to Donaldson at ABC News. Both men are liberal lions who did not hide their ideology from viewers. They carry that legacy to this day.

Hopefully, the press will respect the office of the presidency on Saturday. If they do not, I will confront them. Not a threat, an advisement. Rather and Donaldson will not be there, but I do expect some inappropriate displays by ardent leftists. If those happen, there will be a response by your humble correspondent.

This isn’t about Donald Trump. It’s about the office he holds. A no-disrespect zone will be enforced.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

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2026-04-21T00:48:00Z

[pol·troon] an utter coward.

Iran War Uncertainty: What's the Likely Outcome?, Chad C. Pecknold on Pope Leo's Role in Trump Feud & Clarence Thomas's Controversial Lecture

2026-04-20T22:00:00Z

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Iran War Uncertainty: What's the Likely Outcome?, Chad C. Pecknold on Pope Leo's Role in Trump Feud & Clarence Thomas's Controversial Lecture

2026-04-20T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Monday, April 20th, 2026. Stand up for your country. Well, as I reported last week, I went down to South Florida to give a speech to a Catholic church. And this was booked way, way before the Trump-Pope Leo controversy. And I walked into the hall at St. Edward's Basilica in Palm Beach, I didn't know what to expect. And that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. It was pretty calm. Nobody was angry. People were confused a bit, and that's where I come in, but there wasn't a vibe in the air that somebody did something wrong or I'm preferring this person over that person. The crowd was traditional. I wouldn't say conservative. It wasn't a MAGA crowd. It was one guy with a MAGA hat. One out of about 500. And the crowd was churchgoers, people who have an association with St. Edward's, but not a political crowd. I didn't pick that up at all because it was an extensive Q&A after my opening remarks. And it wasn't like, oh, how can he do this? Or how can this guy do that? Or how could Trump say this? Or how can Pope Leo... no, it wasn't like that at all. It was basically what the deuce is happening in a very calm way, and there were more women than men at the event because it was in the morning. I would say confusion. There was some confusion in the room. And of course, everybody wanted to know what the likely outcome of the Iranian conflict will be. And of course, I don't know. Only Jesus knows or God or whatever you want to classify it as, because I don't know what's going to happen there. I can give you odds. I can tell you what's happening, and I certainly will this evening, but how's it all going to come out? This is just way, way too much stuff that we don't know in the air.

So I wrote a column yesterday about this, and I quoted a man from Pennsylvania who wrote me a letter, and he was heated. He was mad that we're involved with this, and he didn't like it at all, and I quoted him. So that column is on BillOReilly.com. I don't want to reread it or be redundant. This evening, you want to read it, there it is. We do a Sunday column every week. In addition to every day, we do a message. And it's all free on BillOReilly.com, there's no fee for it. And the dilemma is that the media gets involved. And I said very clearly, I can mediate this. I could mediate in a half an hour. I'd have them both on the same team, both the pope and the president, and they'd be buddies. It's not hard, because they're not really opposed to one another. They're annoyed with one another. It's a big difference between being annoyed and being opposed. Now, President Trump's annoyed because he wants the Vatican to support actions against evil. And again, that's Confronting Evil. Ayatollah Khomeini on the cover of that book, and President Trump is going, look, I'm trying to save the lives of human beings here. And you, the Holy See, are in that business, so why aren't you on my side? The Pope's point of view, and he is now backing away from that a bit, is that we don't like any of this conflict. We don't want any of it. Kind of unrealistic, and that's coming from a Catholic. Because conflict has always been with human beings, since Cain and Abel. Cain and Abel, you don't know who Cain and Abel are, you got to get busy. You've got to go, you know, where the conflict has always been there. And the peacemakers, remember blessed are the peacemakers for they shall see God, I believe it is. Their mandate is to lessen the conflict. So, Poblio doesn't want the conflict, you don't want any of this, he doesn't want bellicosity, he does want threats, he's not going to blow you up, he doesn't want any of that. At the same time, I think the pope understands the danger from Iran, I think, because he's never spelled it out, and that's not what the Vatican does.

Okay, they didn't spell out the danger of 9/11, they condemn the action, but they're not political scientists over there. They don't get involved with that at that level. The pope made a mistake injecting himself into this without answering obvious questions. Is the Vatican okay with Iran having a nuclear weapon? If you're going to get involved, you've got to be able to answer that question. That's a key question because that's what it's all about. All right, here's the latest that we have. This Iran controlling the Straits of Hormuz is just bull, I told you this last week. This is just a bunch of garbage, and it's spit out there by the irresponsible media. Iran can launch some drones. It can put mines in the water. That's not control of anything. Okay, so on Saturday, more than 30 ships passed through there, the Straits because the US Navy is now controlling what happens. Today it was much less. I'm not exactly sure why that number is going down, but the insurance companies have everything to do with this. So the ships that go through can't go through unless the insurance companies uphold the policies. That's a big part of this. And if the insurance company thinks there's grave danger or whatever, then they stop. Then China is also a factor here, and we don't know anything about what China is doing. Now, President Trump has sent JD Vance, the Vice President. And you remember on Friday that all the media was saying JD Vans isn't going, and he failed. All a bunch of bull. I mean, I'm sitting there watching lie after lie after lie from these people. We're talking CNN and MS and, you know, the newspapers, the urban newspaper. They don't care if what they report is true. They don't care. It's like the Revolutionary Guard, which apparently now controls Iran; they don't care how many Iranians get killed, they'll kill them themselves. It's the same thing.

Anyway, our negotiating team is in Pakistan. Nobody knows whether Iran is going to show up. Wednesday, the treaty, the two-week ceasefire, stops. Nobody knows what's going to happen. That's where we are. It's dangerous that the Revolutionary Guard is in control. You'd want to have some kind of moderation or civilian, and these people are just fanatical. Everybody dies, everybody dies. It's another challenge. Let me get the number for you. I got it here. Three ships crossed today through the Strait of Hormuz. 24 ships crossed through on Saturday. I want to get the number down. Finally, price of gas is pretty much a dollar more than it was before the Iranian action began. And that's another consideration, not for me, but for a lot of Americans. They don't want to pay any more money for gas. Again, the follow-up question is, are you okay with Iran having a nuke? And then your gas bill goes down. Is that the trade that you want? Yeah, the answer is some Americans go yeah, I don't care whether they have a nuke. You go like this, but then there's the all, how do we know, and I get into that in the column, and that's the memo. All right. So the pope is in Africa. He's in Equatorial Guinea. The reason he went over there is that the continent is rising in Catholics, where most other places are receding. And he issued a statement trying to tamp down any feud with President Trump. Go.

"The talk that I gave at the prayer meeting for peace a couple of days ago was prepared two weeks ago, well before the president ever commented on myself and on the message of peace that I am promoting. And yet, as it happens, it was looked at as if I was trying to debate again the president, which is not my interest at all."

I'm glad he said that, and I believe every word he put out there, that the peace statement that he had about the Iranian situation was issued a long time ago, but when it came out, it collided, and Mr. Trump didn't like it, and then the media, here we come. Let's gin up the controversy. So, the Pope is going to be back in Rome, April 24th, around there. And that is an update. I think we've covered it. That's where we are. Joining us now from Washington is Dr. Chad Pecknold. He's an Associate Professor of Systematic Theology at the Catholic University of America. Catholic U, we played them in football way back when I was at Marist College, it's not, you wouldn't say it's a liberal university, would you, Catholic U at this point?

"No, I mean as universities go, it's less liberal than your average liberal place, but you know, a conservative in a university is a unicorn, so there's not many of us."

Okay, but you're not talking about a radical campus like George Washington or American University or these places that hate Israel and all that. We're not talking about that, right?

"That's right. We have all the usual kind of dynamics of every American university, but we also have this sense that we are tied to the teachings of the Catholic Church. It's the church that founded the university. So we, I think, have some sort of stability, unlike a lot of woke colleges."

Okay, so you're deeply invested then in Pope Leo and how he's treated and what he says. And do you believe that Pope Leo did anything wrong here?

"Well, I mean, you know, I think always with the pope and with presidents, it's always best to blame people around them and the person, I mean, I think there is a whole comms team around the pope, and there's a whole comms team around the president. And I think we have to, you know, maybe reassess how they're going to think about future discourse between the pope and the president, this is like 2,000 years of conflict between popes and kings should tell us that we should manage this carefully. And I think we're gonna see a lot more of this. But yeah, I think the Pope did not know that he was locked into a media..."

No, I agree. I don't think the pope knew that this was going to stir it up, but he should have known.

"He should have, and his people should have known."

Right, because Francis, his predecessor, got into a lot of controversy by basically being an open-border guy.

"Exactly. And we've had this problem in the church for a while, you know, for many, many years, Catholics in America were Democrats. And now we face a different reality in the Catholic Church in this country, where something like 56 or 58% are Republicans, and many support the president. And so we have a new dynamic. A lot of older Catholics, and certainly that would include bishops, you are still sort of thinking that they should be helpful to the Democratic Party's line as far as they can be. That involved the church in all sorts of contracts with the government to help migrants at the borders. And I think we've gotten some fuzziness from the church on these issues of immigration. And so it's not surprising that we also still have fuzziness on just war theory. I think, you know, the church's teaching is very clear in print. You know, if you look up the catechism, the catechism is extremely clear about the criteria for just war, and who has the competent authority to make a judgment about its justice. It's not the Pope. It's the government authorities who have that."

But I noticed, you know, while Francis was very pro-immigrant and an open border guy that didn't want any restraint, as soon as Leo came in, and I put this into the Leo's American citizen category, Leo said that no, countries have a right to control their borders. And they have a right to enforce their laws, he said that very, very quickly on, distancing himself from Francis. Now, President Trump didn't get that memo, okay? For some reason, he didn't, he don't get that memo at all because one of the reasons that he wailed on Leo and brought in soft on crime was the border. I don't even know if President Trump knew that Leo came in and said, No, I'm different from Francis. I do believe in law enforcement, in migratory affairs. I'm guessing here, I did not talk to President Trump about it, but he did link it in. And therefore, you know, I don't like popes, that was Trump's line, who are soft on and da-da-da.

"Which of course the pope is not soft on crime and the church's teaching isn't soft on crime, but we have this tradition, and especially on the back of Francis and what the media did, I think you're exactly right, Bill, the media has ginned up this controversy because they've been in the habit now for the last decade or more of using the pope for their own purposes."

They can't get enough of it, and still to this day, they're still doing it, trying to undermine President Trump by using the Pope's moral authority. But the Pope made a mistake, in my opinion, as I just said in the memo. If you're going to make a very powerful statement about just war, and there's a simple reason why the war is taking place, and the simple reason is that U.S. Intelligence believes the mullahs are weeks away from being able to weaponize uranium. And if you're going to get involved with that, then you have to answer essential questions. Is the Vatican okay with that? But the pope doesn't want to do that. He wants to stay in the theological realm, or am I wrong?

"Well, I don't even know if they're staying in the theological realm. I think this was an issue on immigration when the vice president met with the bishops last year. You know, there's a kind of vague virtue signaling that happens both with war, which sort of vaguely signals in favor of pacifism, and a vagueness about the rights of the migrant against the dignity of the nation and securing the common good of the Nation. We don't get specificity from the bishops. We don't get specificities from the Pope. I am very happy for the pope and for bishops to intervene in our national conversation. I don't think that Christianity is a private thing. I don't think it has a place in our public discourse. I think it's absolutely central. But I think bishops and popes absolutely need to recover their kind of technical interest in these."

Or their moral authority.

"Or their moral authority. If you don't want a nuclear bomb, I mean, I'm against nuclear proliferation, so is the Pope, so is the church teaching, so is Donald Trump. So we're all actually on the same page that we don't want nukes, right? But how do you get rid of them? When you've got a nation that has a death to America day, they celebrate death to America for, you know, what is it, 37 years they've chanted death to America, and they want to develop a uke. You know, we can't simply wave our hands at peace and think that we should do nothing. And so I think when the Pope or when bishops want to intervene, and they should intervene when they feel a need, they need to bring specifics."

No, it's called responsibility to back up your assertion, but I'm going to disagree with you, Doctor, a little bit. 60 Minutes cherry-picked three liberal bishops to back up the Leo point of view. They didn't seek out...They didn't seek out any conservative bishops, and there are conservative bishops. So 60 Minutes took the three that were gonna pound Trump, put them on the air, and that's not unusual for them, that's what they do, that's what they do. But the Vatican is a bureaucracy, as you well know. If you go against Pope Leo in any way at all publicly and you're a bishop, you're toast, you're done. He... They're not going to book that. So there is a fear about conservative clerics in the Catholic Church speaking out about this. So I went to mass on Sunday, as I usually do. There wasn't a word about this, don't, they don't want anything to do with this thing, okay. I mean, I would, we got Isaac, we got Jeremiah, we had a whole bunch of, we didn't get any Iran. Okay, and in the sermon, because they go, whoa, we don't want to get on the wrong side of this. Vatican is a huge operation, and it is a secular operation the way it runs. Last word.

"Yeah, I mean, I think that's true in a sense, you know, that, you know, the Catholic Church has taught the mafia how to behave, you know, with a very sort of strict line of command. When the Pope says something, then we follow it."

You follow it, and if you don't...

"I think, you know, the Catholic laity are the ones who have to speak up about these things. You speak up these things, I speak up those things, J.D. Vance speaks up about these things and, you know, Catholic, the catholic laity, you know, have rights to speak to. And, you know, I think it's often been the case that Catholic rulers have often led the way on these questions. And I think we do need greater specificity. I don't think these disputes between a pope and a president are going away. I think we're going to see more of this. Whoever the next president is will continue to see more of that. So I think we actually have to..."

That'd be interesting. But I think there's going to be a little detente here between Leo and Trump. I think this is going to lessen now.

"I believe that too. I think we've found a resolution."

Alright, doctor, thanks very much for helping us out. Really appreciate it. Down in Texas, Clarence Thomas gave a rare speech. 77 years old, longest-serving Supreme Court justice. You know, Thomas doesn't say a lot, but here's what he told the Longhorns. Go.

"I think if we don't stand up and take ownership of our country and take responsibility for it, we are slowly letting others control how we think and what we think. I think the beauty of going to school is that you learn how to think for yourself. You develop the discipline to think things through. If you think it's losing confidence, then you get up and you participate. You don't sit on the sidelines."

Okay, I think the little message that was hidden there was you've got to take ownership of your country, and you've got to let your opinion be known. And I'm for that more than anyone because I've made my living for 50, actually 30 years doing commentary, 20 years as a reporter. However, you've got to know what you're talking about. The worst thing in the world is for some dumb ideologue to run out there and start spouting about stuff. They have no blanking clue. That's why I respected this crew in St. Edwards in Florida. They were there to seek information. They weren't there to see my validation or anything like that. They didn't know what I was going to say. They wanted as much information as they could get, and I gave it to them, just like I'm giving it to you right now. That's the key to a responsible American citizenry. All right, the Vatican, particularly Pope Francis, who I liked him, I spent a little time in his presence. He was a big liberation theology guy, as Leo is. Leo's not as big as Francis. The reason I'm going back to this is because one of their themes is, look, you can't keep people down at the poverty. You've got to give them a way out to have lives that matter. You have to. That's a moral imperative. We do that better than anybody on earth. The United States, but you wouldn't know it by the progressive media and the Bernie Sanders crew. You'd think that we were some kind of fascist nation that, you know, has a boot on everybody's neck.

Well, here are the stats. There's a letter called the Kobeissi letter, okay? It's a stat, do stats, economic stats. I always encourage everybody to watch this program with a pen and paper. I'm gonna give you the stats now. Write them down. There are 135 million American households. 135 million is your family unit. Okay. Out of that, there are 430,000 households with a net worth of $30 million or more. So they're wealthy. 430,000 out of 135 million. So, most people here are not. All right, and a lot of people are trying to get wealthy. There's 74,000 households that are worth more than $100 million. I mean, they're the yacht people, yacht rock or whatever. Okay, they are the Palm Beach people. Now that is not a big crew, and it's something to ascribe to, and you can get there in this country. Can't get there in Russia, China or Europe. You cannot get there. No pathway at all, none. The government will prevent you from getting there. Okay, so wages for higher, you know, for people who have good jobs are up about six percent this year over last year. So Trump did pretty well there, or has done pretty well. Wages are coming up, highest level in three years, blowing Biden away. You'd never know it, it's not reported. Now that's not going to get you into the super-rich category, or even the wealthy category. If you work for somebody else, you're not getting there, unless you're an NBA or Major League Baseball player, you know, or somebody like that, maybe a movie star, but even movie stars now, they can't get there. Gotta work for yourself. And the reason that there has been an increase in the top US household chain is because of high tech. The Bezos people, all right, where they started in the 90s, and now it's AI, and this is Musk, and all of these people, they figured it out. Formed the companies, money came rolling in, all tech money. And now there's another surge with artificial intelligence. You own those companies, or you're invested in those companies heavily, that's where you're going to get super rich. It's the only way. The only way but people in school, you're not taught that. And there's nothing wrong with just having a comfortable life. Nothing at all.

Most people in this country still believe in the American dream. What's the American dream? Number one, owning a home. So that's the top level of the American Dream. You own your own home. Number two, you're debt-free. You don't owe anybody anything. And Number three, you can retire at 65 without a problem. That's the American dream. So the talker research outfit took a survey of 2,000 Americans. What group do you think is the highest confidence they can reach the American dream? Hispanic Americans, recent people who have come over here, 56% of Hispanics believe they're going to achieve the American dream in their lifetime, compared to 51% of non-Hispanics. The most optimistic is Gen Z, age 14 to 29. You'd never know that, okay? That's not reported. They say 67% of them, they can get it. So the youngins, they got their eye on it. Now, if the government's gonna tax them to death, which is happening in the major urban centers, they'll never get there. But if you go to Florida or Texas or Tennessee or one of those states where you can keep a large portion of what you earn. You work hard, and you're honest, isn't that interesting?

Smart life, coffee, it's ridiculous. Coffee is ridiculous, the whole thing is ridiculous. All right, so 85% of the people in America say they don't buy coffee outside anymore because it's $7 a cup. So they buy it at home, they drink it at all. Now I've been doing this for years. I don't drink a lot of coffee anyway. But I have my little coffee things that I put them in a Keurig thing or whatever it is. It's one of the few machines I can actually work. And then I go down, and I have a little cup of coffee for less than a buck. So, on my calculation, I'm saving six bucks, so I go out to the coffee place, and there's four of them in my town, I'm paying six, seven bucks for a cup of coffee. Why would you do that? So anyway, people are catching on. The average American coffee drinker drinks three cups a day. That's 20 bucks if you're buying it out. And it's maybe a buck, if you're staying in. Smart life. When you drink your little coffee, make it at home. Then you got the big thermos. You can carry it in the thermos, do whatever you want.

California, so as everybody knows, this guy Swalwell, congressman, he's done. Finished out, never to be heard from again. So that throws the governor's race. Now, the vote. Is on June 2nd, and it's the top two, could be the same party. That's their election process in California. So you have two Dems running against one another, two Republicans running against. Here are the top five right now, according to Emerson. Steve Hilton, he's a Fox guy, 17%. Chad Bianco, a sheriff, 14%, they're both Republicans. Tom Steyer, a gazillionaire, who ran for president 14%. Katie Porter, I believe she's a congressperson, 10. Javier Becerra, who worked for Biden, 10. So there it is. Now, my prediction. You're gonna have Hilton against Steyer. The Dems will find some way to get Steyer in there. He's given them so much money. And so Hilton, but Hilton could beat him. I don't think it'll happen. A machine is too powerful out there, but it's possible. Now, obviously, if Hilton runs against Bianco, and I don't know much about him. Then you got two republicans running, you've got a republican government in California. Might save the state.

This Day in History, U.S. Supreme Court unanimously upholds bussing to achieve racial desegregation. First hard news story I ever covered, South Boston, South-Boston High, boy, that was vicious. So, anyway, to get African-American children into decent schools, because in a lot of the black schools were terrible. The feds ordered that there was busing. You would take the kids and bring them into white neighborhoods and they would go to school and a lot in white neighborhoods, including South Boston, didn't want that. And they just, it was horrible. But it was upheld. A 9-0, unanimous verdict. But here's the kicker, it doesn't exist today. Busing is very, very rare today because the schools are now deemed pretty disparate because of the money going in. I'll never forget covering that story in Boston. Boy, that was bad. All right, quick break. We got a lively mail segment and all of that, and back in a moment.

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So I'd like to be on our YouTube channel, because we have tons of great stuff, and I do have a YouTube thing to show you in a moment. Youtube.com/BillOReilly. Is the address. We're gonna have a brand new We'll Do It Live this week. And then all kinds of good stuff. Mail, Don, on the message board. "Bill, I have to admit I was wrong, thinking the USA would have to use military to end the Iran conflict. Looks like President Trump's strategy is going to work." Not yet, not yet. Don't wanna be wrong twice. This is a tough one.

John, Concierge Member. John gets direct access to me. "Seems to me that the recent Popes have been quick to criticize Western governments, but remain quiet about atrocities committed by Russia, China, and Muslim nations." Not Russia, you know, Francis went in there and laid Putin out and said he would mediate it. And of course, Putin didn't want any part of it. So, you know, but they're reticent to get involved with politics until now.

Sue Meiser, Henderson, Nevada. "I believe the Pope is not accurately assessing the imminent threat posed by Iran. When he states the U.S. Is not fighting a just war, I suspect his judgment is clouded by Trump derangement syndrome." It'as possible. There's a lot of people who don't like the president.

Jane Murphy, Cambridge, Massachusetts. "The Iranians who wanted to Trump to bomb are now living in total fear because the president is not doing what he promised. He's abandoning them. Trump's threats are all bluff." No, I don't think so. I think there's gonna be stuff that happens inside Iran that maybe give those people a lifeline. I don't think he can bluff this one. This has got to come to some conclusion.

Kathy Borga, Del Mar, California. "Just wondering why our government does not try to drop weapons and ammunition to arm the protesters." Because they immediately would be confiscated by the Iranian army, and anybody trying to pick up the weapon would be shot in the head. So your answer, Kathy, was right there. Not an easy operation to do that. In fact, it's impossible.

Frank Harsh, Fallon, Nevada. "Mr. O'Reilly, you say you can mediate the conflict between the president and the pope. I don't think so, as they both have diversion goals." No, they both want peace. Trump wants peace. He doesn't want...You know, he wanted the peace prize. So, we disagree there.

Tom Collins, North Tunston, California. "Hey Bill, I'm a year younger than you, but pretty much followed your footsteps as documented in a bold, fresh piece of humanity. After high school, I went into the Air Force, and like you, I have to stay true to our faith, the Catholic faith. For the hostilities of Iran, President Trump cites his involvement in news and peace deals around the globe. Did the Pope make any public comments regarding the same?" I don't believe he did. He doesn't like to get involved with politics, as I said, over and over and over and over. Okay, we want you to get the 250 American hats. Show your pride in your country. Go to BillOReilly.com store. Best hats ever. Okay, 250 coming up. Big bash on the 4th of July. Everybody should have the hats. I mean, everybody. Word of the Day: do not be a Poltroon. One of my favorites. I called Chris Cuomo a poltroon. Confused him a little. I'm on there tonight, News Nation, at 8 o'clock. I'm with that here tonight. Cuomo's someplace else, but I got to go to DC later in the week, so we're doing it tonight. All right, so we got a little surprise from YouTube. And I'm going to show you that when we come back.

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Okay, Final Thought. So I get this in the mail, YouTube. And I go, uh-oh, is this another bill? What do I gotta do here? It's just, all right. So it's a plaque presented to Bill O'Reilly for passing a million subscribers on YouTube. And we got way more. We got another plaque. So we're heading toward two million now. So YouTube, thank you. It's a nice little plaque. Presented by Bill O'Reilly for passing a million subscribers on YouTube. So go to our YouTube channel. I mean, it's free. Why would you not go? Fun and free. Two great words, fun and free, I'm gonna hang this someplace. It's very nice, and I've got to credit my staff. They handle a lot of the YouTube work, but it's there, and we would like you to know about it, and now, we have a plaque. If the media says I'm not a big YouTube guy because I am or something. Thank you for watching and listening to the No Spin News. See you again tomorrow.

Highlights of We'll Do It LIVE!

2026-04-20T14:01:00Z

Bill O'Reilly & Dan Abrams on Trump vs. the Pope

2026-04-20T14:00:00Z

Press Access in the Trump Administration

2026-04-20T07:21:00Z

It’s easy to figure out why many members of the Trump administration continue to give access to Fox News. It’s well watched by conservatives and generous to the President’s men and women. Social media outlets will soon pass FNC’s reach, but it will remain a comfort zone for the right.

Nothing wrong with that when you consider the other television news outfits are committed to the left.

The Trump administration is the most press accessible in history. Unlike many Democrats who boycott opposing points of view, it speaks with the leftist media. I guess the Trumpsters hope to persuade. Long shot. And can you imagine President Biden speaking with his opposition? Never happened.

Getting specific, I don’t understand the Jake Tapper thing. The CNN host loathes the Trump administration and is deeply enmeshed in the gotcha game. Why bother with that? Not getting this at all.

I respect politicians and pundits who mix it up. That is a rapidly shrinking group. But I don’t believe in rewarding contrived, deceitful behavior. Both parties should engage the opposition. Just be smart about it.

God Only Knows

2026-04-19T07:00:00Z

Because the United States is now pretty much a secular nation, the Pope Leo-President Trump story is largely misunderstood and, in some cases, being exploited. People are taking sides even though they don’t understand what’s really going on. Not good.

This week, I received a letter from a guy in Pennsylvania which is very instructive because it reflects a rather common point of view.

“Bill, here we go again, sticking our nose in someone else’s affairs. Do we know for sure that Iran will definitely use a nuclear bomb? What we should have said is if they use nuclear weapons, Iran would be totally destroyed.”

First of all, if a country that has supported terrorism for almost 50 years becomes a nuclear threat, that is decidedly not “someone else’s affair.” It affects all of us on the planet.

Do we KNOW if Iran would definitely use a nuke? Of course not. If your neighbor is a serial killer, do you know if he’ll murder again? Are you okay with taking that chance as your family goes about its business in close proximity to an established threat?

How about reacting AFTER the nuclear damage is done? Smart move? Nuclear devices can be set up as smaller weapons giving an attacker “deniability” so certainly a nuke attack would be very difficult to dissect. The Mullahs would not be running around shouting “hey, we did it!”
Where’s the proof, people would wail, I can’t see it.

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It’s like that right now. Many people just don’t believe Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon. What is that belief based on? Distrust of America and Israel, that’s what.

U.S. intel is convinced Iran is close to enriching uranium to weapons grade. But some folks believe they know more than our protective services. They just do!

Then there’s the Pope. Who exactly is this man and what does he do all day? Few know. Cluelessness rules. But some don’t like him because he isn’t specifically condemning Iran and seems to be passively criticizing military operations against the Mullahs. His Holiness wants more negotiations.

The Pope is not MAGA and certainly not a political scientist. His job is to wage peace. Simple description but accurate. The Pontiff reserves the right to condemn destructive actions, but he rarely places direct blame. He doesn’t want a Christian-Muslim conflict or to take sides in global strife. He simply advocates for the compassionate treatment of all human beings, just as Jesus did.

The biggest problem between Leo and Donald Trump is that both men think they are on high moral ground. The President believes he is protecting people from violence. The Pope sees Mr. Trump as too aggressive in pursuit of security and the punishment of miscreants.

Of course, the foolish, corrupt media is exploiting that difference of opinion even though both men are doing their jobs and should be working together to protect others. That absolutely could happen if a more vivid version of evil emerges.

Iran is a danger to the world. Its terror resume proves it. The Pope should acknowledge the danger and work to mitigate it so more innocent people aren’t slaughtered.

President Trump should seek the Pope’s counsel while providing the Vatican with specifics about how to end the conflict. In essence, the Pope and the President could become partners.

Don’t want to be a blasphemer but I think God would approve. Evil should be confronted. If it isn’t, more destruction will surely follow. So, let’s unite on this gentlemen. It’s the right thing to do.

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2026-04-17T22:00:00Z

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U.S.-Iran Negotiations

2026-04-17T07:49:00Z

Let’s take an optimistic view of world events. It looks like the U.S. blockade of the Persian Gulf is working, and Iran will suffer big time if the country’s import economy collapses. 93 million people have to eat every day, and the Mullahs can no longer get food into their ports of entry.

Apparently, Allah wills this.

So, expect “negotiations” to begin again with the USA holding the Trump card, pardon the bad pun.

If President Trump prevails, the political equation both here and abroad changes quickly. No nukes is the goal; it could happen.

An American victory like that would be historical. Of course, the Trump haters will denigrate any Trump success, but it will not matter. The world understands power, and the President will get even more if Iran stands down. There is absolutely no way Mr. Trump will surrender to the Iranian economic extortion. The Mullahs have to know their terror state is in grave danger.

So that’s where we are this weekend. We should all be hoping evil gets hammered. It’s very possible.

California, Republicans Need Not Apply

2026-04-17T07:29:00Z

The Afternoon Dispatch is written by BillOReilly.com staff.

150 years ago, the British historian Lord Acton wrote one of the world’s most-quoted observations about politics. ‘Power tends to corrupt,’ he declared, ‘and absolute power corrupts absolutely.’ Lord Acton probably never heard of California, which was then a newly formed state, but his adage comes to mind today.

California has essentially become a far wealthier and more beautiful version of North Korea, a place where one party rules with an iron fist. The numbers speak volumes:t the State Assembly and the State Senate are both 75% Democratic supermajorities. California has 52 representatives in Washington, out of which seven are Republicans, and both Senators are left-wing Democrats. But more than quantity is the quality of the elected officials.

The odious Eric Swalwell was merely a bit player, a footnote in a volume of corruption and deceit. Senator Adam Schiff made his name by lying about Donald Trump’s ‘collusion’ with Russia and seemed to have spare bedrooms at MSNBC and CNN. His Senate colleague Alex Padilla managed to grab some attention by storming the stage where Kristi Noem was speaking and getting cuffed in the process.

In the House, it would be an insult to Star Wars to compare California’s delegation to that movie's bar scene. 40-year veteran Nancy Pelosi, aka the Wizard of Wall Street, recently won her San Francisco district with 73% of the vote. 87-year-old Maxine Waters lives in a mansion that’s not even in her district, while Congresswoman Lateefa Simon was among the leaders in the absurd ‘defund the police’ movement. California’s cities are run by incompetent loons like Castro-loving Karen Bass in Los Angeles and Barbara Lee in Oakland.

One-party rule has staggering costs in both money and human lives because there is absolutely no electoral competition, no incentive to expose fraud. The folly of a bullet train connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco has gone way off the rails, with the cost estimate ballooning from $33 billion to $126 billion. Imagine how many people have gotten very wealthy from the train to nowhere. Soon after the wildfires in SoCal, LA Mayor Karen Bass promised that the recovery would be ‘the fastest in California history.’

According to Politico, 34 homes have been built in the devastated area so far. The latest California scandal is massive fraud in hospice care; an anti-fraud task force estimates the cost at $600 million. No one will be surprised if it turns out that many of those millions went to Democratic politicians who greased the skids and looked the other way.

So what’s next for the once-Golden State? Eric Swalwell has taken his sullied hat out of the ring, leaving two prominent Democrats in the upcoming primary. One is the execrable Katie Porter, famous for berating staff and dumping scalding mashed potatoes on a former husband. The other is billionaire Tom Steyer, who wants ICE agents arrested and makes Gavin Newsom look like Ronald Reagan. On the Republican side, conservative former Fox News host Steve Hilton believes he has a fighting chance and actually leads in some polls. But his support is in the 18% range, and it’s a steep uphill battle in a state where Democrats dominate.

Ironically, Hilton was born in England, also home to the aforementioned Lord Acton. One Brit lamented the terrible damage inflicted by absolute power; another Brit may be California’s best chance to end the absolute corruption that has engulfed America’s most beautiful state.

The views expressed in the Afternoon Dispatch are those of BillOReilly.com staff.

O'Reilly & Sid Rosenberg on The Big Apple's Red Mayor

2026-04-16T16:56:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Sid Rosenberg and assesses New York City’s first 100 days under far-left Mayor Zohran Mamdani. Bill also explains why he chooses to remain in the over-taxed and poorly-governed Empire State.

Bill O'Reilly & Dan Abrams on Trump, the Pope, and Iran

2026-04-16T16:08:00Z

Bill O’Reilly joins Dan Abrams to talk about Donald Trump's comments about the Pope, tensions with Iran, and how the media frames today’s political issues.

Highlights from BillOReilly.com's We'll Do It LIVE!

2026-04-16T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, boy.

SCHIRRIPA Yes, sir.

O'REILLY Okay, so this is what I don't understand. So your mother is Jewish, and your father is Italian. Yeah. That must have been quite a house.

SCHIRRIPA Well, you know, the thing is my mother was raised kind of like by Italians. So she was, she fit right in. You know what I mean? She was cursed in Italian, cooked Italian. So she was...Like kind of more Italian than she was Jewish, you know, but I had a whole Jewish side of the family. Comedy club. That's where I started. It was an improv, right? Then they, I took over, there was a topless show, and then there was a female impersonator show. I was running it, making a lot of money, a lot of tips. Those are the days you could still, you know, I wore a tuxedo. You still had to pay, you had to get a good seat. And that's where I started acting. Of course, I was working with a lot of comics, Bill Maher, Richard Belzer.

O'REILLY Were you the MC?

SCHIRRIPA No, no, I just was seating people in the back of the room. They would say, hey, you know what? I'm doing this little short film. You know, why don't you come and do this? Kevin Pollack. He said, come on, do an HBO special. I played a bouncer in his thing, and it was just fun to me, it was fun. I had no, I never read a script, never did anything, I flew myself to LA. I had a ball, literally a cliché. I got literally high from doing it.

O'REILLY So it was meant to be, you didn't seek it, it wasn't on your mind, you're a basketball player from Brooklyn, you ride that train, then you go to Vegas, you ride that train. Then you start to get little roles in LA, and you wind up in two of the biggest monster hits in modern television. So let's zero in on the Sopranos. Which you are still making money from.

SCHIRRIPA Oh yeah.

O'REILLY You're going out all over the world, you were just in England and they couldn't get enough of you over there.

SCHIRRIPA It was crazy. We did 14 shows in 10 cities, started in Belfast, Nottingham, Birmingham, London, Edinburgh, I mean we went through the whole thing. Me and Michael Imperiali, we have a comic with us on stage, sold 27,000 tickets.

O'REILLY Unbelievable.

SCHIRRIPA Telling stories, funny behind-the-scenes stories, all positive.

O'REILLY We'll get to that in a minute, but Gandolfini and Tom Selleck were the two titans that these shows revolved around, both very interesting personalities. I know Sellec a little bit. I never met Gandolfini. Now, when you went on the set to play a low-level gangster, a New Jersey gangster, there's Gandolfini. Who already had established himself as one of the great actors in the country, okay? How did he behave on the show?

SCHIRRIPA ...Always, always trying to help you. My first scene is with him, Stevie Van Zandt, Vinnie Pastore, big pussy, Paulie Walnuts, Tony Cerrico. That's my first scene. I didn't know anyone. A lot of these guys knew each other. I came in the second season, the beginning of the second season. I knew no one. Said hello, did the scene. Jim is trying to help me. I'm supposed to be intimidated, scared. He's helping me. I was green. I had work, don't get me wrong. I had done a bunch of stuff, but this is a different level. Boom, I did a few movies, and he's trying to help me. He's yelling at me, screaming at me. He's trying to get me where I need to be. Once I do that, the scene's over. I'm one of the guys. He's just trying to help. At one point, he said, come on, me, him, Dominic Chianese, Uncle Junior. Come to my trailer, let's go over the lines, let's run lines. It's almost an out-of-body experience. I'm going myself, How the hell did I get here? I'm watching these guys on TV a week ago. Now I'm here with the three of them.

O'REILLY And they're all very eccentric characters.

SCHIRRIPA Absolutely, but good guys. Jim was always a pro. People say, did you guys have fun on the set? Yeah, we had fun. It was all business. He was working 16 hours a day, five days a week.

O'REILLY Mm-hmm.

SCHIRRIPA Listen, a great guy not without problems. I mean, that's common knowledge.

O'REILLY Right.

But not on the set never when he was working, you saw none...There was none of that.

O'REILLY Was he the leader of the gang?

SCHIRRIPA Absolutely.

O'REILLY Okay.

SCHIRRIPA In a positive way, so you can't come in, and you know, it was a good vibe. It really was like a family. We were close, very respectful. Nobody could come in and be disrespectful to one another. That wasn't flying either.

O'REILLY All right, so Gandolfini was kind of like the chief of police.

SCHIRRIPA I mean, you know, but kind of by example, you know, I mean, he was the guy, you know?

O'REILLY But it was such an intense program. Do you guys have any laughs off camera?

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, no, no. Absolutely. We went out constantly. I mean, we enjoyed every moment. I mean, those guys, Michael, Jim were in their late 30s. I was in my early 40s. We went, we were like playing for the Yankees.

O'REILLY Where do you go in Jersey?

SCHIRRIPA No, here.

O'REILLY Oh, in New York.

SCHIRRIPA We all lived in Tribeca, back end of Battery Park.

O'REILLY Ah, so you're running around.

SCHIRRIPA All over.

O'REILLY At the end of the show, the run of the show, did it wear you guys down? Were you going, oh my God, you know, how long can we keep this up? It's so intense.

SCHIRRIPA I don't think so. I think every single person would have gone on you to do that show. Jim was getting burnt out, and David and when David Chase came to us and said this is gonna be the last season, nobody said...everybody said okay. Everyone said okay, that's fine. I mean, whatever you want, you took us here. You're the boss. I mean, Jim did most of the heavy lifting.

O'REILLY Sure. He was a plotline guy, and Gandolfini died a short time later.

SCHIRRIPA Well, no, the show ended in 2007, Jim died in 2013.

O'REILLY Okay, that's not a long period of time for men that age. And he died in kind of mysterious circumstances, I think, you know?

SCHIRRIPA No, took his son to Italy, and he died of a heart attack. I mean, there was no, there was no surprise.

O'REILLY Were you surprised?

SCHIRRIPA Was I surprised? Well, I tell you what, I got a call from our attorney. We all had the same business manager attorney. And I was at Yankee Stadium with Mitch Modell and Tommy Losada, you know, before the game, and I got to call and he, he said, you by yourself? And I said, I'm at the game. And he said, Jim passed away, and I was stunned. My legs came out from under me. I said, are you sure it's not one of these hoaxes?

O'REILLY Yeah, I was surprised.

SCHIRRIPA And he said, no. And then I said I had to leave. I mean, I was shaken seriously. And I was going down the West Side Highway, my phone was blowing up, CBS, NBC, blah, blah, blah, blah. I wasn't talking to anyone.

O'REILLY So then you segue into Blue Bloods, which is a whole different thing because it's a network show. Guy named Kevin Wade was the runner, picks you up, contrasts you to Bridget Moynihan, Beauty and the Beast, or whatever you want to call it. But it was a brilliant move. And so now you're in a tighter structure with CBS. It's not like The Sopranos. There's a big difference in production, right?

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, well, because the surprise was shot like a movie. Don't forget, it was an hour with no commercials. A network TV show.

O'REILLY 44 minutes.

SCHIRRIPA 42 maybe, you know? So it's a whole different thing. But the writing was great. What I enjoyed a lot about Blue Bloods, everyone got along wonderfully.

O'REILLY Great cast.

SCHIRRIPA Really nice people.

O'REILLY But the guy that everything centered around, like Gandolfini, was Tom Selleck.

SCHIRRIPA Well, listen, iconic TV character. I mean, he's a star, Tom, right? A star, a star is magnum. Did a lot of good movies, too.

O'REILLY Well, this is my question. So Gandolfini, when he starts The Sopranos, wasn't mega. Tom Selleck, his private jet guy. Here I am.

SCHIRRIPA On The Sopranos, you had no input. What was on that page, you'd better say. End of story.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA David Chase wrote it, you'd better be word-perfect. Word perfect. Now, I could ask a question and say, wait a minute, well, when Bobby does this, sure. But if I say, well, you know what? I don't want to say this line, and I don't want to see that line. You'd better say the line, and you're not around for the next thing.

O'REILLY You get whacked.

SCHIRRIPA 1,000%.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA For real. For real. Okay? So there was none of that. You did not have that input.

O'REILLY It's like a play, right.

SCHIRRIPA Tom had a lot of input.

O'REILLY You bet he did.

SCHIRRIPA Tom had a lot of input. Tom knows what he's doing. Guy's an actor for 50 years.

O'REILLY But, he's a traditional guy. He brought that in, and that's what catapulted this show.

SCHIRRIPA And he's a common-sense guy.

O'REILLY Right. He's not some kind of flaky.

SCHIRRIPA No, and he knows, and he'll come in, and he'll say, well, the light there, and why are we shooting that? And he'll question, and he knows what he's talking about.

O'REILLY But if he wants it, he gets it.

SCHIRRIPA Well, of course.

O'REILLY Right, he's the guy.

SCHIRRIPA He's the star of the show. Now, that was a big difference. Jim read the script, and he did it like the rest of us. He read the script...

O’REILLY But Selleck had power.

SCHIRRIPA Tom would give his opinion to the writers and...

O'REILLY And the writers would do what he pretty much wanted to do. You know, and it worked.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, of course it worked, there was a, listen, when the show ended, it was what? Six million people plus three or whatever?

O'REILLY Number one prime time CBS show.

SCHIRRIPA For years.

O'REILLY What's it like growing up with a Jewish father, a mother's half Filipino? You're a United Nations down there in the suburb of San Francisco.

SCHNEIDER Well, it was really great because we lived in a place that money didn't really matter. Everybody was, it definitely the suburbs. This is, we were the end of the baby boom, and it was a really great time in America. So you know, we're, and we were actually, you know, we had Filipinos, there were Jews, and the Filipinos are, they assimilate, and that's why the Filipinas are so successful. Most people don't know this, but the highest earners in America, Filipino Americans. They average 93,000 per cap. And so that's, and you don't hear about it because they don't want you to know. Rob, don't tell anybody, please. Let the black and white people kill each other. We're going to be okay in the suburbs. So, but they really do well because they assimilate. And when you get somebody from over the Philippines, they'll marry into the culture. They'll meet people. They'll become part of the culture, and they'll definitely know and learn the language. So that was what I really grew up with. And I also grew up as somebody who appreciated America like you wouldn't believe. I remember my mom, anyone who said anything against America, she had two words for them. Get out! You don't like America. It's the greatest country in the history of the world. We have freedom and opportunity. You have no idea what it's like. Get out!

O'REILLY I was looking for a little levity, but not stupid stuff, a little, an intelligent guy to come on once a week and put the news into some kind of perspective with an entertainment value. So, at the time, Dennis Miller was working at CNBC, and he had an hour show with a monkey. With a monkey. No one knew why the monkey was there. But Miller would talk to the monkey, and the monkey would just run around, okay? Well, the show did not work, okay, and they...

SCHNEIDER Imagine that. That would kill now.

O'REILLY They killed the show. So I run into Miller in Manhattan, where we are now, and I didn't know him, and I said, you know, I like the monkey. Lit up, because everybody hated the monkey except me, I liked the monkey. And then I said, you know, would you mind if I maybe got your agent, and no, no, you know, Miller, just blew it off. So I went to the head of Fox News, a guy named Roger Ailes, and I said look, I wanna put Miller on a weekly basis, it's going to be a workshop to give him a contract, but we'll give him three or four weeks to see. He goes, is that the guy with the monkey? Said yeah, we don't have to hire the monkey. Okay, we're not gonna hire the monkeys. We'll have a few bananas All right, so Miller will feel it home. So the rest is history.

SCHNEIDER That's fantastic.

O'REILLY I brought him on, and he and then we toured.

SCHNEIDER That's right. Those tours were great. You guys were ahead of your time.

O'REILLY It was amazing.

SCHNEIDER You got to have...you got to have, it was pre-podcast era, when you guys got to actually, people would come out, and then you would actually get to... They would get to hear people that they listened to, and it was a wonderful reaction that preceded this whole era.

O'REILLY Why do you think that the Trump administration is so vilified by the Kimmel's, the Colbert's, the network news? Why do they hate him so much?

SCHNEIDER I think it's liberal women that have lost their minds are controlling these men. And these guys have no more balls.

O'REILLY Oh, I thought you said they chained...

SCHNEIDER Kimmel has no balls. Kimmel is ball-less. He's been de-balled by his wife.

O'REILLY Really?

SCHNEIDER His wife is the head writer of the show. She used to be an assistant writer, now she's the writer. And I think that's completely ruined him. I do. I mean, I'm sorry, Jimmy, maybe I'm wrong, but I think I'm right.

O'REILLY Thirty years at 60 Minutes, 30 years, the man survived at CBS. I survived about eight months at CBS, he's 30 years. Anyway, let's begin with older folks, Americans. And they watch CBS now. And it's not anywhere near what it was. What did Deuce happened?

KROFT Algorithms. That's my short answer. I mean, technology, the fact that everything has gotten more complicated, much more complicated. The fact that, you know, it started with cable TV, and it started eroding the audience of the three major networks. And it just got down to a point where I think the people that own the networks decided to write it off, that it was not that important to them anymore, even though it still produces a huge amount of money, but that the future was someplace else. But, you know, the budgets dwindled, and people had to do with what they got.

O'REILLY But it's also about performance. So, Mike Wallace, before he died, I became fairly good friends with him. He liked The Factor, he liked my, whatever you want to describe me as. He was the one who really liked me and kind of identified with it. But you had Hewitt, and you had Safer, and you had Wallace, and you had all of these pros, yourself. Really knew what they were doing. And now, I'm sorry, Tony Dokoupil, is that his name? He looks like a nice guy, but he wasn't at Chernobyl like you. And so it's not, it's like a sports team that once had all these superstars and now they're in eighth place.

KROFT Yeah, the one thing that all the people that you mentioned, Ed Bradley and Leslie, we all had either, we had successful careers at CBS News before we got to 60 Minutes. And we had all been either overseas or in Washington, covering the White House or one of those places. And there was a level of experience that doesn't really still exist. I mean, those positions are occupied, but everything has changed. And I can remember when I told Jeff Fager that I was going to leave or that I was going to retire. And he says, well, you know, what are we going to do? And I said, you know, go out and find somebody who knows how to write and is a good reporter. And he said, they aren't out there.

O'REILLY It's true. There's no minor leagues.

KROFT I can remember when I was tapped to go to 60 Minutes, I thought this was fantastic. And I expected a lot of people would just come up and say, that's really great. I'm really happy for you, whatever. And then you realize, after a while, that not everybody was happy that I got this job. There were other people...

O'REILLY There were more competition.

CROFT There were other people that wanted it. And so then you've all of a sudden made a bunch of enemies. And that's, it's just, you know, it is a snake pit.

O'REILLY It is.

KROFT It's a snake pit.

O'REILLY Is it any way to live? If you had to do it again, would you do it again?

KROFT I think that I, no, I probably wouldn't do it again.

O'REILLY Really?

KROFT Yeah. I hated it.

O'REILLY If you were covering President Trump, you would be skeptical of him.

KROFT Well, I'm trying to be skeptical of everybody.

O'REILLY Would you be fair to him?

KROFT You know, fairness is a strange word. I think my big problem with Trump, it feels to me, and this is 60 Minutes and CBS, I kind of feel like we're in federal receivership and that-.

O'REILLY Well, he's a populist. He's a strong man.

KROFT Yeah, exactly. And the trustees of this receivership are Trump, Ellison, and Bari Weiss, and they have said quite openly that they think that they need to adjust.

O'REILLY Yeah, they need to be fairer to him, more fair. And I agree with that because as we talked about with Pelley and I know what I'm doing, so do you, I can see when Leslie Stahl is interviewing Trump and she says to him, well, there's no evidence of Russian collusion, you know, blah, blah, blah, and I'm going, whoa, that's not how you pose that question. It's not. You interviewed Obama 17 times. 17 times!

KROFT Yeah. Something like that.

O'REILLY Why did he like you?

KROFT I think he liked me for, I'm not so sure it was personal. I think that he liked the fact that 60 Minutes could deliver almost 20 million people every time he came.

O'REILLY But he chose you. He could have had Mike.

KROFT I think because I did the first story on him. I mean, I was the one that covered him during the presidential campaign.

O'REILLY I think he trusted you, Obama.

KROFT Oh, I think he did trust me, and I think he knew that I was not gonna, I was not gonna like...

O'REILLY Cheap shot him.

KROFT Cheap shot him.

O'REILLY And you didn't cheap-shot him.

KROFT And I didn't.

O'REILLY Now, in order not to cheap-shot him, you had to be a little light on him sometimes. I remember those interviews, and sometimes I could see, I said, oh, Kroft wants to ask this, but he doesn't want to derail the whole thing. Am I wrong?

KROFT I think you're probably wrong in the sense that we did some, there was never an interview that we did with him, that we didn't ask him about all of the...criticisms.

O'REILLY But you let him answer rather than challenge.

KROFT Because he, you know, Obama was an interesting person. I'd never really seen a politician like him. In all the years that I interviewed him, he never once said, stop, I need to talk to my aides to find out the answer.

O'REILLY I interviewed him three times.

KROFT He was in command.

O'REILLY With me, I challenged him.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay.

KROFT Well, I challenged him, too. You apparently haven't seen the last couple of interviews I did with him.

O'REILLY And they got tougher as you went along, okay, because he got in more trouble as you went along, to be fair.

KROFT You know, I mean, the situation was really, really a mess.

O'REILLY He had a long honeymoon, and then he was, you can keep your doctor here if you want, your doctor, and all of a sudden, all hell broke loose.

KROFT But for the first four years of that presidency, the issue was the financial situation.

O'REILLY Yeah.

KROFT You know, we had just pretty much...

O'REILLY Over the cliff with Bush.

KROFT Over the cliff with Bush, and the worst of it, some of the worst, of it was when he was running, when he was president-elect. And I think that some of those things, you know, all of the bailout of the banks and everything.

O'REILLY Unlike Trump, Obama was a realist, and he was a consensus seeker. Would I be correct there?

KROFT Yeah. I don't think nearly as liberal as people point him out to be.

O'REILLY No, I agree with that.

KROFT People always used to talk to me about 60 Minutes and say, oh, it's so liberal. You know, I never really thought of it as being liberal, in part because Don and Mike Wallace were both Republicans.

O'REILLY Right. They didn't play that game.

KROFT They didn't play that game.

O'REILLY But Rather did.

KROFT But I think, I think Dan did, Dan is also... You know, he's from Texas. He pulled himself up by his bootstraps. And I think it was more... I mean, he gave Nixon really a hard time. I thought it was the end of his career, that question at the luncheon was...

O'REILLY He did not like Nixon, and vice versa.

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O'REILLY So the word imminent is the problem here.

GRAHAM A hundred percent.

O'REILLY It's the problem. Because Americans, they want to support anti-terror measures. I think most clear thinking people understand Iran is a terror nation. If it's not around, it's better for the world. I think they understand that. They don't understand is, did we have to do this now?

GRAHAM So, there's two things I've learned. I'm 70. Vietnam has cast a great shadow over American foreign policy for a long time. Nobody wants to get in a Vietnam. Iraq and Afghanistan have cast a long shadow over Mideast policy, and I can understand that. So, everything we do, are we going down that road again?

O'REILLY Right.

GRAHAM And the answer is no. But we're not going to sit on the sidelines and watch Iran get a nuclear weapon, imminent. Let me tell you what the facts are, and you tell me if it was imminent. So Jared Kushner and Witkoff are charged by the president to go to the Iranians and sit down and see if you can do a deal over their nuclear program. Now, they've said for generations here, all we want is peaceful nuclear power, countries enrich that have nuclear power. Why should we be different? Why should we be second-class citizens? Why shouldn't we be allowed to enrich, like you do, for peaceful nuclear power? Well, the argument I would give back is that for about 20 years, you've been cheating. You have not tried to develop a peaceful nuclear program. Your enrichment program is well beyond what you need for peaceful purposes.

O'REILLY How do we know they've been cheating?

GRAHAM Because they said so. That comes in a minute. It's been pretty clear that IAEA, everybody has caught them having enrichment capability beyond what you need for commercial purposes. The most you need for commercial purposes is 20% uranium. There is no commercial need for 60%. What does it take to make a weapon? 90. So, 20 is the outside of commercial. 60 is threshold weapons, 90 is weapons. Trump says, go talk to the Iranians, and here's what he offered them. You can have a small enrichment program to save face. We don't want to humiliate you, but it can be designed to go beyond small, right? And we will guarantee you spent fuel supply forever.

O’REILLY And they turned it all down.

GRAHAM Why? Well, because they don't want a nuclear power program. They want the capability to make a weapon because they're religious Nazis. And if you don't believe that you're wrong. And those in the 30s who thought Hitler just was trying to get more German territory, trying to right Versailles, right wrongs, you're wrong. I don't know why people want to kill all the Jews, but Hitler did. I don't why he believed the Aryan race had to be the master race, but he did. I don't know why these nut jobs in Iran want to purify Islam, but they do. I know why they want to kill all the Jews, but they say they do, and I think they would kill us, so that's where I'm at.

O'REILLY Now, here's a provocative question. You've been in Congress for more than 30 years as a rep and a senator. I've been in journalism 50 years plus. I have seen, and I could be wrong because I don't sit there, like you do, a deterioration, generally speaking, of intellect. I'm seeing really dumb people, really dumb people. People who don't know history. They don't really understand that if you don't punish criminals, then the criminals will commit more crimes. These are just basic things that in our country were givens for hundreds of years. And these people like Ocasio-Cortez, who went to Boston U, so did I, and her district is a butt spine. She doesn't know anything. And this woman's gonna be the next, she'll beat Schumer. She'll beat him. Okay, Shumer's done. And when you listen to her, and she doesn't do interviews like this, she would never sit with me in a million years.

GRAHAM Does she write books?

O'REILLY She doesn't know anything.

GRAHAM Well...

O'REILLY Have you seen that across the board?

GRAHAM Here's what I've seen. When I first started this business, you got rewarded for problem-solving. You know, sort of knowing what you're talking about. All the energy now is too loud. Not knowledgeable, just loud.

O'REILLY Right. Partisan.

GRAHAM Fetterman. He's doing what people used to do without even being noticed. So I tried to help Biden deal with Saudi, you know, Israel. I was in the gang of eight for immigration. I've done some things that our base doesn't like because somebody's got to solve these problems. Fetterman is trying to solve problems. Question: Will he make it or not? If you're running in a primary right now, your goal is to get as many eyeballs as you can. And how do you get eyeballs in this world? Be provocative. Provocative has replaced intellect. Provocative has replaced problem-solving. And what I want to do is to say, no, you don't have to be provocative to win. You actually can go to the Mideast enough. My knock is, why are you over there? We need you here. Why aren't you supporting them over there when we're paying more gas prices here? And I say, the reason I go over there is I don't want another 9-11. The last time we took our eye off the ball over there, they killed 3,000 Americans. Then I end every conversation with this thought. Do you think if the Ayatollah had a nuclear weapon, he'd use it? Most people say yes. Well, let's make sure he doesn't do it. And how do you do that sitting over here? I make an argument for smart intervention.

O'REILLY Well, you're a guy who, you're a conservative Republican, but you're at least open to hearing the other point of view, and you have a frame of reference.

GRAHAM Well, I have a frame of reference, which is history, and it goes back to what you just said. Why did people, it's almost as if World War II never happened.

O'REILLY Sure, they don't know.

GRAHAM If you stop people out on the streets, and you ask them, name the Axis powers? They have no idea what you're talking about. In a country who lets that happen, you'll wake up one day and wonder, what happened? Schooling. All I can say is the deterioration of curiosity, willingness to ask questions, and try to solve them. The ability to solve a problem is getting harder because the reward is less.

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O'REILLY Mandel makes me laugh. I'm not exactly a historical guy, right? But there's something about him that makes me laugh. I paid good money to see Howie Mandel at the Westbury Music Fair in my hometown, okay? And I dragged along a date, and I said to her, Look, she goes, what is this, a talent show or something? I said, no, no. This guy is just, he just gets it, and it's true. And then Howie was nice enough to allow me in the dressing room for 38 seconds. He had a stopwatch, and we just commiserated there. And then when I went on Mandel's podcast, I was surprised a bit because a very successful podcast, Howie Mandel Does Stuff. And people don't know this, but you spent tens of thousands of dollars getting that title, right? Howie Mandel does stuff, then you...

MANDEL I had Does Stuff. I didn't have Howie Mandel secured.

O'REILLY Okay, so his daughter is on the podcast, Jacqueline, she is a liberal woman, and I saw on a few occasions when she was questioning me, and they were all very smart questions. That she's a little disdain there...

MANDEL She gets, I don't know what the language barrier is on this broadcast, but she is accused of having a resting bitch face, which is just, you know, it's genetic. Her mother has the exact same face. So I don't know that it's disdain as much as it's just that expression that she used.

O'REILLY But she, I think, looks upon me as millions of people around the world do, as kind of a Neanderthal. Would you see that?

MANDEL No, but I do think that she thinks that you're of a different thought than her, a different mind than her. And she loves to discuss it. And I know for a fact that she enjoyed your appearance. Does she agree with you? No. Does she want to talk to you? Yes. We are of, and I shouldn't speak for her, but because she's an adult and she is a chalene liberal. But to that end, she is open to hearing from everybody, our whole family is, and the one thing that I have taught my children, as was taught to me, is respect and just respect for everything and anybody. You cannot, you have to earn disrespect. I think, we come into whatever the issue is with respect.

O'REILLY Do you see that philosophy as prevalent in the show business industry?

MANDEL Well, you know, it's very funny because people will talk about prevalence in show business. Show business is just, it is a microcosm of humanity. People who are in showbusiness happen to be, and you are in show business, happen to be recorded and projected out there. And if you're Joe or Dave or Lisa that works at the bank, you aren't. I find it really funny that people in, that not the the people in show business, but the people outside of show business, have this gravitas respect for somebody who pretended to be something, you know, it's just pretending. It's not that big a deal to pretend.

O'REILLY But there are people, and you know them, who say, look, if I say good things about Donald Trump, I'm not going to work. I'm going to lose jobs. And people will scorn me. I won't get invitations to the Hollywood Hills cocktail parties, so I'm not going to say anything.

MANDEL I don't know that that's true as much as what's true is if you get into the... It's not somebody saying something positive about the other side. I think it's when the rhetoric has gotten beyond compliments or even something positive or negative. The rhetoric becomes... It's rhetoric. It's not positive or negative. It's, you know, you're an idiot, you're a racist, it becomes name-calling. Or if you are kind of framing somebody who thinks different than you in this negative frame, then they don't wanna spend time with you. So I don't know that you're gonna lose jobs because you're, I think there's Republicans and right-wing people doing very well in this business.

O'REILLY All right, but there is a perception out there. Now, I was in a restaurant off Melrose a few years ago, and Chelsea Handler walked in. You know her, right, Chelsea?

MANDEL Yeah.

MANDEL Okay. Lively lass, would you agree?

MANDEL Lively lass.

O'REILLY Yeah.

MANDEL That's a word that hasn't been uttered or two words that haven't been uttered since the late 50s, Bill.

O'REILLY I'm a Renaissance guy.

MANDEL Lively lass.

O'REILLY So anyway, I'm sitting there...

MANDEL You're not on a dating app, are you? Because do you look for lively lasses?

O'REILLY No, I'm just trying to set the scene. So I'm sitting there eating my tofu on Melrose Avenue, and she walks over to the table, there were a few other people with me, and she goes, 'You're not allowed to be here in L.A.' So I said, All right, check please! We'll leave immediately. But there was an edge there that, oh boy, and that's what I was talking about.

MANDEL So you don't think she was just trying to be funny?

O'REILLY I don't know her well enough, maybe?

MANDEL I'll tell you, she's a comedian, and she's smart, and she's outrageous, and she's outspoken, and that seems on brand for her. Is she really perturbed that you are sitting eating tofu on Melrose? I doubt it. I doubt if it affected her for one brief moment.

O'REILLY I think she just wanted to give me a hard time.

MANDEL I have a hard time with my mental health. I have a really good life, but I have a hard time, but you know that. Comedy for me, and I believe, you know, having a sense of humor is not the ability to tell a joke or to laugh at a joke. A sense of humor is to find that sensibility in the darkest place. All comedy comes from darkness. All of it. If you laugh at a clown falling down at the circus, what are you laughing at? You're laughing at a stranger's misfortune. If you're telling a joke and two guys walk into a bar, it's not a joke unless something embarrassing, awkward, or horrible happens to one of them. That's the joke. That's what a joke is. And if you look at the two masks of theater, comedy and drama, they're very close. There's such a thin line between drama and comedy. In fact, comedy is just looking at something incredibly dramatic from another way.

O'REILLY When it doesn't go well, that's the toughest time for a comic, but you have a persona where you kind of just roll along, and you know.

MANDEL Not really. That's the persona. You see, the tough time, I've always used the analogy for me for stand-up. I love thrill rides. I love roller coasters. And if you look at what a roller coaster is, the higher you go, the faster you go, the closer to being dangerous or being killed, the better it is. I mean, if you like roller coasters and you just went on a little straight track that never went up or down a hill, you'd be bored. But your adrenaline is going when you're being dropped 19 stories. By the same token, in those moments when it doesn't work and your adrenaline is running, and there's thousands of people who you've never met looking at you, going, well, what's happening? That adrenaline, that excitement, that ability to try and reel them back and get a laugh or get them to appreciate the moment is the joy, the thrill, and the excitement that makes me feel alive.

O'REILLY David Letterman, so in '79, you did very well on Letterman.

MANDEL I opened for him a couple of times, and you know, when I came to the Comedy Store, he was the he was MC in '78 and '77 at the Comedy Store. He had just moved out here from being a weatherman someplace in Indiana or Indianapolis. I don't know where he was a weatherman. So, I was there like when he started, and to watch all these guys, we were all these young, you know, dreamers just who were, you know, kind of mischievous little kids, who found this clubhouse where all these like-minded people, semi-like-minded, people got together and had fun. It was like the Wild West of, I mean, it was the comedy boom of the 80s. Actually, I did well on Letterman, but for years and years and years, in the world of comedy, the toughest crowd are fellow comedians and the meanest crowd to other comedians are comedians. And because when I started out, I used to use a lot of, I was just this hyper guy that had a ton of props. And this is before people would make fun of Carrot Top, who I think is actually brilliant and has the ability to hold an audience and his own room in Vegas all these years. And he designed, not only does he write whatever he's verbalizing, but he has to design and engineer these great little props. But I had props, this is, before he even started, and I was a joke amongst the comedians, you know, people loved brilliant wordsmiths, like your friend Dennis Miller and other people, a monologist. And part of Letterman's top 10 list, sometimes I was mentioned as the joke. They go, and we'll make them go to a Howie Mandel. You know? That hurt me because you want your fellow...

O'REILLY Yeah, you want that prestige from the guys.

MANDEL I went and did, Kelly and Mark, in New York. Go look at Page Six.

O'REILLY Yeah, I saw it.

MANDEL I did a joke.

O’REILLY I know. They don't care.

MANDEL They said I snapped, but I think that's kind of funny. That doesn't really bother me, and more people probably read these articles than saw the show. So, they think that I'm really sensitive about my age. I didn't snap, and I wasn't sensible about my age. I do snap, I did not snap there, and I didn't snap on TV, and I don't snap on the stage, but being on TV or being in front of a camera or being on stage is such a small part of my life, even though I do a ton and I post a lot of things. 99% of my life is not being recorded, like you.

O'REILLY Yeah, but I'm boring, and you're not. That's the difference. And we really, really appreciate you taking the time, Howie. It was very kind of you to do it. If we can ever return to favor, you just let us know.

MANDEL Right back at you, buddy. If you ever need anything, I'm here.

O'REILLY Thank you.

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Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, tonight from South Florida. It's Wednesday, April 15th, 2026. Stand up for your country. Got a lot to tell you about, but it's Iran-centric. I've been looking around for another story or two that rises to the level of this one, and they don't exist. The closest is the economy. Which is obviously being influenced by Iran and what happens over there, because people are paying more for essentials of life. And it's impossible to predict whether that anger and people are not happy about paying more will translate into a victory for the Democrats, who are blaming President Trump for the Iran thing on and on. You all know what the situation is. And that will be a very interesting analysis of the vote that's coming up in November. The American people understand those who pay attention, 50%, why we're doing what we're doing in Iran, but they don't like it. If there's victory, that could change. Talking Points is on all of this tonight.

Let's begin with the direct effect on We the People. You know about the gas and food. You know, about insurance. You know all about the burdens of life. What you don't know is that the attack on Iran may cost We the people, the American taxpayer, one trillion dollars. A lot of jack. And that would elevate our debt to $40 trillion and blow out inflation and all consequences that have to do with the economy. $1 trillion. This analysis comes from Harvard, the Kennedy School. I don't think it's outlandish. In the first six days, about $12 billion was spent trying to neutralize the mullahs. I mean, these things are very expensive, all right? The missiles and all the deployment of the troops and all that. Meanwhile, we're picking up the whole tab. Israel does what it can, but Israel doesn't have any money. They're broke. Okay, they've got enough to do protecting their borders from Hamas and Hezbollah. So, we for the whole world... The United States taxpayer is funding our protection against the mad mullahs of Tehran. Something really wrong with that. But we can't force these people. And that's the situation that we're in, that the United States is likely to win this, and then the Europeans will benefit, and the South Asians will benefit. And then we're left with the tab. Brutal.

Okay. So when we're analyzing this, should money be a factor? I don't know what the alternative is. So if you let the mullahs have a nuclear weapon, and again, there are people who don't believe that they are going to develop a nuclear weapon, but that's based on nothing. That belief is not based on any fact at all. People want to believe it, they believe it. There's no proof. They don't see CENTCOM reports or CIA reports or Mossad reports. I'm gonna believe what I want to believe. Okay. So we are in a situation where we're getting hosed. I think I'm trying to analyze this in a historical way. I've never seen it this bad, where the whole world says, we're not going to help, even though we know the danger involved. We're not helping. We're going to give you anything. Now, can Trump get some of that money back down the road? Maybe, but a smidgen.

Okay. Ipsos poll just conducted, 1,019 adults. This is not a good poll, but I'll throw it out there as the latest we have. First question overall, do you approve or disapprove of US military strikes against Iran? Approved 35%. Disapproved 60%. OK, so why do you disapprove? That's the question. You know they're bad, you've got to know that Iran's bad, right? The overwhelming evidence is they have uranium and they could enrich it into a nuclear weapon, so why are you opposed? I guess the answer would be, well, we shouldn't do it alone, or we need consensus. I guess that would be the answer, but it's not going to get done unless we do it. Second question, in the long run, you think the U.S. Military action in Iran will improve the security of the USA 26 percent, make the security of USA worse 41 percent, and not have much of an impact either way 29. It's another question where you're basing your opinion on what? Worse? How can it be worse if they're developing a nuclear weapon? I guess they could develop three of them. That might be worse. Next question, has the U.S. Military in Iran has an impact on your own personal financial situation? Yes. Mostly positive 1%. I guess those are the defense contractors. Mostly negative 54%, as you would expect, not at an impact 29%. And the last question, considering both the costs and benefits to the USA, do you think it has been worth the USA taking military action in Iran, 24%, say yes. That's very low, very low. Not worth it 51%, don't know, 22%.

Okay. There's a bit of an isolationist movie happening in the USA, but it's not anything major. It's not like World War II, where we had parties that say, no, no. We're not going to go and get involved with Hitler or Tojo in Japan, and no, we're staying here, and that's it. We don't have that. We have gadflies on social media, but that's not a big movement, so you can't blame that. Now, I'm going to give you a brief history lesson. So we all know Adolf Hitler, right? Trying to cover my book, Confronting Evil. And Hitler was not a man of subtlety. He wrote a book called Mein Kampf, where he said, you know, if I get power, I'm wiping out the Jews, the Gypsies, and anybody else I don't like. So they're going. And every German knew it, and everybody in Europe knew it. And then Hitler started to violate the Treaty of Versailles, ended World War I, marched his soldiers all over the place, and imposed the Third Reich from, as I said, the Arctic Circle into North Africa. Nobody did anything about it. We didn't. President Roosevelt didn't want to get involved. Winston Churchill was pounding, saying you've got to help us. You've got to help us. It was just Britain. That was it. They were alone. Perhaps forget it. They surrendered like, you know, in record time. Scandinavia, we surrender. Italy joined forces with Hitler, Mussolini, Spain joined forces, Franco, not formally, but Franco was a fascist, and on and on, and everybody knew this guy wanted to take over the world, he wanted to execute, exterminate people, and he was going to take your country. He wasn't letting you, the only country that he didn't take, Hitler, was Switzerland. Because it was so logistically hard to occupy that country with the Alps, and Hitler needed a financial outpost, which Switzerland provided.

So that is a perfect analogy of what we have here. Everybody knows that Iran sponsors terrorism at a mass level. The authorities say that they are close to a nuclear weapon. Not complicated. We don't want to deal with it. No, no, no. Let them do what they want, because that's the alternative, except for the pope. The pope's alternative is, well, we need more mediation, negotiation. I don't know how many times, Your Holiness, that you're going to have chats. I don't know. I'm not opposed to that, but is that a solution? You seem to be. Now I'm not a warmonger, I had a very interesting discussion with Hannity on his radio program, you should listen to this, on BillOReilly.com, because Hannity, you know, he was in Trump's camp, and he's very critical of the Pope. Hannity and I grew up in the same neighborhood on Long Island, you know, not that close together, but in Nassau County. We both went to Catholic schools, and we know what the religion is. And he and I were very much different on this issue with the Pope and Trump. And here is the key to this whole discussion. Both men are right. See, in America, we have a national sport. Something has to be wrong. Somebody has to be bad. We don't accept, well, we could have two points of view. Both are worthy. We don't accept that. Republicans are good, Democrats are bad, or vice versa. Liberals, conservatives, that's it. Both men, Leo and President Trump, are doing what they're supposed to do. Leo's a pacifist, so was Jesus.

Okay, he didn't want his followers to protect him when he was arrested. He told them to stand down, those who live by the sword. Okay, yeah, he got a little upset when they were selling stuff in the temple. Jesus wasn't a milk toast, but it was, we're pacifists here. We turn the other cheek. That's what Christianity is. The Pope's doing his job. Trump's job is confrontational, it's to protect us from evil. And he's doing his job because, as we pointed out last night, not a president in the last 50 years who would have taken on Iran. Jimmy Carter got waxed by them. That was the end of that. Reagan didn't do it. Bush the elder, Bush the younger. No, no, not doing it, not doing it, no matter how bad they are. Because it's such a mess over there. Trump said, look, I've got a responsibility. These people have to go. They're too dangerous. He's doing his job. So if I could mediate between Leo and the President, I could get them both to agree. They just go at it in different ways. Now, Hannity's point was that the pope injects himself into public policy. Well, he's got a... Explain that. And it's a valid point if Pope Leo is going to say no, no, no, don't go after Iran, then he's going to answer questions about Catholic Church okay with the mullahs having nukes? Are they okay with 30,000 dead in Iran? The pope decided to inject himself into a political situation. Very rare, very rare. The last one was John Paul II, who actually went to Poland, because he was Polish, as you remember, and demanded the Soviet Union start treating the Polish workers with dignity. That was a political move, and it worked. Solidarity, the Soviet Union fell. John Paul will be a saint. He was the only one in our lifetime. Okay, he injected himself in that political situation, but he explained it, human dignity.

And then I brought up, and this is a pretty interesting analysis, I think you'll agree, that a Catholic church in America is different than the Catholic church in Italy. So we're like a non-judgmental church here. And a lot of Catholics don't like that. They want the church to be more judgmental. And Hannity is one of those people. So I pointed out that, hey, President Biden violated every tenet of the Catholic religion, not only did he enable abortion, he promoted it. A great evil, according to Catholic Church, abortion. President of the United States promoted it. Well, you didn't hear much about that. There were a few movements, one in Virginia, to ban President Biden from receiving Communion. Same thing with Nancy Pelosi in San Francisco. But they never really got traction, and the Pope...That was Francis. He didn't get involved with that. So, there's a lot here. And I'm saying to myself, that always bothered me. So Biden's going to go to church every Sunday and make a show out of it, which he did. Okay? And then he is a massive violator of Christian doctrine, Catholic doctrine, and you don't say anything? And literally millions of babies never get to live? That's worse than Iran when you add up the numbers. Iran could be worse down the road, but you know what I'm talking about here. So the Catholic Church is not confrontational in that way. And it departs a little bit from the Nazarene. And remember, I wrote Killing Jesus because he was confrontational. When he saw something that was obviously wrong, Jesus spoke out about it. And that Catholic leaders today aren't by and large.

Now, I'm going to try to get, next week, the smartest Catholic that I can get to debate the issue. This is not an easy booking, because people know where I'm coming from. I know what I'm talking about. But again, I am going to send missives to both. I might see the president next week. I hope so. And I'll say, look, send me to Rome. I'll solve it because all good people should be united against these mullahs. There shouldn't be this division. This helps them. And just today, the mullahs say its going to execute the first woman, Bida Hemmati, a protester. She's going to be hanged over there. And 33,000 is the number. I can't confirm that number. Comes from a group in Norway, a human rights group, the 33,000 dead by the mullahs for protesting, but I cannot confirm it. But it's not out of the realm of possibility. So they're going to have public hangings. And these people are never going to change. And they sense weakness. Believe me, they sense weaknesses all over the place.

Now, the blockade of Hormuz seems to be working. Today, nine oil tankers were turned around by US vessels. No boardings, no firings, none of that. The US Navy just said, you can't go any further. You have to go back to where you came from. So that was nine. More than 10,000 US soldiers, Navy, airmen are enforcing the blockade. It's a lot of folks. So this is working. Do the mullahs hold out? I can't answer the question. But their economy is being, this is just nothing in. They've got to eat. Remember, this is a country that lives on imported materials. Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, gas and everything is going crazy, mullahs love this. So the guy in Canada, the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, did something very smart, and I hope we do it here. He said, we're suspending gas taxes. We're giving our people a break. So the price of gas in Canada will go down. It's up about 30% now. It'll go down because folks up there don't have to pay the gas taxes, so President Trump should do that. Federal gas taxes should be suspended, and then the states should do it too. But the president can't force the states to do it. In California, which is insane, they probably wouldn't do it, but Newsom wants to be president, so maybe I'm overstating that. But good for you, Carney, and that was a smart play. Wholesale inflation around the world is up 4%. That can come back down. I'm not that worried about inflation everywhere, but the mullahs love this. They're wreaking economic havoc in all the infidel sectors. They love it. Can't get enough of this. Inside NATO, that organization of which we're a part, considers a crack. Spain now says it's gonna give amnesty to 500,000 migrants. That's the end of Spain. Okay, sorry, Madrid. Adios. So you cannot allow 500,000 human beings that are not in your culture to swarm into your country all at once and give them citizenship, Spanish citizenship. That's what they're going to do. Why? Because it's a socialist nation bordering on communism. That's why. Does France care? No. I don't think Trump cares. I mean, Spain is so far gone, I don't think they're ever coming back. Told you I'm not going there. But that whole NATO apparatus is wobbling. And who loves that? Putin. The only thing that's constrained Putin from invading the Baltic states, we're talking Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova to the south, just as he did in Ukraine, is NATO. That's it. So Putin's going, Hey, NATO looks like it's on the ropes, so this is great for us. So we'll start invading any time now. Let's keep that in mind. And then we got China, Taiwan. Think China's seeing a strong world here? They may sail into Taiwan Straits tomorrow. Who's gonna stop them? Sorry, Taiwanese. Who's gonna...Nobody gonna help you. Except for us. And I don't know if we can do both with a $1 trillion price tag.

So the pope himself has stopped the rhetoric, which is a good thing. I mean, I want to hear from him, but the political aspect is not helping Pope Leo or the Catholic Church at all. OK, not. So he's in Africa, in Cameroon, Angola, Equatorial Guinea, because Africa is a growing situation for the Catholic faith. Whereas Europe, they bailed on Catholicism a long time ago, we're kind of bailing on it here. About 22%, maybe less, of American Catholics go to Mass every week. And a lot of those 22% are recent immigrants, Hispanics. So anyway, that's why the pope is over in Africa. And he's not saying very much, and I do not expect him. You say, very much going forward. He has turned down an invitation to visit the USA for our 250th birthday on July 4. That was not a good move, right? That's one of the things I want to mediate, come over a couple of days. That would be a good photo op. Anyway, so I'm on with Dan Abrams, the chief legal analyst of ABC News. I've known Abrams forever. And I like Abrams. He's an honest guy. So, of course, this is the pope versus Trump. The secular people and the non-Catholics, this is a huge story for that. OK, roll the tape.

"We know that the Pope has been critical, right? I get it. And I heard you say on your No Spin News that the pope is in the peace business. And I said something very similar on this show yesterday. But how does that explain Trump lashing out the way that he did?"

"Well, he always does. I mean, he doesn't like to be criticized and feels that he has a stronger argument in the public arena. I could mediate this, Abrams. I mean, send me to Rome, I can mediate this whole thing, because I understand the agendas of both men. And they're not hard to understand, but they're cross-current. There's no common ground. So the pope is a pacifist. That's what he is. And the president is confrontational in protecting the American people and others. So you've got, it's two different jobs, and now they have butted heads because of the perception that the United States kind of jumped it too fast. And Pope Leo said, oh, no, no. We needed more mediation and negotiation. Well, how much is enough, Your Holiness? I mean, we've been going around with these people for a while. And I think that President Trump said enough. We warned him. And now we're gonna take the uranium ourselves. And that's what it's all about. ".

And if that happens, I don't expect Pope Leo to say a word. And of course, all the European countries will benefit, as we mentioned, and they'll be, oh, OK, yeah, all right. But we still don't like Trump. And I don't think Pope Leo likes Trump either, but it's not just about this, it's about migration too. Okay, so remember, Pope Leo is a liberal theologian. He worked in South America. He knows the poverty down there. He knows that a lot of people, campesinos, are getting hosed. And that formulates his point of view about the world. And he doesn't like to see Minneapolis. He doesn't like to see this stuff. Now, when you look at the bigger picture, Pope Leo himself has said, I understand you've got to regulate the border. I thought Pope Francis was an open-border guy. Just to let everybody in. But Leo's not that. He wants, quote unquote, humanitarian treatment for all the migrants. Again, this is his job. That's what he does. And you just talk past each other in this controversy. All right. If you want to weigh in on any of this, Bill@BillOReilly.com. How easy is that? Bill, that's me. Bill@BillOReilly.com. That's where we live. Name and town if you wish to opine. Because I'm going to read a bunch of letters, and we have good letters, and people are thinking about this. And I'm glad. This is not the usual knee-jerk political analysis going on here.

The other point I want to make before we get to the smart life segment is the television commentators and newspaper commentators in this country have no clue, because they disrespect organized religion, generally speaking. They're all hedonists, and they're all pagans. They don't know Pope Leo from anybody. They don't know what he does, they don't know why he's there, they think it's a waste of money, they do this, that. They can't analyze this. And they hate Trump. So you get, we hate Trump, and we think that Pope Leo is obsolete, shouldn't even be there, so how are they gonna analyze anything? I mean, I hear that over and over again, I'm sitting there going, you know nothing. Now they should know about the 1930s and Hitler and his expansion. Most of them don't even know that. Crazy, crazy.

Smart Life, an outfit called Rocket Mortgage, surveyed 5,000 Americans, that's a lot, about their neighbors. And only 30% of Americans engage their neighbors; that's not smart. Okay, I understand that you might not like Larry, and Larry might not like you. I got it. If you're in a regular neighborhood, there's lots of people, and they can help you and keep an eye on your house. They can walk your dog if your dog is sick or you're sick. They can call 911 if something happens. I mean, good neighbors are one of the foundations of America. And now, only 3% of us know? We don't even know them. And 17% seek out interactions with neighbors because they're on their phones all the time. We're on our phones, so we don't have time to talk to Larry. I got to go to, you know, TikTok. Whatever that may be. I can't be baking a pie for Bertha. All you need to do is a little generosity. That's it. Be generous, respectful. You don't have to be their best pals. You don't have to hang out with them. But if you have neighbors who actually care about you, just a little, that's going to enhance your life. And this was, you know, not a good indication for America.

All right, if you're Gen Z, that means you were born 1997 to 2010, you like sugar more than any other generation has ever liked sugar. And you're gonna pay a big price for liking sugar. So the top five are cookies, ice cream, chocolate, candy, and cake. I like all of that. And it's all bad. And it erodes your immune system. And it causes diseases like diabetes. And if you eat the candy all the time, you're going to get sick, big sick. So this isn't kind of like some hobby. I'll have another dessert. Dessert is fine. Ice cream once in a while, you know. But I'm telling you, you've got to apply discipline to this. This sugar business is, oh, and the teeth and the gums and never ends. So I have my unsweetened iced tea right here. Okay, because I usually don't drink it. I usually drink just water. I'm so thirsty today, I guess South Florida, I don't know, but I had to get something of substance, but you're not putting sugar in it. Sweet tea, I'm sorry, Bertha, can't come over for sweet tea.

This Day in History, so seven years ago today, Notre Dame burned down. What a catastrophe. So you all know about the fire. And it almost destroyed the whole place. Now, this cathedral was originally built in 1163. Took 200 years to build it. I did not know this, but it is the most visited site in Europe. The cathedral at Notre Dame and the Colosseum in Rome, second. So now they've raised the money, the French. And I understand I haven't seen it, but it's on my list. It's beautiful. All right, they really, they replaced everything painstakingly, the way it was. And the cathedral obviously was immortalized by the book, The Hunchback of Notre Dame. It's Notre Dame, and that put it into the lexicon. And then Napoleon made the dictator there, and Victor Hugo wrote the book. And beneath the cathedral, when you're not allowed to go, and I'm not, is a pagan city. They often did that, the Catholic authorities. Pagan cities, they put churches on top of them. All right, so that is this day in history. Seven years, but it's up and running. Okay, we got some good mail on the Pope-Trump deal. We'll be back with that in a moment.

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Brian on the message board, it means Brian's a Concierge Member or a Premium Member, and Brian interacts with other members on the Message Board. "The photoshop of President Trump appearing as Jesus only makes matters worse. Why he even passed it along is beyond any comprehension. To me, he doesn't act like a serious person when he does things like this." I don't think that helped him or America, I kind of agree. I'm giving him a little bit of a pass because the man's exhausted. That pass-along came at 4 AM, if you noticed, when it came out on social media.

Peter is a Concierge Member. Peter gets my crew to help him if there's trouble. "If you are able to moderate or mediate a debate between these two hugely influential heads of state and show us the give and take, that would be remarkably healing to all. It would not be a debate. That would never happen. Both men are way, way above that. It would be a discussion. What do you think your job is? What do you think your job is, in a nice way? That is my vision.

Belinda. "In my opinion, President Trump would be wise to take a page out of George W. Bush's book. President Bush had horrendous things said about him, but he usually ignored it, not dignifying the horrible things with a reply." And I talked to Bush the Younger about that thoroughly. And I said, no, no. But his philosophy was, not going to get involved with it. Now you can make the decision whether that is proper or not.

Ted Lyon, St. Charles, Missouri. "There's no doubt that overall prices have increased since 2019. I would have appreciated some context, Bill, on how much they've risen under Trump, Biden, and Trump two." I gave you the dates, so I'm expecting you to do the math, Ted. I can't do everything for you, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's how the American people are feeling in November about the economy that matters. That's the only thing. They're not, they don't like Biden anyway, but Biden's not going to be an influencer in this election.

Tom Hickey, Lakeland, Minnesota. "Israel sucked the USA into a war. Why would the European nations join Trump fiasco? Donald Trump did not consult NATO or any other countries prior to bombing Iran." Because if he did that, then the mullahs would have escaped. There was a secret mission to get them, and they got them. And if you had broadcast it, they wouldn't have got them. All I can do is explain the news cycle here.

Darren Stelmach, Nolansville, Tennessee. "Hey Bill, why doesn't President Trump get the oil companies together like he did with the pharmaceutical companies and ask them to lower their margins temporarily?" It's a good idea. I spoke to the president about it. He should be out front on this. And if he did that and he dropped the tax, things would come down quicker.

Kathy Ledbetter, Newark, California. "We received the 250 birthday hat. My husband was excited to get it. First day he wore it, a lady said to my husband, what's the 250 mean? He said, our country's birthday. And she said, I should have known that." Yeah. Yeah. That people don't pay attention. Okay, you can get those hats on our bookstore on BillOReilly.com, the best item we've ever had. The 250 USA hats, you want them, and it will engender discussion, and you'll be able to educate people around you. Word of the Day: do not be pawky, P-A-W-K-Y, pawky. Back with a final thought in a moment.

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Okay, Final Thought, I'm down here doing some charity work in South Florida. And on Friday, I'm giving a speech, Q&A, to a Catholic church, a big one. That should be interesting. And it just happened. It just broke that way. I had this on my calendar for six months. It just broke that way, and I'm not going to tell you what it is, because I don't want it. It was already sold out, and I don't want any, you know, chaos. I'll report back on Monday and tell you what the reaction was at the Catholic Church. And the Q&A is going to be pretty lively, and that's for sure. I'm happy I'm here. Nice day today in South Florida. And I'm very happy you took the time to watch and listen to the No Spin News. New column on Sunday, and we'll see you again on Monday.

What Comes Next for Iran's Nuclear Program

2026-04-15T15:54:00Z

Dr. Olli Heinonen, Distinguished Fellow at the Stimson Center, joins the No Spin News to provide insight on Iran’s nuclear program and how it should be addressed going forward.

Trump-Pope Feud Continues

2026-04-15T15:52:00Z

Iran is winning the PR war after Trump faces pushback about his comments about the Pope.

Trump's Legacy

2026-04-15T07:25:00Z

President Trump is facing his legacy: Iran. If the Mullahs surrender, he achieves a major historical victory. If the USA and the world slide into recession and inflation, Mr. Trump will be hammered by his critics, and history will turn on him.

The odds are in the President’s favor because the internal situation inside Iran is weak. The Mullahs can hold out, but not much longer.

If Trump achieves victory, there will be hell to pay for NATO. He will make Europe suffer economically for its cowardice. NATO is hapless. Putin will take advantage of that.

President Trump is unique. No other modern leader would have attacked Iran. Too much downside. Can you imagine Kamala Harris dealing with this? Never happen.

All Americans should be rooting against evil. Even if you don’t like Mr. Trump, he is on the side of the angels, trying to neutralize Iran. Let’s just hope he doesn’t dress up like one.

Insolent

2026-04-14T22:32:00Z

[in·so·lent] showing a rude and arrogant lack of respect.

Trump Feud Continues with the Pope & the Media Picks Sides, the US Blockade of the Strait of Hormuz & a New Immigration Law in FL

2026-04-14T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Tuesday, April 14th, 2026. Stand up for your country. Pretty slow news day with the exception of Iran and the swirl around it. I said at the very beginning, and you'll remember, that this was the biggest gamble President Trump has ever taken in his entire life. And we still don't know how that gamble is going to work out for the president. Can he prevail over Iran? Is the U.S. going to look foolish and weak in the eyes of the world? NATO is against him. The American media is against him. Talking about President Trump now. China and Russia are not our friends. We have some Gulf states, like Saudi Arabia, who are on our side. But we are heavily outnumbered. It is just amazing that Iran, a terrorist state, is winning the PR war, and that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo.

So the American media is dominant all over the world. If you go anywhere, you'll see CNN. They got in early, and they dominate coverage in the English-speaking areas. Okay. So CNN despises Donald Trump, and they're never going to approve of anything he ever does. And we have a situation where once you get the pope involved, that the secular media is going to go over and support the pope no matter what. You know, they see Trump as the devil. Here's what I said on News Nation last night. Go.

"I was just stunned at the pagans in the media being so upset with the Jesus picture. I mean, these are people, the last time they saw the inside of a church was when they were baptized. So, I mean it's a little, a lot of hypocrisy in the air."

But it's predictable, okay? So now the pope is the good guy and the president is the bad guy. This is always the way it comes down. Now, the pope is a good guy, okay, I can tell you that, but I'm gonna explain it so that we all understand it. After the media came out and said, yeah, the Pope is right, and Trump is wrong, and Trump is disrespectful, whatever. Then cable news ran wild with that. Go.

"Let's start with the president. This was a sloppy and frankly disrespectful attack on the pope. I don't think he should have issued this kind of long ad hominem. He didn't get any points for doing this, there's nothing good that comes of it. So, you know, he shouldn't have gone down this path."

"Why would he do this?"

"Right."

"And look, you'll have some people on the right who will say, well, we disagree with what the pope says. Well, we support the president's actions, and the pope doesn't. Okay, but that doesn't mean you've got to go after the pope. Right?"

"It was rather shocking to hear the President attack the Pope, considering that there are 60 million Catholics in the United States, 1.4 billion around the world. And I think his remarks were certainly offensive to many Catholics and generally people of goodwill."

Okay, they weren't offensive to me, and I'm a Catholic, and I think I'm a person of goodwill, because I understand where the President is coming from and I understand where Pope Leo is. I could mediate this myself. I could go to Rome and mediate the two sides, and the reason I could do it is because I understand both sides. So Pope Leo's job is to promote peace, he's a pacifist. He doesn't really come at it from a political point of view. So logically, my question as a Catholic is, okay, Your Holiness, you saw Iran kill tens of thousands of its own people just a few weeks ago in the streets. Catholic Church didn't say anything. And it's true. Not a word. And now you know, because this is what the war is all about, that the West, at least Israel and the United States, believe that Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon which you would use to kill hundreds of thousands of people. Is that okay with the Vatican? Remember, the Vatican's a separate country. Is it okay?

So these questions are never asked, and it's not the fault of the media. They don't get an opportunity to ask those questions, but certainly those questions need to be answered if Pope Leo is going to inject himself into this war, which he has. But he's done it passively. It's not like he went up and said, listen to me and this, that. It's now what he did. He took his philosophy of pacifism, all right, and put it forth to the world, which is what he is compelled to do. He didn't do anything wrong. But in a realistic situation, there are things that need to be answered.

Now, President Trump's job is not to be a pacifist, it's to be a protector of his people, we, the American people, and the world to some extent, although we have divorced ourselves from NATO and, you know, not entirely our fault, but his job, the President's job, is to protect people from terrorist states like Iran. Those two jobs, Pope Leo and Pope, and Pope Trump, sorry about that, and President Trump, now I'm gonna get, those two jobs are exclusive. There's no common ground, but there could be. There could be, and the key is people of goodwill. So, I assume the United States wants to vanquish Iran because it is a theocracy that kills people. Simple as that. And the Pope should want Iran vanquished for the same reason. There's your common ground right there. But the media is way beyond them.

You know, if you know your Bible, you know when the Nazarene and I wrote Killing Jesus, you guys know that, was being tried, he was being mocked by Romans, Centurians, and others, who said hey, King of the Jews, if you're such a king, bring your army down and free yourself. And Jesus didn't say a word. Okay, because he was destined to be executed, and that passivity has been passed down over the centuries, and it's very important that people understand what's the underlying thing here. Remember when Jesus is on the cross, he says, according to the gospels, okay, Father, forgive them. They know not what they do. Now, Jesus was just talking about the centurions there. The Romans who actually nailed him to the cross, they were just conscripts. They didn't know anything. He was forgiving them because they didn't know what they were doing. He wasn't forgiving the whole apparatus that led to his destruction. Now, a lot of people don't understand that.

So anyway, I wish I could mediate this because it's not good for the world to have Iran winning the PR race here. In Italy, Giorgia Meloni, the prime minister, has condemned Trump's remarks about the pope, but, you know, she finds it unacceptable, okay, fine. It's a political play. Robert Barron, who I respect, is a bishop in Minnesota, very powerful man on the internet. He said that the comments made by Trump about the Pope were inappropriate and disrespectful. I'm not sure if I agree with the bishop about inappropriate, disrespectful, yeah, Trump could have done it differently. But inappropriate? Well, we're trying to get to the bottom of this thing. We're trying to rally people of goodwill to line up with the United States to stop the terror of government in Iran. I don't know if that's inappropriate. Anyway, that's where we are, and that is the Memo.

Day two of the blockade, a few ships got through, but I think the blockade is the best strategy. I don't have the CENTCOM reports that the president gets every morning, but it looks like to starve Iran out and deprive them of all revenue is the way to go here. Until they come to the table. And apparently, there's rumors that there's going to be more talks. So I don't know. I'm going to D.C. Next week. I'll try to do a little fact-finding there. I don't know whether I'll see the president or not. He did invite me to come, but I was pretty busy. So we'll see. But it is incredible that Iran is actually winning the battle of public opinion with the tremendous help of the American media. Joining us now from New York City is Dr. Olli Heinonen, who is a distinguished fellow at the Stimson Center, which is considered a nonpartisan think tank in D.C., based. However, the doctor is a former deputy director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the IAEA, which is located in Austria. And that's a good booking for us. We certainly want to talk to you, Doctor. So there are a lot of people in the United States who don't believe that Iran is a nuclear threat at all. That's because they don't want to believe it. It's not based on anything other than they don't like Trump. They don't wanna support Trump. So Iran's really not that much of a threat. My question to you is the simple one: Do you believe Iran is a threat to the world?

"First of all, thank you for having me."

Sure.

"Yes. I think what is missing from this discussion as a whole are the facts, pure facts. What kind of capabilities Iran has today, how it has been using the high-energy uranium it's producing, and what is the end plan for that material, which is very, very unusual, as the Director General of the IAEA has said. We don't know very much about their plans. We don't know whether there are some additional new facilities, which still remain to be disclosed to the IAEA and to the international community. And now we have the first meeting, the first step, most likely on a very, very long journey. So let's concentrate on that and look at what needs to be done next and get the people again together, talk, maybe from very different angles, but then they perhaps can find a solution which meets the U.S. Requirement. Iran will have no nuclear weapons. And Iran takes measures to convince the international community that that is really the case."

Okay, but in this country, there is a widespread belief that we did destroy a lot of the enriched uranium last summer, in June, with the bombing raids there. Do you believe the United States raids did destroy some uranium in that situation? Do you believe it?

"I don't believe it before I see the facts, let's put it this way. But let's look what took place in Fordo, Natanz, or Isfahan and a couple of locations associated with those facilities. Sure, it had a devastating impact on Iran's enrichment program. They cannot enrich any uranium anytime soon in those locations, that's for sure. But the main question is, what is the status of uranium? They are normally stored in a small, very strong cylinders in special vaults. How much did they damage or did they get damaged at all, or are they just buried under the rubble?"

So you don't know exactly the extent of Iran's nuclear program as we sit here and talk. You don't exactly know what they have. Right?

"We have some numbers from the IAEA, but we have also to remember a couple of nuances from the IAI reports. I think ballpark figures are most likely correct, but IAIA has said all the time in all reports in the last few years that these are estimates based on information provided by Iran. Good to remember. So there may be small surprises. But now it's important to get the IAEA there, get the facts from the ground, freeze the material, see the equipment, see the cylinders, see rest of the infrastructure, to see can we monitor it, is it all destroyed, and what kind of measures should be in place to provide assurances that this material is by no means diverted from the current locations without international community seeing."

So you believe that there is an enrichment program in Iran, an active enrichment program. You believe that?

"No, there is no evidence that it was terminated, and we have to think a little bit more carefully about these definitions. It's easy to say once you blow up a building that, oh, it's all gone. But as I said, we don't know where the material is."

All right, you don't know what the ancillary, where they had it. Now, the situation is easily solved by allowing the IAEA inspectors to go in and look. But the Iranians will not allow that. Correct?

"Yes, that's it."

Why wouldn't they allow it if they weren't misbehaving?

"Well, to show that they are innocent and this is all false information, so please come and verify."

So it's about, you're not going to push us around? That's what it's about after they lost their top leadership, and their structure has been reduced by bombings? They're still saying, well, you're not going to push us around. All I have to do, Doctor, is let you guys in to look every couple of months to see what they're doing, right?

"No, there has to be continuous presence, not once in two months. That is a non-start for a serious approach."

How, all right, whatever it may be, how long would you, you'd have to be a presence there, you'd have to be there at all times?

"Continuous presence until one has come to the solution of what to do with this nuclear material which is there.".

But I don't worry about that.

"What to do with the rest of the centrifuges with storage. They are not all in Natanz, Isfahan, or Fordow. They have an industrial production cycle. They are in the manufacturing places as they were in 2004 when the IAEA started the verification, some 20 locations all over in Iran."

All right, do you understand why the United States and Israel then went in militarily? Because we have been told that this is a threat to the world, that Iran is a threat to the world because they are close to having enriched uranium at the weapons-grade level for nuclear. So, this is so important for Americans to know whether this is true or not. Right?

"It is, and it is for everyone important to know, and this is where the trouble is that we don't know, and we have to remember that they have still the know-how. They may have the motivation because now that they own this high-end uranium, this is also a bargaining chip, what to do with that. So there are many factors which kind of attract Iran to use this, as I would say, negotiation weapon, in quotation marks."

But they're not cooperating at this point. Would you favor them with the non-cooperation, the military action? Is that the right thing to do for the world?

"Well, military action has taken place. That's a fact. Let's put that one behind."

Yeah, but you're a human being. I mean, do you say, yeah, it should have, or no, or too early, or, you know, I'm trying to get some perspective here, doctor, because people obviously are confused. They don't know.

"First of all, Italians know something which we may not know, but there are several reasons why they don't want to make it public in detail. Let's start from that. The Iranian system is very, very compromised through the satellite force, et cetera. We saw it as a result of bombing, but there are items missing from the picture, which makes me, as a former inspector, feel a little bit uneasy. Where are those species? Is someone having perhaps a tiny small enrichment plant, 1,000 centrifuges, 2,000 centrifuges slowly spinning somewhere, or ready to spin using those centrifuges which might be still in the stock? So these are the questions we need to raise."

Yeah, you can raise them all day long, but if they don't cooperate with you, your organization, and others in monitoring, then we're never going to get anywhere unless we blow the hell out of them and the regime changes. Anyway, doctor, we appreciate the conversation. It's obviously extremely complex. You know, I wrote a book called Confronting Evil, where the worst people on earth attain power and destruction by good people looking away. And that's what I think we might have here in Iran, but we appreciate your time very much. Okay, now I wish the pope had heard that conversation, because it's not 100 percent, but I think it's pretty high, that the Iranians do have a nuclear program, a weapons program, and that they would use it against Israel if they could by proxy. You know, it's not hard once you have the nuclear device to make it so that it can go and be deployed by third parties and our wrongdoers, not us, we didn't do it, you know, that kind of thing. So the Pope has not dealt with anything close to that, and neither did his predecessor, Pope Francis. I want to reiterate again, both of whom, in my opinion, are good men. They want the best for the world. Here's the closest we could come to their definition of the problem. Go.

"It must be said clearly, there are those who work systematically and by all means to repel migrants to repel migrants. And this, when it is done with conscience and responsibility, is a grave sin."

"No one has said that the United States should have open borders. I think every country has a right to determine who, and how, and when people enter. But when people are living good lives, and many of them for 10, 15, 20 years, to treat them in a way that is extremely disrespectful, to say the least, and there's been some violence, unfortunately, I think that the bishops have been very clear in what they said. And I think that I would just invite all people in the United States to listen to them."

Okay, and that was the genesis of Trump's disenchantment with the popes. If it had just been about Iran, I don't think this would have happened. But the president believes that both of these guys are open borders. Now, Francis, I got to say, he was an open-border guy, based upon everything that he said. He didn't want any restraint. Leo is a bit more nuanced on that, that they should follow the law, but the law should change. And I'm kind of sympathetic to that, myself. I think we could have a much fairer system here in America. But Trump sees it as a repudiation of his tough migrant policies. And he believes that he has saved lives, thousands of lives, by keeping criminal foreign nationals out of this country, and that both Popes ignore that. And that is why he, Trump, we need a pope, I don't like the pope, you know, that was the fuse, and then the Iran thing came up.

Now in Florida, there is a new law just signed on April Fool's Day, April 1st, by Governor Ron DeSantis, it says on your driver's license, everybody in Florida who gets a Florida driver's license, gotta have your immigration status. And that begins in 2027. And that's a basically ID play to vote. But if you're gonna use your driver's license to prove your identification, it's gonna have you're illegal citizen or you're not. I like the law. The states need to have authority to regulate who's voting because, remember, the states are in charge of the election process. So DeSantis did the smart thing here. Now it'll go into the federal poll, the judges, all of that, but DeSantis will win on this. So that just happened, wasn't reported at all. Other political things, Congressman Tony Gonzalez, Republican Texas, has quit because of accusations against him. So has Congressman Eric Swalwell, California Democrat. He's quit. Both out of the house, and Swalwell is not going to run for governor, which he would have won the primary there. So look, these accusations are extremely serious. They should be vetted, obviously. So we know the due process was honored, but it looks like both of these guys, major problems, so they're out and but we should have a major investigation on this. Absolutely.

So because of that the odds, political odds about November are starting to shape up. According to Cook Political outfit, it's going to be very hard for the Democrats to take back the Senate. It looks like the Republicans are still solid there, but Iran is going to have a lot to do with this because that leads to higher prices for everything, as you all know. And I don't know, nobody knows how long it's going to last. If next week it stops and Trump can declare a victory, which he will anyway, then the Republicans will be in decent shape because the Democrats don't have any leadership, none. Somebody asked me today about Hillary Clinton getting back in the game. It's not beyond the pale. Hillary is making herself available to sympathetic television outlets that aren't going to ask her any tough questions. And there's a reason why this woman is doing that. She sees the same thing that we all see. There's no leadership in the Democratic Party.

Smart Life. So raising a child in the United States costs more than 300,000, not including college tuition, according to Lending Tree, an online marketplace. Top five where it's most expensive: Hawaii, Alaska, Maryland, California, New Jersey. 300K plus in all of those places. The most efficient cost of raising a child is in New Hampshire, 200,000. DC, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama. Now, 300,000. So, yeah, think about it. You don't have the money, don't have the kids. Sorry. You can't be raising them in deprivation. And then the college thing is very important. Sorry, again, some people go, oh, it's not important. It is important. Okay, you've got to educate your kid to the full extent of the child's potential. So when you and your wife or you and your husband are discussing having children, you have a responsibility financially. This is a smart life segment. That's not an easy thing, particularly for working class. It's a lot of money. You're bringing them into this world, and you're not preparing them, and they're going to be behind, don't have them. It's not worth it. So I hate to be a mercenary about it, but this is important stuff. And if you are going to bring children into the world, you've got to save and plan and do all of that. Now, Trump has made it easier by these accounts, tax-free accounts, that will build up and help with the financial expenses for children. It's a good thing. He got no publicity whatsoever.

This Day in History, April 14th, 2024, just two years ago. Very interesting story that ties into right now. So the Israeli government attacked Iran's embassy in Syria, in Damascus, all right, because Iran was funding Hamas and Hezbollah. So they blew it up. The Israelis blew it out, killed 16. And then the Iranians attacked Iran, missiles, mostly. Iran's Golden Dome shot down most of those missiles. Netanyahu asked President Biden for help. Biden said no. Interesting story, I didn't even put this together. Okay, so two years ago today, they had a phone call, and Biden goes, we support Israel, but we're not getting involved with this because we don't want a wider conflict in the Middle East. What do you think that message was to the mullahs? Look at this, okay, we can do this. And then, you know, add to that, October 7th, 23, all right, before that, where Hamas wiped out more than a thousand Jewish civilians. Iran was behind Hamas that whole way, so Netanyahu and Israel are going, okay, we do not have a friend in the White House. Biden is not a friend to us, which is absolutely true. So the seeds of this war were planted in the Obama and Biden administrations. This Day in History. Okay. Get a lot of mail. It's all over the place on Iran. And it's very interesting to read it at different points of view. We're going to do that for you when we come right back.

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We got Mike, Concierge Member, Mike, it's special access to me on BillOReilly.com. "Why wouldn't someone in Congress push to have federal and state gasoline taxes put on a holiday? I'm sure we can delay road and climate construction. In my state, Washington, it would drop gas prices 73 cents a gallon." Number one, the feds don't have any authority over Washington state and its taxing. Okay, so your governor would have to do that. But the fed's can in DC and other areas they control, they can drop it. And it should. Absolutely should.

Teresa. "I think the oil companies are price gouging. A manager at one of the stations in our neighborhood told us. If this is true, would you investigate?" I've already done that, Teresa, 15 times, okay? Yeah, they're gouged. The American oil companies, like the insurance companies, are making record profits. From the war and from natural disasters and everything like that, because there isn't any regulation of what they are doing. Now, there the feds can step in, Department of the Interior, things like that, but boy, it's terrible. But it's money. Corporations want money.

Carol, Concierge Member. "President Trump never sold the concept of standing up to Iran to voters, because he thought the conflict would be quick and easy. Few voters followed the news, hence they were blindsided." Okay, I think that's accurate. Everybody thinks that they're compatriots, their peers follow the news, and they don't. They live in a bubble.

Salvatore Ventura, Burr Ridge, Illinois. "Bill, please tell us what nations are helping President Trump's naval blockade." It's the Gulf states. And they're helping a little bit because they don't have a big Navy apparatus over there. But that's it. Nobody else is helping us. Boy, that's bad.

Jimmy Wagers, Bangkok, Thailand. "I'm sure you know the story of the Little Red Hen. This is how I see Europe. Not wanting to do any of the work, but really happy to reap the benefit of what the USA is doing." Right on. Why should they do anything? They'll wait until we crush Iran, and then there'll be a more peaceful world that they'll benefit from. Absolutely, what's going on.

Linda, Concierge Member. "I feel like Iran is laughing at us. They see the hate the left has for the president. Some of the talk by politicians on the left seems almost treasonous. Certainly hinders our negotiations with Iran. Of course, the president doesn't help with his unrestrained social media posts." I don't have any beef with that analysis. Treason, you know, you can't dissent, and they'll always hide behind dissent, the press, isn't treason.

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All right, Final Thought of the day. Right after the taping here, hopping on a plane going down to Florida, where I'm going to do a couple of charitable things. One for Joe Namath who's got a charity that helps football players who have brain problems and another event for a Catholic church down in Palm Beach. That ought to be interesting. I'm going in on Friday, chatting with the congregation. So we're down in Florida, and this is my whole life here. So it's been the coldest winter I can ever explain to you how cold it's been in the Northeast. In eastern Long Island, where I have a house, the ocean froze. That's how bad it is or was. Now it's gonna be 90 this week, and I'm heading to Florida. I can't get a break on this. All right, but that's okay. We have friends down there. Always good to get a little ocean, a little breeze. I may go in, I may go in the ocean. I'm kind of a chicken now if it's not 72 or 73, the water temperature, but I'm gonna try to get in there, get a little dunk. So, we'll be down in Florida. We'll be doing the program from there tomorrow, and some of our other stuff from Florida. We will be back over the weekend and here on Monday. So thanks very much for watching the No Spin News, and we will see you from Florida tomorrow.

Trump Feud Continues with the Pope & the Media Picks Sides, the US Blockade of the Strait of Hormuz & a New Immigration Law in FL

2026-04-14T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, April 14, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Iran is winning the PR war after Trump faces pushback about his comments about the Pope.
Rumors of more talks to come between the U.S. and Iran on day 2 of the blockade in the Strait of Hormuz.
Dr. Olli Heinonen, Distinguished Fellow at the Stimson Center, joins the No Spin News to provide insight on Iran’s nuclear program and how it should be addressed going forward.
Controversial new immigration status law in Florida explained.
Rep. Tony Gonzalez (R-TX) joins Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) in stepping down due to calls to resign in the wake of sexual misconduct scandals.
Final Thought: Temperatures are heating up, the No Spin News is coming to you from Florida tomorrow.

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Donald Trump vs. Pope Leo

2026-04-14T16:34:00Z

Cheryl Chumley, Washington Times Online Opinion Editor, joins the No Spin News to discuss the Iran war and Donald Trump’s latest religious implications.

What's Next After Unproductive Iran Peace Talks

2026-04-14T16:33:00Z

Bill runs down what happened during Iran peace talks in Pakistan, and what the United States’ next move will be.

Can the U.S. Outlast Iran? Bill O'Reilly Weighs In on NewsNation

2026-04-14T16:25:00Z

Bill O’Reilly joins On Balance with Leland Vittert to discuss next steps on Iran, divided views on how Trump is handling the war, and his recent backlash from Christians.

O'Reilly on Trump's Latest Gambit

2026-04-14T16:19:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Rita Cosby and John Catsimatidis and assesses Donald Trump’s decision to establish a naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz. Bill also examines the president's dustup with Pope Leo over matters of war and peace.

O'Reilly & Mark Simone on the Pope vs. the President

2026-04-14T16:00:00Z

Bill joins radio host Mark Simone and evaluates the much-hyped dispute between Pope Leo and President Trump. Bill criticizes both men, as well as the media types who are suddenly defending Catholicism.

The Vatican vs. Washington

2026-04-14T07:44:00Z

Talk about heavyweight matches; the Pope vs. President Trump. Spiritual power against secular authority. Henry VIII challenged Pope Clement way back when.

You may know, after reading “Confronting Evil,” that old Hank was fond of divorcing his wives. So, he demanded that the Pope go along with dumping Catherine of Aragon, providing an annulment. Considering the death do us part thing, the Pope declined.

It didn’t matter because Henry exiled the forlorn Catherine and married Anne Boleyn anyway. Years later, he executed her. The portly King was not a man you wanted to date.

Henry and Clement’s tiff led to religious wars that killed hundreds of thousands, mostly peasants.

Today, we have strife between the Vatican and Washington over Iran. Leo is a “turn the other cheek” pacifist, the President a confrontational opponent of evil.

Both men are sincere, in my view, but their goals are miles apart. Unlike the cowards in NATO, Pope Leo is a man of conviction. But peace can’t happen when killers are allowed to run wild.

That’s where Donald Trump comes in.

A serious conversation is needed here, not just sound bites for TV. Hope that happens.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

Japery

2026-04-14T00:28:00Z

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What's Next After Unproductive Iran Peace Talks, Cheryl Chumley on Donald Trump vs. Pope Leo & Eric Swalwell - California Gubernatorial Candidate Scandal

2026-04-13T22:00:00Z

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Talking Points Memo: Bill runs down what happened during Iran peace talks in Pakistan, and what the United States’ next move will be.
President Trump denounces Pope Leo’s political views.
Cheryl Chumley, Washington Times Online Opinion Editor, joins the No Spin News to discuss the Iran war and Donald Trump’s latest religious implications.
Eric Swalwell backs down in the face of scandal.
Cuba Update: the Cuban government catches a break because the U.S. is focused on Iran.
Final Thought: Catch Bill on NewsNation with Leland Vittert tonight, and don’t miss last week’s episode of We’ll Do It LIVE! With Howie Mandel.

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What's Next After Unproductive Iran Peace Talks, Cheryl Chumley on Donald Trump vs. Pope Leo & Eric Swalwell - California Gubernatorial Candidate Scandal

2026-04-13T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly, here. Welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, April 13th 2026. Stand up for your country. More craziness in the Iran Basin, but I'm getting the feeling that things may start to turn positive for the USA and, of course, the world, but the world doesn't know it, in a day or two could be wrong. This is speculation, but there are some positive signs, and that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo.

So over the weekend, talks in Pakistan between Iran and the USA went nowhere. Everybody's out of there now. So it was, I don't know, a waste of time. But certainly, the mullahs are feeling no pressure to comply with President Trump's and Israel's demands. They like this. This is good for the mullahs, helps spread the jihad, okay? They're not in any mood to compromise at all. So the United States now has to try to starve Iran out. And they're gonna do that by blockading the Straits of Hormuz to all shipping in and out of Iranian ports. If you're a Saudi ship or Emirates, you can go through. But if you are attached to Iran dropping things off or picking things up, you cannot. And the U.S. Navy will enforce that, and I have the utmost confidence that the Navy will. In the meantime, they're kind of clearing out a lot of the drones and mines and things like that. And CENTCOM, U.S. Central Command, says that this is only impacting maritime traffic to Iran. Okay? So nobody else is involved unless you're buying stuff, and China does, and that's big, okay, from the mullahs.

Now, is it going to work? Who knows? But there's a pretty big chance it will. And that means that all commerce inside Iran will stop, and people have to eat. So that's the strategy now. Will it bring the mullahs to their knees? Nobody knows that. You can watch stupid cable all day long, and they'll speculate, but nobody can possibly know. A negative to this is the UK. And that's Keir Starmer, the prime minister, says we're not going to help. And that means that none of the other NATO countries will help either. And they could with the blockade, all right? But they won't. Boy, oh boy, that's really a negative for the world when the whole continent of Europe sits it out. There's a reason. They don't like Israel. Nobody likes Israel, and they don't like Trump. That's it. If another president were there, they'd have maybe a little. But with the Greenland thing and all that, this is personal now. It's not good. And there's nothing Donald Trump can do about it at this point. Can't force NATO to cooperate. Now, other countries, like Afra mentioned Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, and that'll be a new alliance there. But it is a conundrum, that's my favorite new word here, for the United States and Israel. And I wrote a column yesterday, and I hope you read it on BillOReilly.com, called Disruption. Again, the mullahs like this, this is good for the jihad. We're powerful, we're gonna do what we want, that United States isn't gonna show us anything or tell us what to do. That's the mentality here. It's not like we want to make a deal They don't want to Make a deal like Putin in ukraine It's almost exactly the same mentality Now, maybe they will have to Once they're starving, but I don't know.

This morning, the DOW opened 184 points down. It recovered in the afternoon. Oil is up to about $104 a barrel. That's up 60% from a year ago. So everybody's suffering. Higher prices. We'll tell you about that in Smart Life. It's just the reality. And a lot of Americans don't like it. And some of them will vote against Trump because of the higher prices in the midterms. The President has to know that. He's hoping for a positive outcome. So that the prices go down quickly, but this is very intense. You may remember at the beginning of all this, I said that this was the biggest gamble of the Trump presidency, and it obviously is. It could go either way. In the meantime, the media continues to pound Trump because they hate him, too. It's very much like NATO. This is personal. And here's what the president said about the media. Go.

"Sad when you look at CNN, the New York Times, ABC fake news, NBC fake news. When you look at this stuff, it's so sad to see it. I mean, they report things that they know are false. It's almost treasonous, actually, if you want to really know the truth."

Okay, so summing up, the president can't pull back on this now. He's gotta carry it through. So there can't be any, mullahs get to keep their uranium, or they get any participation in the Straits of Hormuz, that can't happen. Trump's presidency would be destroyed. So he's gotta know that and makes it very much complicated. But I just have a feeling that this blockade in Hormuz is really going to energize the Persian people, because boy, oh boy. You think it's rough here, us was paying more. Over there? Oof. And that's the Memo. Alright, so the Pope is involved with this, and it's being reported all wrong. So the Pope is in the turn the other cheek business. That's the business that the pontiff is in. Turn the other cheek. Peace at almost all costs. You remember in the Gospel that when the Nazarene was being condemned, he was mocked by the Roman centurions and even some other people that had proximity to him. Well, if you're God, bring down your angel legions and free, you know, that kind of thing. And Jesus just stood there and looked at them. The Pope is in the peace business. That's where he is. President Trump's in the confrontation business. He wants to solve problems that some are. Okay, obviously, the mullahs having a nuclear weapon could lead to worldwide destruction. So there are two different points of view here. It's not like the Pope and President Trump are sitting down and they're trying to figure out a strategy. There are two strategies, okay? The first strategy is Pope Leo saying, everybody stop, we want peace, warmongers are bad. And the other one is Donald Trump saying, hey, I have an obligation to protect the American people. Here's what the president said on Truth Social. "I don't want a pope who thinks it's okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. I don't want a Pope who thinks it's terrible that America attacked Venezuela, a country that was sending massive amounts of drugs into the United States, and even worse, emptying their prisons, including murderers, drug dealers, and killers, into our country. And I don't want a pope who criticizes the president of the United States because I'm doing exactly what I was elected in a landslide to do." Unquote. All right, so he, President Trump, is mad at the pope. He doesn't want the pope intruding with criticism on him. The Pope doesn't much like President Trump. Roll that.

"I will continue to speak out loud against war, looking to promote peace, promoting dialogue and multilateral relationships among the states to look for just solution to problems. Too many people are suffering in the world today. Too many innocent people are being killed."

Okay, now if I'm discussing this with the Pope, I'm saying yes, but what is the obligation that you have as the leader of the Catholic Church worldwide to stop that killing? So, innocent people are being killed, right? That's true. What's your obligation to stop it? That's my question. The pope is going to say, my obligation is to tell everybody not to do it. He's not a, he's not, his business is not in public policy. This is like comparing the Navy SEALs to the Carmelite nuns. SEALS are in the business of warfare. And the Carmelite nuns are in the business of helping people without any violence whatsoever, and they never will be. So I hope you see, and the two sides are talking past each other. If I could moderate a discussion between the Pope and President Trump, I could get a consensus on this, I think. But that's not going to happen, of course. Anyway, so there's literally, abroad, no one sticking up for the USA in this, and there are a lot of people enabling the mullets, and that is the Memo.

In interesting historical perspective here, only one pope in my lifetime has intruded himself into a political situation. That was Pope John Paul II, the first Polish pope. He served a long time, and he was elected in 1978, and he went to Poland, which was dominated by the Soviet Union, totalitarianism in '79, and basically said, hey, you have to be, you have to change. You have to treat the Polish people humanely. That's the only pope that I know of that injected himself into politics. Isn't that interesting? Joining us now from Washington or nearby is the online opinion editor of the Washington Times, Cheryl Chumley. And Cheryl's got an interesting book out called God Given or Bus: Defeating Marxism and Saving America with Biblical Truths. So this is the perfect guess for us. Let's do the overall number one assessment that Donald Trump is in a tight spot right now. How tight do you think it is?

"Thanks for having me first off, Bill. And to answer your question, it's only tight if he doesn't have the resolve to see it through. You made the key point here that this administration cannot back down from Iran. Otherwise, they're toast, right? They'd just embolden the regime further, and they'd weaken America around the world. So this administration has to continue until Iran bows. So, that's the tight spot, but you also made the point, and I agree with you, that, you know, this blockade could do wonders in bringing Iran to its knees, particularly because of the internal pressures from the citizens that will result from it."

All right, but the likelihood of the mullahs caring about their own people is what? Zero?

"And I think the biggest point you made was nobody knows, right? But you're right, the regime over there does not care about its people. But at a certain point in time, they run out of resources, right? Their leaders are being killed. Their missiles are dwindling. Their ability to wage military operations are dwingling. They bomb their friends and allies, at least the ones that they do business, against their enemies. And China really hasn't weighed in any strong public show of support for them. So at a certain point, the scales tip to Iran doesn't have any place to go here."

All right, but again, they can, as the Third Reich did, hold out for a while, wreaking havoc on the entire world's economy, because everybody's going to pay more, and a lot of people don't have any money.

"They can, and that's where our European allies should really be stepping up, because they're the ones that are taking the first and foremost hit from Iran right now. But look, Iran, if they could hold out to the end of President Donald Trump's administration, that would be their play here. I don't know if they have the resources to do that, but they know that this president, unlike any other president in 47 years, is the one that has taken the wartime opposition to Iran and has stood strong. He's very different. Trump is very different from any other president. So, if Iran, the regime, could hold out to the end of his White House term, then they might have a chance. But that's a long time away right now."

Now, my analysis of the Pope, that they are... They're in two different businesses and they're not going to, there's no connection, although I think I could make one, but right now it's Trump sees the pope as a detriment to this, and the pope sees Trump as a warmonger. Do you expect that to change?

"No, I don't. But look, these two entities don't have to be working at cross purposes, right? Because America was founded on an ideal of fighting for religious freedom, and we had the black robe regiment, right? We had the pastors that would preach in church and then take their robes off and go out in the field and fight alongside the colonists, and you know, the pope doesn't have to choose between faith and biblical principles and supporting a war. There is plenty of opportunity for the Pope to weigh in on the evil of the regime, while still calling for peace. Those two things don't have to be..."

But I haven't heard him weigh in on the evil of the Iranian regime, have you?

"No, I haven't. And that's problematic. That's why I think Donald Trump is quite right in criticizing the Pope's actions here."

What about using a picture of him as Jesus? And Trump didn't do it, but he forwarded it out there. It's pulled now, but when I saw that, I went that's not helping anything.

"That's more than not helping. It's really offensive. I'm a Christian, I was offended, and I'm still a supporter of Trump. And I had actually just penned a piece for the Washington Times criticizing Trump over that when he pulled it from social media. So I'm not sure if I'll still run it or not. But look, the evangelical community loves Donald Trump, and they support Donald Trump, but they don't, you know, there are certain, there are certain lines you don't cross, and putting out a picture of yourself sort of looking like Jesus. That's a line crossed."

Yeah, it was more than sort of, Cheryl. And again, he didn't do it, but he forwarded it out there. And it just, it just seems like this isn't the time for any kind of levity at all. All right. Summing up this thing, I see a glimmer on this Hormuz- Pentagon, because the Pentagon, obviously, is running this thing, strategy. But I think the mullahs would take their whole 93 million people down with them. And that, boy oh boy, that's a tough one.

"And you know, the problem here are the members of the media and our so-called European allies, so that they are really... They're almost working on the side of the regime more than they are on the side of freedom, more than the side even of the Iranian people. And if the media would start helping and reporting the truths here, and our European allies would actually do something aside from working against America and Israel, then perhaps it wouldn't have to come to that point that you just described, where all the people of Iran are subjected to the brutality of this regime."

Do you know what the group think is in NATO, why they're not helping? Do you have any idea?

"Well, you know, you did reference their dislike of Israel and their dislike of Trump. And I honestly can't think of any bigger reason than that."

Yeah, I think that's what it is. All right, Cheryl, thanks very much for helping us out as always, we really appreciate it. Thank you. Smart life, so here's where it comes home to us and, you know, look, the midterms, they're coming up. And people go, well, if Donald Trump loses one or both houses, and that certainly may happen, then he's done, but he's not really done because he has veto power and he's got executive action, EO power. And so he's not going to go away or be locked in the White House, not being able to do anything. However, there will be a power shift, and all kinds of crazy things will happen to take up the president's time. And the mullahs know exactly when the midterms are. So here are the grim stats. Groceries 16-item basket of groceries, and this is according to Yahoo Finance, that's, we'll source it there, are 43% higher than they were in April, 2019. Okay, so that's seven years, all right, but still, 43% on groceries. Coffee has more than doubled. Ground beef is up to $6.70 a pound in 2020. Six years ago, it was $3.87 a pound. And that's because the ranchers in the West, many of them, have not expanded their herds. They're exactly contracting their herds. So the price goes up, and they get rich. That's a very under-reported story. Egg prices are down a little, but still more than they were in March, 2019. And potato chips, okay, cost a bag, cost $7 more than they did before COVID. I don't eat that stuff anyway, but you might.

Housing, median rent is up 41% in seven years. That's a big jump. Housing payments all combined, insurance, maintenance, everything to run your house up 72% in six years. That's the colossal move. Insurance, the big one there. Electricity is up 40%, utilities up 66%, and then you got the vehicles, they're up across the board, and it's just a mess. And Americans are gonna blame the power, the party in power, whether they don't know, that's what they're gonna do. A lot of people don't even know what the Iranian thing is all about. We think because we are news consumers, you wouldn't be here unless you weren't, we think everybody knows what we know. They don't. All they know is they're going in, and they're paying more for everything. All right. Smart life. And the only anecdote is just to buy smart, okay? So there are sales. I see them every day. And then if something is attractive, I'll go to wherever and stock up. That's all you can do.

All right, politics in California. This guy, Eric Swalwell, terrible person, 45 years old. He's accused of sexual assault by a number of women, being investigated in Manhattan by the DA, Alvin Bragg. He's done. He's finished. And he'll have to resign his seat in Congress. He was running for governor. He was the favorite on the Democratic side. He's out. So what's gonna happen in California? Looks like there are a number of other Democrats running. Xavier Becerra, he was the former health and human services press secretary, not press, secretary under Biden. You've got former mayor of LA, you've got a rich billionaire Tom Steyer, Katie Porter, kind of a crazy woman. Anyway, there they are. And then on the Republican side, you have Chad Bianco. He's a Republican, Riverside County Sheriff. And you got the former TV guy for Fox, Steve Hilton, who's been endorsed by President Trump. Democrats will probably still win that. It's California, of all places, but Swalwell, he would have won had this not happened. June 2nd is the California primary. Okay, and then we come to a terrible story. Al Sharpton, a big race hustler, he makes money dividing blacks and whites. We've been doing it for decades. I know him very well, and he's a money guy. Money, money, money, money, money. So, it's our 250th anniversary as a country. And Sharpton's not gonna participate. Go.

"They're gonna celebrate the 250th anniversary of the country July 4th, but that's not our celebration. We were, we were slaves then. And they celebrate signing the Declaration of Independence in 1776. We were not even emancipated until 1863. So I don't know what everybody is getting ready for a celebration. You know that it seems crazy for me to have on the birthday hat at your birthday party. That ain't my party."

Yeah, okay. So, you know, what are you doing here, Al? I mean, you hate the country, but you go to the Bahamas or something. I mean, it's ridiculous. I mean, most African Americans are smart enough to know about the history that they've had to endure. I write about it in Confronting Evil. Doesn't mean we're not one country. And why are you doing this? You're doing it for money. The term is race hustler, race hustling. Nice, right? Cuba caught a big break. So Cuba was on the edge of having to do what Venezuela did, remove their government and have the United States call the shots. That was before the mullahs in Iran. So we can't do both. And so now, the Cuban government, and 89% of the Cuban people are impoverished. Let's keep that in mind. So the leader, dictator of Cuba, Miguel Diaz-Canel, says this. Go.

"I don't think there would be any justification for the United States to launch a military aggression against Cuba or for the U.S. to undertake a surgical operation or the kidnapping of a president. If that happens, there'll be fighting and there'll be a struggle. And we will defend ourselves. And if we need to die, we'll die because, as our national anthem says, dying for the homeland is to live."

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't you just give your people a break, okay? Communism, huh? This day in history, April 13th, 1743, Thomas Jefferson is born in Virginia. Jefferson did not fight in the Revolutionary War. Okay, he was a diplomat in France, trying to convince the French to help us out. He was born in Shadwell county in the Virginia colony. He was born into wealth. They called it the planters and terrible with money. We could never make any money, Jefferson. He and James Madison, as you know, forged the Constitution. Madison was a little more micro than Jefferson was kind of flighty. We write about him extensively in Killing England. He was eccentric, he was kind of a guy who was all over the place, and but brilliant. But, so here's a fun fact that in the election of 1800, you can remember Washington served two terms, then his vice president Adams served one, then Adams ran against Jefferson, Jefferson won. Adams was so mad that he left DC at 4 a.m. to go back to Massachusetts, didn't show up for Jefferson's inaugural. They became friends later on again, but so Jefferson had a book, sixty five hundred volumes, that's more than I have. Sold it to the Library of Congress because he was broke. He was an architect, an agriculturalist, a paleontologist, that's fossils, okay, and he has a mammoth, it's a giant elephant, named after him. I think at the University of Virginia. And he was a musician. He was a violin player, Jefferson. And he entertained his wife, Martha, by playing the violin. Okay, so Thomas Jefferson's birthday is today. Lively mail segment. We'll be back with it in a moment.

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Jeff Mills, Daytona Beach. "Bill, I too, am a simple man. I support what President Trump is doing in Iran. If he finished a job, it's worth it. However, if that regime retains uranium, it will be a failure." I would agree with that assessment. I would agree with that, can't let them have uranium.

George. "Given the alternatives, I believe the IAEA," that is the nuclear agency based in Austria, "anyone who trusts anything Iran says is a moron. It's mandatory to remove Iran's nuclear enrichment capability and the control of Hormuz. If we do not, they'll continue to menace the free world." I think all of that is accurate. But remember your compatriots, many of them in America, have no blanking idea what this is all about.

Lena Akers, Reno, Nevada. "Hey, Bill, my question is regarding Iran. President Trump said all military goals have been achieved. I was under the impression that our target was to destroy their ability to make nuclear bombs, not opening Hormuz. There have been no expressions or reports of many underground facilities." Well, that's the problem. They won't let anybody in the look. That problem could be solved in a minute. Yeah, you can come in every two months and see what we're doing. As far as Hormuz, this is a new strategy.

Richard, Concierge member. Richard has direct access to me. You should check out Concierge and Premium membership; it will enhance your life. Richard says, "A little skeptical, not that Iran is close to developing a nuke, I'm skeptical that we have eliminated their ability to do so. I am sure that by the recent military action and the bombings in June, they have had an impact. But after all the destruction, do we really know what that impact is?" No, we don't. Because the uranium is buried deep under mountains. I mean, that's the problem.

Jason DeSalvo, Congers, New York. "Hey Bill, I've been watching you since your first day on Fox. I've been a Premium Member since the start. Lately, it seems like you're less willing to criticize the president and more inclined to defend his actions. It's a noticeable shift from how you used to approach things." I'm not going to Monday morning quarterback a war. That may be a shift, but it's a shift that's fair because I don't have the data. Remember, the Pentagon issues things to the commander-in-chief every day. I don't get that. You don't get it. Nobody gets it. So what am I supposed to do here? Theoretically, the big picture, I said President Trump's doing the right thing for the world and for the USA. I haven't changed on that, but I'm not going to come on here every day and say there's no nukes like other people do. That's insane. Why would I do that? So we're honest purveyors of analysis here. There's.

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Political Discourse, Comedy & Letterman

2026-04-13T13:20:00Z

The Left's Iran Problem

2026-04-13T07:35:00Z

The progressive left is in a conundrum because it opposes the Iran action, yet that nation is vile and destructive; it's hard to sympathize with the Mullahs.

So all criticism about the fracas is directed toward President Trump, who, for some of the far left, is actually worse than the Iranian killers.

Mr. Trump cannot back off from the hostilities, as he would immediately be branded a failed leader. He has to play it out with the defiant Mullahs, and that will cause economic pain, something many Americans are loath to accept.

As I said at the beginning of the conflict, this is the President’s biggest gamble as the midterms loom.

As a loyal American, I want to see Iran defeated, its reign of terror destroyed. I’d feel that way under Joe Biden or any president, for that matter.

I understand the price that has to be paid for that. Doing the right thing in matters like this is never easy.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

Disruption

2026-04-12T07:13:00Z

If the world were truly sane, every country would back the action against Iran. But they don’t, and 60 percent of Americans don’t either, according to polling. Therefore, the evil-doers in Tehran gain a big advantage. Many folks don’t care what they do.

There is heavy evidence that the Mullahs continue to work on a nuclear weapon. If they succeed, the entire planet could be in peril. However, many nations do not acknowledge the danger of weaponized radiation. They look away.

But why?

The International Atomic Energy Agency believes Iran is aggressively enriching uranium. The American and Israeli intelligence apparatus concurs. But Melanie down the street does not believe because she doesn’t want to. All this conflict has disrupted Melanie’s life. It has to go away. So annoying.

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Yes, there are some good reasons to be skeptical. Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction ruse, President Trump’s exaggerations, and Israel’s suffering from Iran’s aggression. So, dissent is not completely out of context.

But not believing the worst of the Mullahs is foolish and irresponsible, especially in the face of hard evidence. Their evil has been demonstrated again and again.

President Trump’s approval numbers are diving, so the Iran action is actually hurting him. Why, then, would he contrive a political debacle? It makes no sense.

The Pope simply wants peace. His entire analysis is based on that. NATO is weak and afraid of the terrorists.

But back to Melanie, who probably doesn’t follow current events that closely. She opposes neutralizing Iran because it means she has to pay more for stuff. And because she doesn’t much like Trump. She is tired of the whole disruption. Melanie wants normalcy, not confusing geopolitics.

As No Doubt once sang: “It’s my life, don’t you forget.”

Finally, I could be wrong about Iran enriching uranium. It’s possible they are bluffing. But not probable. The evidence at hand indicates a hateful regime with blackmail and murder on its mind, as well as nukes underground.

I surely don’t want to believe that because human suffering highlights the Iranian conflict. Thousands have already been killed. But unless evidence surfaces that contradicts the intelligence services, I have to support the colossal disruption because it is the responsible thing to do.

And I hope to convince Melanie to go down the same path.

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Highlights from O'Reilly's No Spin News

2026-04-10T22:00:00Z

Highlights from BillOReilly.com’s No Spin News. Watch the No Spin News weeknights - become a BillOReilly.com Premium Member to watch.

Iran Nuclear Concerns

2026-04-10T07:01:00Z

After my verbal shootout with Chris Cuomo on NewsNation, I have been investigating further the public stance of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). This outfit is based in Austria and is an offshoot of the UN. Its director, Rafael Grossi, is convinced Iran is close to developing a nuclear weapon.

Cuomo and millions of others are skeptical of that point of view, having lived through Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction calamity. Many also believe President Trump does not tell the truth.

But the IAEA is not a political outfit and sees danger to the world. It is not only concerned with enriched uranium but also with the possibility that an Iranian nuclear site might be bombed by the USA or Israel.

Says Mr. Gross: “The IAEA’s Incident and Emergency Center is in operation, with a dedicated team collecting information and assessing the situation while bearing in mind limitations in communications caused by the conflict.”

That sounds like the IAEA is on the case.

Finally, why would an international outfit raise the alarm if serious doubt existed? Why create urgency?

Skepticism can be smart. But in this case, creating a fiction regarding Iranian nukes makes no sense at all. It certainly isn’t helping President Trump.

Think about it.

Howie Mandel is our We’ll Do It LIVE! guest this weekend. Compelling interview.

The Shame of the Left, Hoping for Failure

2026-04-10T07:00:00Z

The Afternoon Dispatch is written by BillOReilly.com staff.

Imagine hating Donald Trump so much that you root against your own country. We no longer need to imagine; we see evidence every single day among many Democrats and their comrades in the anti-Trump media.

The latest examples were on full display when the president agreed to a two-week ceasefire with Iran. Just minutes after the deal was announced, MS NOW’s Symone Sanders, without batting a massive eyelash, declared this: ‘Donald Trump just caved, backing down from his fake deadline.’ Sanders is a former aide to Bernie Sanders, so she fits right in with the network’s stable of crazies. Over on CNN, Erin Burnett accused the president of chickening out. And even before the ceasefire, CBS’s Margaret Brennan was exceedingly tough on guests from the administration, while treating Iran’s foreign minister with kid gloves. The airwaves are overflowing with hosts and pundits who seem to revel in what they consider bad news for the president. And, like turning water into wine, they can miraculously transform anything into bad news. They blame Trump when oil prices rise, and the stock market falls; they blame Trump when the inverse occurs.

Turning to politics, here’s a riddle: What is the shortest length of time known to mankind? It’s the time that elapsed between the ceasefire and the cavalcade of Democrats complaining on friendly media outlets. You know them by now – Murphy, Auchincloss, Van Hollen, Tlaib, et al. Most warned (hoped??) that Iran would win the war, then bellyached because the ceasefire is a ‘bad deal.’ Does anyone doubt that many Democrats wake up every morning hoping to read bad news about the USA war effort? And does anyone doubt that, while they mouthed the right words after the miraculous Easter rescue of a downed airman, they were not pleased with that American military success?

These are very serious accusations, and nothing like this has happened before, at least when a war is barely a month old. Some radicals actively rooted for a US defeat in Vietnam, but that came after years of fighting. Jane Fonda’s traitorous visit to North Vietnam, where she proudly posed with an anti-aircraft gun, was in 1972, seven years after LBJ’s escalation. Some prominent Democratic Senators, most notably Robert F. Kennedy and George McGovern, opposed that war, but no one in Congress was actively cheering on our enemies.

To see how this is all playing out in Democratic politics, just look north to Massachusetts. Senator Ed Markey, who has been in DC since the Carter era, will soon turn 80 and is desperately trying to cling to his seat. ‘Donald Trump has surrendered, not the Iranians,’ he pronounced. The elderly senator is being challenged from the left by perpetually scowling Congressman Seth Moulton, who calls the president ‘incredibly senile’ and ‘clearly off his rocker.’ Both men obviously feel that the path to victory is paved with vitriol against the president, not against the terrorists running Iran.

This chapter was summed up nicely by long-time journalist John Fund, who put it this way: ‘This is the first war that I have ever experienced, or frankly have read about, in which the American news media is quietly and behind-the-scenes wishing for the war to go badly, largely because of antipathy towards President Trump.’ That's hard to dispute. Psychologists are actively studying the malady we all know as ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome,’ which causes otherwise sane people to act bizarrely. There can be no better example than this current moment in time, when even love of country is eclipsed by an all-consuming loathing of one man in the White House. 'Shameful' doesn't even begin to describe it.

The views expressed in the Afternoon Dispatch are those of BillOReilly.com staff.

Bill O'Reilly Takes on Those Who Would Rather Side With Iran Over President Trump

2026-04-09T17:39:00Z

Bill O'Reilly takes on those who are more sympathetic to Iran than President Trump.

O'Reilly & Sid Rosenberg on Bill's Dustup with Chris Cuomo, Iran

2026-04-09T17:10:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Sid Rosenberg and recaps his Wednesday night verbal brawl with Chris Cuomo on NewsNation. Bill also evaluates the current state of the ceasefire with Iran and the likelihood that it will hold.

Leland Vittert Weighs in on the President's Iran Strategy

2026-04-09T16:24:00Z

Leland Vittert, NewsNation host and author of Born Lucky, joins the No Spin News to weigh in on U.S.–Iran talks, Trump’s approach, and whether the U.S. is powerless in this situation.

Did Trump Win or Lose to Iran?

2026-04-09T16:21:00Z

Bill gives the latest on the U.S.–Iran ceasefire, including that negotiation talks are set to begin Saturday morning.

O'Reilly & Cuomo BATTLE Over Iran Nukes

2026-04-09T16:18:00Z

Bill joins Chris Cuomo on NewsNation where the duo gets feisty over Iran and whether or not there is a nuclear threat.

O'Reilly & Hannity on Trump's Thinking

2026-04-09T16:15:00Z

Bill and Sean Hannity, both of whom know Donald Trump personally, agree that there is a method behind the president’s apparent madness. They also slam the Trump-haters who can’t find a single good thing to say about the ceasefire.

Killing Time

2026-04-09T16:00:00Z

We'll Do It LIVE! - Howie Mandel

2026-04-09T16:00:00Z

Comedian, actor, and podcaster Howie Mandel joins Bill O’Reilly to discuss comedy, show business, the state of late-night television, and dealing with politics. Bill also talks about a run-in with Chelsea Handler, and Howie talks about coming to the United States from Canada.

Killing Time with Howie Mandel

2026-04-09T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY Okay, so we're in our Killing Time segment today and I have three more questions for Howie Mandel who's been very generous with his time. When you made it, okay, because you were a regular guy as he told us, you were raised in lower middle class status, as was I. And when it all started to come rolling in, the money and the fame, satisfaction, to some degree, that you were succeeded. Did you think about it in the moment? Hey, I'm making it now. Did that occur to you?

MANDEL This year, turning 70, is the first time in my entire life that I sit in places where I am doing things I'm doing and reflecting like, wow, this is great. And also reflecting on the fact that in the moments past, which were also great, I was so entwined in fear, nervousness and just not enjoying the moment. And I think that's mistake that we all make in life, of not enjoying a moment, because everything could end. Like even when I got a series, every day, I thought I was going to be fired when I was on St. Elsewhere. I thought they were all actors I'm not an actor, they're gonna fire me. I did a scene today, I'd go home every night ,and tell my wife I did a scene today and I don't think anybody liked it because they just said cut, nobody said that was great. And I would go do concerts and I'd be in a room filled with thousands of people who were laughing, but I was focused on the three people in row three that were just not getting it. Or this is gonna end or, you know, I'm replaceable. And it was always and that's why I invested and I have this building and stuff because that came out of fear of going, I can't just rely on somebody calling me and saying, will you come do a show? But even that, you know, the market could crash and I ensure the building like I always worry. Worry was a driving force. And worry about this moment could end and I need these moments, and then also being aware, you know, when I first started in television, you know, you do The Tonight Show. I would do the Johnny Carson show, and the next day I would be mobbed in the street, but a week later I wouldn't. So, I was always aware of how fleeting, you know, recognition or being top of mind and especially now, where people have you know 600 stations on linear television, let alone all this on the web and playing games and all this, the fact that somebody even knows me. And when I walk out in the street and they go, Hey Howie, loved AGT or loved that, I am so bowled over. So, not until my late sixties and now do I realize, Hey, I did something. This is pretty cool.

O'REILLY Was there a moment that that dawned on you or was it just an evolutionary thing?

MANDEL It wouldn't be one moment. And I'm sorry it wasn't. I'm sorry I didn't...Cause I think of those moments like getting a chance to do the tonight show was an amazing, but it was... Terror overtook everything else. And then my biggest memory and emotion was terror, but even how will they ever call me back again? Doing, I did a young comedian special. That was the thing that first launched me like into the ability to sell tickets on my own. And on the young comedian's special, It was me, Richard Lewis, Jerry Seinfeld, and Harry Anderson, and it was hosted by the Smothers Brothers. And that thing came out on HBO. I didn't even know what HBO really was. I was still living in Canada. And then the next week, I could sell 10,000 tickets. I sold out two shows at the Radio City Music Hall in a few minutes in one night. I remember, and this is just to give you the mindset, I've talked about this before, I did two shows of Radio City music hall and they were sold out. And at the end of the first show, I went up to my dressing room and I looked out on, what do I look out on for my dressing, 7th Avenue? I looked at on, I think 7th Ave. So I looked down on 7th Avenue and 7,000 people are teaming out into the streets of Manhattan and there's cops out there and there are stanchions. As 7,000 people are trying to come in, there's like this quagmire in the middle of the busiest city in the world. And my wife looks out and she goes, what are you thinking? All these people are for you. And I said, Well, I'm thinking there's 14,000 people out there. I'm thinking that there's 20 million people in the city and 19 million and 86,000 people...

O'REILLY Didn't show up to see me. Your wife must be a saint.

MANDEL I owe her everything, you know, like even for me to get diagnosed with OCD, that was based on an ultimatum. You know, she goes, I just can't take this anymore. You know, I was making everybody, I built this second house in our backyard so that if the kid coughed, I went and lived in there. I would make them, I wiped down everything, wouldn't let them touch anything. I mean, I was tortured, but I tortured everybody around me. And she said, either you go get help, you go find it. I come from the same era as you, you now, I wouldn't go get help. I don't get even the word mental, mental, you know, I'm not going to go if I go to a psychiatrist, they're just going to lock me up and give me a lobotomy. It was like one flew over the cuckoo's net. But she said I'm either out or you go get help and it's the best thing I ever did.

O'REILLY Well, you're an honest man, and that is, to me, those are the kind of people that I want to talk to. And, you know, there aren't that many, particularly in showbiz, because everybody's putting on a performance, as you pointed out earlier. They're trying to sell something or be something that they're not. But you are one of the most genuine guys, and that's why I went to see you as a stand-up. I'll never forget that night. And I just said, the guy just makes me laugh. I can't tell you a specific line or just he's out there, he's genuine, he sees the world a little bit like I do, that it's just a nuthouse, and he just makes fun of it.

MANDEL I'm just silly and I'm trying to escape. You know, people come and they come and see me. Go check out HowieMandel.com. I'm touring now. But it's just to escape, you know, life is hard. The world is hard.

O'REILLY Sure.

MANDEL And you know, I just, in my own little world, I just try to bring a little bit of levity. You know, it's a little escape. Come for a couple of hours and escape. I don't talk about really issues at all. And I'm just having fun. And for me, it's my panacea. And hopefully I can spin... I could be your...

O'REILLY We will catch up with you on the road, of course. And thank you very much, Howie, for talking with us today.

MANDEL Thanks, buddy. You're the best. Stay healthy. Bye-bye.

Ceasefire & Trump's Strategy

2026-04-09T16:00:00Z

We'll Do It Live! - Howie Mandel

2026-04-09T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to another edition of We'll Do It Live. And I just want to remind everybody that I did not want to do this podcast or long form, whatever you want to call it, because it's basically the title of it, We'll Do It Live, mocks me. So every week I have to mock myself, and I'm going, why am I doing this? So if you don't know what We'll Do It Live is, just Google O'Reilly and we'll do it live, and it will pop up. Now I don't recommend you do that, okay? You'd probably be a better person if you don't do it. But that is what this is named. We're very pleased to have the very talented Howie Mandel coming to us from his lair in Los Angeles, California, where I was a few months ago doing his podcast. So, Howie, he decided to return the favor. Now, you know...

MANDEL I'm a huge fan of yours, Bill, and number one, I'm already enjoying your mechanics of not getting anybody to look up We'll Do It Live.

O'REILLY Right.

MANDEL Which it was part of, it's the closing of the podcast you did with me. I know. It's epic. You can't miss it. It's, and I love the fact that you celebrate that moment, which is probably in the moment, not one of your defining moments.

O'REILLY But I don't know if celebrate is the right word. It was like my younger staff said we have to do this, but I want to alert everybody that the podcast is going to go downhill from here. So the high point has been reached in the intro, and now we're going to descend into.

MANDEL What a gracious host you are. I've just joined you, and now you're touting the fact that this is going downhill.

O'REILLY Yeah, it's going to be a disaster. So I want to tell people two things about you. The first thing is that Mandel makes me laugh. And I'm not exactly a hysterical guy, right? But there's something about him that makes me laugh. I paid good money to see Howie Mandel at the Westbury Music Fair in my hometown. And I dragged along a date, and I said to her, look, she goes, what is this, a talent show or something? I said, no, no. This guy is just, he just gets it, and it's true. And then, how it was nice enough to allow me in the dressing room for 38 seconds, he had a stopwatch, and we just commiserated there. And then when I went on Mandel's podcast, I was surprised a bit, because a very successful podcast, Howie Mandel Does Stuff. And people don't know this, but you spent tens of thousands of dollars getting that title, right? Howie Mandel Does Stuff?

MANDEL I had Does Stuff. I didn't have Howie Mandel secured.

O'REILLY So his daughter is on a podcast, Jacqueline. She is a liberal woman. And I saw on a few occasions when she was questioning me, and they were all very smart questions, that she's a little disdain there.

O'REILLY Okay. But she, I think, looks upon me as millions of people around the world do, as kind of a Neanderthal. Would you see that?

MANDEL No, but I do think that she thinks that you're of a different thought than her, a different mind than her. And she loves to discuss it. And I know for a fact that she enjoyed your appearance. Does she agree with you? No. Does she want to talk to you? Yes, we are, and I shouldn't speak for her, but because she's an adult and she is a chalene liberal. But to that end, she is open to hearing from everybody. Our whole family is. And the one thing that I have taught my children, as was taught to me, is respect and just respect for everything and anybody. You cannot, you have to earn disrespect. I think we come into whatever the issue is with respect.

O'REILLY Do you see that philosophy as prevalent in the show business industry?

MANDEL Well, you know, it's very funny because people will talk about prevalence in show business. Show business is just, it's a microcosm of humanity. People who are in show business happen to be, and you are in show business, happen to be recorded and projected out there. And if you're Joe or Dave or Lisa, that works in the bank, you aren't. I find it really funny that people in, not the people in show business, but the people outside of show business, have this gravitas respect for somebody who pretended to be something. You know, it's just pretending. It's not that big a deal to pretend.

O'REILLY But there are people, and you know them, who say, look, if I say good things about Donald Trump, I'm not gonna work. I'm gonna lose jobs, and people will scorn me. I won't get invitations to the Hollywood Hills cocktail parties. So I'm going to say anything.

MANDEL I don't know that that's true as much as what's true is if you get into the...it's not somebody saying something positive about the other side, I think it's when the rhetoric has gotten beyond compliments or even something positive or negative, the rhetoric become... It's rhetoric. It's not positive or negative, it's you know, you're an idiot, you know you're a racist. It becomes name-calling, or if you are kind of framing somebody who thinks different than you in this negative frame, then they don't want to work. They don't wanna spend time with you. So I don't know that you're going to lose jobs because you're, I think there's Republicans and right-wing people doing very well in this business.

O'REILLY All right, but there is a perception out there. Now, I was in a restaurant off Melrose a few years ago, and Chelsea Handler walked in. You know her, right, Chelsea?

MANDEL Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay, lively lass, would you agree?

MANDEL That's a word that hasn't been uttered or two words that haven't been uttered since the late 50s, Bill.

O'REILLY I'm a Renaissance guy. So anyway, I'm sitting.

MANDEL You're not on a dating app, are you? Because do you look for lively lasses?

O'REILLY No, I'm just trying to set the scene. So I'm sitting there eating my tofu on a Melrose afternoon. And she walks over to the table, there were a few other people with me, and she goes, you're not allowed to be here in LA. So I said, all right, check please, you know, we'll leave immediately. But there was an edge there, that Oh, boy. And that's what I was talking about.

MANDEL You don't think she was just trying to be funny?

O'REILLY I don't know her well enough, maybe?

MANDEL I'll tell you she's a comedian and she's smart and she's outrageous and she's outspoken, and that seems on brand for her. Is she really perturbed that you are sitting eating tofu on Melrose? I doubt it. I doubt it affected her for one brief moment.

O'REILLY You just wanted to give me a hard time. Now, you were born in Toronto, Canada, and raised as a Canadian, correct?

MANDEL Yes, I am.

O'REILLY Did you have skates on when you were four, and you were with the little hockey stick? Did you do that? I mean, were you doing that?

MANDEL No, we were, I was at a young age, I was sent out in the forest to retrieve maple syrup from the trees. That's what they do with their children, the youngen. The youngens are sent to work, and I had to draw sap, maple sap from the maple tree.

O'REILLY In Southern Canada, there's a lot of funny people. Ackroyd comes out of there, Lorne Michaels comes out there, a bunch of the SNL people, you, and all of this. So is it just the region that produces this humor? Or are you just so happy you don't live in Nova Scotia that you're making jokes all the time?

MANDEL Now you're making fun of the country. I will tell you that it is even fascinating to me that so many people that I am fans of in front of and behind the camera come from Canada. Per capita, we probably have the highest rate of talent, whether that is even in music, from Celine Dion to Drake to so many others to film directors, Norman Jewison, writers and comedians, and just producers like Lorne Michaels. For such a, you know, we have a 10th the population of all of America. You guys have 300, we have, I live here, 330 million people. We have 30 million people, and most of that population is in like three little ponds of population, and that would be Southern Ontario, like Toronto, in Quebec, around Montreal, and then on the West coast around Vancouver. And so many, that's where Michael Bublé comes from, so much talent in such a small area is, there must be something in our water. I don't know what it is.

O'REILLY When you look back, the contrast of your upbringing to your daughter's upbringing in L.A. must be, it's two different worlds, right?

MANDEL And I say to my wife, and I, my wife's also from Toronto. I've been married for 46 years to the same woman, and my world, her world, I'm talking about my daughter's world, my son's world, and my other daughter, I have three children, is so vastly different. Well, first of all, when we first moved here, and I don't know if it's LA as much as it's America, this was somewhat of a culture shock. You know, just the American way is a very different culture. And it was a culture that I adhered to, that I love. It's that go-get-it kind of, you know, Canada is a beautiful place to live and a beautiful, safe, wonderful giving environment. And here it is like... It feels like, and there's nothing wrong with this. And that's what I liked about it. And this is what I got my career about. But it is every man for themselves. You know, and it's that go-get-it attitude, and you can have a dream and make that dream come true. That's what AGT is about. And I did, you know, everything I've ever been punished for, expelled for, gotten in trouble for is what I seem to get paid for. And I turned what was considered a, you know, a behavioral problem into my own little industry. So, but my kids, you know, they went to public school. And both my wife and I, we come from, you know, I grew up in an apartment and shared a room with my brother. They didn't, they were lower middle class, and I've tried to instill into my kids the importance and the gratitude of hard work and respect, and they've all done that. You know, I told you, the daughter that you met spent every day driving out to, you know, Crenshaw and Watts and East LA, which are really kind of underserved areas in LA, and she taught and was in those schools where there was violence and corruption and, you know, so that they did that. My son, who actually runs my company, and not because I gave him a job, it's not nepotism, it's more nepotism that he hired me. He does one, I'm one of maybe 30 different podcasts that he produces that have nothing to do with me, and he built this building that you see. He was a YouTuber and made a fortune by himself as a YouTuber as a kid, and then realized he kind of gleaned that entrepreneurial spirit that I have. I'm much more entrepreneurial than I am creative. And my other daughter, who doesn't ever want to be on camera, doesn't even want her picture taken. It was hard to talk her into being in her wedding album, is a physiotherapist. So I think they see things that I never got to see in Toronto as a kid. I mean, they're obviously much more privileged, and we get to do things. And I feel like nobody's more excited and feels surprised and blessed by what this has afforded me to do for me and my family, but they all earn their own livings. They work very hard. They invest their money. They have their own little, they'll buy a property and then rent it out and build their own little world. And I'm very proud of them. And they don't act like anything is coming to them. But I am vastly aware that this is not the world that I grew up in.

O'REILLY That's for sure, but I'm giving all the credit to your wife for the kids turning out well. So I'm going to Mandel's studio in a place called Van Nuys, which is north of L.A., and we had never been to the studio before, and we walk into the studio, and it's very elaborate. So your son has done a very good job with it. But there's actually a band in this studio of human beings, five or six of them. And they write a song while the guest, which was me, was talking to Mandel. And then after the party is over, they sing the song. It was great.

MANDEL I, during COVID, and you know, I've been very open about my mental health and OCD and my germaphobia, but, and, and I'm not crying a river, but the OCD was really hard for me. I almost went overboard. And one of my little panaceas was I was on TikTok and listening to live streams. And I heard this Sonny and the Black Pack. They would play, he's got a beautiful voice, and they're great. And they would live-stream for hours. And I DM them, and I just said to them, Hey, listen, I'm a huge fan. I'm a huge fan. Where are you? That turned out to be in Northern California. They were in San Francisco. And I said, if you ever think of coming to LA and you need a space, you know, I have space here. You know, I'm based in a warehouse. I spend my day in a warehouse, that's where I am right now, and you could, you know, whatever you're doing, you could do it from here. And maybe because you're in LA, there are connections you could make and people you can do content, you know? You'll meet Bill O'Reilly, you can sing a song about him, and they moved down. And now Sonny and the Black Pack are my house band.

O'REILLY It's unique, I've never seen it before, it was very, very impressive. Now on linear TV, that requires a different discipline than social media and the podcast world. So you do America's Got Talent, you do Canada's Got Talent. And I went, are we talking hockey here? But it was just a wise guy remark. But a linear situation is different. Because, you know, you've got to hit the brakes, you've gotta do this, you gotta do that. The shows that you do, are they fun to do, or is it going to work?

MANDEL Well, listen, it...Nobody's more thrilled, and excited, and blown away by the fact that I'm invited to the party. This is even fun, sitting and talking to you. You're somebody that I watch, that I fanboyed on, and then I get to sit and talk to you, and you're interested in asking me a question, it's amazing. So everything I do, I have joy for. My most exciting thing that is not work and that nothing stands in the way is stand-up comedy. I love stand-up comedy, and I still tour. I'm doing, I do... Well, three times a week I drop in at the comedy store, the laugh factory or the improv and any given night, Chappelle and Leno and everybody who's anybody is up there, Sebastian and we just write and there now in the clubs, they lock away your phones so they can't be recorded and they can be repeat and that's the fun. But linear television is ad-supported television. And I also know that I have the responsibility to be responsible because there are people like Ward and McDonough and all these people supporting it.

O'REILLY How do you, when you say you love stand-up, many, many stand-up comics are dark people. You know that, I'm sure. I mean, they're funny, and they have unbelievable wit and talent, but off camera, they are kind of morose, and it's not an easy industry. It isn't, because you've got to make these people react to you. So number one, do you write everything down when it comes into your mind that that's pretty funny, an observation, do you write it down? Or is it just stream of consciousness?

MANDEL I will write down, during the day, I write down if there's something that I think is a tidbit that I can expound upon. I don't write word-for-word. I'm not as disciplined as Jerry Seinfeld, who is a wordsmith and brilliant at it. I just have an idea, and then in front of the audience I will go, like tonight, I'll be at the improv and the comedy store. And so I'll go and try something that I wrote down and I didn't write the jokes, I just wrote down there's a funny area, and I'll do it there, and then I'll drive over to the comedy store at the improv, and then drive over to the comedy store, and I'll do it again there, and then, tomorrow night I'll do it again. And then you can hone these moments, and then maybe create a piece. I watched the most seminal moment I had in learning or being inspired by this was when I moved out here in '78, I watched Richard Pryor every night go on stage at the Comedy Store and hone together live on the Sunset Strip. And he was a guy who showed up every night. And it was brilliant to watch. And I don't think some of the biggest comics today, you would even know if it wasn't for him. He was the first kind of symbol of authenticity. And you talk about all these people being dark and morose. You know, I have a hard time with my mental health. I have really good light, but I have a hard time. But you know that comedy for me, and I believe, you know, having a sense of humor is not the ability to tell a joke or to laugh at a joke. A sense of humor is to find that sensibility in the darkest place. All comedy comes from darkness, all of it. If you laugh at a clown falling down at the circus, what are you laughing at? You're laughing at a stranger's misfortune. If you're telling a joke and two guys walk into a bar, it's not a joke unless something embarrassing, awkward, or horrible happens to one of them. That's the joke. That's what a joke is. And if you look at the two masks of theater, comedy and drama, they're very close. There's such a thin line between drama and comedy. In fact, comedy is just looking at something incredibly dramatic from another way.

O'REILLY When it doesn't go well, that's the toughest time for a comic, but you have a persona where you kind of just roll along, and you know.

MANDEL Not really. That's the persona. You see, the tough time... I've always used the analogy for me for standup. I love thrill rides. I love roller coasters. And if you look at what a roller coaster is, the higher you go, the faster you go, the closer to being dangerous or being killed, the better it is. I mean, if you like...And you just went on a little straight track that never went up or down a hill, you'd be bored. But your adrenaline is going when you're being dropped 19 stories. By the same token, in those moments when it doesn't work and your adrenaline is running and there's thousands of people who you've never met looking at you, going, well, what's happening? That adrenaline, that excitement, that ability to try and reel them back and get a laugh or get them to appreciate the moment is the joy, the thrill, and the excitement that makes me feel alive.

O'REILLY Carson was the best at it, you know, because he was even funnier when it went south. You know, he had it down.

MANDEL Yeah, he made that his thing. He would always come out and say, this is a good audience. The audience last night, you know, and he would talk about the audience. Carson was also the litmus test in my generation of being considered by the public to even be a comedian. You know, when I came out here and started and did a couple of shows, television shows, and specials, if somebody didn't recognize me in the street, they'd come up, and they'd say, what do you do? And I'd say well, I'm a stand-up comedian. The average person would go, well, have you ever been on, have you ever on Johnny? And that was their litmus test at that time. If you had been on Johnny, then even if I didn't see you, wow, you must be a professional comedian. If you didn't do Johnny, you were nothing in anybody's eyes.

O'REILLY You and I have some in common. David Letterman. So in '79, you did very well on Letterman.

MANDEL I opened for him a couple of times and you know, when I came to the comedy store, he was the MC in '78 and '77 at the comedy store. He had just moved out here from being a weatherman someplace in Indiana or Indianapolis, I don't know where he was a weatherman. So I was there like when he started, and to watch all these guys, we were all these young dreamers who were kind of mischievous little kids, who found this clubhouse where all these like-minded people, semi-like-minded people got together and had fun. It was like the wild west of, I mean, it was the comedy boom of the 80s. Actually, I did well on Letterman, but for years and years and years, in the world of comedy, the toughest crowd are fellow comedians and the meanest crowd to other comedians are comedians. And because when I started out, I used to use a lot of, I was just this hyper guy that had a ton of props. And this is before people would make fun of Carrot Top, who I think is actually brilliant and has the ability to hold an audience and his own room in Vegas all these years. And he designed, not only does he write whatever he's verbalizing, but he has to design and engineer these great little props. But I had props. This is before he even started, and I was a joke amongst the comedians. You know, people loved brilliant wordsmiths like your friend Dennis Miller and other people, monologists. And part of Letterman's top 10 list, sometimes I was mentioned as the joke. They'd go, and we'll make them go to a Howie Mandel. That hurt me because you want your fellow...

O'REILLY Yeah, you want that prestige from the guys. Here's what, and you can react to this, so I was on Letterman 16 times. And it was a different era. Now the late night won't book anybody that doesn't hate Trump. So if you want to be on late-night television, you've got to hate Trump, and we've documented that here, and it's really too bad, but that's how it's descended. When I was in Letterman, he's not like Leno. Leno would come into the dressing room, he'd give you a little basket of fruit, a sweatshirt, you know, whatever it may be. And it was lighter. Letterman was a Prince of Darkness figure. Studio was 14 below zero. You had to wear earmuffs to go on there. He didn't visit anybody before the show. It was where's Dave, you know. The crew is a little, you know, you don't want to try. I like that because I'm a dark person.

MANDEL I like, I love Letterman. I love the show, and I love David. And I will tell you this, you know, both of them are authentically who they are. David Letterman is not a social butterfly. You know, and when you went on Letterman, you got Letterman, you got him. I think that's...Bill, I would think, I don't know you that well, but I think what people are glomming onto you. You're authentic. I don't think I'm talking to a character. When you watch Letterman, you're not talking to a character, that room was cold because there is a thought in this industry, especially when laughter is what you're kind of aiming for, that if people are hot or it's warm with all those lights, they get lethargic and you don't get the same laughs. But when you're sitting there, and you're up, and you're kind of cold, you're gonna laugh, it makes for a better audience response.

O'REILLY And he liked the environment to be cool itself. But the thing about Letterman was that a lot of people are intimidated. Guests, I've seen the biggest people go on there, and you can tell if you're in the industry, as you and I am, are, they're intimidated by Letterman. I went in there, and nobody intimidates me, ever. If you were raised by my father, nobody would ever intimidate you again. I'm in a tough Irish family.

MANDEL You don't think you have that same element? You don't think you're intimidating?

O'REILLY Sometimes.

MANDEL No, not sometimes, just by virtue of who you are and how you...you know, this character that you've projected, and I think you projected pretty authentically who you are. I've talked to you off camera, too. You are, and David Letterman, if you ever talked to him off camera, and he is who he is.

O'REILLY There's no doubt. No doubt, but what he responded to with me, because we're opposites as far as how we see the world. He's a very liberal man, and I'm a traditional man. I'm not conservative, that's a big mistake. I am traditional, but he tested me. Letterman tested me. All right. He called me a thug one time, you know, he just he's like... I would just look at him in the eye, always in the eyes, and I would go, you want to back that up? And I threw it right back at him. The more I did that, the more respect he had for me. You don't get booked 16 times on a show like Letterman, unless the guy, you know, because he doesn't care that much about ratings, he'd rather do the stupid pet tricks.

MANDEL But he'd also rather do a real conversation. He's a smart guy that wants to, yeah, you know.

O'REILLY No doubt about that, but Leno did that too, and my dynamic with John Stewart was totally different. With Stewart, it was like, okay, who's gonna outmock the other? But with Letterman, it wasn't. If I had faltered, Mandel, this is important, if I had faltered on Letterman, he would not have saved me. On my show, if you falter, I'll save you, unless I think you're the scum of the earth.

MANDEL Are you saving me right now?

O'REILLY No, you can handle me easy. But you're a pro, okay? So what Letterman was getting was he was getting a news guy, a journalist, to come on into a comedy show, essentially, and his view of life was different. Well, he was gonna test me to see if I could swim, and if I sunk, I was gonna drown. And I knew it. Leno would save you. Leno would save you if you were bombing or anything like this, leno would come on in and kind of just take it over. Carson, I didn't know. I was never on. That was before me. But of all the shows I did, Stewart and Letterman were the most stimulating for me because it was a joust. It was back and forth, it was joust.

MANDEL Because it's a real conversation, you know, Carson and Leno, and I'm not forgetting, they're great at what they do, you know, but 99.9% of the people that you book on a late-night talk show are there to promote whatever it is they're gonna promote, their movie, their TV show. You know for a fact that there's a pre-interview. So, in the pre-interview, and you have these six-minute segments, in six minutes, you have to plug your show. A producer has asked you for a really funny, interesting story, and they want to know what the outline is, so that, you know, what is your punch out? Like, what's the end of that story, so the host knows that that is what the story you're going to tell, unlike you know, I can't tell you how many times you watched Letterman and just he would pick up the card, he wouldn't even look at the card, he would rip it, he'd throw it away, and he wanted to talk. But not a lot of people can do that, you're one of few. I like doing that. There was no pre-interview with this. I didn't know what you were going to talk about. It's a real conversation, whether it's interesting or not, I don't know, but I'm enjoying just sitting down. We might as well just go out and have a sandwich and have this conversation. Letterman, there's very few people that were willing to do that, or could do that, or wanted to do that. They have to come up with a show every day. They have four guests. They were forced to watch a movie or a TV show they don't even care about, or read a book they have no interest in, and they have asked this set of questions. The publicist would... I know for a fact, I did a talk show in the 90s. I'll never forget my first guest was Jennifer Aniston. And at the time, she was dating Brad Pitt. And the publicist came to me and went, what are you going to ask? The publicist went over all the questions and said, you cannot mention Brad Pitt, you can't. And if you do, you're never going to book another one of my clients. And they ended up cutting and stopping tape because my first question is, did you ever see The River Runs Through It? Isn't that a good movie? You know, I didn't ask, I didn't mention his name, but then they went cut, and then the publicists hold all the power in the talk show business.

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O'REILLY See, I think you would be, if late-night wants to resurge, they should hire you. And because you're curious about stuff. That to me, you gotta be funny, and you've gotta have talent. And you've gotta be relaxed out there, and you've gotta be able to relate to the people watching you. But it's the curiosity that really makes the talk show.

MANDEL I think the reason people, the reason at our age, we're still, you know, I don't know if people come up to you and go, why don't you retire? You know?

O'REILLY No, all the time. They demand it. They don't ask, they demand I retire. And they say, we'll do a GoFundMe if you retire. I mean...

MANDEL But the truth of the matter is, what drives me is curiosity. Curiosity is our fuel when we're very young. When we're young, and we're kids, we listen to everything on the radio, read every paper, looked at every magazine to see how people are dressing, what they're listening to, what albums I should buy, what shoes I should wear, how I should dress so I look like everybody at school. At about 40 years old, that gets tiring because life is about research. I can't, most people. And most people will settle into their look, their style, and their music. And then a young person will come to you and go, listen to this song. And then you go, oh, you think that was a good song? Wait till you hear it, real music. Here's real music, but they're not engaged in that. And what I realized, later on, was my son showed me something from YouTube. This is about 20 years ago. And I saw that this YouTube video had 100 million clicks. And the number 100 million was so out of whatever I could have. I mean, this thing from TV and movies was the Super Bowl, which gets 60 million. I said, where's the 100 million? And I looked at this, and I saw all the comments, and they were going, this is hysterical. This is funny. And I realized. I didn't even, not only did I not know who this person was, I didn't get it. I didn't know why they were funny. I didn't, you know, up until that point, even if you don't like, you know, opera, I know why people appreciate it. I understand it's good. I've never bought an opera album. I've never gone to the opera. This was comedy, and I didn't understand what I was listening to. And that put the fear of God in me. I started, from that point on, I realized culture moves on. And what is this culture? How do I engage these people? How do I just understand them? I don't have to entertain you. I just want to understand why you think this is funny. And from that moment on, I live, and I still go see a therapist for this. I live online. I'm aware of every platform. I have a gaming team with T-Pain. I'm on Twitch. I'm TikTok. I'm on Instagram. I'm scrolling. I'm so afraid of missing out. But the language and the way people are, you know, even what you are doing right now with me, think about this. 30 years ago, what is this? This is not a TV show. What is this?

O'REILLY Right. One of the positives of social media is that it allows the folks, I call them, to get to know people that they see in the entertainment, sports, political world, much better. And there is a tremendous hunger for that. I want to know this person better. This format allows that. I didn't want to do this podcast. I like the podcasts. I loved being on your podcast with your daughter. It was a lot of fun. I did Billy Bush when I was out there, it was good. But I didn't want to do it because I'm a hard news guy essentially. I'm a gatherer of information, and I disseminate it, and it's very successful for me. But my younger staff demanding, A, that I humiliate myself with We'll Do It Live title, and that I do this once a week with interesting people that they want to get to know. And that is what's happening here.

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O'REILLY Now, I've got a couple of other questions that are just curious to me. I've never been to a therapist. No therapist would ever accept me, even if they're getting a thousand bucks an hour, then it's not worth it. I'm not gonna do him. You say, at your age, that you still go to therapy. What does that do for you?

MANDEL Gives me and helps me cope. You know, everything in life is coping. You know you cope with everything. You cope with success. You cope with failure. You cope with relationships. You cope with...and some people, or at some point in your life, you don't have all the tools. And I just think that it should be therapy, should be part of our curriculum, without a stigma. You're saying nobody would accept you, but that's not true, and that you're just being facetious, but the truth of the matter is, I would imagine that you have...I don't know your personal life, that you've had hard times in your life. And we have no qualms about going to a dentist, even when something's not really bothering you, to go get a checkup. Look, Mom, no cavities. Go get a cleaning, get an X-ray. Why do we not...I always say that we need to take care of our mental health the way we take care of our dental health. We would be more equipped to just deal with what life throws your way.

O'REILLY But my ethos, from where I am from, and my tradition is you tough it out. And I don't really trust a lot of strangers, mercenaries, but that's my neurosis.

MANDEL But you know what? But the truth is, I don't trust a lot of people with anything that people do. You always have to be your own advocate, whether that's mental health, whether that's even your physical health, whether you've got to go in and get surgery, you should maybe get a second opinion. You should understand what they're going to do and how you're going to cope with it.

O'REILLY Okay. I get it. Your whole family, do they do the therapy thing? I don't want to pry, but I mean...

MANDEL Not everyone, but a lot, not a lot.

O'REILLY And that's from the positive results they've seen, you have from it, I would assume.

MANDEL It's not mandated by my family, but I've been so open about it that if they've needed help, they have gone.

O'REILLY Right. People don't understand that in order to, and you made a good point, in order to improve yourself, it's tough, and you've got to have courage, and you've got to confront whatever demons are there, and that's a way to do it in a positive way to do it. You're such an affable guy. Do you ever get angry?

MANDEL My resting emotion is anger and frustration, so...

O'REILLY You do get angry? How does that manifest itself?

MANDEL I will raise my voice and lose my patience and realize that I'm doing that. I don't have, so my coping skill is to stay busy and kind of direct my focus on the now because if I think about it... It's really, I'm a control freak, and maybe that's part of the OCD. But if I see somebody doing something and it doesn't look like that's the way it should be done, I insert myself where I shouldn't insert myself. And if I'm being misunderstood... You know, let's do it live. I watched you. You watch that tape, and you'll see how I assert myself.

O'REILLY Yeah, I got a little teed off at that.

MANDEL I've acted like that many times.

O'REILLY I have an excuse, I'm Irish. That's my excuse.

MANDEL I have an excuse, I'm an idiot, I am. And I always feel bad, and I spend my, you know, I do that a lot.

O'REILLY But not in public, I've never written... I've never seen a bad word written about you. I mean, I got three rooms full of bad words written about me. I've never seen a bad word written about you.

MANDEL I'm not in the arena for bad words to be written about me, but you know, like even as we speak right now, I went and did Kelly and Mark in New York, and I think it aired yesterday or the day before. If you go look at Page Six.

O'REILLY Yeah, I saw it.

MANDEL I did a joke.

O'REILLY I know. They don't care.

MANDEL They said I snapped. But I think that's kind of funny. That doesn't really bother me, and more people probably read these articles than saw the show. So they think I snapped, and I'm really sensitive about my age. I didn't snap, and I wasn't sensitive about my age. I do snap. I did not snap there, and I didn't snap on TV, and I don't snap on the stage, but being on TV or being in front of a camera or being on stage is such a small part of my life, even though I do a ton and I post a lot of things. 99% of my life is not being recorded, like you.

O'REILLY Yeah, but I'm boring, and you're not. That's the difference. And we really, really appreciate you taking the time, Howie. It's very kind of you to do it. If we can ever return the favor, you just let us know.

MANDEL Right back at you, buddy. If you ever need anything, I'm here.

O'REILLY Thank you. And now we're going to do a Killing Time segment for our Premium and Concierge Members on BillOReilly.com. So if you aren't one, and we don't charge a lot of money for this, but you get lots of perks, so you might wanna check that out.

Killing Time with Howie Mandel

2026-04-09T16:00:00Z

The conversation continues between Howie Mandel and Bill. The duo discusses making it as a professional, Howie’s wife, and escaping reality with comedy.

Iran Propaganda

2026-04-09T13:00:00Z

During World War II, the United States military censored press reports coming back from the front. That is a violation of the First Amendment, but the Roosevelt administration didn’t care, and reporters could be prosecuted for failing to submit articles.

Today, we have the total opposite. Live time coverage of the battlefield and rank enemy propaganda being reported as fact by Americans.

Examples: Iran does not “control” shipping in Hormuz. It attacks vessels with drones. That panics insurance companies, who are telling shipping operations they will not be reimbursed for any damage.

The US military could take control of the waterway any time it wants. But that would require close-quarter combat, something the American people would not support.

Lucky break for Iran.

The fact that the media actively distributes Iranian propaganda is a scandal; perhaps a low point in the history of journalism.

Very disturbing.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

Trump Extends Negotiations with Iran

2026-04-09T02:21:00Z

As we predicted, President Trump is extending negotiations with Iran for two weeks. On April 6^th, I said “Now, the president reiterated that the end of Tuesday, tomorrow, if he doesn't have some kind of deal with Iran that involves nuking, that he'll bomb their electrical grid, take them out. They won't have any communications. I believe that might be extended. The Tuesday deadline might be extended.”

As part of the deal, Iran will now open Hormuz so shipping can resume. That’s a significant victory for the USA.

The reason I can predict Mr. Trump’s actions is that I know him so well. Four weeks ago, in a late-night phone call, I spoke with him about the Mullahs. He clearly wanted a settlement rather than violence.

Going forward, I expect Iran to agree to nuke inspections, and that should be that.

Many lessons learned here. See you for the No Spin News Wednesday evening.

Troglodyte

2026-04-09T00:57:00Z

[traa·gluh·dite] a bad-mannered person with ignorant or outdated ideas.

CEASEFIRE: Did Trump Win or Lose to Iran?, Leland Vittert Weighs in on the President's Strategy & NATO's Chief at the White House

2026-04-08T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Wednesday, April 8th, 2026. Stand up for your country. The best coverage and most honest of Iran begins now. That is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. So, the latest is that the negotiations between the United States and Iran will begin Saturday morning in Pakistan. J.D. Vance, the Vice President, is going to lead our delegation there. And I have no expectations whatsoever. Obviously hoping for the best for my country, but we're dealing with really savage people here. And we may not even get there on Saturday because they may do something crazy. Remember, the Iranian leadership does not care how many of their citizens die. Doesn't care. Now we've seen regimes like that, Putin's like that. The difference is Putin cares if he dies. The mullahs apparently don't. You have heard an amazing amount of misinformation, even quoting enemy dispatches, press releases put out by the mullahs, then find their way into the American press and the Democratic Party, which spits them out. I've never seen anything like it, and it's not an exaggeration. All right, let's run it down and using the facts.

So the president is in a quandary. Okay, he has to show the American people that there is a concrete benefit by using the military against Iran, has to. Okay, the benefit would be that weapons inspectors would go in and remove the uranium, and that the Straits of Hormuz would get back to normal. I predicted on Monday that there would be an extension of negotiations. Roll the tape.

"Now, the president reiterated that the end of Tuesday, tomorrow, if he doesn't have some kind of deal with Iran that involves nukes, that he'll bomb their electrical grid, take them out, they won't have any communications. I believe that might be extended. The Tuesday deadline might be extended."

Well, how do I know that? Because I talked to the president. That's how. That's my job, to be a reporter and to get the best information possible. And I knew from the very beginning of this whole mess that Trump did not want Armageddon to be unleashed on Iran. He wanted a deal. And that continues. I also predicted that no matter what the president does, the press and the Democratic Party would vilify him. Go.

"President Trump can't win. He can't win. So if the United States were to pull back at the last minute and not bomb Iran, then he'd be surrendering. Then he'd, you know, Teflon, whatever they call him. If we do, then he's a war criminal. You see, this is the advise that the American left. Clamped down on President Trump."

So, two predictions, which is why you watch this program. One, the ceasefire would be extended, and it would not be Armageddon militarily against Iran this week. And two, that it's manufactured that Trump could not win. They call him taco now, he's a taco. Trump always backs out, or some stupid acronym. So, when you understand the game, and it is a game for these people, some of them hate Donald Trump more than the mullahs. There's no doubt in my mind. Now, I can't read minds, but just on their behavior over the years. They would rather have Trump go down than the mullahs go down. So I'm just going to run you a few sound bites. After this happened, you would think that everybody in the world, not just in the United States, would say, boy, I'm glad that the US military didn't have to go in and kill tens of thousands of civilians. That is such a good development. No. No way that is. Immediately, the sniping began on CNN. Go.

"And there will be some who will call it, you know, taco. Trump always chickens out, which is making way too light of it. But it is also a truth, which is that he makes giant threats that he does not follow through on."

"It didn't. It was the Taco Tuesday of all Taco Tuesdays as our president decided not to drop the Chalupa for at least another two weeks. He announced that at the request of Pakistan, which has been facilitating negotiations, he was giving Iran two weeks to live."

And so we're happy that that didn't happen, no. No, no, he's a taco. No, he is weak. Okay, now let's get specific. So I must have heard 30 times yesterday how Iran is controlling the Straits of Hormuz. That is a lie. They are not controlling anything. What Iran can do is fire drones at freighters. The insurance companies around the world have told the freighters, if you get hit by an Iranian drone, we're not going to cover you, okay? That's what that is. And so many freighters say we're not gonna take the chance. But Iran isn't controlling anything. In fact, if the U.S. Military wanted to regulate the Straits of Hormuz, it would take them about 24 hours to do so. But that would require close-quarter combat. And the American people don't want that. So they don't want this cliche boots on the ground, and that's what it would require. But Iran doesn't have the power to control that straight. The US can wipe them off the face of the earth down there. So that's what's in one line, okay? And then there is the nukes. Now, we don't know much about this other than Defense of War, War Secretary, Pete Hegseth says, we're getting all the nukes out. I don't use Hegseth on this broadcast because he's not an objective, all right, purveyor of information. All right, now, if the president says something, he's the president, I have to use it. But if it's an acolyte, I don't use it. I independently verify everything. Again, this is why you watch me. All right. But Hegseth did say, we're gonna do what we said we were gonna do. Hope so. Because if you don't, that would be the end of Donald Trump's presidency. You've got to get those nukes out of there. Now the stock market liked it. It was up 1,300 points at the open, oil down 18%. So the world is breathing a sigh of relief. Financial communities, okay. Doesn't really matter to me, but that's the react. That's how you gauge the react. I'm going to end with this soundbite. Because it's just so outrageous. Now remember, during World War II, if you said something like you're going to hear now, you would have been arrested and charged with treason or whatever. This is Ed Markey, a senator from Massachusetts.

"The Strait of Hormuz is now in control, is controlled by the Iranian army, that's going to turn it into a toll road that is going to raise prices around the globe. The uranium is still under the control of the Iranian Army. The people in Iran are not free. This has been a complete and total failure militarily, but it has also been a moral failure for our country.".

So, he would have been arrested by saying, oh, the Japanese are winning, Germans are winning. No, I don't mind. Because it's an ebb and it's a flow. And you don't give that kind of an assessment. To say that this is a total failure militarily, I mean, it's a staggering lie. Staggering. The United States and Israel has downgraded the capacity of Iran to wage offensive warfare and killed their entire leadership corps. I mean, you know, and Markey doesn't care because he, again, he's one of those guys that I think hates Trump more than the mullahs. Just an opinion, and that's the Memo. All right, joining us now from DC is Leland Vittert, who, listen to this title, News Nation's chief Washington anchor. Wow. So you know I'm on with Vittert every Monday on News Nation, and he has a lot of experience in the Middle East. And of course, he's watching the coverage because he's right in the middle of it. So where did I go wrong in my Talking Points Memo?

"I don't think it's what you said, Bill. I think it is what you didn't say. We don't know whether or not the Strait of Hormuz is open. The Wall Street Journal is reporting the Iranians are charging tolls in Bitcoin and in Chinese Yuan. I'm old enough to remember when sending billions of dollars to the Iranians was a bad idea, allowing them to receive massive amounts of funds, especially in cryptocurrency, is a bad idea, because we know what they're going to do with it, which is they're going to try and fund terrorists to kill Americans."

Okay, but let me stop you there, that toll is paid for by the shipping companies. That's who pays for it. Okay, so it's Iran's got its hand out, you put money in the hand, or you don't put it in the hand. They don't control anything, as I said, if...

"If I say to you, Bill, if you want to walk past me, you have to give me a million dollars, or otherwise I'm going to start firing cruise missiles at you."

Well, they don't have cruise missiles down there.

Okay. You want to call it...Okay. They have remotely piloted drones. And yes, they do have some cruise missiles, and they still have the anti-ship missiles that China gave them. This is beside the point. We don't know is the real answer because we don't know what the final deal is. You're a reporter, so am I. I don't trust what the White House says. I don't trust what Iranians say. I wait to see what happens. If the uranium comes out of Iran and into US hands, that is an enormous unmitigated walk-off grand slam home run for Donald Trump. If the Iranians are still able in a month to charge tolls to shipping companies because otherwise the companies can't get insurance for fear of being shot at by the Iranian's, then it is an unmitigated disaster for President Trump because we get the status quo, with the Iranians getting more and more money. We just don't know yet. You have to evaluate the ground truth based on an objective set of criteria."

Okay, that's fair, but these people who are saying we lost...

"They're wrong. So are the people who say we've won."

I mean, no, but it's far beyond wrong. It's subversive because they have to know the negotiation doesn't start until Saturday, all right? And why would the Iranians even bother to negotiate if they weren't getting pummeled? They wouldn't.

"Well, two ways to look at that, right? I just got recently married, so go with me for a second here. If the Iranians view Trump as needing a deal, as you said on my show, you said I don't wanna use the word desperately, but he needs a deal. If I show up at a Persian rug store and the guy selling me the rug knows that my wife told me you'd better buy a rug or you're not coming home tonight, I'm not going to get a good deal on the rug. And that is the problem right now. The Iranians view Trump as needing a deal. And to your point, they don't care if they die. They don't care if their people die. They are going to extract the highest price possible. And because they think Trump needs a deal, the price is going to be very high."

But the counter to that is, if you don't do the deal that President Trump wants, that there's going to be hell to pay. And you're right, they don't care, but they did come to the table in Pakistan.

"They've always been at the table. It's been the US, who said we don't wanna negotiate. The Iranians were saying they would negotiate 38 days ago. They were the ones crying that the negotiations weren't continuing. So the Iranian position hasn't changed, but I'll give you one more thought on this. The Trump process here shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the Iranian regime. You've said you that you can't ferment regime change. I got very excited yesterday when the US bombed Kargh Island, which is the Iranian oil export center yesterday. Because if Trump cut off the money flow into the regime the regime uses to pay everyone off and stay in power in Iran, the regime would fall apart from the inside. Bombing power plants doesn't do that. I think that President Trump has been getting some bad advice, perhaps from Pete Hegseth, about how to bring the Iranian regime to its knees. And I would look towards Israel that makes a very big separation between the Iranian people and the Iranian regime. That's something President Trump stopped doing a couple of weeks ago. I don't know why."

So you believe that if there's a choke point for the Iranians getting money from whatever source, they'll be overthrown from within, the generals will turn on them.

"Yes. And the reason I know that is because the past couple of times the Iranians have been willing to negotiate it all, albeit they've gotten sweetheart deals, has been when the regime was threatened because they were financially strangled. That is the choke point to the regime because the generals will stop getting paid off. The generals will turn and become far more open to entrees from either the United States or Israel."

But China and Russia are financing Iran to some extent. So it would be very difficult to choke that flow of assets off.

"No, not at all. And here's why, because you can choke off the ability for Iran to export its oil to China very easily. You can shut down the ability of the Chinese to get money and equipment in and material in. The Russians are broke themselves. Why do you think the Iranians got so upset when the Israelis bombed their gas facilities and their oil facilities? The Iranian regime, just think about what the mullahs care about and the IRGC cares about. They don't care about their people, power plants, or bridges. They care about staying in power. What keeps them in power? The flow of money. Where's the flow of money come from? Oil. Stop that, and you have them by whatever body part you would like to note on your show."

So then you would be in favor of the United States' next move, should the negotiation in Pakistan not bear fruition, U.S. Troops seizing Hormuz?

"Absolutely. And not only seizing Hormuz, which I don't know what they're seizing it from, because, Bill, you said the Iranians didn't control it. So, who are they seizing from?"

Well, you have to take out the drones and the people that surround the area that are firing.

"That sounds like control, doesn't it?"

No, it's not control in the sense that they, Iran, have anything other than they're using terror methods.

"That's control."

Well, not really. I mean, they've been using terror methods against Israel for four decades, they don't control Israel. So boots on the ground, I hate that. If we... And in a perfect world, NATO would be with us, of course. If we sent them in, it wouldn't take long to clean those people out, you know that.

"No, it wouldn't. And I don't think you would even have to, to quote unquote, seize or take the ground. What you'd have to do is sail a couple of US Navy cruisers through there as escort ships. And you might lose a cruiser or two, to which you point out the American people wouldn't be willing to do. When I ask admirals and generals, why didn't you all plan for this and have a plan to open the strait? It's basically the cost would be too high. That, that I think is the worst thing that has come out of this, is that the Iranians now know they can blackmail the world by exerting this control, this force, this terror method, whatever you want to call it, over the Strait of Hormuz, and thus over the world economy. And Trump has to take away that feeling on their part by choking them off. The only way this changes is by getting rid of the Iranian regime. The only way you get rid of the Iranian regime is by killing it from within, by choking off its control and its ability to pay everybody off."

So you wouldn't be in favor of the two-week ceasefire?

"No."

You would have obliterated the country.

"No, I wouldn't have obliterated the country, I would have done, I wouldn't listen to what Trump said. I would've seen what Trump did, which was attack the oil facilities and stayed on that. It is very clear the Iranians have not capitulated, okay, with what they're saying right now and the fact that they're charging tolls and the facts that they are complaining that the US broke the ceasefire, and on and on shows that they aren't begging for mercy, quite the opposite. It was actually the Chinese, reportedly, who forced them to come to the negotiating table. That's not people who are in a position that they feel that they need to make a deal. As I said, the Iranians think Trump needs to make a deal. That's a bad position to be in. Give it a couple of weeks, choke off their oil, and then maybe the Iranian's would be in a position where they feel like they needed to make a deal. How about this? Give us the uranium, then we'll talk. That would have been a starting point."

But they weren't gonna do that. They wanted to talk before the uranium thing was made.

"Who sets the rules, the Iranians or President Trump, the leader of the free world?".

It's a negotiation. You're right in the sense that the mullahs are not cowed by President Trump. And then you also have China in the background, and China's got a lot to say about this because it gets 80% of its oil from Iran and doesn't want this to go on much longer, which is a hopeful sign because the Chinese can put a lot of pressure on the mullahs, and if it works in concert with the United States even furtively, that could lead. See, I would have given them the two weeks because the war crime drum, the United States is horrible.

"Bill, how many times did we extend this deadline? Was it four or five that the Iranians were given opportunities?"

What do you mean? In totality?

"Two or three weeks ago, Trump was talking about bombing power plants and-"

Okay, but two or three weeks ago, they had a whole new regime that wasn't dead, and they had the capacity...

"They're the same, they're all the same people."

They may be the same people, but the circumstances changed. So they're not nearly as strong militarily as they were. You know that. I mean, they're ballistic.

"They don't need to be strong militarily. They need to have their uranium, and they need to be able to effectively shut down the Strait of Hormuz."

Why do they need uranium? They don't need that uranium.

No, they need it because that's their negotiating point. That is their..."

They're gonna have to give that up. They're gonna have to give it up.

"Okay, they don't seem to think that, and there's no indication in any way, shape, or form that they are going to agree to that. What I will say is this, as long as the Islamic Revolutionary Guard members of it associates of it whatever you want to call them are in charge of Iran, is until there is real change in Iran from a popular uprising, that country will spend the rest of its life, because it is controlled by a Shia Marxist ideology, trying to kill Americans and do everything they can to harm America."

It's going to be a tough sell, right. Now, if you're right, and they don't get anywhere in Islamabad, it's going to be a tough sell, because the world does not want to confront the mullahs. Final word.

"That is the final word, is that there is no deal that Trump can sell as a win, that Iran will actually live by and it's enforceable, and that Israel believes guarantees its security. Those three things do not exist. The only way to break that triangle is by cutting off this regime's source of funding. You don't do that at a negotiating table. You do that by cutting off their ability to export oil and not allow them to blackmail us."

That would require some ground action. That's for sure. All right, Leland. Appreciate you coming on. Thank you, and Leland's cohort, Chris Cuomo, and this is interesting. So last night on his show, he doesn't even believe Cuomo, apparently, and I'm gonna be on Cuomo tonight. I'm going to ask him. He doesn't even believe there is a nuclear threat. Roll the tape.

"The justification for it is a question mark. We don't know what the nuclear capabilities were. We don't know what was built up and what wasn't. We know what he says. We don't know what is true."

Well, it depends who you believe. So, Rafael Graci is the director of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, which has not been bullish on confronting Iran in the past. He quite clearly said on March 22nd of this year that Iran is at 60 percent enriched uranium. And it's just a few weeks away from getting a bomb. Now, this is not Hegseth, it's not Trump. This is an independent agency off the UN, and the guy comes out and says it. Now, people believe what they want to believe. And you're going to have people who you say, I don't believe it, I don't believe it. Now, what's that based on? Nothing. They don't know what Iran has. Okay, Mossad, CIA, apparently they do, but I can't use them as a source. I've got to go out of that. And when I saw Grassi, again, not a guy who's been pounding the pavement to confront Iran, saying, eh, they're almost there. You gotta pay attention to that. So I'll be on Cuomo tonight with this, and we'll see what he has to say. Let's see if there's anything else that we need to tell you. Trump's in a tough spot. And I said that from the very beginning, the biggest gamble. And as Leland points out, there's a lot of things involved with this, although I'm not quite sure that the United States is as powerless as Leland thinks it is. You know the threat of Armageddon there, I think that got them to the table. And that's certainly what the Trump administration believes. And it will become a campaign issue. So how this works out definitely is gonna influence who runs the government for the next two years.

Head of NATO, Mark Rutak, met with President Trump today. Gonna have to patch things up, I guess. NATO, my God. If those people would just cooperate, but selfish, you know, myopic... You use the word. Let's go back home. This is an interesting ruling. Judge Eric Tostrud, appointed by Trump, said to Minnesota, No, you can't have $243 million in Medicaid funds because Minnesota sued, said Trump can't deny us these funds. And the judge said, yeah, I can because you got a fraud problem and it's not fixed. So right now, Minnesota's not getting the money. Did you know about this story? I bet you didn't. But the judge also said that in the end... Minnesota might prevail, but it's gonna be a while, because they're gonna have to show that they made inroads in this fraud thing, and they can't because they haven't. So, that's that.

Airlines, you've got to pay more for jet fuel. So they're going to gouge us. What are you gonna do? I'll tell you in a moment. So if you bring bags and check them, Delta's raising the fees for that. So if you have three bags, a third is 200 bucks. You might just send it FedEx, right? But anyway, expect this summer to pay much more than you were supposed to pay. Smart Life, okay, now this is me. So, if I have to go someplace, I have to go some place. It's not like I have a choice. I do some leisure travel, but most of it's business travel. And I've got to go. But on the leisure end of it, I study where I have to go. There's three ways to get there. Plane, train, car. All of them is gonna cost more in the summer. This is the Smart Life segment. But you can hybrid it. For example, out of New York, Amtrak goes a lot of different places. You may not want to go exactly where Amtrak's going, but you step off that train, and you rent a car. It's creative, creative travel. Now I always say to people, look, even though gasoline prices are high, it's by far the cheapest way to travel. So just lay out where you've got to go and take a ride, you know, stop a couple of places you might want to see, and then you can listen to my books on tape, and you can make a kind of a fun adventure out of it. And then you get there, and then you come home. And if you drive at night, that's a lot better if you can do that. But it depends on how far. If you have to go to San Diego from New York, that's a tough ride. But Pittsburgh isn't tough. Boston's not tough. You go down to Virginia, it's kind of an easy ride. Just map it all on out. You're strategizing. Smart Life.

This Day in History, April 8th, 1895, 131 years ago. This is fascinating because it applies to today. There's a guy named Pollock, all right, he was working for the Farmers' Loan and Trust Company, and the Supreme Court said, hey, you don't have to pay income tax that's unapportioned. So that means that if Mr. Pollack was making a salary, and he was, he had to pay that. But if he was making money from interest that he saved, he didn't. That's changed now. So, the 16th Amendment said Congress has the right, everything you make money from can be taxed by the feds. Remember, some states don't have taxes like Florida and Texas, and they don't have it. But at a federal level, if you're making investment money, you've got to pay tax on it. What you don't have to pay a tax on, what has not changed, is if you have a vase in your house worth $50,000, because that's not making you money. If you have a painting on a wall, if you ever Lamborghini that you bought. Post-tax dollars. You already paid tax, got some leftover, you bought the Lamborghini. You don't have to pay tax on that again. Bernie Sanders and his crew want to throw that out. And this is gonna come into the Supreme Court's realm. What they want is to seize all assets, add them up. So O'Reilly's got this, this, and this. This is how much he's got. We're taking a percentage, not only of his income that he makes from his job, but everything he owns. Wealth tax. That's communism. Seizure of private property. Now, they can tax your land locally, school tax, general tax. They can do that to support stuff in your community, like high schools. Feds can't do that. But that's what the communists want. And that's when you hear wealth tax. I don't believe it's ever gonna happen, okay, in this country. I think they'll rule it unconstitutional. But anyway, that ball started 131 years ago today and totally out of control now. Taxation in this country, totally out of control because most of the money goes to social welfare programs. This is basically giving people cash without any supervision, any accountability. You can't. 350 million people, you can't do it. All right, we have a new YouTube thing. We have a lot of stuff, and we'll tell you all about it when we come back.

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Okay, we have the We'll Do It Live, our pal, Howie Mandel. And Howie, he's had a rough life. And boy, oh boy. So you might want to watch that. It's on YouTube. You just go to BillOReilly.com, you hit the button, it gets you right over to Howie. Then we have a brand new YouTube bonus, I call it. And that is on the press being subversive in a time of war. You're gonna want to watch that. That's eight minutes long. Okay, so that's worth it. Our YouTube channel is youtube.com/BillOReilly. It is free of charge. Let's get to the mail.

We got David Langston, Paducah, Kentucky. "Bill, help me understand something. President Trump says we've destroyed Iran's Air Force and Navy. Why do they still control the Straits of Hormuz?" Well, I dealt with that today, David, and drones are drones. Okay, you can't get them all, but they got most of them.

Jordan Butess, St. Albert, I'm sorry, St Albert, Canada. It's in Alberta. The providence in the West. Jordan asks, "You shouldn't be surprised by the lack of cooperation with the Iranian War; the Bushes, Obama, and Clinton were able to build coalitions. President Trump has not done this, maybe because of his hubris. Perhaps belittling allies was not prudent." There's something to that. There's some to that, it's a lot easier for if you kiss somebody's butt to make a deal to put it one way.

Jerry Axton, Buckeye, Arizona. "Considering the partnership and support of other countries today, should the USA only protect itself?" Can't do it. Can't live in a world this complicated with all the trade and everything by being an isolationist.

Jason Vose, Katori, Japan. "Mr. O, there are two things I'd like to say. Number one, Japan cannot afford to help America and Iran. If Japan lent one or two destroyers, it would be leaving itself open to possible Chinese attack." For which the United States protects Japan by our base in Okinawa. So, don't give me that, Jace. Number one, they got plenty of money over there. Number two, they can help us out. Number three, they should.

Tim W. Farmington, Iowa, Timothy Wilkins. "Hey, Bill, I know you will not Monday morning quarterback the war, but I'd appreciate your perspective on the legal framework governing presidential war powers. How long can the president hold out?" Another 50 days or so, then he'd have to go up to the hill. And the Trump administration believes this whole thing will be over by then. Who knows? That's what they believe.

Julie. "North Korea has nuclear weapons. How has the world prevented them from using nukes?" China's in charge of that. And the North Koreans don't have a real sophisticated delivery system. So you see all these tests and the rockets they have just kind of dunk into the Pacific. So it's not like they're on the edge of attacking anyone there. Okay. We want you to check out our great hats, 250 USA, kind of patriotic, right, for spring and summer. BillOReilly.com store has them, and they are our fastest-selling item ever. Word of the Day: do not be a troglodyte, Trog, T-R-O-G-L-O-D-Y-T-E. I know a lot of troglodytes, don't be one. Final thought, coming right up.

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Okay, so once again, I just want to review. We have Howie Mandel on the Do It Live, long-form podcast, whatever you want to call it. And then we are on Cuomo tonight at eight o'clock on News Nation. And then, we have some journalist traitors on our YouTube channel. I'm exhausted. I gotta do all this stuff. I can't believe at my age I'm still doing this. Nobody else can either. Everybody goes, what are you doing? I said, you know, I have to do it. I mean, I was given these gifts, and I'm using them. And come on, if I predicted that, that it would be an extension on Monday, that's pretty impressive. I think that's almost as big as me predicting that President Biden wouldn't run again months before he packed it in. I knew he wasn't gonna run, and I knew they were gonna get an extension. What I don't know is how this negotiation is gonna turn out. Leland may be right, but let's pray that we don't have to annihilate civilians. That is not gonna be good for our country. But we can't let them have nukes. You've heard it and heard it, and heard it, but it's true. Okay, you wanna reach me, Bill@BillOReilly.com, Bill@BillOReilly.com, name and town if you wish to opine. We will see you on Monday.

CEASEFIRE: Did Trump Win or Lose to Iran?, Leland Vittert Weighs in on the President's Strategy & NATO's Chief at the White House

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How Israelis See the Iran Crisis

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Armin Rosen, correspondent-at-large for Tablet Magazine, enters the No Spin Zone to opine on how Israelis view the Iran conflict, whether he’s surprised that polling in America is against Trump’s military strategy, and the rise of antisemitism.

Bill O'Reilly & Dave Rubin on Trump, Iran, and Global Politics

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Bill O’Reilly joins Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” to discuss Trump’s approach to ending the Iran conflict, including nuclear negotiations, military risks, and global power dynamics. They also cover NATO, U.S. politics, economic pressures, and the shifting media landscape.

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The World Awaits: U.S. Threats Against Iran Escalate

2026-04-08T00:19:00Z

Bill gives the latest on Iran and explains why no matter what Trump does, he loses.

The World Awaits: U.S. Threats Against Iran Escalate, Armin Rosen on How Israelis See the Iran Crisis, Republican Dissent Begins & Pam Bondi's Ousting

2026-04-07T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Tuesday, April 7th, 2026. Stand up for your country. The world awaits the USA action in Iran. Just logistically, we are taping this in the late afternoon on April 7. If something happens, we will be tweeting almost immediately, and then I will try to update messages throughout. So just keep it at BillOReilly.com, and we will kind of guide you through what's happening. So I'm gonna be around all night, gonna be watching it. Big story, obviously. Now, I feel sorry for the Persian people. They are in the kill zone, no doubt about it. And a lot of women and children, about 93,000, 93, over there. Yes, they are at fault for putting up with this theocracy for so many years. They know the fearsome and fanatical government they have. But if you put yourself in their place and you see thousands of people executed who dissent from the government, it's a hard thing. It's got to be an organization. And the mullahs have a very tight grip, as we all know. 200,000 in the Army over there. That's a lot of people. And so, as we discussed yesterday in detail, mullahs really don't have anything to lose because they don't care about their own people. They don't even care how many people die. And a lot of them, they don't even care if they die. Because then they're going to go to heaven and be martyrs or whatever their crazy belief system is. So you're negotiating with people who don't really care. And I made the comparison to Putin. Putin doesn't care about his people at all. Now, Putin doesn't want to die himself, so there's a little bit of a difference. But very hard to negotiate with these suicide people. The Nazis, the SS, and World War II, the Tojo government in Japan, we've seen it throughout history. The United States has taken this on, and we will report responsibly, unlike 80% of the other media, which won't. So we'll keep it here.

The Talking Points Memo is the latest. U.S. Military struck Karg Island. That's the big distribution center for Iranian oil. Didn't blow up the oil because of China. China gets 80% of its oil from Iran, and there's back channels there. The United States does not want to alienate China in this whole thing. So it took out a lot of the military on Karg Island. Bunkers, storage facilities, things like that, but did not bomb the oil itself. That may happen. It may not. But there's no doubt in my mind, and I know this turf pretty well, that the United States is going to try to protect the oil supply, the world's oil supply. Two major railroad lines have stopped in Iran. The Israelis warned the government not to run those trains, because they'll be blowing off the tracks, apparently. And then the worldwide reaction is interesting. President Trump can't win, he can't win. So if the United States were to pull back at the last minute and not bomb Iran, then he'd be surrendering. Or then he'd be, you know, Teflon, whatever they call him. If we do, then he's a war criminal. You see, this is the vise that the American left has clamped down on President Trump. No matter what he does, he loses in their eyes and they'll... Obviously, they control a lot of what the messaging is that goes out from the media. Now, the latest is the war criminal thing. This is just new this week, but this is a well-thought-out campaign. Roll the tape.

"We should note that destroying civilian power infrastructure is generally considered to constitute a war crime under international law."

"That would be on its face a violation of the laws of war and would be a war crime. He is continuously threatening to commit war crimes."

"A few hours later, he put out an extra post teasing some weeknight war crimes. Tuesday, 8 p.m. Eastern time. Okay, he could be announcing a military attack in prime time tomorrow."

"The clear answer is yes, it would be a war crime."

That's not clear, and the guy's an idiot, Blumenthal, the senator from Connecticut. I'm not big on name-calling, but he truly is. And so is Murphy, the other senator from Connecticut. We've been over this turf before. So the war criminal thing is now in motion. The next thing to come up will be the assertion that Iran is actually winning the war.

"The reaction is that Iran is gaining leverage over us as this war goes on. And I've been saying for over a week that Iran's winning the war."

Yeah, because you're an idiot, too. This is Seth Moulton, a congressman from Massachusetts. These are far-left people. I mean, these aren't serious people. They're not looking at the situation and trying to analyze it with any kind of objectivity at all. The United States is not losing. We are basically trying to get some kind of arrangement where Iran will walk away from their nukes. And we are doing it with the civilian casualties in mind, right? That's what's restraining us right now, the war criminal thing.

All right, on the polling, and you've got to understand, most people don't know the history of this. If you've read Confronting Evil, we get into, that's why I put the Ayatollah Khomeini on the cover. I mean, how evil this thing has been going on for 50 years. They've killed thousands of Americans, and most people don't know. All they know is they're paying more. Okay, so this is a CNN poll. First question, what is your view of the U.S. Decision to take military action inside Iran? Approved 34, disproved 66 percent. Okay. Next one in your view, is the war in Iran worth the toll it's taking on American lives and the financial burden it places on the U.S. Government, or is the war not worth these costs? Not worth it 70, yes, worth it 29? Okay. I don't dispute that. The propaganda element in all this, and the recent history of Iraq and Afghanistan, you know, people are confused. They don't know about the nukes and how close and all of that. All they know is they're paying more at the gas pump. Okay, another poll, the Economist. Okay, do you support or oppose the war with Iran? Support 28, oppose 59, pretty much the same as the CNN. A little bit better numbers for Trump there. Second question. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling the situation? Approve 30, disapprove 60, no opinion 10. Okay, so consumer pain and the stock market, too. I got my statement. I went, Oh, look at this. But I understand the big picture here. I got it. So my personal situation doesn't enter into my analysis of what the right thing to do is for the world.

And let me end this Talking Points Memo with this situation. When I'm confronted with a person who opposes the U.S. Action, I ask one simple question because I'm a simple man. Is it okay with you that Iran has a nuclear weapon? That's it. So Pope Leo, that would be my question for the Pope, okay, all of the NATO leaders said okay with you that Iran have this device because that's what it's all about. Nobody answers that question. They don't answer. They go off into flights of this and that, or, well, he should have done this, or he doesn't have the goal, or he didn't do this. It's all tactics. It's not the bottom line. So that's interesting. Finally, after all of this is done, no matter how it comes out, and I said this was the biggest risk that President Trump has taken in his administration, and it could go either way. You remember I said that. But no matter it goes, the Democrats are going to use this tactic. Here's the Speaker of the Minority, Speaker of the House. Go.

"Something is really wrong with this guy, clearly. And at minimum, we need a wellness check. He's unhinged. He's out of control. And this is not presidential behavior or anything close to it. And some of my Republican colleagues need to actually step up and recognize something is wrong at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."

Don't worry about that. None of that's going to happen. And that's the Memo. Joining us now from Brooklyn, New York, is Armin Rosen. He's a correspondent at Lodge for Tablet Magazine, which is an online outlet about Jewish life and identity. So I'm assuming that the Israelis support pretty much everything that's gone on here. Would I be wrong on that?

"Well, polls in Israel right now show that something like 75% of the Jewish population supports Israel's actions in Iran. Currently, there's very high support for continuing this as long as, kind of, as long as it takes in order to make Iran so weak that Israelis no longer feel like they no longer have to worry about them, which is remarkable because Israelis have been running in and out of bomb shelters for five or six weeks by now. They believe in kind of finishing this job, but the stakes for them are much different than they are for the United States. The U.S. Homeland is not under constant daily attack the same way that Israel's home front is. Israeli and U.S. interests in this conflict are potentially quite different, but for the time being, the two militaries are working quite closely to deal with a profound amount of damage to this regime pretty much every single day."

So Israelis are used to suffering economically because of terrorism, but Americans are not directly suffering. Would that be an accurate statement?

"Yeah, I think it's true. Israelis have dealt with terrorism as a daily reality for 30 or even 40 years by now. Not as something that could happen, but something that inevitably happens. At least in the last 20 years, probably the country has had maybe tens of thousands of rockets and missiles fired at it at some point or another. You remember how people in the United States kind of lost their minds about a single Chinese spy balloon. The experiences are just kind of much, much different. But I think Americans do have recent experience of very far away events having an effect on our lives and on our bottom lines. There was a rather large spike in various commodities after the Russian invasion of Ukraine a few years ago, many of which are on the same scale or even larger than the increases we've seen in the past few weeks. You know, we are not completely insulated from world events. And the people who are predicting an Iranian victory basically think that the Iranians can inflict enough economic damage or anxiety on Americans to basically convince us that somehow we've lost."

Back away, back away, right. Are you surprised that the polling in America is so anti-the Trump administration's military strategy? Are you surprised?

"I'm actually not that surprised at the end of the day. American politics are very highly polarized. For one thing, anything that Trump does is going to be opposed by vast numbers of people, almost no matter what. But also, you know, I've been writing about the U.S.-Iranian relationship for a long time, particularly around the time of the nuclear deal a decade ago. And people forget this, but that deal was actually very unpopular. Something like between 55 and 60%, you know, poll after poll after poll showed that there was decisive opposition to the Obama administration's deal. But I think that also just reflected the polarization of the time. I think Americans don't really think all that deeply about foreign policy for the most part, nor should they. The Iranian nuclear program is not an issue that people think affects their daily lives, particularly. It's a highly technical issue. That's the reason that it became very easy to kind of massage public opinion on these issues because Americans don't really confront them very often. But again, in reality, a world where Iran has a nuke is one that is generally less stable, one where the US is not in control of the various things that we need America to be in control of for our lives to be as safe and comfortable as they are."

Yeah. Well, I mean, look, if anybody uses a nuclear weapon, North Korea or anybody, the whole world gets thrown into a depression, number one, and the whole alignment that we have changes. And that brings me to there are a significant amount of Europeans and who believe that somehow, Netanyahu and Israel are calling the shots here, and then Trump's going along with it. You've heard that, right?

"Yes, I think it's not really true. I mean, there was a report in the New York Times just a few minutes ago, actually right before I came on, recounting this presentation that Trump gave, or excuse me, that Netanyahu gave to Trump back in February, basically providing a list of potential leaders of Iran and arguing that this war would be easy. It's true that events like that probably did happen in some form or another, but the reality is that the regime in Tehran has been very opposed to the United States for many decades. Trump himself has highlighted that threat, you know, for the last 47 years. He said in both of his campaigns for president that he considered Iran to be a major threat to the United States. And Iran has killed, you know, directly killed far more American soldiers than they have killed Israeli soldiers."

You know, the roadside bombs in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Now, this leads into the anti-Semitism that we're seeing in America and Europe. Europe is worse, far worse, I think, in that area than America is, because the European leaders actually fear the influx of Muslims, particularly in Great Britain and France. They fear them. And here we don't have that, it's just a matter of propaganda and crazy college kids running around. But this Iranian thing, the world is sitting it out. Did that surprise you?

"There are aspects of it that I do find really not just surprising, but shocking, you know, in the early days of this war, there was a drone fired from Lebanon, probably by Hezbollah, at the British base in Akrotiri in Cyprus. Akrotiri is a sovereign British territory. It's not just an overseas base. You know, the British are allowing, you know, various basing rights to the United States, as part of this war, but they've been kind of irrelevant beyond that. I mean, I think it's pretty clear by now that the free world really only has three functioning militaries. You know, look, it's the United States, it's Israel, and it's Ukraine. You know, the British, the French, all of these countries that are part of our larger security architecture have sat this out, even though I believe there was a French soldier killed a few weeks ago. And again, British sovereign territory has come under attack by Iranian proxies since this began. I mean, they're concerned about escalation spirals, right? The European diplomatic stance is always to push for de-escalation and compromise. But at the same time, you know, these are events that are considered great provocations to countries that are supposedly...".

Not anymore.

"...Players in the world, and they don't seem to be."

Not anymore. I think that the irrationality and emotion of this has overtaken the logistical danger, and really, what it's all about. Last word.

"Yeah, I mean, look, this is a very novel conflict. There hasn't really been a war like this, where a rival country's leadership was decapitated in the opening hours, where this much has been destroyed this quickly, but where it seems like the preexisting political order of the country under attack is going to survive. We're in all kinds of uncharted territory. But if the war ended today, the Iranians would be rebuilding for an awfully long time. They would be far more isolated than they were when this began. It's clear that the Gulf States, you know, are not about to be led into, you know, they're not going to put up with having to tolerate an Iranian protection racket in the Strait of Hormuz, which I think is going to prove to be a toxic asset for the Iranians, assuming they can even control it at the end of this. And also, there's quite a bit of instability inside of Iran in the months after the war last year, right? There were huge protests back in January, and Iran took far less damage. You know, the regime has come under far more sustained attack now than they did back then. I think people predicting that they know exactly what's going to happen inside of Iran in the next few months are diluting themselves. But for the time being, we're winning."

The one thing we do know is that if it stopped today, Iran would still have the uranium enrichment program. And that's why it isn't stopping today, because Trump can't live with that. That's where he staked it all out. So anyway, Armin, thanks very much. We really appreciate you coming on and talking to us today. Thank you. The Republicans are not all in lockstep here. So, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, he does not want the Trump administration to go in and attack civilians. Roll the tape.

"I am hoping and praying that President Trump, this really is bluster. I do not want to see us start blowing up civilian infrastructure. I do not want to that. We are not at war with the Iranian people. We are trying to liberate them."

Okay, so there isn't a heavy drumbeat, but, you know, there are Republicans who don't want to be part of this, the attacks on civilian targets. Okay, in other political news, I've been getting a lot of mail about Pam Bondi, 60 years old. The former attorney general was ousted by President Trump. Now, what you need to know is this. No one can cover the departments of the federal government because it's like the Department of War, it's the Department of Justice, whatever it may be. They issue reports the end of the year, the inspector generals go in, tell you what's going on. But on a day-to-day basis, yes, there are correspondents there, and they're reporting what actually happens, but really, the inner relationship between a president and one of his cabinet members, Ms. Bondi, is undefined. All you can do is guess. Now, I like Pam Bondi. Okay, I like her. I think she did a good job in Florida. I don't know why she got the boot here. I suspect it was failing to control the Epstein file thing, failing to bring Comey to indictment, and Letitia James to indictment. I think those three things President Trump felt were not positives, obviously, in his point of view, so that's why Bondi went. This is a guess.

All right. Artemis II broke the record, furthest travel away from Earth by any human beings, and they're coming back on Friday. There'll be a celebration. I hope this Iran thing does not intrude. It's a great achievement by America. Four billion dollars, so it should be great. Zipped around the moon, 10-day mission. They got to see the other side of the moon, and the reason they're doing that is because the federal government, and this will supersede Trump's term, wants to land again on the moon. Remember, Apollo 17 was in 1972. It's just really expensive to do this, and as you know, we're in huge debt here. But that's the plan, to put people on the moon again. And then to do something on Mars, you know, I don't know. Is it worth the money? You gotta make the call on that.

All right, ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union. I'm only bringing this to your attention because it's very interesting. So I'm watching all the networks last night, just flipping around to see who's the most irresponsible. Okay, who's doing what? It's part of my job. I have to do it. I don't want to do. It. I'd much rather watch the game, but I can't watch the game. I gotta watch this stuff. So up pops on CNN a fundraiser Commercial for the ACLU. Roll it.

"Hey, everybody, W. Kamau Bell, here. They say that America is the land of the free, but right now, people in the US are seeing their freedoms taken away at an alarming rate. Freedom, some of us take for granted. The right to vote, equal access to healthcare, book banning, and other forms of censorship that threaten our right to learn, and here's something truly shocking. Right now in our country, hundreds of thousands of people are incarcerated simply because they couldn't afford bail. That's not free, and it's not fair. But there is hope for change. It lives in people like you, and in a great organization called the American Civil Liberties Union. So please, join me and other concerned Americans in defending our civil liberties by joining the ACLU as a guardian of liberty today. All it takes is just $19 a month, only 63 cents a day."

"When you're surrounded by oppressive laws, you can't just sit back and be oppressed. You get up and fight. And all of us at the ACLU are fighting for you."

No, they're not fighting for me. They're fringe, far-left lunatics. So here's what the ACLU really supports. Here's what they really, if you send them $19 a month, this is what they're going to try to do. Unlimited abortion. No restraints whatsoever. Anti-ICE, that means amnesty for everybody. Do away with ice. Reduce the prison population by 50%. That means do not punish criminals, even violent criminals. You'd have to let them out. Anti-police, okay? They don't like the police. The police are racist, according to the ACLU. Trans rights. Men should play women in sports, okay, and race preferences. If you are a person of color, you get better jobs. Easier admissions to universities on and on. That's what the ACLU wants in addition to open borders and all that. And I'm watching this thing, I'm going, this is such rank propaganda. I can't even believe it. Now, it's no accident they bought this spot because they had to pay for it on CNN, because that liberal audience there, oh yeah, yeah, my liberties are under... These are fringe people.

Okay, CBS announced it's gonna replace Stephen Colbert. I know most of you don't care. Okay, so there's a guy named Byron Allen, 64 years old. I know him a little bit. He's an okay guy. He's a billionaire. Made a ton of money at the Allen Media Group. And he's going to have a comedian comics unleashed program where four comedians sit around. He ripped this off from Gutfeld. Gutfeld should sue CBS. It's exactly what Gutfeld does every night. CBS is doing it. Okay. So it's comics unleashed. Now, who is Byron Allen? Well, he is a Democrat, according to Open Secrets, which tracks political donations. All of his money goes to the Democratic Party. That's okay. Because I think CBS will line it up. So it's not going to be like The View. Okay, they'll line it up so you get a different point of view. Anyway, Colbert gets the boot on May 21st. I don't know why they kept them this long. I guess they were worried about a lawsuit from him, and then Alan moves in. Do I think Alan will succeed? No, I don't. It's not because of him, I just think late night is shot.

Okay, what else do we have here on the rundown? Smart Life. The nuclear threat. So how do you explain to your kids and your grandkids? So they're running around, and they don't know Nagasaki, Hiroshima, they don't know Oppenheimer. They don't know, and they heard about it, but they don't really know. This is the crux of this whole Iranian thing. I know this, because I did talk to the president about it. All Iran has to do is say, Okay, we'll let in the weapons inspectors to look at what we're doing with uranium. That's it. The whole thing ends. So, I'm on News Nation with Leland Vittert last night, roll the tape.

"Are you for letting Iran have a nuclear weapon? The New York Times seems to be for it. MS seems to be for it..."

"Is that a rhetorical question?"

"All of NATO seems to be for it. No, no, I mean, the Pope seems to be for it. All of these people seem to favor Iran having a nuclear weapon. Why else would they object?"

Simple man. Why would you object to neutralizing Iran, because it's a terrorist state, everybody knows that, and then allowing Iran to have a nuclear weapon? Why would you object to that if you didn't support them having a nuclear weapon? I ask that question to all my liberal friends. Nobody answers. Because there is no answer on their part. What they say is, well, we got in there under false pretenses, Trump didn't tell us what the mission was, Trump didn't do this, Trump didn't do that, boots on the ground, da-da-da, but they never answer the core question. All these people who object, who would allow Iran to sit there and develop a nuclear weapon, it's okay with them. You've got to boil the argument down.

This Day in History. April 7, 2012, Mike Wallace dies at age 93, 14 years ago. Best ever. Best television news interviewer ever. Now, I have modeled my new long-form podcast after Wallace's first show. It was in the 1950s, it was called Night Beat. And that's what catapulted him into CBS, the system, and then finally onto 60 Minutes. So I studied Night Beat, and I said, you know what, I'm going to do this, and it's working. We've got Howie Mandel, we'll drop tomorrow. And yeah, you've seen Howie around, but you haven't seen him like this. And obviously, the Steve Kroft. Interview last week got a massive amount of attention because we're doing what Wallace did. Now, one of my favorite moments, and I knew Mike Wallace pretty well. He liked The Factor. He liked my feisty style. So on September 26, 2004. 60 Minutes interviewed your humble correspondent. Go.

"You're responsible for this O'Reilly deal. And I always tell everybody, you got a problem with me? You call Mike Wallace. He's responsible for the O'Reilly deal."

"What are you talking about?"

When I was growing up, I didn't care about the news at all. I had no interest in the news. But my father liked you."

"Are you serious about that?"

"I'm serious. I'm serious about everything, okay? And I said, that guy, he's pretty interesting. Because he's giving people a hard time, which is what you did. So then, when I got older, and I said, there were three guys that I watched. You, Howard Cosell, this is how it goes. Loved him, father hated him. And Tom Snyder, because Snyder knew how to work that camera. You were the three, so you're responsible. Howard's dead, you can't blame him. But you're still here, so if you don't like me, you go to Wallace."

All right, that was a pretty interesting exchange, that whole thing. And then I was on 60 Minutes for Killing Jesus as well, and I had a good relationship with them. Norah O'Donnell did the interview. And you know, they were respectful to us. They knew what we were doing, they knew we were an honest broadcast. But Wallace, I watched everything he did. Okay, and I don't care who knows it. He was absolutely... Now, he didn't mentor me, I didn't have that kind of relationship, but we'd have dinner maybe once every few months, and I'd just comb him, you know? But he was the best, he died 14 years ago. All right, big mail segment and a final thought. We'll be right back.

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Alright, let's go to the mail. Kenneth McNamara, Pendleton, Indiana. "O'Reilly, you continue to assume your audience understands the horror of nuclear weapons. I asked a young man if they taught him about Hiroshima and Nagasaki in school. He said they did. I asked him if he understood that Hiroshima vaporized 72,000 human beings in a fraction of a second. He was shocked. People do not understand the horror of nuclear weapons." I'm not going to argue with that. Our public school system is derelict in almost every part of history.

Steve Caserto, Boynton Beach, Florida. "Hey Bill, Iran has said they will continue to control the Strait of Hormuz moves. Why can't the U.S. take over that function?" Because that would take infantry to do that. Okay, we'd have to put the Marines, probably, would take it. We'd have to put them on the ground in the vicinity of the Straits. And the American people wouldn't support it. So that's why.

Steve Clinic, Rio Grande Valley. I think it's Rio Grande Valley, Texas. "Bill, in your historical journalism career, could you ever imagine a presidential written statement like the one we saw on Easter from President Trump. To see one with such expletive language was beyond belief to me, and for him to say all praise to Allah even made it more ridiculous." I don't think I would have made the statement. But I know why he does it. I'm not going to justify it, but. Just bombastic.

Don, on the message board, Don is a Concierge-Premium Member, and he gets to chat with all the other Concierges, Premium Members, lots of fun, hope you sign up, BillOReilly.com has it. "If you start a war, then you fight with everything you have. You don't bomb for days and then want to make a deal. President Trump is going about this the wrong way." All right, but I'm not Monday morning quarterbacking, and I don't think that's right.

Randall, same thing on the message board. "It's painful to think about what seems to be the same type of fanatical leadership in Iran as Japan had in the 1930S and 40s. Only brute force work." Okay, well, there's plenty of brute force.

Carol, Concierge Member, Carol has direct access to me. I hope you're enjoying that, Carol. "I'm interested in the leaker from inside the White House who informed several news organizations that one of our planes was down. Can the leaker be jailed?" Yeah, and it's not in the White House. I think it's in the Department of Defense or the Pentagon, right, that War Department. Yeah. If you leak something like national security, you can go to prison. Let's see, is there anything else here? No, that's it for the mail.

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The World Awaits: U.S. Threats Against Iran Escalate, Armin Rosen on How Israelis See the Iran Crisis, Republican Dissent Begins & Pam Bondi's Ousting

2026-04-07T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, April 7, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Bill gives the latest on Iran and explains why no matter what Trump does, he loses.
Armin Rosen, correspondent-at-large for Tablet Magazine, enters the No Spin Zone to opine on how Israelis view the Iran conflict, whether he’s surprised that polling in America is against Trump’s military strategy, and the rise of antisemitism.
What Sen. Ron Johnson (R‑WI) recently said about Trump’s actions in Iran.
Why was Pam Bondi ousted as U.S. attorney general?
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O'Reilly & Mark Simone on the 'War Crimes' Mantra

2026-04-07T19:36:00Z

Bill joins radio host Mark Simone and batters the left-wing Democrats and media types who are accusing Donald Trump of committing war crimes in the offensive against Iran. Bill also assesses the president’s state of mind as his ultimatum approaches.

NATO's Anti- U.S. Response

2026-04-07T17:40:00Z

Michael Rubin, Ph.D., Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, joins the No Spin News to discuss NATO’s lack of support in the Iran conflict, with Spain leading the way and other countries waiting for the U.S. to make a move.

Bill O'Reilly on the Iran War: We're Fighting People That Have 'Nothing to Lose'

2026-04-07T17:25:00Z

Bill joins Leland Vittert on NewsNation to assess the situation in Iran.

O'Reilly on the Left's 'War Crimes' Accusations With 'Cats & Cosby'

2026-04-07T17:13:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Rita Cosby and John Catsimatidis and reacts to media and Democrat accusations that Donald Trump may be guilty of war crimes in Iran. He also predicts what may occur when Trump’s ultimatum to Iran reaches its Tuesday evening deadline.

TRUMP'S WAR? The Media's Shift on Iran

2026-04-07T16:39:00Z

Bill explains how the media strategy is shifting with Iran.

War Crimes

2026-04-07T07:55:00Z

War Crimes. That’s the latest leftist mantra against the American-led action in Iran. The accusation is that the Trump administration is targeting civilians and that violates “international law.”

Only it doesn’t.

After the Hamas attack on October 7, 2023, Israel attacked Gaza, hunting down terrorists. Thousands of civilians were killed because Hamas had set up command and control near civilian situations, like hospitals and schools.

So what was Israel supposed to do? Stop hunting Hamas killers? The Gaza terrorists are responsible for the civilian deaths. Somebody tell Columbia University.

Same thing is happening in Iran, where the murderous Revolutionary Guard is using civilians as shields. They are located near power grids and civilian centers.

The United States is not party to any “war crimes” scenario because it understands the war on terror, which Iran has embraced. Rational people don’t want dead civilians. But if just one nuke is used, there will be plenty of them.

See you this evening for the No Spin News!

Jejune

2026-04-07T00:27:00Z

[je·june] naive, simplistic, and superficial.

TRUMP'S WAR? The Media's Shift on Iran, Michael Rubin Breaks Down NATO's Anti- U.S. Response & Out-of-Control Gas Prices

2026-04-06T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, April 6th, 2026. Stand up for your country. Big press conference today with President Trump. I'll run it down very quickly if you want more information. It's all over the place. What I do is read Smart News and the Wall Street Journal. They're pretty good. The rest of them are just you're not going to get honest information from them. But those two zero in on and the smart life, the smart news thing, the reason that's good is because it does give you left and right. Okay, it goes both ways. So you get a good cross-section. So the president, of course, talking about the miraculous rescue of the two U.S. Airmen over the weekend in Iran. Amazing operation, and everybody involved should be very proud. The situation is that in any war, there will be risk to the U.S. military in any kind of conflict. But this one went our way. Then the president pivoted. He didn't say a lot of new stuff. Okay, it was the usual grievance, nobody's helping us. Some new names were put in there, though, Australia, Japan, South Korea, not helping with Iran. In addition to NATO, we're going to get to that in a moment. That's disturbing. Some Gulf states are helping us, but they have a vested interest of being right there next to Iran. And with the oil flow kind of stopped up, it's worth their while to throw in with the USA. But we haven't gotten much help from around the world, which is kind of startling. The highlight, if you will, of the presser was when Donald Trump said this. Go.

"If I didn't come along and terminate the Obama deal, which was terrible, the Iran nuclear deal was a road to a nuclear weapon, a big one, unlimited. Legally, I terminated it without even much thought. It was so easy. I terminated that, and then the B-2 bombers. And I did one other thing. I had killed Qasem Soleimani, who is an evil genius. And the reason I did it, I heard he was going to knock out five of our military bases."

Okay, I write about that in Killing the Killers, President Trump really believes that, and I'm not casting any aspersions on his belief, but he believes that he was designated by maybe a higher power to come in and stop this madness with Iran. Now, the people who don't like the President don't believe it, and both sides believe what they want to believe. But I'm not in that souple. So I know that the Iranians feverishly want to get a nuclear weapon. If they did not, they would have allowed inspectors in. I'm a simple man. That's a simple analysis. If you're not hell-bent on getting your nuclear arsenal, why not let them in? Okay? So they can see. You've already suffered an air intrusion on your main nuke base, and you're now starting it up again. You say, Okay, we're going to stop. Iran doesn't need to develop a nuclear weapon. It doesn't need to. So, this is all logic that I'm bringing to my analysis. So you've got a country that's tottering, may go under, yet you're still refusing to allow the inspectors in to look at the nukes. Now, the president reiterated that the end of Tuesday, tomorrow, if he doesn't have some kind of deal with Iran that involves nuking, that he'll bomb their electrical grid, take them out. They won't have any communications. I believe that might be extended. The Tuesday deadline might be extended. Perhaps for a week. Not a bad thing. Not a bad thing. It shows the world we're not warmongers here. Want to get this done. Okay.

But the key component is in his mind, the President of the United States believes he is doing the right thing for the world. The world, largely, is rejecting that. All right, so that's what happened today. Now, the Talking Points Memo is the new nickname Trump's war. So I assume, and we will report tomorrow on this, that the usual Trump haters will diminish the press conference today. And I have my producers looking for the sound, and we'll go over that. And there are people actively hoping Iran beats the United States in this conflict. And we will spotlight those people tomorrow. The strategy from the hate-Trump media is to say we are not winning, okay? This is hurting every American, higher gas prices, whatever it may be, wrecking the economy, the whole world's against us, on and on. You've heard it, okay. And I don't believe it's going to stop, all right? It'll just accelerate up. And then if we finally get a deal, which I think we will, I'm praying we will. Then it'll be, yeah, but. Yeah, but it's not the deal that he said. You see what's going on here. I mean, everybody does. And now the latest is the New York Times headlines, 'Trump Revels in Threats to Commit War Crimes in Iran.' So now we've got the New York Times accusing the president not only of committing the war crimes but revels, wants to. So what are we talking about here? Well, we're talking about this. Quote, "100 legal experts and lawyers, according to the New York Times," and you could get 100 legal experts, and lawyers say anything. "So the conduct of the war and rhetoric of US officials raises serious concerns about violations of international humanitarian law, including potential war crimes. It pointed out the very act of the United States attacking Iran, a violation of the UN Charter. Since there's no evidence that Mr. Trump was acting to defend his country against an imminent threat." So, either these people don't believe that Iran has or wants a nuclear weapon, or I don't know what Plan B would be. So if you have a nuclear weapon and you're pledged to kill Jews and Americans, and you've state-sponsored terrorism for almost 50 years, it's not hard to do the math here, is it, New York Times? I mean, this is just almost laughable what they're throwing out there. But now it's war crimes.

So let's go back into history. The only reason Japan surrendered to the United States in 1945 was because we dropped the atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We firebombed Tokyo. We firebombed Dresden, Germany. We, the United States, killed, what, a million civilians, probably more, from the sky. That was the only way to defeat these fascist countries that launched the war. It is true, Iran did not launch any war. However, the nuclear weapon component dwarfs anything that Hitler or Tojo had. We're all getting this? A few nuts will accuse Truman and Winston Churchill of war crimes. But these are crazy people. You had to end it. Trump wants to end it by saying to Iran, you've got to give up the nukes. Well, I can give you the facts. Okay. So when you are examining what's really happening, if you care to be fair, that rhymes, you gotta take all this into account. Trump haters, whatever he does, that's NATO, okay, they're not gonna like it, whatever he does, they're gonna like. Japan, South Korea, that kind of startling. Australia. Not helping, kind of startling. I mean, they're so far away that they're not gonna be affected by any nuke that Iran might use, I understand, but come on. If the whole world, again, I don't wanna be repetitive, but if the whole world allied with the United States, Iran couldn't exist. And that's the memo. Okay, now we go to the moral aspect. And yesterday, Easter, I went to church. Churches were very crowded. But my religion, Roman Catholicism, has condemned the United States action in Iran. So, Archbishop Timothy Broglio represents US military service. He's like a super chaplain. He goes on CBS.

"Under the just war theory, it is not, because while there was a threat with nuclear arms, it's compensating for a threat before the threat is actually realized. And I think there I would line myself up with Pope Leo, who has been urging for negotiation. And I realize also that you could say, well, with whom are you going to negotiate? And that is a problem."

But that's not the real problem, Archbishop. The real problem is your statement that Iran's nuclear threat is not actually a real law. Do you have any idea what a nuclear weapon would do if it were realized? And you're gonna wait and see? That's a tough one, all right? That is a very tough one. And then the usual urging negotiation, which has been underway for months, months of negotiation. And the last one, in Geneva, Switzerland, the Iranians basically said to the United States, we're gonna develop the nuclear weapon whether you like it or not. We don't care what you say. Now, I'm not trying to persuade anybody. Far be it from me to tell the Pope and the Archbishop that they're morally wrong. I'm not doing that. I'm not. I'm not telling you about the morality of the war in Iran. But, as a loyal Catholic, I'm sitting there, and this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It's not doctrine in the sense that a just war can be debated. It's not that dogma which is coming straight from Jesus. That's dogma. Okay? When Jesus says that you've got to love the Lord above everything else and love your neighbor as yourself, that can't change. Doctrine can. But again, it's not my job to try to persuade anybody that their stance on the Iran action is wrong. But I can, it is my job to point out that the Archbishop is saying, well, it's compensating for a threat before the threat is actually realized. Okay, you're gonna wait and see if the Iranians would use a nuclear weapon? I'm not sure I want to take that chance, particularly when we, the United States, can do something about it.

Okay, so NATO continues to sit it out. Spain's the worst. But it was surprising today to hear President Trump say, South Korea, Japan, Australia, and other countries won't help us. All of NATO is united now. There will be a meeting with the head of NATO coming to see President Trump on Wednesday. NATO's got to do something, except Spain. Now, Spain is a socialist country. They don't like the United States. And they have denied us refueling on their land for our planes to go to Iran. They have now actually helped out, I understand, Iran military capabilities, pretty startling. Joining us from Bethesda, Maryland, Dr. Michael Rubin. He is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, which is a think tank dedicated to defending human dignity. So tell me about this Spain helping Iran thing.

"Well, you know, the Middle East forums, Jose Lev Alvarez, a former Special Forces soldier who is fluent in Spanish, has exposed a great deal of Spanish industry, which was shipping military-grade steel and other technology to Iran, to a company that was manufacturing Iranian drones. This is at the same time, as you said, Bill, that the Spaniards were denying the United States access to some of the bases, and it's at the same time that the Spanish government was also boycotting all Israeli goods and leading the braying pack, arguing that Israel really has no right to exist, that it's a terrorist state. I mean, it really is unbelievable that a Spanish ally, one that was with us just a couple of decades ago, I mean, a NATO ally, one that was so with us, just a few decades ago, has made such a turn."

And it has, because it's a socialist government. Is that what's behind this?

"In Spain's case, yes, but also the Spanish prime minister was elected, and as you said, he comes from a socialist background. He was elected because, among Spain's center-right, there was a corruption scandal. As soon as he got into office, however, his wife became the focus of a corruption scandal. So I suspect in Spain's case, part of its ideology, part of its distraction, and then if we want to look more broadly, you're talking about South Korea, which today is also a very leftist regime, and other countries, Australia. We are like Gulliver in Gulliver's Travels, and so many of these other countries are the Lilliputians, who simply want to tie us down without view to the greater threat that looms over the horizon, Bill."

But they believe the greater threat is Trump. And Trump even said it today. This is all about Greenland. That's why NATO hates him and won't cooperate, which I think there's some truth to that.

"Well, NATO certainly resents Donald Trump. Look, if we want to look at Donald Trump's first term, one of Donald Trump's signature achievements was actually getting NATO to pay up. But NATO doesn't necessarily like having to pay up, and certainly its politicians don't like having to explain to a public that doesn't understand that it has been shielded from these threats for so long. When it comes to Iran, know that Iranians have conducted assassinations on French soil, on German soil, on Spanish soil, and on British soil. I mean, this notion that Iran doesn't pose a grave and growing threat is absolutely insane. And this notion, that we hear that eminence, that Donald Trump violated eminence, is simply backward when it actually comes to the roots of eminences in international law."

Well, you've got everybody aligned, including the Catholic Church, that's putting a more immoral label on the action against Donald Trump. And usually the church stays out of stuff like this, but they haven't this time around. So I'm wondering if this is more about migration into Europe, because these governments fear, particularly Spain, is going to legalize what? A couple of hundred thousand people, mostly from North Africa. And then you go down the list, you got Britain and you got France with millions of people pouring in. And it looks like the government fears those people. And of course, as you know, Iran's a Shia nation, and that's a dominant part of Islam.

"You know, Bill, I'm really glad you asked this question, because one of the things that fascinates me with regard to this current war, in talking to people from the United Nations, High Commissioner for Refugees, for example, this is the first war where you've actually had a net inflow of population because so many Iranians have been crossing the border from Turkey into Iran, from Armenia into Iran because they have such faith that the Americans and the Israelis are bombing precisely, and therefore they don't carry risk. What's actually quite interesting when we talk about this issue of migration is, of course, number one, this year marks the 75th anniversary of the Convention on Refugees. But the other issue is that on January 1st, Barham Saleh, the former president of Iraq, took over as the UN High Commissioner for Refugees. He's the first High Commissioner who was actually a refugee himself. And he has rebutted this Western European socialist embrace that all refugees are legitimate. He's basically been proposing to get back to the basics that economic migrants aren't refugees, and this more than anything else puts the Western European approach, their back is to the ropes. I mean, simply put, they're upset that they can no longer hijack international institutions to promote their ideology, which isn't rooted in the actual law."

But you don't have that in Japan., or East or South Korea or Australia. These countries are just sitting it out, waiting for the United States to do the dirty work, it looks to me.

"Well, you're absolutely right on Japan, and I'm actually surprised by Japan. South Korea, however, and Australia have both taken hard left turns. And so when we actually look at the conservatives in South Korea, they're akin to mainstream Democrats in the United States. The spectrum in South Korea, I was there quite recently, has shifted so far to the left. We need to be cognizant and calibrate our foreign policy towards the reality of what these countries are now, rather than what they once were. But you're absolutely right, it is surprising. And again, going back to Donald Trump's first term, what he stopped is the freeloading within NATO. And now it looks like we have a much greater problem. Look, when it comes to Iran, you can kick the can down the road as far as you want, but eventually that road comes to an end. When it comes to this notion that there was no immenence... Bill, let me ask you a question. If I decided I didn't like you, and I purchased a gun, and then I googled where you live, and then, I purchased ammunition, and then took an Uber to your house, and then knocked on your door and loaded the gun, at what point would I pose an imminent threat? I would argue that when I threatened to kill you, that would be the time in which I should face consequences, and the fact of the matter is that Iranians were chanting death to America every single day, and when people say, hey, we need more diplomacy, then how come they don't question why the Russians were selling anti-aircraft missiles to Iran or the Chinese were talking about selling anti carrier killer missiles? The fact of the matter is, if you want to know why diplomacy, the window of diplomacy closed, you've gotta ask the Kremlin, and you've gotta ask Beijing."

Well, they've been historically trying to destabilize the United States, and one way to do that is to prop up a rogue state. They hate Israel, too, but Israel's a minor player there. Final question for you. The Iranian strategy is fairly simple. It's a rope-a-dope, you know, use a boxing thing. We'll take all of the bombings and all of the military action because we don't believe that the United States can be able to outlast the opposition, both from within and without. Because the press in America, as you know, doctor, hates Trump, and they're going to use every single weapon they have to try to delegitimize, which is why Trump said today, put it on Obama, put the whole thing on Obama today, which I thought was interesting. And he did that to try and deflect some of this, it's Trump's fault, it is Trump's fault, it's Trump's fault. But that's what the Iranians believe, that they can outlast the United States here. How do you see that?

"Well, first of all, I'm reminded of that old joke about the New York Times that if George W. Bush walked on water, the headline would have been, George Bush can't swim. And the fact of the matter is, the press is what the press is. During the Cold War, we had communists, we had anti-communists, and we had an anti-anti-communist. And the same dynamic is at play today. But you're absolutely right. The Iranians are trying to wait us out. Now, the model, as a historian, that I look at is 1999 with the Clinton administration, when we were bombing Serbia in order to compel a concession and safety for Kosovo. And what a lot of people forget is that the bombing itself didn't actually change the regime in Belgrade. It didn't end Slobodan Milosevic's rule. That came the next year because he had so few supporters left that he was much more easily overthrown. I suspect we might be going down the Serbia path right now."

Yeah, but something's gotta happen with the nukes. Trump's not gonna back away from that.

"Oh, nor should he. Look, he's the commander-in-chief. He is responsible. If we try to ensure international stability and security by consensus, that's never worked before. That's why the president has always been the leader of the free world. If we listened to global consensus, Berlin would have fallen back in the 1940s, 1950s. We wouldn't have fought the Soviet Union. We would have, I mean, basically it would be a whole different world, and that's what so many people on the left and so many who are just obsessed by Trump derangement syndrome don't understand."

All right, doctor, thanks very much for the good analysis. We really appreciate it. Dissent. That's the word I'm looking for. What do you think? You think that they're going to, the press is going to... They can't attack the rescue mission of the two airmen. And that's, they've spent a lot of time, Trump and Hegseth and the lead general spent a lotta time on it. But it'll be interesting to see tomorrow. And as I said, we'll have it. All right, back home, California gas prices are out of control. Diesel broke above $8 a gallon, highest by far in the country. Next high, national average of diesel is 5.60. California is above eight, and then regular gas, California is approaching six bucks a gallon, the national average is four dollars a gallon. Now, if you were the governor of the state, in order to give your people relief, what would you do? Suspend the gas tax. Right? Right? You think Newsom's going to do that? I think he might. I think he might. Because remember, he wants to run for president. He doesn't care about California anymore. But why hasn't he done it yet? Just put it on hold for two months. That would bring it down. California is 60 cents a gallon taxes, 60 cents a gallon.

Smart Life. Always interested in money here in the Smart Life segments, because it's so important to have money. And people go, oh, you're greedy, you want money. Not about buying ashtrays or taking vacations, okay? Money protects you, buys you protection, and it buys you a semblance of power so that you don't have to take a lot of garbage from grifters, that you can hire an attorney to go after them. So, Lending Tree is a big financial concern. Survey 2000 Americans, ages 18 to 80. Okay, just came out. And 40% have less than $500 in savings. 40%, almost half the country, 500 bucks. So of course, if anything bad happens to them, they're broke, or they have to go into debt, use their credit card, pay off whatever it may be. I'm going, how can this be possible? When I was coming up, I didn't make any money at all. If I showed you my paycheck from Scranton, Pennsylvania, from Dallas, when I was a young reporter, you would've laughed. You know, you would have laughed, making nothing. I still put 10% away. Yeah, I didn't have a wife and the kids, and I was a single guy. But you gotta plan all this. You gotta think about all this, Americans don't. Impulse, impulse, impulse. I want it, I want, and I want it. And it goes, and it goes, and it goes. And then all of a sudden you're looking at, I don't have any money. So that should be taught in every school. Fiscal responsibility. Every public school should have those courses. Of course, they don't. The kid's got the debit card, boom, boom, boom, mom and dad takes care of everything, and then all of a sudden the kid's out on his own, and they don't have any money. Smart life.

This Day in History, August, April 6th, 1983. Let me start that again. See, I'm delirious. I don't know why. It's one of those days. This Day in History, April 6th, 1983. Remember that nitwit James Watt? Probably you don't. He was the Interior Secretary appointed by President Reagan. Total idiot, this guy. The Beach Boys, the group, were booked into Independence Day festivities in D.C. On federal land, play a concert. Watt killed it, saying that they brought a bad element, the Beach Boys did, to the concert series or some stupid thing. First of all, if you don't know the Beach Boys, I can't really help you, but here they are. Go.

Now, you can't get more vanilla than Surfing USA, and this idiot Watt fires the Beach Boys, and then the Beach Boys get another gig for the 4th of July, okay, hot band back in 1983. So, President Reagan taking a massive incoming for this stupidity, and he hires the Beach Boys to do a Special Olympics Concert, after which, Reagan says this. Go.

"I know their music speaks for itself, but I just wanted, on behalf of all of you I know, to thank the Beach Boys for coming here on this very special occasion. We were, look, thank you. All right. Thank you very much. We were looking forward to seeing them on the 4th of July. I'm glad they got here early."

The Gipper trying to make a bad situation better. Anyway, right away, Watt apologized to the Beach Boys because he was a butt kisser. But here's the thing about Watt. 10 years later, in 1995, he's indicted. He's out of government now. All right, on 18 counts of felony perjury and obstruction for making false statements in front of a grand jury. He's convicted. All right, and he serves five years' probation, has to pay a fine of $5,000, some kind of beef that he didn't tell the truth about in the Interior Department or whatever. But karma stuck up for the Beach Boys, and that was, what, 43 years ago, today. Back with the mail and the final thought in a moment.

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Okay, we got a lot of buzz over the weekend. You may have heard about my interview with Steve Kroft, 60 Minutes guy, it's on YouTube. It's all over the place, got a massive amount of attention. If you didn't see it, you should. And then we have the San Francisco debacle up on our YouTube channel right now, youtube.com/BillOReilly. And we'll have a brand new YouTube commentary tomorrow. I don't understand. This is free. So everybody in the world should sign up for it, right? And if you don't like it, you can just watch five minutes and go, I don't like it. But you'll like it! Put a lot into this. Let's go to mail.

Jim Gabel, Morgantown, North Carolina. "Hey Bill, in Wednesday's speech, President Trump again beat the oil drum, pontificating on how vast the US oil reserves are. What good is that doing consumers? I see that benefiting is business buddies." I don't see the business buddies thing that you do, Jim, but I did tell you and will continue to tell you the US oil companies are gonna gouge the hell out of us. That's what they do. It's what we've always done. All right, whatever they can charge, they're gonna charge.

Alan Kelly, Chesterfield, Michigan. "Bill, thanks for your informative and honest reporting. I've been following you since Fox. I have a thought. Since the people of Iran have largely been cut off from outside contact and news, since we seem to have total air superiority, why don't we drop leaflets over Tehran, encourage them to take back their country?" I don't know if leaflets are gonna do it, Alan. I think everybody knows in Iran what the situation is, leaflets. I don't know.

Bruce Ludwig, Morgantown area of West Virginia. "Why aren't the Arab countries stepping up with offensive attacks against Iran? They buy all these planes and weapons from us." Some of them are. Some of them are, but their military machines are relatively small. Get a lot of help from Saudi Arabia, Intel-wise, UAE, those countries.

Ron Novosin, Claremont, Florida. "It's one thing to be against the war before it starts; it's another to be demanding it end after it starts. It's people actually prolonging the military action." Yeah. Sure, they are; they want us to lose. They want Trump to be embarrassed. That's the truth.

Brian Pierce, West Boylston, Massachusetts, Boston area. "Hey Bill, we got our federal income tax refund. It's about the same as last year, so much for the big refund." Hey Brian, you ought to check out your tax preparer. Find out why. Maybe you're making more money. I don't know. But there are significant tax refunds, but your preparer should be able to explain that to you. Everybody across the board doesn't make the same thing.

David Yoshida, Rancho Cucamonga, California. "Hey, Bill. 14th Amendment wasn't the intent to give children slave citizenship since the parents are forced to be in our country. Whereas visitors are undocumented, and immigrants are just that. So why would their children be provided?" Because that's what the amendment says. Simple as that. They wanted an extension, they would've put it in there.

Andrew Wilson. "Does New York City spend more than the average income on the homeless?" New York spends about $80,000 a year on each homeless person, 80,000. San Francisco spends more than 100,000. Crazy.

Mike Casey, Philadelphia. "Bill, your interview with Steve Kroft was excellent. Two pros. Your elevator story about you and Andy Rooney is a classic." Okay, I don't know if Andy'd see it that way, but I always tell the truth.

Eugene Witkowski, Koyo Noi, Thailand. "Bill, just watched the interview with Steven Kroft. It was good. So nice to listen to the pros." Okay, Kroft's a pro. I think I'm a pro, so I'm glad you liked the discussion, and that's what I was talking about. It's all over the place. So check it out youtube. There it is. All right. We want you to get the niftiest, niftiest cap in the country, USA 250. We're the only ones that have them, okay. So order them for the spring and summer. You need it, you need shade on your face, okay? And this sends a nice patriotic message. Word of the Day: do not be Jejune, I love that word, J-E-J-U-N-E, Je-Jeune. Back with the final thought in a moment.

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Okay, final thought. A lot of action gonna go on this week with Iran and the economy. So we're here, and we're not gonna screw around. We're gonna tell you exactly what's happening because it's way too important. So we hope you will check in with us each night, we'll give you the facts. I'm not gonna Monday morning quarterback the war. That's insane. I don't have the intel or any of that. The people who do that are grossly irresponsible. So we are sticking to the facts. Tonight I'll be on Leland Vittert, 9 o'clock Eastern, News Nation. I'm sure he's going to go over a lot of the Trump stuff. We are up to the task. Thank you for watching and listening to the No Spin News this evening. See you again tomorrow.

TRUMP'S WAR? The Media's Shift on Iran, Michael Rubin Breaks Down NATO's Anti- U.S. Response & Out-of-Control Gas Prices

2026-04-06T22:00:00Z

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A rundown of the president's press conference today.
Talking Points Memo: Bill explains how the media strategy is shifting with Iran.
A look at what Archbishop Timothy Broglio of the Archdiocese for the Military Services, said about the morality of the Iran war.
Michael Rubin, Ph.D., Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, joins the No Spin News to discuss NATO’s lack of support in the Iran conflict, with Spain leading the way and other countries waiting for the U.S. to make a move.
Bill examines the outrageous gas prices in California. Why hasn't Gov. Newsom (D-CA) done anything?
Final Thought: A lot of action on Iran is expected this week.

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Media Bias, Iran & Trump

2026-04-06T15:20:00Z

Surrender or Else

2026-04-06T07:48:00Z

No rest for a weary America on Easter Sunday. The war in Iran is still going full blast, but President Trump knows he has to end it. The collateral economic damage is adding enormous urgency to the conflict.

Therefore, the President is signaling massive destruction similar to what President Truman did to the Japanese in 1945. Surrender or else. The high command selected “or else,” which led to the atom bombs.

The Democrats and NATO are not backing Mr. Trump, even though Iran poses a nuclear threat. If those bodies would support him, the conflict would have been over already. Iran holds on because of dissent; it believes the President will fold under pressure.

I believe every sane person should support neutralizing the Iranian theocracy. I mean, how much more terrorism does the world have to endure?

There’s a bad moon rising over Iran. The endgame is in motion.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

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2026-04-03T22:00:00Z

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Media Bias, Thy Name is Abby Phillip

2026-04-03T18:36:00Z

The Afternoon Dispatch is written by BillOReilly.com staff.

If you need a chuckle, here’s how CNN touts its ‘NewsNight’ show hosted by Abby Phillip. The once-respected network claims the host is ‘driven by the facts and pursuit of the truth.’ In fact, she is the dishonest ringleader of a shout fest that is a modern version of The Jerry Springer Show. Springer’s guests threw punches; Phillip’s rowdy gang hurls insults and invective.

CNN also boasts that the show is the network’s third-most-watched program, which is akin to being the third-ranking Ayatollah on February 28th. On a good night, if there is such a thing with NewsNight, Phillip attracts about 800,000 viewers, far behind the competition on Fox News and MS NOW. The show matches the audience of the Ultimate Baking Championship on the Food Network, but is far less savory.

But ratings aren’t the main reason the show and its host are widely ridiculed; far worse is the total absence of fairness and honesty. The conservative Media Research Center recently endured ten episodes of NewsNight and – spoiler alert! – discovered that Phillip argued with conservative guests 127 times compared to just three times with liberals. By our admittedly rusty math, that’s a ratio of 42 – 1. Heckuva job, Abby.

Phillip was in peak form Wednesday night after President Trump spoke to the nation about the war in Iran. She characterized the speech as dishonest, duplicitous, repetitive, and worthless. That is par for the course - Phillip doesn’t even try to disguise her loathing of Donald Trump and everything he does. A few days ago, when a guest praised the war effort, Abby quickly pointed out that Iran is doing just fine and ‘making twice as much money as they were making before.’ Were she injected with an effective truth serum, we suspect Abby would admit she’s hoping for a USA debacle.

And it’s not just Iran. When Congresswoman Ilhan Omar was confronted by a hostile man at a rally, Phillip blamed none other than Donald Trump. And remember when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez made a fool of herself in Munich with her nonsensical answer about Taiwan? Dear Abby offered this defense: ‘Are we really going to pretend that the actual president of the United States has not made similar or perhaps worse flubs on the global stage?’ One of her most egregious blunders came when ISIS-inspired young men threw explosives at anti-Islam protesters in New York City. She falsely characterized it as a ‘terror attack against New York’s Mayor Zohran Mamdani’ and was forced to apologize a day later.

Abby admits that CNN and her show skew ‘center left,’ but most honest observers would omit the ‘center’ part. She let the mask slip during an interview with the ever-lovely Joy Reid. ‘Conservatives are living in a completely different information world,’ Phillip declared, adding that those on the right ‘don’t even hear the facts.’ No one is claiming that Abby Phillip, who studied government at Harvard, is a stupid person, but she sure does a good job of playing that role on TV. When not arguing with a conservative, she wears a blank stare that brings to mind the word ‘vapid.’

Right now, CNN’s ratings-challenged hosts are looking over their collective shoulders as the network’s parent company is likely to be swallowed up by Paramount. Will the new owners make some dramatic changes to boost those miserable ratings? And will Abby Phillip make the cut? Those are unanswerable questions right now, but we do hear that Jim Acosta and Don Lemon are looking for work.

The views expressed in the Afternoon Dispatch are those of BillOReilly.com staff.

Steve Kroft on We'll Do It Live!

2026-04-03T07:00:00Z

For thirty years, Steve Kroft was a correspondent for 60 Minutes. For over 40 years, he worked for CBS News.

Now retired, Kroft joined me to discuss the state of the media.

You don't want to miss this important episode.

Watch above.

The Decline of Religion in America

2026-04-03T04:04:00Z

Phil Zuckerman, Ph.D., Professor of Sociology at Pitzer College, joins the No Spin News to discuss religion in America and why fewer Americans are identifying as religious.

O'Reilly & Sid Rosenberg on Two More Outrages

2026-04-02T17:33:00Z

Bill and WABC’s Sid Rosenberg denounce the news that the man accused of killing NYPD police officer Jonathan Diller has been acquitted of murder. They also look north to Rhode Island, where Providence city leaders are banishing a mural honoring the young Ukrainian woman slaughtered by a deranged career criminal.

Killing Time with Steve Kroft

2026-04-02T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY Alright, here we are for After the Fact, just for you Premium Members and Concierge Members. When you watch, assuming you do, television news now, do you watch it?

KROFT Not really.

O'REILLY Okay so you're not dialing in only on the big stories?

KROFT I think that's fair to say, but now the world is wall-to-wall in the big stories.

O'REILLY Right. You know, they...

KROFT I've been watching more now.

O'REILLY But do you say to yourself, I can do that better. I mean, what are they doing here? Because I do that. David Muir.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY Looks like a nice guy, right?

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY He says the word 'tonight' 73 times in 22 minutes.

KROFT I know.

O'REILLY 73 times, we counted it. David, does he have a writer? Is anybody there?

KROFT No, I think that's they want to know that this is fresh tonight, even though it's not.

O'REILLY But 73 times, I got it in the first 40.

KROFT No, I mean, that's... Look, if you want to go and pick at things right now, it's very easy to do.

O'REILLY Oh, yeah, it's simple.

KROFT When I was a correspondent, I could write and that was probably my strength and storytelling. And I was never that good at live, you know. I didn't like live. Now it's all live.

O'REILLY That's the name of the show. We'll Do It Live.

KROFT So, you look at cable TV, to me, is kind of like, I mean, look, some of it's very good. And they have smart people on the show. Also, very much like reminded me of High Park Corner, where you just get some guy up there on a soap box and saying whatever the hell he wants.

O'REILLY And there's nobody there, no editor.

KROFT No fact checkers.

O'REILLY Nothing. You can just say what you want.

KROFT There's gonna be a draft!

O'REILLY That kind of thing. Wait, who said that? What's your source for that? All of that is gone. And that's...and I'm like you. I don't watch a lot. I don't have a lot of time because I'm doing my own thing. But I, I'm just stunned at they can't hit the fastball anymore. It's like being a baseball player.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY They just forgot how to hit the fastball, and you just sit there and you're watching people who you shouldn't be on there in the first place. They have no training at all. You know, working at Hooters is not training to be a cable news host. It's not. But the executives, as you said, They don't care as long as the money flows.

KROFT As long as the money flows and as long as somebody is attractive and presentable, and you know, they can get along with that. You know, I don't know what to tell you. That's just the way it's been for... It's been that way for a long time.

O'REILLY So you're not really watching what your vocation was. What do you do? Because you're an active mind. I mean, you got all your facilities.

KROFT I read it.

O'REILLY You read what kind of stuff?

KROFT I read the Wall Street Journal, which I think is probably the best newspaper.

O'REILLY I agree with that.

KROFT I read The New York Times.

O'REILLY Whoa!

KROFT I went through a period where I did not read The New York. I've come back to them a little bit because they still have good people all over the world. They can still...

O'REILLY All right. So you're reading the foreign stuff.

KROFT Yeah. My problem with media, I'm sure with you, I thought that the wokeness of The Times it spread from the editorial page onto the front page into the stories. And I think that the new editor, Mr. Saltzpeter, realized that and has made some changes.

O'REILLY I always wondered what Mike Wallace would have thought of woke. He wasn't exactly... Can you imagine that? Him and you, it's just, oh, jeez. That would have been a sitcom all by itself.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay.

KROFT But we actually got to the point where there was a battle inside 60 Minutes.

O'REILLY Oh, I remember it. Meredith Vieira.

KROFT Yeah and again after that more recently and that there were, you know, the women were becoming much more outspoken and I think that that's good.

O'REILLY As long as they have something to say.

KROFT Yes, and I...Look, I think there are a lot of really talented women journalists right now and a lot talented minority journalists right now, and that's great. They have to make sure that they keep their political positions separate from their work. I think that's where you start to get into some trouble.

O'REILLY Do you ever miss it? I mean, would you like to interview Trump? I've interviewed him 30 times, okay? To me, he's one of the most fascinating human beings I've ever met. I've known him 35 years. Okay, we used to go to the Knick and Yankee games together.

KROFT Yeah, you couldn't miss him in New York. That's where I knew him. I knew when I first came to New York.

O'REILLY My great Trump stories were sitting in a front row at Yankee Stadium, and they have the Jumbotron, and they go to him, and there's applause, polite, and he'd go to me, huge. See that? He wasn't happy.

KROFT No, I know he's...

O'REILLY I got him a vanilla milkshake though. It made it all better. But he, like him or not, hardest working president of all time, guy never sleeps. He is fascinating and what he did coming out of God knows what in New York City to where he got. Historic.

KROFT You know, I have, I want to say the thing that I feel the worst about Trump. I don't like this FCC commissioner, Carr.

O'REILLY Okay.

KROFT I, I don't think he, I, don't think Trump thinks that much of the first amendment, um, and I think it's really important, you know, your freedom to say whatever you want, my freedom to whatever I want. I think it's really important. And I think that they keep trying to like...

O'REILLY Push it.

KROFT Yeah. Cut it back.

O'REILLY But the courts are there to restrain.

KROFT Yeah, and they're starting to respond. Now, I don't know what's gonna happen when they get to the Supreme Court, but that's, you know, I've forgotten how slowly justice, or the wheels of justice turn in this country. It takes forever to get...

O'REILLY He can be persuaded.

KROFT I think he can't.

O'REILLY I know that. I have.

KROFT I hope he's not persuaded to pull out of Iran before the Strait of Hormuz is...

O'REILLY That'll be very interesting to see what he does there, because the worst thing can happen to Donald Trump, the worst, is to have a loser tag.

KROFT To have what?

O'REILLY A loser tag, he's got to win.

KROFT Yeah. And he's not going to win if he pulls out. And the other thing is I have a high respect for NATO and for the European allies. And I consider them to be our friends. And I hate the thought of seeing them...

O'REILLY You'll never have detente there.

KROFT Huh?

O'REILLY You'll never have detente there. There's bad, bad blood. And I know that to be soon. It's been a very, very interesting experience.

KROFT Yeah, it's great to see you.

O'REILLY You know, I mean, Kroft and I, you got to understand this. We're the last of the dinosaurs. We are. Our bones will be in North Dakota. They'll be digging our bones up. Look at this, this guy was 60 Minutes. Look at this bone! Okay, O'Reilly we don't care about him but...

KROFT Who's this big guy?

O'REILLY Yeah. It's just like, Oh. But I admire my cohorts who have done their job honestly. And I can honestly say you've been one of them.

KROFT Yeah. And I look, I think one of the things that I said, I've never thought that you were crazy. And sometimes, sometimes in the Republican Party, particularly today in the MAGA thing, MAGA thing, there are some people out there that I think are a little, a little wacky.

O'REILLY It's all money.

KROFT It's all money, but I've I've never seen you go anywhere other than via you know, a conservative spokesman and a good representative of the conservative movement and also call people out when they think that they're wrong.

O'REILLY We try to do it on a fact-based situation. Ideology doesn't really appeal to me that much. I'm more of a historian/reporter. But I get his teet off with anybody on the right as the left.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay, I mean, these people who are apologists for their ideology, they bore me to death. You'll never see them on this program.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY Never. I mean I don't have time for that. Thank you, Steve. Appreciate it.

KROFT Okay, great to see you, Bill.

O'REILLY Thanks.

KROFT Good luck.

Killing Time with Steve Kroft

2026-04-02T16:00:00Z

The conversation continues, as Steve Kroft and Bill discuss their careers, “woke,” and more.

We'll Do It Live - Steve Kroft

2026-04-02T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to another We'll Do It Live extended interview. And I am very pleased to have a contemporary of mine with us. His name is Steve Kroft. You know him. Thirty years at 60 Minutes. Thirty years. The man survived at CBS. I survived about eight months at CBS, he's 30 years. Anyway. Well, let's begin with older folks, Americans, and they watch CBS now, and it's not anywhere near what it was. What the deuce happened?

KROFT Algorithms. That's my short answer. I mean technology. The fact that everything has gotten much more complicated. The fact it started with cable TV, and it started eroding the audience of the three major networks. And it just got down to a point where I think the people that own the networks decided to write it off, that it was not that important to them anymore, even though it still produces a huge amount of money, but that the future was someplace else. But, you know, the budgets dwindled, and people had to do with what they got.

O'REILLY But it's also about performance. So, Mike Wallace, before he died, I became fairly good friends with him. He liked The Factor, he liked my, whatever you want to describe me as. He was one who really liked me and kind of identified with it. But you had Hewitt, and you had Safer, and you have Wallace, and you had all of these pros, yourself. Really knew what they were doing. And now, I'm sorry, Tony Dokoupil, is that his name? He looks like a nice guy, but he wasn't at Chernobyl like you. And so it's not, it's like a sports team that once had all these superstars and now they're in eighth place.

KROFT Yeah, it's, the one thing that all the people that you mentioned, Ed Bradley and Leslie, we all had either, we had successful careers at CBS News before we got to 60 Minutes. And we had all been either overseas or in Washington, covering the White House or one of those places. And there was a level of experience that doesn't really still exist. I mean, those positions are occupied, but everything has changed. And I can remember, when when I told Jeff Fenger that I was gonna leave or that I was gonna retire. And he says, well, you know, what are we gonna do? And I said, Well, you go out and find somebody who knows how to write and is a good reporter. And he said, They aren't out there.

O'REILLY It's true, there's no minor leagues. I mean, we...

KROFT The local stations used to be great.

O'REILLY Both of us came up the hard way.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY What fascinated me about, because I know the personnel at 60 Minutes, the tough boys over there, Hewitt and those guys, I'd say they were savages, mini-savages.

KROFT Savages. I have to tell you a story. When I first looked like I might go to 60 Minutes, this is when I actually went to West 57th, and Dan Rather called me in because I had been working for Dan's show for like a long time, and he said, I think you're going to end up at 60 Minutes, and let me tell you, there's some big cats over. Take one swat with a ball game...

O'REILLY But he was one of the biggest cats. It's my theory.

KROFT And you're going to be limping for six months.

O'REILLY And it's true. I mean, there was no civility at 60 Minutes. It was like, you're an idiot.

KROFT If there were civility, you'd better check your wall.

O'REILLY Right. It was hand-to-hand combat to get your stuff on the air without it being edited. I think that Rather turned CBS to the left, not in a way that was immediately noticeable because Cronkite played it down the middle. Pretty much. Would you agree with that?

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY Okay. But rather tilted it to the left. I can back it up, but this is about you more than me. And then since that time, because CBS was the leader, all right, the news leader on television, they've all gone fairly left. Would I be wrong?

KROFT I don't think you're probably wrong in terms of perception. In terms of reality, I don't know. Some of it has to do, I've always thought, with geography and the fact that so many people in the media were from and the people running the news organizations were mostly East Coast people.

O'REILLY Manhattan people, D.C. People.

KROFT Yeah, Ivy League people, and that there was a built-in bias, as opposed to a political bias. You know, people always used to talk to me about 60 Minutes and say, oh, it's so liberal. I never really thought of it as being liberal, in part because Don and Mike Wallace were both Republicans.

O'REILLY Right. They didn't play that game.

KROFT They didn't play that game.

O'REILLY But Rather did.

KROFT But I think Dan did. Dan is also, you know, he's from Texas. He pulled himself up by his bootstraps, and I think was more, I mean, he gave Nixon really a hard time. I thought it was gonna end his career, that question at the luncheon was...

O'REILLY He did not like Nixon, and vice versa.

KROFT Yeah. And I think some of that stuck. But I used to tell people, look, there's no operation in broadcasting that has done more stories that should have pleased the conservatives than 60 Minutes, because we reported on fraud. The waste in Washington, and all of that stuff, when not everybody was doing that, and that's a conservative issue, not a liberal issue.

O'REILLY When you watch 60 Minutes today, surely you know it wasn't, it isn't what it used to be. You have to know that.

KROFT Yeah, I don't know what is.

O'REILLY Well, that's true to a certain extent, but let's take Scott Pelley, for example. Excellent reporter, I would say.

KROFT Excellent.

O'REILLY Hates Trump. Dripping. Blood dripping. Okay, as Trump once said. Okay, dripping. Hates him. Leslie Stahl, appalled by him. Isn't it our obligation to pull that back?

KROFT I think some of it, Bill, is perception.

O'REILLY Oh, come on.

KROFT I do. I do, I think, some of is perception, I think that Leslie can be tough on anybody, and I think that Scott, the same way. Here's my theory about conservatives. What I just mentioned with all the stuff about fraud and like scandals and crooks and all of that stuff. I think the conservatives tend to look at it like, well, there's a small occasion of the truth when, in fact, it is playing it more down the middle. But I don't think the Conservatives necessarily like the middle, I think they want people to be on their side.

O'REILLY Both sides do, though. Listen, that's why cable news succeeds, because they preach to the choir. I mean, they just tell people what they want to hear. You know that, everybody knows that. And that's absolutely hurt the repertorial business. We'll talk a little bit about you. I did not know this, and I should have known it. You were in Vietnam.

KROFT Yeah.

So you're over in Vietnam, and you win a bronze star. You're awarded a bronze.

KROFT Two, but not for combat. One was from service.

O'REILLY It doesn't matter what it was.

KROFT Well, you don't get a bronze star unless you're involved in combat theater. One for service and one for meritorious achievement.

O'REILLY Tell me about Vietnam.

KROFT Took up five years of my life. You know, I'm counting the two and a half years I was in the service and the two years before when I was worried about what I was gonna do. Because that was in 1968. I got drafted, and I got drafted.

O'REILLY And you went.

KROFT And I went. It's an interesting story because I didn't think I really had any choice. My parents would never have tolerated me going to Canada, and they would never have tolerated my going to jail. So the only thing I had to do, my only choice, was enlist or be drafted.

O'REILLY Okay, but I mean, you came from a traditional family. Was Vietnam worth it in any way?

KROFT For me?

O'REILLY Just in general. I mean, you were a reporter there. You were writing for Stars and Stripes or whatever it may be. You were observing what was happening. Is there anything worthy about that?

KROFT Only the learning experience.

O'REILLY The actual war itself, the way it was conducted, the draft, and all of that was a negative for America?

KROFT It was a negative for America, but I do think that it was instructive because I think that McNamara...

O'REILLY Defense Secretary.

KROFT Yeah, certainly realized, and LBJ certainly realized that you can't just send American boys off to die without having the country behind you. And I think we're revisiting some of that stuff right now in Iran.

O'REILLY But it's a little bit different because of the urgency on the nuke front, whether you believe it or not. I happen to believe it. I have a fairly good pipeline into what's happening. But I know millions of Americans don't want to believe it. They hate Trump, and they think Trump's evil, and he's going to do evil things. Once you get to that point, then rationality disappears. And the reason I asked you about Vietnam was I went over after the war. But I never knew whether we were noble over there or not, we, being the United States. Were we noble, trying to save these people from communism?

KROFT I think we were noble, only, and I use as proof because I've been back and they have much more respect for the Americans than they ever had for the French.

O'REILLY Yeah, it's money, though now.

KROFT I think it was a little bit more. I think that the French were, you know, they were the colonial power and that had been going on for really a long time, but I think that particularly the Japanese or the Vietnamese military people, Jap and those guys had a tremendous amount of respect for the Americans.

O'REILLY What we fought for.

KROFT Yes.

O'REILLY Sure, sure.

KROFT We were the enemies.

O'REILLY But it goes down into history as a deficit on America's sheet. There's no doubt about it. Tore society apart. And I think that we are divided now in this country as we were divided in Vietnam. I don't see a lot of difference there.

KROFT No. I don't either.

O'REILLY It was about 50-50.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY And, you know, we're in turbulent times here.

KROFT Yeah. I would say that, you know, what you said about, I think that Trump's problems are deeper than Iran and the war. And I think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that he thinks he can do anything he wants.

O'REILLY So if you were covering President Trump, you would be skeptical of him.

KROFT Well, I would be, I try to be skeptical of everybody.

O'REILLY Would you be fair to him?

KROFT You know, fairness is a strange word. I think my big problem with Trump, it feels to me, and this is 60 Minutes and CBS, I kind of feel like we're in federal receivership and that...

O'REILLY Well, he's a populist. He's a strong man.

KROFT Yeah, and exactly. And the trustees of this receivership are Trump, Ellison, and Bari Weiss, and they have said quite openly that they think that they need to adjust.

O'REILLY Yeah, they need to be fairer to him. More fair.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY And I agree with that, because as we talked about with Pelley, and I know what I'm doing, so do you. I can see when Leslie Stahl is interviewing Trump, and she says to him, well, there's no evidence of Russian collusion, you know, blah, blah. And I'm going, whoa, that's not how you pose that question.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY It's not. And you know better than anybody, because you interviewed Obama 17 times.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY 17 times.

KROFT Yeah, something like that.

O'REILLY Why did he like you?

KROFT I think he liked me for, I'm not so sure it was personal. I think that he liked the fact that 60 Minutes could deliver to almost 20 million people every time he came.

O'REILLY But he chose you. He could have had Mike.

KROFT I think because I did the first story on him. I mean, I was the one that covered him during the presidential campaign.

O'REILLY I think he trusted you.

KROFT Oh, he does, I think he did trust me, and I think he knew that I was not gonna, I was not gonna like...

O'REILLY Cheap shot him.

KROFT Cheap shot him.

O'REILLY Okay, and you didn't cheap-shot him.

KROFT And I didn't.

O'REILLY Now, in order not to cheap shot him, you have to be a little light on him sometimes. I remember those interviews and sometimes I could see, I said, oh, Kroft wants to ask this, but he doesn't want to derail the whole thing. Am I wrong?

KROFT I think you're probably wrong in the sense that we did some, there was never an interview that we did with him, that we did not ask him about all of the, all of the...

O'REILLY But you couldn't answer, rather than challenge.

O'REILLY I interviewed him three times.

KROFT He was in command.

O'REILLY But with me, I challenged him.

KROFT Yeah.

KROFT Okay. And, well, I challenge him too. You apparently haven't seen the last couple of interviews I did with him.

O'REILLY And they got tougher as you went along, okay, because he got more trouble as you went along, to be fair.

KROFT The situation was really, really a mess.

O'REILLY And then he was, you can keep your doctor here if you want your doctor, and all of a sudden, all hell broke loose.

KROFT But for the first four years of that presidency, the issue was the financial situation.

O'REILLY Yeah.

KROFT You know, we had just pretty much—

O'REILLY Over the cliff with Bush.

KROFT Over the cliff with Bush, and the worst of it, some of the worst of it was when he was running, when he was president-elect. And I think that some of those things, you know, all of the bailout of the banks and everything.

O'REILLY Unlike Trump, Obama was a realist, and he was a consensus seeker. Would I be correct there?

KROFT Yeah. I don't think nearly as liberal as people point him out to be.

O'REILLY No, I agree with that, I agree with that, but he was stubborn.

KROFT Yes.

O'REILLY Very stubborn. And when I would interview him, I'd say to Mr. President, two of them were live. Super Bowl interview is live. And the presidential interview is the hardest interview you're ever going to do, I think. Do you agree?

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY Because you have to respect the office, even if you don't like the guy.

KROFT That was actually my take on doing the job. I remember the Brokaw interviews and the Cronkite interviews of presidents. They were very respectful. Someplace along the line in the last five or six or ten years, probably, it began like, you know, it was sort of get the guest.

O'REILLY Well, it began with Iraq. That's where it began. Okay. When Iraq went south, then the hounds of hell and the media were unleashed. Cheney's this, he's a Halliburton blood, that's where it really began modern time. I'll tell you an interesting story about Obama. When I had to do the interview live, I had 17 minutes. Because the Fox Sports people didn't want any of this. They want to interview some guy that was thanking the Lord that he scored five touchdowns. That's all Fox wanted, okay? They didn't want any discourse that was gonna veer away from my teammates are the best and I love them. That's what they wanted. They hated me anyway. So I go to Mr. President, look, we've got 17 minutes. I got a lot of questions for you here. You can do 17 minutes on my socks. Okay, 17 minutes. He can look at my socks and speak for 17 minutes about them.

KROFT Yes. I said, when I raise my finger, my crooked finger from playing ice hockey, like this, that means I want to get in. I have a question, all right? You have two decisions to make. You can keep going, and then I'm going to interrupt you. Okay, you know me. Or you can wrap it. Okay? And he was totally cooperative. He wrapped it. And then I got in the questions that I wanted. I think I amused him. You, he took seriously. Me, it was like this cat in a little ball that he was whacking around.

KROFT I can't let this pass. I mean, you've been talking about Dan Rather in the liberal slant of, democratic liberal slants of CBS. What about Fox? You think Fox is maybe a little conservative?

O'REILLY It's interesting when you ask about Fox, you're asking me who wasn't really a part of that machine. My numbers were so staggering, I made so much money for them. They didn't say a word to me. Unlike you, I had to fight hand-to-hand with Hewitt and all these other pinheads. They didn't say one blanking word to me. It was, hey Bill, how you doing? Like some lunch? Okay, that was it. So I never, ever got involved with any of that. And then when I left, that one constraint, because remember I was at eight prime time, all right, disappeared. And it all fell into line, because the profit margin was in speaking to one segment of the American people. And it remains to this day on all of the networks now. I mean, look at The View, look, ABC News runs The View. Okay, and it makes its money. By talking to liberal women. That's where it makes its money. So that's what they do. But with me, it was a totally unique experience because of the economic power that I brought in. Very fascinating. It's a good question you're asking. You're still on your game, Kroft. You know, you're still in.

KROFT You know, I think that, you know, I think Ailes was a genius.

O'REILLY No doubt.

KROFT Ailes figured out that you could be dominant with a rating of five.

O'REILLY Well, he knew.

KROFT And that there was no conservative voices at all.

O'REILLY He was similar to Hewitt, okay? He knew what was good on television. He knew who was good. Now these people have no blanking idea. I don't know who the anchor is for CBS. Who is now... Tiffany Who? What? They don't know who's good, who's bad. Now you did one of the most fascinating interviews I've ever seen, had to be chilling, the Clintons after the infidelity stuff. Tell me about that.

KROFT Okay, it was during sort of the height of that, of the, well, there was a, something big happened. A network, NBC, picked up a story that was in the National Enquirer or the Star or one of them about Jennifer Flowers. And it was the first time that a tabloid story had ever crossed over to the networks. I think it freaked out the Democrats, and I was not, you know, I was... Taking kind of a week off because we didn't have a game, you know. We didn't have a show because of the Super Bowl. We had the Super Bowl that year. So I went out and had lunch or a drink with Anne Reingold, who was an old friend from CBS who had been working for Ron Brown at the Democratic Party. And she says, well, why don't you interview Clinton? And I said, this Sunday. And I say, well, first thing is we don't have a show. Second of all. He's, you know, my understanding is he's going to go and do Nightline, you know, this week. And so I didn't pay too much attention to it. And then the nightline thing for one reason or another, I believe it was because, if it's dragging on too long, tell me, I think that somebody was going to be executed. And I think, that night, and I think that, that Clinton was, in Arkansas was nervous doing it. So it slid. So I get a call on Thursday or Friday from Anne Reingold and said, you sure you don't want to do this? And I said, we don't have a show. And she said, well, now I started thinking, I said, let me call, you know, I sort of was sure you can get him. And I had a conversation with some people on the campaign, one of whom was Stephanopoulos. And I called up Hewitt, he's in LA. And I said, can we, you know, we can get Clinton, you know. And he says, well, what are you going to talk about? I said there's only one thing to talk about with Clinton. And that's Jennifer Flowers. And he said, Okay, let me see what I could do. They were running a 48 hours after the Super Bowl and he had called up and got them to carve out like 10 minutes for us out of the out of the 48 hour piece. And so that was it. I can remember the call with Stephanopoulos and...

O'REILLY He was working for Clinton at the time.

Yeah, he was a press guy. And I didn't know George at the time at all. And he said, well, here's the deal. We can do 10 minutes, but it's going to be after the game, not in the regular 60 Minutes time slot. So he said what game?

O'REILLY Oh, he's at the top of his game?

KROFT Right, so I said, the Super Bowl. He says, wait a minute, this is going to air after the Super Bowl? We're in.

O'REILLY So he wanted it.

KROFT He wanted it.

O'REILLY And it was Hillary, too.

KROFT And they called back and said, what do you, what we'd like to have Hillary on. And I, first of all, Hillary had never been on television really, but everybody knew that she was incredibly smart and was considered to be a real asset for his campaign. And so we said, sure, you know, bring her along. I mean, one of the biggest mistakes Gary Hart made when he got into the monkey business, was that he didn't bring his wife on the show. I think she went a long way towards inoculating the damage.

O'REILLY Now, was that a tough interview for you to do because of the tawdry nature of the accusations?

KROFT No, it was pretty straightforward, you know it wasn't...

O'REILLY And he denied everything.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY And what did she do?

KROFT You know, she stood up for him, and she was...

O'REILLY Stand by your man?

She was really great. I mean, I would say great. I mean, great in what her task was, was to save his... ass.

O'REILLY So they just... They just moved it all over, right?

KROFT They didn't really smooth it all over because they didn't really know where we were going to go with this. And they were under the impression that we were going to ask them some questions about his campaign.

O'REILLY Are you kidding? They thought that? But you, as a journalist, knew he had to rep in Arkansas.

KROFT Of course.

O'REILLY You knew that.

KROFT Yes.

O'REILLY Did you bring that up? Say, hey, you're rep is a little...

KROFT I didn't have to go to the reputation and the gossip. We had, you know, the Jennifer Flowers. She was out there saying this.

O'REILLY After you did the interview, what was their reaction, the Clinton's?

KROFT Hillary did not like it, and Hillary went on the air and said that Steve Kroft was so nice when he was asking the questions, and then apparently he came back and asked all these questions, these mean questions, and...

O'REILLY Attacking you.

KROFT Attacking me and attacking 60 Minutes, and Don really went after her, and she shut up pretty quickly because it wasn't true. But it was a weird interview, you know?

O'REILLY Yeah.

KROFT It was a wierd interview. I think that, you know, I kept trying to think, what's the first question I'm going to ask you?

O'REILLY I have a bunch of wise guy answers, but I'm not going to do it.

KROFT I said, so, tell me, who is Jennifer Flowers, and how do you know her?

O'REILLY That was smart.

KROFT Yeah, because he was completely...

O'REILLY Yeah. And you weren't being, you weren't being accusatory. Now it's all about accusation. Now it's like, you're a pinhead, you did this, well, you know, that kind of thing. When you completed the interview, did you have a better assessment of the two of them or a worse assessment?

KROFT I didn't quite know what to think. You know, this occurred at a time when he had been on the cover of Newsweek the week before this interview, and they had declared him the frontrunner for the nomination. But nobody really knew very much about him. And, you know, I know Clinton now, much better than I did. I didn't know him at all when I did that interview. He's an impressive person.

O'REILLY Very smart.

KROFT Very smart, and very likable.

I sat between him and Henry Kissinger at Yankee Stadium one time was unbelievable, but he's not a truthful man.

KROFT Uh, no.

O'REILLY He's not.

KROFT Well, he's not truthful about certain things.

O'REILLY Most presidents are like that. I think Obama might be an exception to it, even though Obama made some pretty big mistakes with his rhetoric. They're gonna say whatever puts them in a favorable light. You know that.

KROFT You know, and with the Jennifer Flowers thing, he had to...he was going to be in this, he had to lie, and he...

O'REILLY But it was the arrogance because after that he goes to Lewinsky. He doesn't even learn his lesson.

KROFT Well, actually, I can't remember exactly...

O'REILLY The timeline.

KROFT The timeline, whether it was Lewinsky or the other woman from Arkansas.

O'REILLY Okay, but be that as it may.

KROFT That was the one, that was where he got in trouble.

O'REILLY Paula Jones.

KROFT Yeah, he admitted that he had lied.

O'REILLY If you're caught doing that and your whole career wobbles, maybe you don't do it again. Not him. See, I know you're not a psychiatrist, but I-.

KROFT No, but I would point out the fact that, I remember Izzy Stone once said, the first thing you need to know when you go to Washington is that all politicians lie.

O'REILLY And I don't think that, with the exception of Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln's a pretty honest guy. Washington, he'd lie to Martha, but he didn't do a lot of public policy.

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O'REILLY You also show up in Chernobyl. Fascinating.

KROFT That was a good peace.

O'REILLY Yeah, and people have forgotten about that, and that brings us back to Iran and the nukes. Chernobyl wipes out this whole area, still to this day contaminated, and you had to then broach the Russian bureaucracy. They didn't want you reporting over there, did they?

KROFT Well, it was the Soviet Union, and Chernobyl was in Ukraine, so I was dealing with the Soviet apparatchiks.

O'REILLY Okay. Why would they let you even do that?

KROFT They let a couple of print reporters in, and that's when I saw the opening, and then we pushed for it. I think that they thought that it would be a sense that they were being open as they could about it, because they made some really big screw-ups at the beginning. And I think that they wanted to demonstrate that they were doing everything they could to try and clear out the mess.

O'REILLY So this was a PR campaign?

KROFT I never considered it part of a PR Campaign because I thought that there was too much stuff that they would never gonna be able to like turn to their advantage. And there wasn't.

O'REILLY Getting back to CBS, 30 years, did you make any friends over there? I mean, real friends.

KROFT Few.

But it's not easy to make friends in the television news industry.

KROFT No, it's not, and I'm being honest, and it goes back to what I said earlier, if people seem really friendly, you need to check your wallet, and the worst one was your buddy Mike.

O'REILLY What is it that drives this kind of deviousness? Now I've been doing this for 50 years, I think I know the answer, but I think the audience wants to hear from you. It's rough. This and Hollywood are the roughest.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY Why?

KROFT Because everybody is so paranoid, I think. Because everybody knows the environment, and they think that somebody is behind them, you know, going to put a shiv in their back.

O'REILLY Why just for fun, or for competitive reasons?

KROFT For competitive reasons.

O'REILLY They want the story, or they want the status...

KROFT Jealousy or whatever, you know, I think that that's part of it. You know, there's a lot of...look, you must know this. I can remember when I was tapped to go to 60 Minutes I thought this was fantastic, and I expected that a lot of people would just come up, and say that's really great, I'm really happy for you, whatever. And then, you realize after a while that not everybody was happy that I got this job.

O'REILLY Right.

KROFT There were other people that wanted it. And so then you've all of a sudden made a bunch of enemies. And that's, it's just, you know, it is a snake pit.

O'REILLY It is.

KROFT It's a snake pit.

O'REILLY Is it any way to live? If you had to do it again, would you do it again?

KROFT I think that I, no, I probably wouldn't do it again.

O'REILLY Really?

KROFT Yeah. I hated it. I mean, I was, look, the best job I ever had at CBS when I was a correspondent at the London Bureau and got to see the world, that was the job I always wanted. 60 Minutes was really appealing, and I thought I wasn't really sure I was ever going to get there. I didn't really seriously think about it. When I did, there's so many things that, first of all, the job is just 24 hours a day. I mean, you may get a couple of hours of bad sleep.

O'REILLY Beepers going off, they had beepers.

KROFT Beeper's going off. Getting on jets, going here and there, the whole thing, then coming back and spending three or four days writing the script, and then going to the screenings, and then getting on, starting it all over again. And it was exhilarating in the sense that the reason I loved the job was because of the stories that I could do, and the fact that they liked good stories. The level, you can't go into that job and not do... I was kind of at a disadvantage. I was the first person on that show that had not been an anchorman. It wasn't really well-known. I'd been, you know, a lot on the evening news and was obviously, and I had been at West 57th. But I didn't have, I had to keep doing it, you know? I had to keep doing what I had been doing. I couldn't just go in there and allow a couple of producers....

O'REILLY Were you addicted to it? Did you get addicted to it like a drug? You had to do it.

KROFT Yeah, probably.

O'REILLY Yeah. And you're willing....

KROFT Because you get excited about the fact that you're still alive.

O'REILLY But you do a good story, and people, you know, that people, millions of people see it.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY But at the same time, you're dodging the shivs every time you go into things. Somebody wants to kill you. And the only reason I survived at ABC and I prospered there, was because Peter Jennings protected me. He protected me. They would've cut my throat in 45 seconds. Local hotshot. Oh, look at the local hotshot because I worked at Channel 2 here in New York as a local hot shot. Okay, as Bernie Goldberg once said, and Goldberg wrote a book, Bias.

KROFT Yeah.

O'REILLY You read it?

KROFT Uh, no, I know Bernie really well, so I didn't have to. No, I read parts of it.

O'REILLY Did you subscribe to what he was saying, that the CBS apparatus had moved so far left that it wasn't really covering the news the way it should? Did you subscribe to that?

KROFT I don't think I did. I think I, Bernie is a pretty complicated person. And you know, people create a sort of a brand. And I think that Bernie's brand had always been a little bit on the conservative side. And I think that he liked the fact that he could be outspoken about it to offset pressure, you know, saying that it was all liberal. And I think that...

O'REILLY And he's a contrarian, Bernie.

KROFT He is. And he took it a little bit too far, going after Eric Enberg on a story that Enberg had did, I can't remember what it was. And they got him fired. Bernie was also pretty arrogant.

O'REILLY Well, we all are, aren't we?

KROFT I have to tell you a story. Bernie, I think, really wanted to be at 60 Minutes and thought he would be. And... And I really like Bernie, I admire him, I think he's one of the most talented people I've ever been around. Great journalist. But he had, they did 48 Hours on Crack Street. And there was some guy, there was a some guy wielding a baseball bat, who was like the hero of the show. And the story goes that Don Hewitt ran into Bernie in the lunchroom and said, I want to ask you a question. How do you know that guy was who he says he was? And Bernie blew him off and said, of course he was. Well, it turns out that he wasn't. And I think it certainly damaged him with Hewitt.

O'REILLY Right.

KROFT And but, you know, we had people that you talk about, I mean, Andrew Hayward, and they were really good friends, and Andrew Hayward protected Bernie. But Bernie was, you know...

O'REILLY He was different.

KROFT He was different and he was so good.

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O'REILLY One quick story. First day I was hired at CBS, 57th Street. You're familiar with it?

KROFT Yes.

O'REILLY I'm in the elevator. I'm 6'4. Guy walks in, he's 5'5. Okay. He looks up to me. He goes, you'll never make it, kid. Andy Rooney.

KROFT Oh yeah?

O'REILLY Didn't know him. Never spoke to him, his first words to me were you'll never make it, kid.

KROFT Did he give you a reason?

No, no reason, and he just kind of chortled, and I was going to be a wise guy, but I figured he's on 60 Minutes. Maybe I've already alienated half the building, maybe I don't want to.

KROFT Well, there's a lot. I tell you, Bernie and Andy have some things in common.

O'REILLY Right. It was a jungle over there, and the same thing with ABC. Last question for you, and then we're going to take a little break and for our Premium and Concierge Members. When you look back, you've done, I think, I mean, you gotta be in the top 10 TV journalists of all time.

KROFT I don't rank them.

O'REILLY No, but you don't have to reply. My opinion.

KROFT Thank you.

O'REILLY And you know, I'm always right. I know you are. I'm right. Does that mean anything to you?

KROFT Yeah, I mean, it's satisfaction. You know, you only have one life to live, and you have only one, you know, I got into this business, and I got to the, you know, pretty much to the top ranks. And I was very proud of all the work that I did there. And...

O'REILLY But you say you wouldn't have done it again if you had to go around?

KROFT Well, I'm saved by the fact that it doesn't really exist anymore, that job.

O'REILLY Yin and Yang.

KROFT Yin and Yang. But I thought they were great. I got to go all over the world. I got to see... Meet all these people. That's what I loved about the London Bureau. I could go. That was also a killer job, but that's what I wanted. You know, when I decided I wanted to be a reporter, it came in Vietnam when I saw some guys straggle in from one of the networks, I think it was CBS, it might have been ABC, and you know they had long hair and they were wearing, you know, camouflage fatigues and they looked really cool and they weren't in the army. And this is when I was with the 25th Infantry Division, and one of my jobs was to escort some of these people, which I did a few times, and I said that's what I want to do. I wanted to be a foreign correspondent from that point on.

O'REILLY Well, you certainly accomplished it. And we really appreciate you spending some time with us today.

KROFT Okay. I'm sorry, I don't have time to tell you my first day at CBS. My elevator story.

We'll Do It Live! - Steve Kroft

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For thirty years, Steve Kroft was a correspondent for 60 Minutes. For over 40 years, he worked for CBS News. Now retired, Kroft joins Bill O’Reilly on the latest episode of We’ll Do It Live! to discuss the current state of the media, President Trump, his famous interviews with Barack Obama, the Clintons, and more.

Killing Time

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Iran & Religion Decline

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Trump's Speech

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President Trump’s speech last night was designed to reassure the country that the end is near in Iran. Most likely true but he was largely speaking to a hostile audience who have largely turned on Mr. Trump.

Millions of people don’t care about nukes or terrorism or Hormuz. They are concerned primarily about themselves and hide behind virtue to oppose America’s action which is not a venal exercise no matter what the Trump-haters say.

Don’t think there is anything the President can do to change that. Weakness is spreading all over the globe and believe me Putin and China know it. I guess my next book will have to be “Not Confronting Evil.”

Hope you all have a peaceful weekend.

O'Reilly & Hannity on the President's Iran Speech

2026-04-02T04:27:00Z

Bill and Sean Hannity predict what President Trump may tell the American people on Wednesday night and assess the current state of the war in Iran. Bill calls the action a military success, but notes that most Americans are not on board with the president.

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Trump's Iran Address, Phil Zuckerman on the Decline of Religion in America, & Federal Judges vs. The Trump Administration

2026-04-01T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Wednesday, April 1st, 2016. Happy Passover to all our Jewish viewers all around the world. You know, I hope this anti-Semitism madness subsides. This is crazy stuff. It really is. There's no reason for it. And it depresses me. You know, I was raised with a lot of Jewish kids. A lot of them are still my friends 70 years after the fact. Or whatever, I just don't get it. But anyway, we want you to have a nice Passover tomorrow, Holy Thursday, Good Friday, then Easter weekend. So I hope we can all relax a little bit. President Trump's not going to be able to relax because he's in the middle of a war with Iran, as everybody knows. And that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo.

So tonight, 9 p.m. Eastern, the president will address the nation. All three networks will carry it, all the cables. Now, having known Donald Trump for 35 years, he doesn't do this unless he's got something positive to say. I don't know what it is, you know, it goes back and forth and in and out, but he's not taking the time to say, hey, we're losing, or it's not working out, he's not going to do that. He's going to put a positive spin on what's happening in Iran. Now, all we have is a truth social this morning that the president believes there will be a ceasefire, but Iran denies that. You've got to put this into perspective. So Iran has to save face to its own people because that government there is tottering. And it can't say, hey, we're losing, we are going to surrender to America and Israel. It can't. So just keep that in perspective. But Mr. Trump has something that he's going to deliver tonight. I will tweet throughout the whole speech, @BillOReilly. Okay. And it's the best thing I can do, real-time and tell you, you know, what's really happening because you've got to understand all presidents engage in propaganda. Every single man that's held the office, everyone, this is the way they do it. And there's a reason for it. They want to rally the troops to use a bad pun in this war situation. But you know, what Mr. Trump says is going to try to help his administration. Some of it will be valid, and others will be a recitation of his greatest hits. We did this, we did that, you've heard it before. But it's well worth listening to.

A couple of reasons. Number one, whatever he says, the Trump haters are gonna hate. Doesn't matter what he says. Okay, and number two, you, the American citizen, the honest American citizen need to know where the government's coming from and what is likely to happen. And that's what I will do. So I'm gonna say this is likely to happen. He's got to get out of this in the next week or so, maybe two weeks. But it's just taking too much of an economic toll, and there's too much dissent. And on that subject, a new poll, Reuters/Ipsos, so-so poll. Not particularly accurate. First question, overall, do you approve or disapprove of the U.S. Military strike against Iran? Approved 35, disapproved 60. I don't believe that number, even though we are a soft nation. We are not ready to fight a war psychologically. We're not ready. We don't want to make any sacrifices at all. And that's true. Second question, thinking about where things stand with the conflict in Iran, which statement comes closer to your own views? Work to end use involvement in the conflict quickly, even if it means we do not achieve our goals, 66%. I don't believe the number. I think it's just too high. Work to achieve all the goals, even if it means U.S. Involvement in the conflict continues for an extended period, 27 percent. Nobody wants an extended period. Final question, would you favor or oppose sending U.S. Ground troops? We all know the answer to that. Favor 18, oppose 76. And it's not going to happen. And you know, the people on the internet who whip this stuff up and on cable news, they're liars. They don't know anything. They just try to get attention to themselves.

All right. So the big winner in all this isn't the USA. Down the road, maybe it will be, it's Putin. So Putin's sitting there in Moscow, he's loving this. Number one, a lot of the sanctions have been lifted off his oil sales, so he's making money, which he needs to kill people in Ukraine. And the Russian economy is devastated, as I predicted it would be. And number two, NATO is finished. Because, and this makes no sense to me, and I wrote a message of the day about it on BillORiley.com this morning. All the NATO countries have to do is say, we're with you. That's it. Because the United States and Israel are doing the heavy lifting. France isn't going to send troops. All they have to say is, we'll help you out. Want to land U.S. Planes and refuel? Yeah. If you need us to do some specific things in Hormuz, we're with you. No, they won't do it. So what good is NATO? And that's exactly what Donald Trump believes. We don't need them. Putin loves this, loves it. So down the road, Putin's got his eye on the Baltic states, okay, Latvia. Other Eastern European countries, Moldova, weak governments, where he can just walk in and take over. That's what he wants to do. And if there's no alliance between Europe and the USA, it's a lot easier to do that. And there's no alliance. Trump's really mad. I mean, as angry as I've seen him in quite some time. Because there is no excuse for France, Spain, Italy, Germany. Not only do they refuse to help us, but they're mocking us by saying, oh, it's an immoral war. It's an illegal war. I'll never go to Spain again as long as I live. And it's a beautiful country. I've been all over it. I rode a motorcycle all over that country. Beautiful. Never going again. And the reason that Spain is doing it is it's a socialist country now. And they don't like the United States. They don't want capitalism. And they hate Trump. That's the reason. And when you think about it, Europe is in the kill zone. So if the mullahs ever did get the ability to deliver a nuke. Paris is going, Madrid is going. Rome is going, and these pinheads over there, they're not worried about that? Pope's not worried about the Vatican going boom? I think I might be a little more circumspect. Putin's the big winner.

Now China's a huge player in all this, and this gets no publicity, but of course, I know I went to Beijing, you know all about that. So, May 14th, Donald Trump's supposed to go to Beijing. Big conference with Xi. China gets 80% of its oil from Iran, 80. Can't survive without that oil, unless Donald Trump makes a deal with China to sell them American oil and Venezuelan oil, which is possible. But Hormuz is a big thing for China, and it can't go very long without that oil. So, China, behind the scenes, I don't know what they're doing specifically, I wish I did. I might be able to find out. I'm going to D.C. In a couple of weeks. But, believe me. China is much more powerful than Putin. And they're just sitting back, and I watch, but that's a big, big factor in all of this. And finally, the America First movement is going to take off now because we're a soft nation. I was talking to Hannity on the radio program, on his radio program today. And he goes, well, what about D-Day? No D-day. Not in America, not in contemporary America, no D-Day. We're not willing to make sacrifices in this country. If we've got to pay a buck more a gallon at the pump, we're screaming. Now I know times are tough, I understand the economics of it, but we're not a nation any longer that's disciplined and gonna go do the right thing. We're not gonna do the thing anymore because we're so divided. And most people don't even care about what the right thing is. Surely denying a theocracy who has said, we want to kill Americans and Jews a nuclear weapon is the right thing, surely. Right? No, Trump's war, and that's the Memo.

Okay, so all this turbulence overseas, and the economic turbulence here in the United States and other countries, comes right into Holy Week and Passover. And there is a poll from Gallup about religion in America, a very interesting poll. So in 2015, not so long ago, sixty-six percent of Americans said that religion was an important part of their daily lives. Now that number has fallen to 49 percent. That's a pretty big drop. Second question, Pew. In 2007, 78 percent of Americans identified as Christian. Now that is 62 percent. Another big drop, finally, Pew, religion in America, 29 percent of all of us say we don't have any religion. And that's on the rise. Fastest growing theology in America is not really a theology; it's nothing. So why is this happening? Why? And joining us now from Claremont, California, is Dr. Phil Zuckerman, professor of sociology at Pitzer College, part of the Claremont College system. If there's one thing you had to point to, doctor, that has made religion on the decline in this country, what would it be?

"I'd say the internet, actually, a lot of evidence that as countries, as populations spend more time online, one of the casualties there is being religiously involved, if I had to pick one.".

Okay. So, explain then why? So, I'm fairly, I wouldn't say a I'm religious fanatic, but I'm engaged in Catholicism, and I have to use the internet every day for my work. It hasn't really impacted on that.

"I'd say that it happens in three ways, working simultaneously, at least this is what we find when we ask people these questions in studies, qualitative and quantitative. So number one, the internet has created connections for people that are non-believers. In the past, if you were living in a very religious part of the country and you were a 16 or 17 year old and you doubted, you were skeptical, you had questions, that was a very solitary, lonely experience. And you really couldn't do much about it, if your whole family was religious and everybody at school And you weren't feeling that way, you just kind of had to suck it up or you know swallow it or whatever. Now, you just go online and say, Hey, am I the only one who thinks, you know, this speaking in tongues is not really legit, or am I the one who doubts, this or that, my prayers haven't been answered. And you find instant community, instant social support, and validation of your worldview. So that's just connecting non-believers in a way that's never happened before. Number two..."

So it's easier to be an atheist because you have other atheist pals on social media.

"You could say that. It's easy to be, I don't know about an atheist, but it's easier to be indifferent, a skeptic, a doubter, a humanist, because you find that social support, which having a worldview that no one else shares is hard to sustain when you're lonely. But when you have others there, it's a little bit more plausible and more acceptable. Secondly, Unlike in the past, you know, in the past, if I wanted to learn something about religion, I walked to the library. If I want to learn about Mary's assumption, or I wanted to learn about what's Yom Kippur or something, I go to the Library, take out a book, and I can read. Now, if I Google that, I am immediately bombarded with critiques and debunking inadvertently, even if I don't want to, if I just, and I, one of my favorite studies is about clergy who have lost their faith and what they found was more often than not the clergy said hey I was I was looking something up that I hadn't studied a while it's been a while since I was in seminary and I had to plan for a seminar I mean for a sermon, and I started looking something. But next thing I know, it's three in the morning, and I'm reading all about you know how the gospels are critiquable, or maybe they're forged or maybe there this or that. So we were exposed to ex-Mormons, ex-Catholics, ex-everything just by searching for religion. And that can chip away at people's surety. And then the third factor, of course, is just how the internet interfaces in our lives. The shopping, the simultaneity, the scrolling, the porn, it's just become such a fixture. It depleted our connections, not just in religion, but to other people in many ways. So it's a sort of community sapper, as it were. It makes us more individualized. It makes us more self-obsessed, it makes us less social, and so it makes things like church a little less compelling or more alienating than it used to be in the past."

I see it almost the same way as I see the will to fight evil. You know, I wrote a book called Confronting Evil. And America's motivation to deal with real evil has dropped along with the belief in God or the practice of religion. And I think it's because we are an undisciplined, selfish society, generally speaking. Am I wrong?

"You know, that's something you and I probably don't see eye to eye on, you know, I'm a sociologist by training, and I'm happy to talk about these trends of secularization, but from what you just said, we probably, I would probably disagree, I mean, I can explain why if you want, but..."

Well, I mean, where do you disagree with me? Do you think we are a self-sacrificing nation?

"Um, it, it depends how you classify that and what you mean by that. But I guess the reason I would disagree is when I, you know, people, evil means different things to different people, obviously. You know, somebody might think gay marriage is evil. Another person might think it's just and good, and denying gay marriage is evil, so it's very subjective. And what I can tell you is those...you know, I'm happy to talk about all the ways in which a decline in religion negatively affects our society and our culture, but on this one, I don't see it that way because..."

But I'm not coming at it from that point of view. It doesn't matter to me what theology or religious tenet that you embrace, that doesn't matter. It's the overall belief in a higher power and a right or a wrong. And that's what we're seeing now. We're seeing that. Okay, we know it's wrong for people to try to develop a nuclear weapon who are sworn to kill Jews. We know that's wrong, even if you're the biggest pagan in the world. You know it's wrong. But we're not willing to do anything about it.

"Interesting. I appreciate that. By the way, I also really appreciated your sentiments at the outset. Thank you for those words. I guess what I would say, I'll give you an example. Just off the top of my head, I was reading yesterday in Israel about a troop of Israeli soldiers that is going into the West Bank and brutalizing the civilian population there, burning their homes, burning their cars, terrifying their children. It wasn't surprising to me that that is actually a battalion made up of ultra-Orthodox, strongly believing Jews. And the reason I bring that up as an anecdote is I think there's something, I think it's not demonstrable that people who believe in a higher power, somehow, you know, care more about good and bad and wrong and right and evil. I think you can have many strongly religious people devoted to God who don't care about the suffering of others. And you can a lot of secular humanist people who don't believe in God but are very, very..."

There's no doubt about it, but to put it, to put it in a historical perspective, the IDF, which is what you're talking about, in Israel, I mean, they are reacting to a daily threat. Hamas.

"Oh yeah."

It's not like they're, it's not General Custer, who went into an Indian village where all the braves were gone and wiped out all the women and children, okay?

"Well, Bill, I guess what I would say is if you look at both sides of this ugly, ugly situation, the Palestinians and the Israelis, what you'll find is the more religious in both camps, so the more religious Palestinians..."

Fanatical, sure. But there's no doubt about it.

"...are the most oppressive, least likely to compromise, and the more secular on both camps. The non-religious Jews in Israel and the non-related Palestinians are the most willing to compromise, see each other's humanity. So even that, it kind of cuts both ways, and I'm not saying this is a universal fact, but I-"

But Doctor, that's not true in the Muslim world. That's not true there. Okay, the more secular these Muslims are, the more intent they are in wiping Jews and Americans off the planet. So, it's a very complicated issue. Last question for you, is it good in your opinion as a sociologist, for America to be experiencing a decline of religion and belief in God? Is that a good thing?

"Yes and no, I can answer, give you both if you like."

No, but I want your opinion.

"Oh yeah, I think it's ultimately a good thing, you bet."

Why?

"Oh, I just think we do a better job solving problems rationally and empirically rather than relying on mystical or spiritual or prayer. I mean, you and I are communicating right now and it's got, there's nothing supernatural going on. It's all empirical, scientifically driven. You and I, I believe that people solve problems better working together in this world using natural means, using our minds, our intelligence, our empathy, and compassion. I don't think we solve much by relying on a deity. Prayers don't seem to be as effective as social policy, so I'd rather have more Americans engaging in reality in it in a sort of an empirical way, in an ethical way, rather than saying, well, we're just gonna solve this by praying. We're gonna solve, you know, all our nation's problems by relying on God. I don't think that's a good approach. And if you look at the most successful democracies on earth today, they are successful not because they rely on prayer, but because they rely on..."

Well, they're not theocracies, that's for sure. But religion does set up a system whereby good is rewarded, and evil is punished. Secular does not do that.

"Worked in my neighborhood, worked at my school, worked in my city."

Take a bus ride up to San Francisco, where I just did my special.

"Well, if that were the case, we would find the highest violent crime rates in the least believing democracies, but we find just the opposite. So something else is at play."

Okay, Professor, very interesting. We appreciate it. I don't know whether you're a believer or not, but if you are, happy Easter. Thank you for taking the time. All right, a lot of judicial activism, President Trump in the middle of all of it. Number one, birthright citizenship. We told you more than a year ago that the president was not gonna be able to overturn this because it's in the Constitution that if you're born, a baby is born on American soil, that baby is automatically a citizen. Now it came in the slavery years when they were denying blacks citizenship, even though they were born here. That's how that all came, and it was made into part of the Constitution. This court is not going to throw that out. There are some arguments on the other side that it's a con. That people come here to have their kids born here so they can be citizens. Absolutely true. But they're not going to override the Constitution in my humble opinion. Second one was blocking funding for NPR and PBS. Now, this is Judge Randolph Moss out of DC. And he's a Barack Obama appointee, very liberal man. And he said the president cannot block the funding out of NPR and PBS, which Mr. Trump has already done. This is a hard one because the money goes back to Congress. Congress is the one who decides which programs get funded, not the president. It's a separation. Probably, Trump will lose this one, too. The third one is Judge Richard Leon, D.C. Again, but he's a Bush, W. Bush appointee. He says that Trump can't build a ballroom, and construction has to stop. That's BS. I have a letter from Harry Truman in my private collection where Truman just revamped the whole White House because it was falling apart, and there was no problem with it. So Trump's going to be able to do what he wants to do, because that's under the authority of the executive branch, not Congress. Leon, who apparently knows nothing, says, no, no. Congress has to get involved. No, they don't. It's private funds. Trump raised the money privately. So that's a win for Trump.

And then the final one is very complicated. So, Joe Biden, the second-worst president in our history, next to James Buchanan, he let 900,000 foreign nationals in the country unsupervised through an app, APP. All you had to do if you were wanting to come to the United States was apply for asylum using that app. That's not what the law reads. You've got to go to a port of entry to apply for asylum. That's the law, 1952. So this crazy thing, another nutty judge, Alison Burroughs, Massachusetts, Obama appointee, all right, says no, Trump can't knock that out. Certainly, he could. This is policy. So it's Biden's policy to let everybody in here and supervise his Trump policy not to let anybody in unless they have a valid reason and they follow the law. So this Judge Burroughs, this is crazy. It's how crazy this is. Now, the Supreme Court does not make policy. It doesn't make the laws. It upholds what's already there or throws it out. Trump's going to win. So it's a 2-2 here. I hope I've explained that. A little complicated, but there you go.

Another poll, Gallup. What are Americans most concerned about? Ta-da, healthcare premiums. Congress has got to do something, and they won't. They won't, they're lazy, they don't care about you and me. But you've got to get a lid on this. You can't be bankrupt in people if they get sick. It's all Congress. And Americans, no, they can't afford it. Can't afford medicine, can't go to the hospital, can't even afford to go to a doctor. And Congress has to go in and make new laws about this. And there gotta be constraints on the insurance companies. You can't be doing a thousand percent price rises. So, you know, this one, we all get it. This is crazy. California, this is on brand. Gender secrecy, do you know what that is? So in California, it was the law, state law, that said, if your kid is in public school, and wants to become a girl and he's a boy, you, the parent, are not to be alerted. The law, gender secrecy, well, Thomas Moore law center sued on behalf of somebody who said my rights as a parent are being violated, U.S. Judge Roger Benitez said yeah, this law is unconstitutional, the Supreme Court ruled that. Okay, you've got to be able to tell the parents, you can't have a law since you can tell the parents. And now the judge has awarded four and a half million dollars to the Thomas Law Center. Correct ruling. Crazy Colorado. I've never seen a state, and I've lived in Colorado, and I've visited every state, change the way Colorado has changed. You can blame it on the Californians, you can blame it on everybody moving there, but this state is nuts now. Crazy. So conversion therapy, you know what that is? That's when you're gay, but you don't want to be gay. So you go to a therapist, try to convince you not to be gay, conversion therapy. Nobody's forcing you, you just go. So Colorado said, uh-uh, we're banning conversion therapy, and the Supreme Court said, Mmm, no. Under the First Amendment, freedom of expression. If somebody wants to go in for conversion therapy, they can. That law is gone. Crazy country. Really is.

Smart Life, April Fool's Day. So, in addition, being passed over and Holy Thursday tomorrow, we've got April Fool's Day. So nobody really knows what this is. But I got two points to make in the Smart Life segment. Number one, the Romans invented April Fool's Day, but they didn't know it was April Fool's Day. All they knew it was springtime. Now, in ancient Rome, one of the big sporting events was getting intoxicated. Any occasion, any excuse, they're getting blasted on wine or whatever it may be. So this is just another one. We've got April, and then we're going to go out, we're gonna have a party, we're all gonna get blotto. This is what we do, and the emperors loved it. Loved it. They wanted that population not to know what the hell was going on. All right, so that's where April Fool's Day started. The festival was called Hilaria, Latin for joyful. I bet. Okay, and it just went down through the Middle Ages into our modern society, where you play a trick on somebody on April Fool's Day. Here's a smart life. Careful with those tricks. Man, the unintended consequences of that, you can get into massive legal trouble. Because there's always stuff that spirals out of control on April Fool's Day. Now, if you want to tell a joke, or you want to put some spice in somebody's food. But even then, the person has an allergic reaction, you're screwed. Careful with the April Fool's fun.

Tiger Woods. So he's a drug addict. Finally admits it. He's going into rehab. And a big tabloid story. Tiger Woods, wealthy guy, all of that. And I have a different take on Tiger Woods, and I was on with Katie Pavlich last night on NewsNation. Here's what I said. Go.

"Well, Tiger Woods is a drug addict. He admitted it tonight. He's going to rehab, and I hope. Would encourage every American to hope that he gets well, because he's a danger to himself and others. So we live in a culture that celebrates the destruction of the famous, which is one of the bad things about the United States. We'd love to see famous people get taken down. I don't know what that mentality is, but I'm hoping that Mr. Woods cleans it up.".

Okay, and it's true. You know, if you're famous or wealthy and you get hammered, everybody goes, yay, sport, it's a sport. This Day in History, April 1st, 1979, 47 years ago, the Shah was overthrown. Same exact scenario as it is now in Iran. Persians hated their government. Shah was corrupt. I write about this extensively in Confronting Evil with Ayatollah Khomeini on the cover. Khomeini engineered this thing, all right, to get the Shah out of there. But isn't it ironic that today, April 1st, 1979, the Shah and his family said, Hey, we're going on vacation. They never came back. Because if they did come back, the mullahs would have cut their heads off. And the Shah was a bad guy, an awful guy. Secret police, the whole thing. And he deserved to be booted, but he didn't, Iran did not deserve what took over. Isn't that ironic? 47 years ago, today. Ronald Reagan was president when that happened. He was elected on November 4, 1980, and this was, Ronald Reagan was running for president then. He beat Carter, as you know. Okay, we got a lively mail segment, a final thought about our extended podcast. We have a very interesting guest this week, and I'm going to tell you all about it in a moment.

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Okay, YouTube. I did the San Francisco story on YouTube. The place is falling apart, no right or wrong. In fact, wrong, evil, is enabled by the San Francisco city fathers and the state of California. You would like this commentary. It's free youtube.com/BillOReilly. So we hope you sign up for that. Let's get to the mail. Karen on the message board. That means Karen is a Premium Member for BillOReilly.com, and she can interact with other premium members. "You can only turn the other cheek for so long. I'm very disappointed Pope Leo felt the need to take sides on Iran because, obviously, diplomacy is far better than war. It's not like we haven't tried it with Iran." Okay.

Frank Vasquez, Manvel, Texas. "If Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz and their tankers are going through it, if so, why?" They don't have tankers. You have to go through the Strate of Hormuz to the oil depots in Iran to get the oil. Iran's not sailing it out of there, and now they're blowing up ships that are, not only Iran, but Saudi Arabia, UAE. All those oil states. So, that's that.

Tom, in Colorado. "Bill, I have no doubt that no King's protests are organized and funded, but I've yet to see anyone having infiltrated the groups to prove people are actually getting paid." And you won't. They're not gonna tell you the truth. Come on. You're going to say, Yeah, I got paid? If you see a professionally made sign, they got paid. If you see buses coming in, that's what it's all about.

Glenda. "Why would you not want to bring grief to the creators of the phony video on TikTok? They deserve grief, in my opinion." I don't want to get these people hurt. If I report their names and where they are, they're going to get hurt. You would do that, Glenda? I don't think you'd do that. Not worth it. I reported the story. You know what the story is. We don't want anybody getting hurt.

Frank Rose, Hendersonville, North Carolina. "If fraudulent AI videos destroy a candidate's election results, can't the creators of the videos be prosecuted for election interference?" Maybe. There's gotta be a whole bunch of new laws. You know, if you interfere with the election by using AI, it should be a crime. But we're not there yet.

Linda Shadel, Newport, Tennessee. "Hey, Bill, you always are spot on, but I disagree with you that people are too busy to do their own research to learn the truth. They have time to be on social media as much as they are. They have to research for the truth." Well, where are you going to research the truth, Linda? Where are you going? Network news, cable news, New York Times? Where are you going to go? Here, but I can't cover everything. I mean, you can go to the library. Research for the truth is not easy anymore. And then when you get, if you Google stuff, you never know where it's coming from.

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Trump's Iran Address, Phil Zuckerman on the Decline of Religion in America, & Federal Judges vs. The Trump Administration

2026-04-01T22:00:00Z

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Talking Points Memo: Bill looks ahead to President Trump’s address tonight and what to expect on the situation in Iran.
Phil Zuckerman, Ph.D., Professor of Sociology at Pitzer College, joins the No Spin News to discuss religion in America and why fewer Americans are identifying as religious.
US District Judge Randolph Moss permanently blocks the Trump administration from ending federal funding for NPR and PBS.
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Trump's Iran Address

2026-04-01T19:59:00Z

Bill looks ahead to President Trump’s address tonight and what to expect on the situation in Iran.

The Dangers of Believing False Information

2026-04-01T17:08:00Z

Renée DiResta, Associate Research Professor at Georgetown University, joins the No Spin News to discuss the challenges of determining what’s real online and the danger this poses to democracy.

O'Reilly & Katie Pavlich on Trump's Address, Drug Abuse & More

2026-04-01T17:03:00Z

Bill joins NewsNation's Katie Pavlich to discuss President Trump, San Francisco, drug abuse, and Tiger Woods.

"HELLHOLE!" - Bill O'Reilly Responds to Defenders of San Francisco

2026-04-01T16:18:00Z

Bill O'Reilly dissects critics attacking his NewsNation special on the decline of San Francisco.

Believe It or Not

2026-04-01T16:09:00Z

We can’t see it. The enriched uranium inside Iran. Can’t watch the scientists trying to make a nuclear weapon. So, we have to accept or reject the deadly premise based upon invisible evidence. And many folks will not do that because they don’t trust the process. They believe what they want to believe. They don’t want to believe Trump or Israel.

So they don’t.

Spain and much of Europe fall into this category, as do millions of Americans. The action against Iran cannot be justified. It’s “Trump’s War.”

History really doesn’t matter to the dissenters. Yes, the Mullahs are killers, no question about that. Dead bodies in the streets can be seen. But high gas prices and economic pain override the death of strangers thousands of miles away. Right?

In the 1930’s, millions of Americans did not believe Germany was genocidal even though Hitler wrote of his intentions in a book. A solid minority of Americans did not want to help Great Britain oppose the Third Reich. Can’t see the oppression. It’s way over there.

I know the Mullahs would slaughter Jews and Americans because they said so. I don’t want to believe them, but the evidence is there. Nukes would make the job easy.

So that’s where we all are. Believe it or not.

Enjoy the Easter/Passover weekend.

San Francisco's Defenders

2026-04-01T15:21:00Z

Exposing the Internet's Deception

2026-04-01T07:06:00Z

Bill breaks down how deceiving the internet is, looking at TikTok videos featuring ICE agents that are actually scripted skits.

Doofus

2026-04-01T00:41:00Z

[doo·fus] a stupid person.

Exposing the Internet's Deception, Renée DiResta on the Dangers of Believing False Information, an Iran Update & Spain Bans U.S. Warplanes in Rebuke to Trump

2026-03-31T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to another edition of the No Spin News for Tuesday, March 31st, 2026. Stand up for your country. As everybody knows, our nation is divided, not the first time. Revolutionary War. About half of the colonists were Tories. They didn't want to separate from King George. And then we, of course, had the Civil War, where more than a million Americans were killed fighting each other, and then Vietnam, and there have been lesser divisions in this country. And we are in that age now because primarily of President Trump. There are other factors like the progressive movement, the rise of socialism, but it's President Trump that has, through, I don't know, circumstances, caused a big political division in America. We will get through this, and hopefully stronger. But it's harder to come together now because of all the massive fraud that many Americans are not even aware of, and that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. TikTok. Never been there. Know what it is, but I have more important things to do than ticking the tock or whatever you do there. But massively popular all over the world. And charlatans are using it. Here's a very good example. March 25th, just a few days ago, a... I don't know what to call them, disruptors? Maybe that's a good word. Tony and Angel. We have not traced them back, and I really don't want to bring any kind of grief upon them, although I don't respect them, posted a TikTok video about ICE. Go.

"This plane's not going anywhere, people, all right? I'm not gonna repeat myself all day. Juan Garcia, where are you? Come to the front, right now."

"You guys are allowed to take people off the plane now?"

"Yes. Absolutely, that is why I have this badge on."

"Since when?"

"What's on your badge?"

"Yeah, what's your badge say?"

"I'm here for a discussion. I'm for Mr. Garcia."

"Do you have identification? Identify yourself."

"Come on, Mr. Garcia."

Okay, right after that dropped, I got all kinds of texts from my liberal friends, see, see, see. And I said, let me check this out. It's a phony. They're actors. It's the set that they used. They had to spend some money on this. It was completely phony, no disclaimer that we could find, none. Just threw it on up. Millions of people believed it was true, including, and I mean, among my friends who texted me are journalists, sophisticated people. And then it got nasty. Roll it.

"I got arrested. I'm a U.S. citizen, and these guys want to put me away. They want to send me across the border. I was born here."

"Where were you born?"

"San Antonio, Texas."

"And you're just... Your dad was Mexican or something?"

"Yeah, my mom was. But that shouldn't matter. I was born here in the United States."

"Yeah, dude. Where's your wife?"

"They already took her."

"And she was born there, too?"

"She was born in the same place, yeah."

"You're kidding me."

"Yeah, American citizens."

"Dude, I'm sorry. I hope you can get a lawsuit or something."

"Yeah, I must take the s*** out of these people."

Okay, again, phony. Total fabrication. Was acting, and on a set, and it went all over the world. This is serious, okay? Now, YouTube, which carried some of it, they have more than two million subscribers as Tony and Angel duo, and they call themselves disruptors or whatever, you know, digital creators, digital creators. So this is serious, and the outfit that rented them the set is called Network Media. It's an industry, it's a whole industry. Somebody's behind this because it costs money. Somebody's paying for this, it's propaganda. Now, we have the specter of AI, artificial intelligence, which would make these people look like pikers? Because with artificial intelligence, you can take a human being and then insert a different face, words in the person's mouth they did not say. It's unlimited. The fraud, the potential, is unlimited. People are going to watch these videos. They are not going to know what is true and what is not true. This is dangerous, okay? Now, there's a poll by Quinnipiac out about AI, and the first question is, how concerned are you about AI? Very, somewhat, not at all. Very concerned, 38, somewhat 42, that's 80% of Americans are concerned about AI, but they won't even know it's AI, a lot of them. And 18% are not. Okay, second question. How much of the time do you think you can trust the information generated by AI? All the time, most of the time, some of the time. Almost all, and most of the time, only 21%. Some of the time, hardly ever 76%. But how are you gonna delineate that? How are you going to know what you can trust and what you can't? Unless you have a machine, like I do. I have an investigative machine. We can find out. You don't have that. Last question when it comes to day-to-day life, do you think AI will do more good than harm? More good 34, more harm 55, don't know 11. But it's coming. Now, with all of that stuff in the air, you combine it with misinformation on the already existing media, okay. Now Chris Cuomo is a friend of mine, but he's an emotional guy, and sometimes he makes mistakes, as he did last night. So this was his program. He was taking calls. Roll the tape.

"We know that you told Bill O'Reilly that you weren't a Democrat, but instead of telling us what you don't like, what's going on with Trump, what would you do? What is your answer to solving the Iran problem?"

"Okay, first of all, I'm a journalist, not an elected leader, okay? You don't hear Bill O'Reilly giving you any explanations or solutions."

You don't? Every day I do that. Every blanking day. I have your wife's a San Francisco special, which Cuomo didn't. I had absolutely given you the solution to that problem. That's therapeutic centers where these people are mandatory, you've got to take them off the street and get them well, provide for them, because what's happening now in San Francisco is barbaric. And then there were the migrants. So how do you deal with that? Well, last September, as you may remember, we had all kinds of problems in Minneapolis, where ICE was running down people suspected of being in the country illegally, and protesters were confronting them. I have a solution, and I put it forth last September 19th. Go.

"You can't have people kicking doors in, chasing people around. Can't do that. What you can do is say, to anyone in this country without documentation, you have three months. I had it originally at six, but I'd bring it down to three. You have three months, 90 days, to register with your local post office. Each post office will have a registration form. You're to fill it out. And then you send it to Homeland Security on an envelope that's already given to you. And the government pays the stamp. If you do not fill out the form, in a form, and say, who are you? What country do you come from? Where are you living? Do you have a job? Do you have dependents, children? That kind of thing. It's a questionnaire. If you don't do it within 90 days and you're caught by the authorities, local, state, or federal, you're deported without a hearing. No hearing. You're gone."

Now, if that happened, the government would have a massive database of people here illegally, and then they could adjudicate those people, give them a hearing. Right now, we just have millions of people just wandering all over the place. Is that not a solution? Of course it is. Now, Chris Cuomo didn't intentionally mislead you. I don't believe that he did. He's not that kind of guy. But he doesn't watch this program. Okay, he's talking off the top of his head. He does not watch this presentation. He doesn't know what I do. Most likely, he doesn't care. But that's okay, it's all right. But off the top of his head, well, Bill O'Reilly doesn't have any solutions, which is ridiculous. If you know me, if you watch me, you know that almost every day we put forth solutions to vexing problems here. So let's recap it. You've got stunts on TikTok and other social media paid for, phony garbage, you've got AI coming that can, electronically or whatever word you want to use, alter reality, and you have a corporate media full of misinformation. Boy, that's a threesome that is almost impossible to cut through if you want to know the truth about your country, about your life, and about solving problems. And that's the memo. Joining us now from Washington, DC, is Renee DiResta. She's an associate research professor at Georgetown University's McCourt School of Public Policy and is very interested in this information flow. Number one, am I overstating or understating that I make any mistakes in your opinion, Professor?

"No, I think what you're saying is accurate. I would say it's not just mainstream media that is wrong. I think the entire ecosystem is full of BS artists at this point, independent as well as mainstream. So I think that's the one area where I would maybe disagree. But the challenge is that people need to try to figure out what's real, and they have a huge collection of sources.".

Let me stop you there. People are busy.

"That's the problem. That's where I was going to go."

People have to make a living. People have to go to the store. They've got to try to figure out what's real and what isn't real? Nobody's going to do it. And they don't have it pointed out, they don't have a staff, I have a staff, and they're good. And I can give them Joe and Angie or whoever these people are, and chase these people down. People can't do that, regular folks.

"No, you're completely right. That is the main problem. The problem is that people trust what they see when it hits their feed because somebody that they chose to follow shared it, whether that's a friend, a media outlet, a news person like you, an influencer like Tony and Angel. And they think that it's real. People are still in the mindset that what they see is likely to be real. And we've hit a place in our technological and information environment where that's just not true anymore."

Okay, you teach younger people. Are they addicted to this kind of stuff? Do they have any skepticism about it at all? Generally speaking.

"Generally speaking, younger generations do. I have a 12-year-old son who says, nothing I see on the internet is real."

Really? Okay.

"Yeah, the younger generation knows that it's not true. It's actually more people who are still used to thinking of the media or the online environment as a place where they could get accurate information. It's usually a little bit more people who've been accustomed to that, generations that are a little older, people who still think of the internet as a place where accurate information lives. So, younger kids are actually more attuned to it than we are."

Because I got, as I mentioned, texts from journalists who thought this was real. And they were gloating, they were gloating. Oh look, O'Reilly, look at what ICE is doing, look what Homeland Security's doing, look at it, their heinous and terrible, blah, blah. And I go, let me check this out. And these are sophisticated people. Totally, totally drawn in by this fallacious presentation. Okay, let's advance the story a little bit. How much of a danger is this to our democracy, Professor?

"The danger is twofold. One, it's that as you're noting, when people do that, right, when you have journalist friends who reach out to you, it's because it hits something that they're likely to believe already. And they see evidence, and that happens across the political spectrum, right? So that might be a completely different issue that lands for people on the right than for people on the left. Right now, a lot of these ICE videos are making the rounds. You might see videos of riots, right, that would flip, that would land better with audiences on the Right that think that this is something that is, you know, more likely to be happening. So you see that happen where different content plays, and it hits you because it hits emotionally. And so you just hit that share button, you send it to your friend, and it's because you actually maybe don't even really care if it's true. It's just confirming an existing belief, and that's why you share it on. And so that's what's happening. And that's kind of dangerous to begin with, right? Because you're, we're just in these mindsets where, as you noted at the start of the segment, everybody's very polarized. And so, you don't actually care to check sometimes. You just think. This is showing my enemies or my political opponents in the worst light, so I'm going to share it."

Yeah, how right I am.

"I'm not gonna go check, yes."

But when you have, and this is certainly possible with AI, when you have the majority of voters not knowing what's real and what isn't real, I think there's trouble ahead.

"That's the second part.".

Right.

"Because sometimes what you'll see is, you know, in the incident that you showed, there's some signs there, right? There's that plane is very unbranded. It's a little bit suspiciously kind of 90s looking. Most planes don't have those cloth covers in quite that way anymore. They don't have those kind of bulkheads. But what you see now is, you know, you don't even have to have the video. You can have a very plausible leaked audio that sounds like a politician saying something, but really, it's a synthetic voice. If something like that drops 24 hours before a vote, that kind of thing can really shake people up. It can make them wonder, is this real? We've seen that happen in a number of European elections. There's nothing to stop that from happening here. And because it takes sometimes, you know, between three hours to two days to actually go in there and figure out if the content is real. Sometimes these are very, very high-quality fakes. There's that window, that time where people don't know what to believe. And if it sounds scandalous, you're going to have this environment where, again, people are going to be likely to believe it if they don't like the person, not likely to be believe it if they don't, and they're not actually going to get at the facts or the truth. And that's one of these big challenges. The other side of it, though..."

Look, you can destroy somebody pretty easily in two days, particularly if that person's running for office. You can drop all kinds of stuff that they did this, they did that, look at this video we have, look at them here, look at them there, and they're not there. Now, I don't think the law has caught up with this. US law, we're supposed to be protected against fraud. This, when it comes all down to it, professor, and please disagree if you believe that, it's fraud. This is fraud.

"The challenge you have is that what Tony and Angel would say is that this is political satire and that that's covered in the First Amendment and that's legally correct, right? And so the question that we get to is, what do you do to help people then know? When you get false information about a person, you have a little bit more in the way of law that you could apply to those situations, like defamatory content or likeness laws in certain areas. Areas where you see candidates that are subject to harassment content, where, you know, female candidates in particular are put into compromising situations, that kind of thing happens sometimes. There are certain laws that apply to that. But for political content, this is protected under the First Amendment. And so one of the things that we are trying to do as we think about how to address this problem is, can you give people more context? Can the platforms, particularly social media platforms, where this spreads, toss up a label, right? Can the models that are used to create it put up a label?"

Good luck with that.

"I know, and that's the problem, and this is the issue, though, right, you're hitting that challenge of what, you know, and I'm the first person to tell you that labeling is not foolproof, that bad actors can strip it out, that it doesn't work in the case of audio."

But there's just too much of it.

"It is, and that is the other thing, it's the deluge, I wish, you know, look, I sound like I'm making an excuse for the tech companies here, I'm really not. Nobody's more frustrated than me. It is that balance, you were right, the law has not caught up, this is the environment we live in now. The other side of it though, is that you have real content, real audio, sometimes politicians do get caught saying dumb things on tape, right, and then they can just say, no no no, that's not me, that is AI, and that's the other side of it, right? So you have this liar's dividend."

But that's a- that's not nearly what-

"It is happening. That is happening also."

The assertion that there is a villain way overwhelms everything else. I mean...

"Yes, that's true."

These nitwits who put this out wanted, I don't care what they say, it's satire, whatever. They wanted a conclusion.

"They make a lot of money."

Well, I don't know about money, but they wanted a conclusion that ICE and Homeland Security were bad, were abusers. That's what they wanted, and they accomplished it.

"The political piece, you're right, is true, but the other side of it is that a lot of this is financially motivated. We focused on the political here, but a lot of the ways that this applies that people need to be aware of is spam and scams. It is people reaching out, particularly to older people, saying, hey, it looks like a beautiful woman reaching out in a message. That person doesn't exist. They're trying to sell you a product. That product doesn't exist. A vacation home or a stay. That house doesn't exist, right? So it's actually financial fraud and scams that are where most of the AI-generated content is happening. In the political realm, you're seeing the skits, the satire, the detectionization."

But you can get prosecuted for that.

"And for the yes for the financial stuff, yes, absolutely, you can, so I think you know last...thanks, thanks for having me on."

No, you were very good. Thanks for taking the time. Okay the U.N. says that slavery is the greatest, gravest, I should say, crime against humanity ever. Gravest crime against humanity. It was a vote, an actual vote in the UN, New York City. 123 nations voted in favor, USA, Israel and Argentina deferred. 52 countries abstained UK, European Union. Now, this was put forth by the African Union and Caribbean communities, countries, to try to get the reparations movement up and running. That's what this is all about. Okay, you've got to be careful here. I mean, the knee jerk is reparations are bad and da da da, but there are points. And if you read my book, Confronting Evil, you'll see how heinous, how awful the slave traders in the USA. It was awful. And that legacy continues to exist because families were destroyed. People didn't have opportunities in education. They had to move. There was a war fought. I mean, it was on and on. So that's real. But now there are countries that want money. Where do you think that money is going? Sorry to be cynical, but I know where it's going. On the other hand, slavery was not the gravest crime against humanity. And I'm sorry, and I know I'll get accused of being a racist, but World War I, for example, 16 million dead, 21 million injured, 14 million displaced, World War 1. World War II. 80 million dead, 25 million injured, 55 million displaced. Now I go with the higher number because a lot of that couldn't be tracked. And it's always the higher numbers.

Now, these wars were the worst things that have ever happened on this planet by far. And if there's ever a nuclear attack, which is what we're dealing with now in Iran, that'll be far and away. So my question to the UN is why now, why when the United States and Israel are trying to prevent a country, Iran, from developing a nuclear weapon, would you drop this? Why couldn't you wait? Isn't preventing a nuclear weapon? That would be the most catastrophic thing that ever happened on the planet. So, there's all kinds of political things. I don't have any respect for the United Nations at all, with one exception, UNICEF, the children's part of it. They do a lot of good. The rest of it, they could fall into the East river, for all I care, because there's always an agenda. But interesting story, particularly the timing of it.

Americans on the move. The biggest county in our country is LA County. Los Angeles City is the second biggest, next to New York, but the county is humongous. And it has the largest decline of people moving out, according to the new census data. And they're moving out because if you go, and I was there recently in Los Angeles, it's not as bad as San Francisco, but it's not far away. It's just chaos. The whole county, traffic, crime, pollution, waste of taxpayer dollars, you name it, run by incompetent idiots, Karen Bass, my god. Okay? So they're leaving. And the Wall Street Journal had a study, their own, that says that high tax states are losing an enormous amount of income. They are. California, 12 billion dollars because people have moved out. New York, 10 billion, Illinois, 6, Massachusetts, 4, New Jersey, 3, Maryland, 2, Minnesota, 1.5. And all these states have one thing in common. They're run by far-left people. And they want to take money from the prosperous. And the prosperous say, We're going to move to Florida or Tennessee or Texas. They don't have a state income tax. They're not going to gut us when we die. Mamdani, this is how bad it is in New York. When I die, well, I'm not in New York City, but say I'm only about 12 miles away from the border. So say I was, Mamdani wants everything. So my children, my heirs, my charitable foundation, nothing. He wants everything. That's communism. And it's just, I mean, I'm looking at this going, this is so crazy. Four highest tax states: California, New York, Minnesota. Minnesota, 11 million people, what are you taxing those people up to their eyebrows for? For what? And Illinois, which has the worst governor in the country.

All right, Iran latest. So, Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, said that Iran still has the capacity to do some damage. Okay, that's not a bulletin. Pretty much everybody knew that. It's a big country. If you look at the map, most Americans couldn't find it on a map, but it's a big country, 90 million people, and they can hide weapons. So okay, but their offensive capacity has been severely downgraded. Now the United States is going to fly B-52s, those are the big, destructive bombers. And you know, look, you can't bomb Tehran and kill civilians. That would not be what you want to do, okay? But you can wipe out a lot of military installations with B- 52s. And then, Trump is really angry at Europe, and he continues to vent on social media about how bad they are over there, and they're pretty bad. Spain's the worst, so I've been all over Spain, beautiful country, really interesting. I'll never go again, never, unless I'm forced to go for some, you know, journalistic reason. So Spain is being so obnoxious. Number one, doesn't pay its NATO dues to the extent that it has been mandated. All the other NATO countries are, thanks to Trump, paying their dues, not Spain. Number two, the defense minister Margarito Robles says, We're not going to let the United States stop in Spain to refuel the planes or cooperate in any way. Roll it.

"From the very beginning, it was made very clear to the American army and to the American forces. Therefore, neither the bases, nor, of course, the use of Spanish airspace for actions that will have to do with the war in Iran will be authorized today. Obviously, the bases are there; other actions can be carried out, but Spain will definitely and clearly not authorize, nor has it done so, nor will it do so, the use of the bases of the Rota and Moron to wage a war against which we are totally opposed, which we do not believe in, which we consider profoundly illegal and so profoundly unjust."

So it's unjust to try to stop the mullahs from getting a nuclear weapon, according to this one. Now you can't, I looked into this, you can throw Spain out of NATO, there has to be a vote. So I'm not going there. Sorry, I know a lot of people who love Spain and, not me. Over. Unintended consequences of the Iranian action. Fuel prices going through the roof. So you're gonna pay more if you want to hop on a plane. All the American airline companies are jacking up their prices like crazy because the jet fuel. Obviously, average at the pump, you're pumping your gas, a buck up. It's painful. It is absolutely painful, but that doesn't mean you surrender. So that's the thing, I mean, we are selfish people. Come on, be honest. We're a selfish society here. And Europe's worse. China's not selfish. They'll sacrifice anything to get what they want.

Lines at the airport dropping, and that you know, Trump did a good thing, and well, we're paying him out of another fund, and so today, in Houston Hobby, the worst it's down to a few minutes from four hours, so good. And in Florida, Governor DeSantis, has signed legislation yesterday to rename Palm Beach International Airport, President Trump International Airport. This goes into effect July 1. I don't know if this is necessary. It's gonna cost Floridians five and a half million dollars to make the switch. Gotta change the signs and stuff, and I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Smart Life, now this is an important smart life segment. So a study by the University of Michigan, a five-year study, it tracked younger people who use substances, pot, booze, and I guess hard drugs as well, and cigarettes. So if you use all that stuff in your 20s, when you get to your 60s, you're likely to have memory loss. Okay, people who are addicted to all of those substances, and you can get addicted to pot, they even have a marijuana disorder or syndrome or something, it's even named now. So in a few decades, you're gonna be a loon. You're not gonna remember anything, according to the study. Okay. Is this a bulletin? Not for me. Now, the Smart Life component. So I have never been intoxicated in my life, ever. And I am at a certain age, you can look it up. I can outgun, figuratively speaking, people who are 40 years younger than me. They can't beat me. Mental acuity, cannot beat me, and you know it, you see it. And I attribute that to sobriety, that I was always a person who lived in the real world. Never, I never smoked, no pot, no booze. Yeah, I tasted my father's beer, and once in a while, my mother would have a glass of wine, and I never liked it. And my friends who get loaded, their behavior to me is boring. Some people think if they get high or whatever, they're more charming. They're not, you're not. Okay, you're dull because your thinking process is skewed. That's my opinion. Now I was in college in the middle of the Vietnam thing when everybody was stoned but me, and a few other guys, but believe me, it was crazy how much dope there was on the campus. And everybody was having a party, and, hey, hey, hey, I never did it.

Now, why didn't I do it? Well, number one, in my family, there is a propensity for addiction. So I've lost cousins. My maternal grandfather is a big boozer, and he died of liver disease. I saw it. And I went, Ooh, this is not good. Number two, as I mentioned, socially, it was just not appealing. When you're out with somebody, and they're throwing up in the bushes, you know, so, Smart Life. I don't recommend my course to you, I'm not a moralizer, you want to have some drinks, you want to have some beers. My crew, and we've got a big crew going to Ireland in May. I think I'm the only one that doesn't imbibe, not to the extent that they're drunk, but they all like a libation. I think I'm the one, maybe there's one or two. But, and I don't say, I don't judge anyone. As long as you're not sloppy drunk, if you're sloppy drunk, we're going to leave you in the bog, and they know that. So you're going to wake up, and there's going to be five sheep over you. We're not taking you back. But that's not why I'm doing a smart life. But if you are smart and I pass this on to my urchins, you'll stay away from that. Final thing. I told my son, because I do not drink in particular or buy drugs, and I would never buy drugs because it's so unpatriotic, because you're helping the people who are hurting our country. I think I've saved a million dollars over my lifetime span by not boozing. You know what cocktails are now? They're 20 bucks, $18 for a stupid cocktail. So I said, you know, if you want to accumulate a little money, drink the Perrier water. Smart Life. This Day in History, March 31, 1968, LBJ announces he will not seek re-election 58 years ago today. One of the worst presidents in modern times. Roll the tape.

"With American sons in the field far away. With America's future under challenge right here at home, with our hopes and the world's hopes for peace and the balance every day, I do not believe that I should devote an hour or a day of my time to any personal partisan causes, or to any duties other than the awesome duties of this office, the Presidency of your country. Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your President."

Because he knew he was gonna get waxed because he booted the Vietnam War and wasn't honest about it. Okay, awful. It was terrible. 55,000 dead and more than that. When you count the Agent Orange and all that stuff and you Vietnam vets, you know what I'm talking about. It was chaos over there. And there was Johnson, Johnson's Commander in Chief. So Nixon waxed the Democrat, came after him, Humphrey, and if you read Confronting the Presidents, you'll see how bad, and I mean bad, this guy was a bad guy, Lyndon Johnson. He gets a pass because of all the civil rights legislation. But boy, was he a terrible president. Okay, we got a big mail segment and then a final thought. Back in a moment.

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Mary Jane. "I passed a no-kings protest on Saturday. People had the vulgar signs, President Trump's name on them, disgraceful. My opinion, it was an opportunity to let the president know they hate him." Yeah, I can't argue with that.

Wayne, Concierge Member. Wayne gets direct access to me if Wayne gets into any trouble. "This wasn't even about Trump. It's simply anti-capitalist, just communists using that as an excuse to dupe people into supporting them." The communist element is 20%. So they don't like Trump, those protesters.

Tony Bussieri, Cyprus, Texas. "Watching the clips of no kings, deeply disturbing, especially seeing communist flags on American soil." There is a, you know, a burgeoning movement of socialism and communism in this country. No doubt about it.

Jeff Ziskin Deluthersville, Maryland. "I'm concerned that although the U.S. has accomplished major destruction of Iran's military power, where are all the missiles and drones they are launching coming from?" From Iran. It's huge. You can't get every one of them. Be realistic here, live in the real world.

Peter Lyon, Seagirt, New Jersey. "Who decides to put the Senate in recess? The president could make recess appointments." No, he couldn't. The president has nothing to do with the legislative branch. He's the executive branch, three branches of government, Peter. The Speaker of the House decides in the House, and the Senate Majority Leader decides in the Senate. Trump doesn't have any sway over Congress. That's the way our Constitution is.

Bob Leske, Southington, Ohio. "I have a question, and I hope it isn't too stupid." No, no questions are stupid. "You say if Republicans don't win the midterms, President Trump will be a lame duck. Seems to me, even though Republicans have both houses, nothing is being done now." So I guess you're going to get back your tax refund, not going back.

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Exposing the Internet's Deception, Renée DiResta on the Dangers of Believing False Information, an Iran Update & Spain Bans U.S. Warplanes in Rebuke to Trump

2026-03-31T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, March 31, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks down how deceiving the internet is, looking at TikTok videos featuring ICE agents that are actually scripted skits.
Renée DiResta, Associate Research Professor at Georgetown University, joins the No Spin News to discuss the challenges of determining what’s real online and the danger this poses to democracy.
The UN General Assembly has voted to classify the transatlantic slave trade as the gravest crime against humanity. Why now?
High‑tax states are losing significant income, with Los Angeles County seeing the largest population decline of any U.S. county in 2025.
The latest updates on Iran, including B-52 bombers flying missions over Iran and Spain closing its airspace to U.S. warplanes.
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O'Reilly & Mark Simone on the Democrats' Dilemma

2026-03-31T19:41:00Z

Bill joins radio host Mark Simone and challenges the Democratic Party to offer something beyond hatred of Donald Trump. He contends that the Democrats are not offering genuine solutions to the major issue facing America and the world.

Joe Abraham on His Daughter's Murder by an Illegal Migrant

2026-03-31T16:10:00Z

Joe Abraham joins the No Spin News to share his story of losing his 20-year-old daughter in a drunk-driving hit-and-run by a Guatemalan citizen who was in the U.S. illegally.

Mike Baker on the Iran Reality

2026-03-31T16:09:00Z

Former CIA covert operations officer and Host of the Presidents Daily Brief podcast, Mike Baker discusses Iran, whether it is close to building a nuclear bomb, and why Europe isn’t aligned with the United States.

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NO KINGS SEQUEL: Hating Trump and No Solutions

2026-03-31T16:07:00Z

Bill breaks down this past weekend’s ‘No Kings’ protests around the country.

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O'Reilly on Vittert on Iran, Trump, and Media Coverage

2026-03-31T16:01:00Z

Bill joins Leland Vittert on NewsNation to discuss the possibility of a military draft, Iran, and the current outlook.

O'Reilly on the Finances Behind 'No Kings' with 'Cats & Cosby'

2026-03-31T15:04:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Rita Cosby and John Catsimatidis and reports on the billionaires funding the ‘No Kings’ rallies across the nation. Bill challenges the marchers to provide some actual solutions to problems facing the USA and the world.

The Pope's War Stance

2026-03-31T13:55:00Z

Pope Leo is a good man, a peacemaker, a person who teaches compassion and respect for human dignity.

But His Holiness is also not a fact-based theologian.

According to the group “Minority Rights”, Iran is among the top ten countries in the world that persecute Christians. Not that there are many of them there - perhaps 300,000 out of a population of 90 million. The Iranian government considers followers of Christ to be “infidels.” They are closely scrutinized and sometimes harmed.

Exactly who is coming to their aid? That would be America.

Yet the Pope is clear in his disdain for the war in Iran. He says Jesus rejects those with “blood on their hands.” Yet I, as a loyal Catholic, believe the Nazarene would honor those who protect the persecuted.

Would I be wrong?

Over to you, Pope Leo.

Hitler and Mao murdered hundreds of thousands of Christian clergy. The allies had to wage war to stop that madness. Blood flowed. My book “Confronting Evil” documents that.

Something we all should think about. Sometimes justice requires force.

See you this evening for the No Spin News.

Nudnik

2026-03-31T01:39:00Z

[nud·nik] a pestering, nagging, or irritating person; a bore.

NO KINGS SEQUEL: Hating Trump and No Solutions, Mike Baker on the Iran Reality, the Pope's Anti-War Message & Joe Abraham on His Daughter's Murder by an Illegal Migrant

2026-03-30T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Monday, March 30th, 2026. Stand up for your country. So, two major stories in play. No Kings and the action in Iran. Both are not being reported accurately. No surprise. So let's do that. We'll begin with Kings. That is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. Okay. So an estimated 3,300 separate protests around the USA on Saturday. We don't have the data because it only comes from the No Kings Coalition. They're going to put out whatever they want. So just take this with skepticism. Fox is reporting that about 500 groups, with an estimated three billion dollars in combined annual revenue, is behind the coordinated No Kings protest. I think that's about right. Some of the groups are Indivisible. That's based in St. Paul, Minnesota, which was the nexus of the No Kings protests. Open Society Foundation, George Soros, People's Forum, that's Singham, the Chinese guy we've been telling you about. The Party for Socialism and Liberation in D.C., Freedom Road, Socialist Organization, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Code Pink. So they're all far, far left groups. This isn't an organic mainstream protest that we saw in Vietnam, for example. These are activists, progressive activists, and they're very, very well- Okay, millions, tens of millions of dollars pouring in there to get people organized to get them out on the streets. But it's not unusual. And this is the missing piece. So 75 million Americans voted against Donald Trump in his second term, 75 million. That's a lot of folks. And they weren't voting, most of them, for Kamala Harris, who never demonstrated any kind of acumen at all or problem solvability. They were voting against Donald Trump. They don't like him. So to get a few million people out on the street with 75 million didn't want him in the first place, that's not a big deal. But again, it was well coordinated, and the pictures were there, so television picks it up. Now, there was actual glee on the part of the left-wing media. Roll the tape.

"Organizers say at least 8 million people showed up, and then on the right side of your screen, you have CPAC. Womp womp. Notice a difference? Which crowd do you think Trump wishes he were a part of?"

Okay, lady, I mean, again, why anybody would watch this kind of propaganda, I have no idea. Not many do, but I'm just stunned anybody does. So my question is, all right, you've got no kings, and I don't object to that. I think dissent is good, you don't like Donald Trump, okay. You want to show your displeasure, fine. That's what the United States is built upon, protest, as long as you do it peacefully. And most of them were peaceful, except for the hardcore communists in LA, Portland, New York City. And these are anarchists. These wanna blow up the whole system. But most people were reasonable out there, and I have no beef with them. But my question is, what are you protesting for? So, we know you hate Trump. But what's your problem-solving ability? Here is the key. Let's just run down a few. So what would the no-kings protesters do about Iran trying to get a nuclear weapon? Simple question, what would they do? I would assume nothing, but that's just an assumption. I haven't heard one solution from any of those protesters about Iran trying to get a nuclear weapon. Number two, what would they do about immigration enforcement? So how many times, and we'll tell you later on this broadcast, another horrible, horrible crime committed by a foreign national who is in this country illegally, well, what would the no protest, the no king's protesters do about these people when they don't want any enforcement from ICE at all? No access. What would you do? How would you stop those kinds of crimes from being committed by people who shouldn't be in the country? Nothing comes forth. What would you do about the war in Ukraine? You got a plan? How would you handle Putin? I don't know. Do you know? If you know, Bill@BillOReilly.com, Bill@BillOReilly.com.

Two more. Food prices. What would the No Kings protesters do about bringing down the price of food? What? And finally, health insurance premiums. Now there, there is a solution, socialized medicine. The government runs everything. Government dictates who you can see as a doctor, what you get as far as treatment, and how much the treatment costs. That's what these protesters want. So one out of five, they have a solution too. But generally speaking, all this is venting. Venting, venting. We don't like Trump. We don't know how to solve the complicated problems, but we're not really interested in doing that. We just don't want him. No kings. And that's the memo. All right, let's switch over to Iran. U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that there are fractures within the Iranian government, whatever that is. Nobody knows what that is. But, apparently, according to Rubio, some Iranian leaders, I guess, want to make a deal with the USA, and others don't. Always going to have that. The hardliners, they're never going to give up, okay? So that's what the US is dealing with. Apparently, there are some talks going on, but it's very, very murky. I just don't know, and I have very good contacts, as you know. I don't know where this thing is right now. The president continues to make threats to Iran, and now troops, 10,000 US troops are going to the Middle East. Now, this has been misreported like crazy. So the 10,000 troops are there to do what they call missions. Some of them are humanitarian missions. Okay, some of them are targeted military missions where there's a certain strategy that has to be employed, it can only be employed on the ground. There's no occupation, because that failed so dismally in Iraq, and to some extent in Afghanistan, although not nearly as bad there.

So the United States people are not going to accept an occupation of Iran. Our soldiers are not gonna go in and then set up camps to regulate what happens. That's not happening. What they may do, and this is certainly not confirmed by anybody because it would be top secret, is they might do missions. Now that has not been reported at all. It's the usual hysteria. I don't even think these press people are smart enough to know the difference between an occupation and a mission. And they certainly don't care. So the casualty count remains fairly low. 13 US service members have been killed. Mostly in accidental stuff, nobody's been shot out of the sky or anything like that. In Iran, the Red Crescent, which is their propaganda arm, says 2,000 people have been killed but nobody knows. Lebanon says about 1,300 people have be killed but no one knows, on and on and on. Israel, which is fairly accurate in its reporting, says 19 civilians, Israelis have been killed since the action began February 28th. So obviously you don't want anybody getting hurt or killed, but it's very, very low. So this really isn't a war. This is an action, a military action. More ships carrying oil or getting out of the Strait of Hormuz. It's a good thing, I suspect that if the Iranians don't come to the table this week, that U.S. Troops are going to have to do something in the Strait of Hormuz. But I don't know. It's a guess. Joining us now is a guy you may know, Mike Baker, who was a CIA covert guy for about 16 years. And he now hosts the President's Daily Brief, which is a podcast, well worth your time. And he knows the turf over there. Am I missing anything here, Mr. Baker? Should I be emphasizing some fact in the theater that I'm not, that I am missing?

"No, I mean, I think you've hit the key points. One is using the word murky when we're talking about the potential for negotiations or discussions. This is a textbook example of mixed messaging, both from the US, from Iran, and also from potential mediators. The Pakistanis have been very aggressive in trying to position themselves as the mediators for this. And they're all saying different things. President Trump in the course of one truth social post said that you know we're having talks productive, deal close, and then in the same post, but if you don't you know, we're coming after you. We're going to obliterate you. And so the Iranians are saying there's no talks going on, and you know, the mediators are saying well, we're very hopeful about potential peace negotiations, so it's no wonder that the population is incredibly confused. As far as the operational side of this, I think you hit the high points here, which is that they are not talking about a long-term occupation. We went into Iraq in 2003 with over 150,000 troops to engage in that conflict. We knew we were talking about long- term operation. We've got two Marine Expeditionary Units. We've some elements of the 82nd Airborne out deployed now in theater for the Iran conflict. So, the likely scenario if there's not some miracle of negotiations, is that those elements will likely be used, as you pointed out, for these quick, specific, targeted missions, now possibly seizing and destroying infrastructure on a handful of the islands that the Iranians used to help control the Strait. I don't think we're talking about any sort of long-term occupation of Card Island. That would be a real problem. And politically, I think the White House certainly is smart enough to understand that nobody is in the mood for a long- term occupation here."

What it looks to me like is the Iranians, whoever they may be in charge, I don't even know if there is anybody in charge, want to wear us down economically, and believe that the U.S. Press, which is true, is against the action, and then that will drive public opinion about President Trump down, and maybe ignite inflation here. And then worldwide, we already saw Europe not supporting the action at all. And then Iran's hoping that China and Russia will come in on their side. So it's a waiting game for them. The longer this lasts, the better it is for Iran, correct?

"Yes. And I think the one part of this that was clear at the beginning of this conflict was that it would come down to the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranian regime has used that before as a weapon. They've always threatened it as a weapon. And so it was clear that they had no other leverage, really, to speak of in terms of influencing the international community. So, of course, it was always going to come down to them creating the chaos and attempting to blockade and affect the Strait, and doing what is now currently happening, right? You know, paying a lot more at the pump as far as the voters in the US and in the EU are concerned. So yeah, that was a given. The Russians and Chinese, you know what? They are helping. I think there's almost no possibility that they're not providing targeting data. In terms of satellite imagery, assistance on the intelligence side in terms of movement of US personnel and assets, the Iranians had had a quick series of strikes, the Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi, and targeted and destroyed some aircraft, injured a dozen US service members. And that ability was enabled. You know, almost, I would put my salary on it by either Chinese or Russian or both, assistance in terms of targeting to make their strikes more lethal."

But they don't have many weapons left, I understand, in Iran. I mean, we've downgraded them to the sense that their ordinance is very low. Is that true?

"Yes, we degraded their military capabilities significantly, their stockpiles of missiles, their launchers. From the Israeli perspective, the missile program was more of a threat in the short and mid-term than the nuclear program. So from a metric, from an operational metric, if you look and say, are we winning this thing? Can we declare victory? Well, yes, from an operational perspective, we can, because we have had significant success in degrading their abilities, and also their manufacturing facilities for these munitions. So from that metric, yes. From the metric of it, if you went into this and said, well, we want a better government in Iran for the betterment of the Iranian people and peace and stability in the region, which frankly all the regional actors, the Saudis and others, would like to see, then that's a little bit mixed. That's not quite the victory that we'd..."

Yeah, we haven't seen that. Do you believe that the Iranians are close to enriching enough uranium to build a bomb? Do you believe that?

"Yeah, I believe, look, once you're at 60% and by all accounts, by a lot of different measures, they were stockpiling 60% enriched uranium. There is no civilian or peaceful need for anything really above 5%."

So if that's true, and Lindsey Graham on my podcast absolutely walked us through that, why wouldn't Europe then be on our side, saying we just can't afford to have a theocracy that hates infidels be able to build a low-level bomb that can blow up Paris? Why wouldn't the European countries support us?

"Well, I think in part for the same reason, the Gulf states wanted just stability and no issues, and they want to just keep kicking the can down the road.”

But there are issues.

"Yeah, I know there are, but look, every administration in the U.S. has kicked this can down the road, right? Just thinking, okay, we'll put it on somebody else's plate. And so I think there was a strong tendency in the EU and in the Gulf States to say, oh, you know, we get it, we don't like the Iranian regime, we don't want it, and we understand there's a threat here, but... You know, let somebody else deal with it."

Yeah, but somebody else in four weeks. I mean, we were talking about a very short period of time where the uranium could be melded into a bomb. See, I don't get it in the sense that, and I'm going to deal with the pope in a few minutes. All right. So yeah, nobody likes this, and this is wrong. Nobody wants people to die. But when you have a potential where 10,000 more people would die. Aren't you, you know, morally compelled to deal with that rather than look the other way as millions of Americans are doing, millions, and almost all of the NATO countries are doing? They just don't want to get involved.

"They don't want to get involved. They want somebody else to deal with it. And in this case, the U.S."

They don't want us to deal with it. We're somebody else, but they don't want us to deal with it.

"Yeah, there's good reporting that said, you know, MBS and Saudis have been pushing the White House to continue the fight, right? Let's get rid of this regime."

There's very, very, few, though, and that's an economic-based thing. Last question for you. So looking ahead, President Trump's got to worry about midterm elections, or he loses an enormous amount of power if the Democrats take control of Congress. And how big a factor is that going to be? And again, the Iranians know that, in his trying to at least come to some conclusion here.

"Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. The Iranians... Look, the... Particularly the political side of that, where you've got the politicians, you've got theocracy, you've got the mullahs, and you've gotta the military, the IRGC primarily. Frankly, the IRGC has cemented their position as the top dog within Iran at this point, but those elements are sophisticated enough to have read the tea leaves here. They understand that politics drive everything in Washington, so you're absolutely right, which is why when that gas price rises, and you're spending over $100 to fill up your truck, right, when people start hearing this boots on the ground concept, which immediately leads people to think, oh, we're talking long-term occupation. There's a potential for the Republicans to have their butts handed to them in the midterm election. The White House knows that. And so I think that's why we're seeing these mixed messages about, well, we've got these negotiations going on. We're having some productive talks, but if they don't work, we're gonna obliterate the infrastructure. I think that's why you're seeing the White House work hard to try to get this message out that they are having discussions, because they're trying to keep that narrative in mind that this is not going to be a long-term conflict."

I don't know if the Iranians are gonna do it. I wish I did. Mr. Baker, thanks very much. We appreciate it. The Pope. So, you know, I'm a loyal Catholic, and I respect the Pope. I wrote a message of the day tomorrow on BillOReilly.com. It's free. Just wake up, punch up BillOReilly.com, and it'll be there. I think the Pope's a good man. But I'm very confused about his leadership of my church. Roll the tape.

"Brothers and sisters, this is our God, Jesus, King of Peace, who rejects war, whom no one can use to justify war. He does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war, but rejects them, saying, even though you make many prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood."

Okay, but whose hands are full of blood? The Iranians have killed tens of thousands of their own people, hundreds of thousands over the years, when you look at Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, all the terror that Iran has funded and armed, and the nuke threat. So who's got blood on their hands, Your Holiness? And you know, when you go back into history, and I get into this in the message, so you got Hitler, you got Mao, you've got Stalin, and I write all about this in Confronting Evil, that wiped out hundreds of thousands of Catholic clerics, Christian clerics, Russian Orthodox. Killed them. Slaughtered them. Hitler could have been taken out early. I'm not getting the lack of historical perspective by the Pope. Maybe you are, and it's Holy weak, and I don't want to be disrespectful, but I think that the questions have to be raised. Again, that's my message tomorrow on BillOReilly.com.

Let's go to the airport, some relief. And it looks like the TSA workers are gonna start getting paid today. It's thanks to President Trump, because the senators and the congresspeople took off for two weeks without solving this. They're great, aren't they? Meanwhile, people wait three hours to get on a plane. And so Trump said, no, we're going to pay them, find the money, and that should alleviate things. I don't know how quickly. Nobody does. In LaGuardia, which is 15 miles from my house, LaGuardia, New York, 90 minutes this morning, I checked it, waiting to get through security. So at least something's being done there. We went over and over this. Democratic party put forth very unrealistic terms to pay the TSA workers, and Republicans said we can't do this because you want to ice ICE. Ice ice baby, you don't want any enforcement. And that's absolutely true, 100% true. The Democratic Party does not want any enforcement on people here illegally. I could run down the how many delays and all that, but you know what the story is.

Okay, so in New York City, a guy named Judge Michael Hartofilis Queens Criminal Court, releases a guy who allegedly assaulted a first responder, that means a cop or a fireman, a fire person, okay? So the guy was arrested, and his name is Leon. David León, Ecuadorian. He's a member of the Latin Kings gang. He's got priors. One of them is a, you know, child neglect and all that. The judge releases him, releases him into the wind. ICE grabbed him. ICE got tipped, I'm sure, by NYPD. And they were waiting for him when he got, the judge let him out of the courtroom. It shows you what Mamdani and his crew, they didn't want to hold him. All they had to do was hold him until ICE showed up. No. We're gonna let him go so he can commit more crimes. This is so appalling to me, it's so disgraceful. I don't have the words.

On January 19, 2025, a little more than a year ago, Katie Abraham, Glenview, Illinois, was killed by a drunk driver, Julio Cucul-Bol, Guatemalan, here illegally. 20 years old, she's killed. And the guy shouldn't have been here, running around, and all of that. Her father, last week, testified before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, and Joe Abraham joins us now from Illinois. Mr. Abraham, obviously, everybody watching this broadcast, and most people in this country, feel very deeply, very sympathetically about what happened to your 20-year-old daughter. What did you tell the subcommittee? What was the headline that you brought in?

"If you just nail it to a headline, this is a preventable tragedy, another preventable victim, that if we had some type of rational policies, would have been avoided. That's really what it comes down to, is we don't have to be radical and extreme in everything we do, right? So take an example, they're saying, oh, this is extreme and radical, what ICE is doing. But what happened during the Biden and Mayorkas years? Was that not extremely radical? It seems to me that you can't have it both ways."

When you delivered the message, the sanctuary cities that protect these aliens, as we just mentioned in New York, lead to more horror, violence, and devastation in families like yours. Were you watching the reaction of the people on a subcommittee? Do you feel they were sympathetic to you, these politicians?

"I would say for the most part, they were not. So the Republican side seemed to be, you know, sort of on board, right? On the Democratic side, I'm just gonna focus on my Senator. Senator Dick Durbin was sitting there. And Bill, and this has really been about 14 months, haven't heard a word from Governor Pritzker, Senator Durbin, Senator Duckworth, nothing. So our top state leaders ignored this whole thing. So as I was telling Katie's story, Senator Durbin was disinterested very clearly."

Give me an example of that. Now, he made a statement about the guy who was arrested for shoplifting in the past, and they let him out so he could run around and kill your daughter. But how did you pick up that Durbin himself was not interested?

"Durbin was talking about Sheridan Gorman, about the guy being picked up for a shoplifting, and that was her killer. My killer was Julio Cucul-Bol, who was a Guatemalan national using a Mexican national alias in Illinois. And by the way, not a moral judgment, but he had HIV, and he had HIV within our communities. Was he as reckless with his HIV as he was behind the wheel? He had multiple partners. I suspect he was just as reckless. But why I say Senator Durbin was not interested in Katie's story, my story, is not once did he make eye contact with me, not once that he address me, and not once did he acknowledge Katie's life or death. He was, again, very disinterested as I was laid out in my story."

Did he ask you any questions? Did he?

"No, no, he didn't even look at me. Not one word to me, didn't even look at me. No, no."

And you ascribe that to what? He's playing to his far left base?

"You know, you tell me, Bill, what type of humanity does that show? For example, there were Democratic senators that took the time to acknowledge Katie's life. I don't agree with them in policy. We actually spoke with some of them after the hearing, not with Senator Durbin. He left. But some of the other Democratic senators we spoke to, we don't have to agree on everything. I didn't agree on their policies, but they showed some humanity, and they showed some compassion. And it's okay that we disagree on things, we were able to talk through some of that."

Did they say anything that they were going to do anything about it? Were they encouraging in that regard?

"I got the sense that we just disagreed. I don't think the democratic side will do anything. At the end of the day, I think they will continue to ignore and try to erase sort of these inconvenient stories. Certainly, here in Illinois, they've tried to do that along with the complicit media. That is, they're sort of tethered to J.B. Pritzker for the access and for his money. They certainly are not interested in our stories."

Did the media, the local media in Illinois, did they cover Katie's story?

"Yeah, I think when it initially happened, you had some coverage there. I'm not saying they didn't cover it. They covered it more of a personal story. They did not talk about the radical policies. There are no guardrails. Our compassionate leaders, they talk about, failed, not only Katie, but they failed Julio Cucul-Bol. The court said he's illiterate, English, Spanish, doesn't know anything, can't read or write it. He speaks some kai chi language out of the mountainous regions of Did they help him with employment, language, his HIV health screening? Illinois did nothing. They left him in the state aimlessly to wander, do what he wants, use this state as a playground and an ATM machine. They did nothing to help him. They are not compassionate, caring people. They're just not. And I don't care how many times you can go out there and say it. To me, your actions are speaking louder than your words. You have shown zero compassion toward Katie, and you didn't help this guy either. And both one is in the grave, and one's in prison, hopefully for decades."

Final question. Did you, are you losing faith in your country? Because there is a political party that, by and large, supports no action against undocumented people who may be dangerous. Are you losing faith in America?

"Well, I'll promise you this, unless something changes. I mean, I've lost faith in Illinois, for sure. So I'm in this position where I've got to decide, do I stay in Illinois, my lifelong home, or do I have to find a more rational, reasonable place to live? I think it's unfortunate and disheartening that I have to try to make that decision, but this state should not be run as a one-party state. It's really, you know, they have that term, it's not broken, they fixed it. And I've always known Illinois, lived here all my life, Cook County, the most corrupt state and county I've, I think, in the country. But they've always had some guardrails, like the old school guys had guardrails. If kids were dying, they were gonna do something. But you know this new regime now, they don't care whose kids are dying as long as, and let me, again, as a lifelong Illinois and Cook County resident, I suspect warm bodies have some ballots tied to them. They also need congressional apportionment. This is all political power. Katie died on the altar of the state leaders' political power, period. It doesn't explain, it wouldn't explain how JB Pritzker runs to Minnesota to honor two people that put themselves in a very precarious position, versus Katie, who he's never said her name, was just an innocent victim in the streets of Urbana, Illinois, in the flagship college town of Illinois."

Well, Mr. Abraham, you're doing right by your daughter. I mean, you can take that as solace. I know you can't, it'll never override the pain that you and your family have gone through, but you're a good dad, and you're doing what you should do. And it's disheartening. That's the only word you can use. And I think Pritzker's the worst governor in the country, I've said it many times.

"He doesn't care about anybody here, Bill. He does not care about the citizens of this state."

He's an awful human being. He absolutely is. All right, Mr. Abraham, if there's anything we can do for you and your family, you'll let us know, okay?

"Thanks so much. Appreciate it, Bill."

Smart Life State Department has updated places you can't go, or you shouldn't go, because you'll get hurt if you do go. Iran, obviously Afghanistan, Belarus, a bunch of African countries, Haiti. Haiti, you can go there. Myanmar, Russia's on the list. You can get hurt in Russia, nobody's gonna help you. And Ukraine, obviously in the middle of the war. And then a bunch of Arab countries that are rife with terrorism. So I get letters once in a while, should I go here, should you go there? Most of the world is safe, but I put Mexico on that list because if you get in trouble in Mexico, nobody's going to help you. Nobody. Let's keep that in mind. There's a lot of spring breakers down there.

All right, newspapers are done in America. You probably know that story. Here are the worst in circulation decline. The Washington Post leads the league. 21% drop in a year. LA Times, which should be out of business soon, 20% drop. USA Today, 14%. Wall Street Journal, 13. New York Times, 9%. But the New York Times did something smart. It went into sports. It's making its money from an operation called The Athletic, So it'll be around. So, newspapers nobody reads them anymore. You can't trust them and the information is on social media, and you don't need it.

This Day in History. March 30, 1981. President Reagan shot by John Hinckley Jr. I wrote a book on this, Killing Reagan. Bizarre all the way, but I wanted tonight to remind you that forty-five years ago this happened, and three, two, of the people who were shot along with President Reagan are still alive. So James Brady, the press secretary, he died, and you know he was in a wheelchair, he died at age 73, 2014. He's considered a homicide victim because his death was directly linked to the bullets he took. And then, you've got Timothy McCarthy, who was a Secret Service agent and police officer, Thomas Delahunty. McCarthy's still alive, 76. He's okay. Delahuntay, permanently disabled. And he is 90 years old and still alive. Okay, so that's an update on that. Hinckley himself is out. And he's on YouTube doing some stupid thing, I don't know. Don't feel sorry for him at all. Okay, we got a lively mail segment and then a final thought that you're gonna wanna hear. We'll be right back.

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All right, let's go to the mail. Oh, we got Liz, Concierge Member. Might consider this program on BillOReilly.com. If Liz gets into any turbulence in her life, we will help Liz. Direct line to me. Liz says, "Effective immediately, all Americans should stop filing and paying income taxes. IRS doesn't have enough people to investigate." Oh, Liz, that's the ticket to a terrible life. You don't pay the taxes, they're gonna find you. May not be right away, don't do it. That's the worst advice. Don't do it.

Travis Passani, Hendersonville, North Carolina. "I'm a regular guy, police officer, work a lot of overtime. Other than your broadcast, it seems impossible yet reliable factual information. Do you see the mainstream media coming back?" No. It's done. And when Trump leaves office in less than three years, there will be total collapse. Cable and network news on television collapse. Because there won't be anybody to hate.

William Jordan, Chester, New York. "Hey Bill, regarding the national debt, how much is too much? Nobody in the media ever tells us what the breaking point is." Because nobody knows. You got a $39 trillion debt, but investors still buy US savings bonds, and we float a whole bunch of debt to pay our bills. Well, nobody knows when that's gonna come to an end. Impossible to say.

Jim Muir, Woodland Park, New Jersey. "I think President Trump made a bad decision in starting a war with Iran. Midterms are toast for Republicans, gas prices are all Americans care about, and they will not recover." You know, look, if it's true and I believe it is that the nuke thing was coming to fruition, had to do it. It's the right thing to do.

Scott Steele, Springville, Tennessee. "In your report about Singham, you said he received tax breaks for his contributions. If he can no longer set foot in the USA without being arrested, how does that benefit him?" His crew, his groups get the tax breaks. So he doesn't get them personally, because I don't think he files, even though he's an American citizen. I could be wrong on that, but it's his enterprises, the 501Cs.

Wayne Stewart, San Francisco. "Born and raised here, retired fireman. Thank you for your report on the city of the Bay, one of the most beautiful places in the world, totally destroyed by woke liberal politicians. Exposed the reality, as only you can do, thank you." Okay, we'll tell you about it, where you can see that News Nation special. And it was, got a lot of attention. You should watch it if you didn't see it.

Gillian. "Your San Francisco program last night was excellent. It was shocking the amount of money the city spends to enable the mentally ill and drug addicts. Progressives should join them on the streets. They're the real mentally ill people." They're certainly misguided, no doubt about it.

Kathy Schilling, Loomis, California. "Just wanted to compliment you on the fabulous interview you did with Steve Shirripa. I was riveted. And that is in We'll Do It Live, and I'll tell you about that in a moment.

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NO KINGS SEQUEL: Hating Trump and No Solutions, Mike Baker on the Iran Reality, the Pope's Anti-War Message & Joe Abraham on His Daughter's Murder by an Illegal Migrant

2026-03-30T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, March 30, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks down this past weekend’s ‘No Kings’ protests around the country.
The latest in Iran, will more U.S. troops be sent to the Middle East?
Former CIA covert operations officer and Host of the Presidents Daily Brief podcast, Mike Baker discusses Iran, whether it is close to building a nuclear bomb, and why Europe isn’t aligned with the United States.
Pope Leo XIV rejects claims that God justifies war in his Palm Sunday Mass message.
Joe Abraham joins the No Spin News to share his story of losing his 20-year-old daughter in a drunk-driving hit-and-run by a Guatemalan citizen who was in the U.S. illegally.
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"Dismissed Me!" - Steve Schirripa on Ellen

2026-03-30T17:14:00Z

Actor Steve Schirripa gets candid about the time he tried to greet talk show host Ellen DeGeneres.

No Kings Protests

2026-03-30T13:52:00Z

We will specifically analyze the “No Kings” protests on the No Spin News this evening, but there are a few points that are worth thinking about.

First and very obvious is that dissent in a free society is positive. You don’t like Trump, fine. I didn’t like Biden. But I was respectful to the office he held, acknowledging the votes he received.

Listening, Robert DeNiro? Of course not. You and your “ilk” bring loathing to the forum, which clouds your judgment and leads to hysteria.

Second is knowledge. When you protest, what exactly are you seeking to improve? Affordability? Race problems? Threats in the Middle East? What?

Dissent without solutions is a foolish waste of time. It makes the protestor look dumb. You want to vent against Trump? Bring some positive positions.

Finally, be fair in your protest. Understand the big picture. The United States is complicated. Certain actions, like crime, corruption, manipulation, and propaganda, hurt us all. Become armed and dangerous with the facts. Don’t be a nitwit kool-aid drinker.

There, that about covers it.

See you this evening.

The Age of Deceit

2026-03-29T07:54:00Z

Received a video from a liberal friend that showed an ICE agent onboard a plane in San Francisco yelling at a woman. My friend was upset. He asked me to check it out. I did.

The tape was a phony; a TikTok-manufactured display. Somewhere there was a disclaimer, but many believed what they were seeing on the ludicrous social media site.

The bogus video stemmed from a real situation. Inside the terminal, ICE agents had been tipped by TSA personnel that 41-year-old Angelina Lopez-Jimenez had a Judicial Warrant out for her. Ms. Jimenez, a Guatemalan, was apprehended by Border Patrol agents in April 2018 but released pending a court hearing.

She never showed up and was in the wind.

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On May 8, 2019, a federal judge signed an order of removal for Angelina Lopez-Jimenez. Before being deported back to Guatemala this week, she had roamed around the USA for eight years.

Her situation has outraged the far left. Congressman John Garamendi (D-California) wrote: “That was the latest example of how the Trump administration is rounding up mothers and children …”

So, according to Garamendi, signed judicial warrants for removal should not be enforced. Well, at least the man implied the truth about his party’s insane position.

Democrats want amnesty for all but the most brutal undocumented aliens. That’s why the party stopped paying airport security people. The Dems want to abolish ICE enforcement and assaulted airport security as well as the Coast Guard in an attempt to make that happen.

But the party and its media enablers will not say that publicly. They are deceivers, with a few exceptions like Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania.

Same thing is going on with Iran. The left has branded it “Trump’s War.” Radical loons are running around saying the U.S. is “losing.” Trump’s war? Apparently, a nuclear-armed Iran is a figment of the President’s imagination?

From the very beginning of the conflict, I have been saying that confronting Iran is Mr. Trump’s biggest gamble because of unintended consequences like the worldwide economy.

But depriving the homicidal Mullahs of the ultimate weapons is the right thing to do. It’s not Trump’s war; it’s every responsible person’s war.

Apparently, the Democratic Party dissents especially because Presidents Obama and Biden delivered billions of dollars to the Mullahs in a failed quest to tamp down that country’s clandestine pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Also, many Dems oppose enforcing judicial warrants on the undocumented because the clueless Biden allowed any and all to flood into our country.

There is no deceit in my analysis. Every word of it is true. But, disturbingly, about half of the voting public doesn’t care. Their ideology allows deceit to prosper. That’s a war in itself. The question is: can America survive it?

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The Sopranos & Blue Bloods

2026-03-28T16:05:00Z

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2026-03-28T07:00:00Z

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Highlights from O'Reilly's No Spin News

2026-03-27T22:00:00Z

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Democrats Fold on DHS Funding

2026-03-27T14:05:00Z

Senator Charles Schumer folded. We knew he would, predicted it, and now he has.

Early Friday morning, the Senate unanimously voted to start funding airport TSA agents and the Coast Guard again after punishing them and millions of airline passengers for 41 days.

The Senate Democrats, led by Chuck, held up the money until “reform” was imposed on ICE agents.

In the end, reform did not happen because some of the liberal demands, like a federal judge signing a warrant for each detained alien, are physically impossible. Republican Senate Majority Leader John Thune said Schumer wasn’t looking for a solution; he just wanted an issue. The GOP is willing to discuss changes to immigration enforcement, but that wasn’t Schumer’s scheme. He wants legalization for so-called “nonviolent” foreign nationals, the same thing Joe Biden wanted.

Here’s backup: ICE is already funded by another spending program. Agents weren’t affected by the insanity. Schumer was just making a point by brutalizing the TSA and traveling Americans. After the vote, the minority leader said he is “proud” of the debacle.

That’s a whole bunch of cheese to drop on the nation, Chuck. Safe flight into retirement.

Mirror, Mirror on the Wall

2026-03-27T07:04:00Z

The Afternoon Dispatch is written by BillOReilly.com staff.

… Who’s the Most Despicable Chris of All?

One side of the Senate chamber is filled with Democrats who view Donald Trump with loathing and revulsion. You know their names: Schiff, Blumenthal, Warren, Schumer, et al. But right now two fellas named Chris are vying to be, as Sinatra put it, ‘king of the hill, top of the heap.’ Chris Van Hollen of Maryland and Chris Murphy of Connecticut have much in common. They were born into wealth and privilege, attended elite universities and law schools, and worked their way up the political ladder. No doubt both men, as is said about most Senators, look in the mirror and see a future president smiling back at them.

But winning the Democratic nomination requires more than breeding and smarts. These days, any ambitious Democrat must demonstrate pure disdain for the current occupant of the Oval Office. Much like a pastor offering a daily benediction, Murphy and Van Hollen put forth near-daily denunciations of Donald Trump. Van Hollen seemed to be the winner last week when he declared that he believes Tehran tyrants over his own president. Murphy responded with an implication that the Trump family is enriching itself by trading oil futures. With absolutely no proof, he accused them of ‘mind-blowing corruption.’

Chris & Chris have a rich history of saying and doing whatever it takes to prove their anti-Trump bona fides. Van Hollen notoriously went on a pilgrimage to visit illegal alien and alleged wife-abuser Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Not to be outdone, Murphy has actually asserted that illegal aliens are ‘the people we care about most.’ He also referred to illegals as ‘undocumented Americans,’ a novel term that earns big bonus points in the virtue sweepstakes. The less-than-dynamic duo is in lockstep on most issues, and a website called ‘ProgressivePunch’ ranks both in the top ten of most reliable left-wingers in the Senate. And of course, both are regulars on the anti-Trump cable networks. When MS NOW or CNN needs someone to trash the White House, either Chris will suffice.

So what’s next for Chris Van Hollen and Chris Murphy, aside from those regular TV appearances with Rachel and Jake, Dana and Jen? Murphy has launched a political action committee devoted to opposing President Trump while, of course, ‘saving Democracy.’ Beltway types see it as an indication of his presidential ambitions.

Meanwhile, last week, Van Hollen hatched a plan to raise taxes on the wealthiest and supposedly lower taxes for the less well-off. It’s a move one might expect from a guy who is already mentally decorating the Oval. One thing is certain: Both men will continue to slander and scorn Donald Trump and everything he does. It’s pretty obvious that they are rooting for failure at home and defeat abroad and will do anything to harm the president.

One irony is that the name ‘Christopher’ is based in Greek and means ‘carrier of Christ.’ These two Christophers are not exactly Christ-like in their shared obsession to destroy one man, even if it means damaging their nation in the process.

The views expressed in the Afternoon Dispatch are those of BillOReilly.com staff.

O'Reilly & Sid Rosenberg on Ending the War

2026-03-26T19:34:00Z

Bill joins WABC’s Sid Rosenberg and lays out the challenges facing the Trump administration now that Iran has been demolished militarily. Bill also excoriates Chicago politicians after the brutal murder of an 18-year-old woman by an illegal immigrant.

Bill O'Reilly on the Fly on the Wall Podcast With Dana Carvey and David Spade

2026-03-26T18:09:00Z

Bill joined the Fly on the Wall podcast to talk about the evolution of TV and journalism, and what comedians can joke about today. He also reacts to Carvey's Biden impression, discusses SNL, shares stories about Dennis Miller and Norm Macdonald, and touches on Billy Joel, Gavin Newsom, AI, and even ending the Ukraine war.

No Kings Protests Return: Who's Really Behind It?

2026-03-26T17:30:00Z

Another round of No Kings demonstrations is expected this Saturday. Bill looks into who is funding it and whether there is any dark money behind it.

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O'Reilly and Hannity Evaluate the War

2026-03-26T16:39:00Z

Bill and Sean Hannity provide a comprehensive assessment of the action in Iran - the current state of the war, what’s coming next, and how it will likely end.

O'Reilly & Cuomo on the Latest Iran Developments and Chuck Schumer

2026-03-26T16:32:00Z

Bill joins Chris Cuomo on NewsNation to discuss the latest developments with Iran, Sen. Chuck Schumer, and more.

We'll Do It Live! - Steve Schirripa

2026-03-26T16:00:00Z

Actor Steve Schirripa joins Bill O'Reilly to discuss his career, including his time on two extremely popular shows, The Sopranos and Blue Bloods. The duo also discuss Hollywood and growing up in New York.

Killing Time with Steve Schirripa

2026-03-26T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY So as you well know, I am in the political world. You know, it's as fascinating a world as your world, but totally different. On the sets of both The Sopranos and The Blue Bloods, did you guys talk politics at all?

SCHIRRIPA No. No. Well, I knew, I know, like where Tom stood, you know, because, you know, he was, you know, vocal about it. He was on TV shows, and I didn't work with Tom. I only did two scenes with Tom Selleck in 146 episodes, but I liked Tom a lot. Whenever I saw him, he couldn't have been nicer, more complimentary to me. So I knew where Tom was. Never knew where Donnie's politics or Bridget's politics. I have no idea where any of that was. The only time, and it wasn't even talk of politics, when I was out one night at Pastis, remember Pastis, in the meatpacking district? It was a spot we hung out at, a very busy spot. And I'm in there at the bar having a drink, and a guy taps me on the shoulder. It's a Secret Service guy. And he said, Bill Clinton would like to say hello. Now, he, I think Obama was in at the time, right? So I went back there, and we talked, and he couldn't have been nicer. And, you know, we knew Lorraine Bracco, and he said, tell Lorraine, hi, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I went in the next day and just to say, you know, I met Bill Clinton and.

O'REILLY But that was your brush with politics.

SCHIRRIPA That was my...I'm not a political guy. I just….

O'REILLY But do you pay attention?

SCHIRRIPA I've started paying attention, I'm going to tell you when, when De Blasio got in. Before that, I didn't pay attention.

O'REILLY So you were annoyed enough to dial up and say, what the deuce is happening?

SCHIRRIPA But I did, no one taught politics, not to me, you know. And you know, two different things. Sopranos, everybody was younger, for the most part, at the time. You know what I mean? And this was like, for me, it was like, man, we live in your 20s. I mean, we were out every night and blah, blah. With Blue Bloods, everyone had, a lot of people had families, and everybody was older. You went in. I would say it was like kind of a nine-to-five job. You go in, my wife packed my lunch, I eat, I do my job, I know my lines, I come in, I go home, you know.

O'REILLY Now, if you were working those shows today, it would be different because of Trump. So Trump has blown up Hollywood in the sense that there are many performers obsessed, they call it Trump Derangement Syndrome, but they're really obsessed. And I know that because when I run into them, that's what they wanna talk about. And they blame me for Trump. I go, I've known him 35 years, but he did it, and I didn't help him do it, and he did it on his own. So you either like him or you don't like him. It's always been that way with Trump. But Hollywood now is so Trump-centric. Now that'll disappear in three years. Once he leaves the stage, political stage, everything will change politically. Obama was pretty much accepted, Bill Clinton was accepted by the Hollywood community.

SCHIRRIPA I saw them in Hillary at the marathon. I said hello to them at this last marathon. They were both there. I think their daughter ran.

O'REILLY Oh, yeah?

SCHIRRIPA I was waiting for my wife at the finish line, and they came over and said hello. Oh, that was nice. I had met both of them. Very nice. I had met them both separately at one point, but not politics, just like I meet anyone else.

O'REILLY So we had Rob Schneider on this program.

SCHIRRIPA You know, do you know, not to interrupt you, he used to be an Elvis impersonator in Japan.

O'REILLY I did know that. He is such an interesting guy, Schneider.

SCHIRRIPA He worked for me in Vegas.

O'REILLY Oh, he did?

SCHIRRIPA In the comedy club, sure.

O'REILLY And you like him, right?

SCHIRRIPA I like Rob very much.

O'REILLY Yeah, but he's taking it right between the eyes because he's a Trump supporter.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, yeah, but he's kind of turned it around to his favor.

O'REILLY Yeah, because he's smart enough to do that.

SCHIRRIPA He's turned it around in his favor, you know, I see him, you know, his act, and you know I've seen what he's done. I haven't seen him in a number of years, but good guy.

O'REILLY Yeah, he's with the Sandler crew, and they make all those movies that are all very successful.

SCHIRRIPA I've known him for 40 years, man.

O'REILLY Right. Well, you know everybody. Is there anybody you don't know?

SCHIRRIPA No, there's people I don't know. There's some people I don't want to know.

O'REILLY You want to name that?

SCHIRRIPA I used to do that, go on and knock people out. You know the worst, one of the worst human beings that ever lived, walked the face of the earth, Pat Cooper. Did you know him?

O'REILLY I did not, I know who he is.

SCHIRRIPA One of the worst guys who ever lived.

O'REILLY Horrible guy.

SCHIRRIPA Horrible.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA Bad, bad guy.

O'REILLY Right, he opened for Sinatra. Pat Cooper as a comedian.

SCHIRRIPA Oh yeah, yeah.

O'REILLY Okay.

SCHIRRIPA But not not not all the time.

O'REILLY No.

SCHIRRIPA You... I was once friendly with him. You could take him like about this much, and then he starts yelling and screaming and doing all his nonsense, and he was on Howard Stern, and then he turned on him.

O'REILLY When you get older, if you don't get over that kind of stuff, then you're hopeless.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, you know, he was a bad guy. That was one guy that I was, you know, not, you know, was vocal about. And Ellen, I talked about Ellen, how bad she was.

O'REILLY DeGeneres.

SCHIRRIPA She worked for me in Vegas.

O'REILLY Was she bad then?

SCHIRRIPA No, no, this is 86-87. Fine. Not a problem. Very funny. Not a star. I go to the first Emmys. They invite me, the Sopranos invite me. My first Emmy Awards, me and my wife, they fly us, first class. The red carpet, the whole shebang. We're staying at the Peninsula Hotel. HBO, no one does it like HBO. They flew 100 people out. I go, stupidly, I go to the bathroom, and stupidly I see her there with two other people. And I mean, here I am. I mean, I saw her, this is in like 2000, maybe, 2000. So it's not that, it wasn't that long ago, right? And I go over to her, and I, stupidly, which I never go over to celebrities for this reason. And I said, Hey, Ellen, I don't know if you remember me, but...Dismissed me like I was a piece of gum on the bottom of a shoe. Dismissed me. For what? Why? What did you remember? I'm not, and even, and Bill, and it all, it happens all the time, you fake it, hey, good to see you again.

O'REILLY You're respectful.

SCHIRRIPA What are you doing?

O'REILLY That's all you gotta, and how long would that have taken her to do? 30 seconds.

SCHIRRIPA I've had guys come up to me with their wives and their kids, and say, Steve, hey man, high school Lafayette, da da da.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA Good to see you, I have no idea who the guy is.

O'REILLY And if people want a picture with you, you pose, I've see that.

SCHIRRIPA What am I gonna do, shoot the guy down in front of his wife, right? I mean, she made me feel this big that I don't go over to anybody now.

O'REILLY But you could, and you'd be greeted well.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, what were you saying? I cut you off.

O'REILLY No, no. That was the point of the discussion that the most celebrities, they're so insecure, moody, like your friend. You know, their whole life is built around their career. If it's not going well, then you say... But the thing I like about you is the consistency of behavior. Every time I see you, you smile, and you're interacting with the fans, you're respectful, and that's why you're here, and it was such a pleasure to talk with you, Shirripa.

SCHIRRIPA It's always, always, always a pleasure.

O'REILLY We're doing the Yankee fist bump here, all right? And then Knicks gonna make the play on it.

SCHIRRIPA Knicks are gonna make the playoffs. I feel pretty good. I feel good.

O'REILLY Celtics are pretty tough.

SCHIRRIPA That's all right.

I was in Boston at the game on Friday night.

SCHIRRIPA I know, what's his name's back, but we're pretty good too. And you know what I like about the Knick team? They do not quit.

O'REILLY No, they're in it.

SCHIRRIPA They do not quit. They don't quit.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA If everything clicks, we're gonna be okay.

O'REILLY Okay, thank you, Steve. I appreciate your time very much.

SCHIRRIPA Always good to see you.

We'll Do It Live! - Steve Schirripa

2026-03-26T16:00:00Z

O'REILLY All right, O'Reilly here with another edition of We'll Do It Live, which I hate because when I was 12 years old, I said it on Inside Edition, and it was some F-bombs, and my staff turned on me. They betrayed me and they forced me to do this show called We'll Do It Live so people could mock me. This is my own staff that I'm paying. Anyway, we've got one of the best guests who I've known for years tonight, Steve Schirripa, you know him. Sopranos, you know, Blue Bloods, he's been in a lot of other programs, a fine actor, and we're going to go all over the place, so you're not going to be bored. Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, boy.

SCHIRRIPA Yes, sir.

O'REILLY Okay, so this is what I don't understand. So your mother is Jewish and your father is Italian.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah.

O'REILLY That must have been quite a house.

SCHIRRIPA Well, you know, the thing is my mother was raised kind of like by Italians, so she was, she fit right in. You know what I mean? She was...cursed in Italian, cooked Italian. So she was like kind of more Italian than she was Jewish, you know, but I had a whole Jewish side of the family. I had, uh, Aunt Ida and Aunt Sylvia, and we would go and visit and, and my grandmother, my grandmother's maiden name, my grandmother's name is Sally Moskowitz. My mother's maiden name, Lorraine Bernstein. So I knew that whole part of the world.

O'REILLY Cross-cultural.

SCHIRRIPA Absolutely, it was great. And I'm very proud to say I'm half Jewish, very proud.

O'REILLY And working class, right? Bensonhurst?

SCHIRRIPA My father was below working class. He was a small-time wannabe gangster. And did not, he was a bad father. And we had five kids who grew up on welfare. My mother held us together, and he was a bad guy, he didn't want to work. He was one of these guys, he would love what's going on now, free stuff. You know, he sat on the couch literally for 30 years.

O'REILLY The welfare guy. Now, did your mother know he was a bad guy?

SCHIRRIPA Yeah. But I guess she was kind of trapped in...

O'REILLY Well, she got five kids.

She's got five kids, did the best she can, you know. I'm the middle kid. Everybody turned out okay, and she held it together, you know.

O'REILLY Did you forgive your father in the end?

SCHIRRIPA No.

O'REILLY You held it against him.

SCHIRRIPA I still hold it against him. He's been dead for 20-something years.

O'REILLY That's the Italian.

SCHIRRIPA Absolutely. So yeah, yeah, no. And you know what? This is the thing, Bill. You're a dad, right? I'm a dad. The more that I got into being a father, I'm saying, how could you allow this to happen? How could you get the lights shut off? What could the power bill have been in 1965? $17? I mean, how can you allow that? I had two daughters. I have a responsibility. I've got to take care of these two. This is what I signed up for, even if something happened with me and her mom, which she's the greatest mom on earth and a wonderful wife to me for 37 years, but these kids I've gotta take care of.

O'REILLY But the leap that you make from unstable home, lower working class, lights coming out, into stardom celebrity status. That's a pretty big leap.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, you know, look, my, my mother, you know, badgered that we're going to college, right? So she had that...

O'REILLY Drilled it into you.

SCHIRRIPA She put that into me, we were going to college. So my one sister went to college and I went to college. I went to John Jay. I played basketball. Went to John Jay College my freshman year, 1975. Played there and then transferred to Brooklyn. Took the train from Bensonhurst all hours of the night to John J. I mean, I'm stunned that I did it then. 1975, the city was a disaster. I'm taking the train at one o'clock in the morning, you know, from 59th Street, where it was, you know. Went to Brooklyn, graduated, actually tried out for a team in Israel. They wanted me to work on a kibbutz. I didn't want to do that. A friend of mine that I grew up with, he moved to Vegas. He said, I can get you a job. I went out to Vegas,

O'REILLY As a greeter, as one of the...

SCHIRRIPA At first, I started to deliver a pizza.

O'REILLY Yeah.

SCHIRRIPA I was delivering a pizza and then I became a bouncer at Paul Ica's club.

O'REILLY But did you have in the back of your mind that you wanted to be a performer?

SCHIRRIPA No, never, never, ever.

It never dawned on you?

Not in the least bit. I didn't know. I never knew what I wanted to do. I just knew to look people in the eye, be honest, shake their hand. That is my father, my father didn't instill it in me. I always knew a lot of people, like playing basketball. I played in the guard in my senior year. I always was around a lot of people and a lot of friends, always, you know. Played basketball all over the city, the worst neighborhoods, the best neighborhoods. That was my thing. That's what I was passionate about,.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA You know, when you try... This is my opinion, you know, like when you're trying, they go, Yeah, I want you to meet this guy. He could help you that guy, that's that's not my bag ever I've never met someone for that reason or went to lunch with them or maybe this guy could advance me.

O'REILLY Yeah.

SCHIRRIPA Never. If I liked you, I liked you. If I didn't... There was a guy, he was from Israel. He used to come into the club, I was a bouncer at, and he was lonely. He moved there, he was working at the Riviera Hotel, and I'd buy him a drink. His family was there, he was there by himself. He worked the front desk in the hotel. Long story short, six months later, the guy becomes vice president.

O'REILLY Of the hotel.

SCHIRRIPA Of the hotel, he calls me up, he said we're opening up this comedy club, he said I want you to have the job. So I go in, I interview for everybody. I get the job.

O'REILLY So, you managed the comedy club.

SCHIRRIPA Managed the Comedy Club, that's where I started, it was an improv. Then I took over, there was a topless show, and then there was female impersonator show, so I was running it, making a lot of money, a lot of tips, those are the days you could still, you know, I wore a tuxedo, you still had to pay, you had to get a good seat. And that's when I started acting. Of course, I was working with a lot of comics. Bill Maher, Richard Belzer.

Were you the MC?

No, no, I just was seating people in the back of the room, they would say, Hey, you know what? I'm doing this little short film, you know, why don't you come and do this? Kevin Pollock, he said come on do an HBO special, I played a bouncer in his thing and it was just fun to me, it was fun, I had no, I never read a script, never did anything, I flew myself to LA, I have a ball. Literally a cliché, I got literally high from doing it.

O'REILLY So it was meant to be. You didn't seek it, it wasn't on your mind, you're a basketball player from Brooklyn, you ride that train, then you go to Vegas, you write that train, then you start to get little roles in LA, and you wind up in two of the biggest monster hits in modern television. So let's zero in on the Sopranos, which you are still making money from.

SCHIRRIPA Oh yeah.

O'REILLY You're going out all over the world. You were just in England, and they couldn't get enough of you over there.

SCHIRRIPA It was crazy, we did 14 cities, 14 shows in 10 cities, started in Belfast, Nottingham, Birmingham, London, Edinburgh, I mean, we went through the whole thing, me and Michael Imperioli, we have a comic with us on stage, sold 27,000 tickets.

O'REILLY Unbelievable.

SCHIRRIPA Telling stories, funny behind-the-scenes stories, all the positive...

O'REILLY We'll get to that in a minute, but Gandolfini and Tom Selleck were the two titans that these shows revolved around, okay? Both very interesting personalities. I know Selleck a little bit. I never met Gandolfine. Now when you went on the set to play a low-level gangster, New Jersey gangster, alright, there's Gandolfini, who already had established himself as one of the great actors in the country, okay? How did he behave on the show?

SCHIRRIPA Complete Pearl, always, always trying to help you. My first scene is with him, Stevie Van Zant, Vinnie Pastore, Big Pussy, Paulie Walness, Tony Sirico. That's my first scene, I didn't know anyone. A lot of these guys knew each other.

O'REILLY Yeah, sure.

SCHIRRIPA I came in the second season, the beginning of the second. I knew no one. Said hello, did the scene, Jim's trying to helped me. I'm supposed to be intimidated, scared. He's helping me. I was green. I had work, don't get me wrong, and I had done a bunch of stuff, but this is a different level. Boom, I did a few movies, and he's trying to help me. He's yelling at me, screaming at me. He's trying to get me where I need to be. Once I do that, the scene's over. I'm one of the guys. He's just trying to help. At one point, he said, Come on, me, him, Dominic Keonese, Uncle Junior. Come to my trailer, let's go over the lines, let's run lines. It's almost an out-of-body experience. I'm going myself, How the hell did I get here? I'm watching these guys on TV a week ago. Now I'm here with the three of them.

O'REILLY And they're all very eccentric.

SCHIRRIPA Absolutely, but good guys. Jim was always a pro. That, you know, people say, did you guys have fun on the set? Yeah, we had fun. It was all business. He was working 16 hours a day, five days a week.

O'REILLY Mm-hmm.

SCHIRRIPA Listen, a great guy not without problems. I mean, that's common knowledge, right? But not on the set, never when he was working. You saw none, there was none of that

O'REILLY Was he the leader of the gang?

SCHIRRIPA Absolutely, in a positive way. So you can't come in and, you know, it was a good vibe. It really was like a family. We were close, very respectful. Nobody could come in and be disrespectful to one another. That wasn't flying either.

O'REILLY All right, so Gandolfini was kind of like the chief of police.

Yeah.

I don't want to use a bad...

SCHIRRIPA I mean, you know, but but but kind of by example, you know, I mean, he was the guy, you know.

O'REILLY But it was such an intense program. Did you guys have any laughs off camera?

SCHIRRIPA No, no, absolutely. We went out constantly. I mean, we enjoyed every moment. I mean, those guys, Michael, Jim were in their late 30s. I was my early 40s. We went out. We were like playing for the Yankees.

O'REILLY Where do you go in Jersey?

SCHIRRIPA No, here.

O'REILLY Oh, in New York?

SCHIRRIPA We all lived here. We all live in Tribeca, back in the battery farm.

O'REILLY So, you're running around.

SCHIRRIPA All over.

O'REILLY But you guys are big stars then, because that show took off fast.

SCHIRRIPA Sometimes you walk into a restaurant, they'd give you a standing ovation.

O'REILLY Yeah, even to this day. People don't know, but I know Shirripa from the Knicks, because we were both sports fans, and you're one of the nicest guys.

SCHIRRIPA Thank you.

O'REILLY All the fans, always treat them respectfully, you know, smile on your face, eye contact. And some of those celebrities, they're not, you know what I'm talking about here.

SCHIRRIPA But why, but why?

O'REILLY Because they can't be bothered with the little people.

SCHIRRIPA But this is the thing, my good fortune, right? I mean, why should I... I'm a nicer guy now than I was probably when I was younger. I mean, I've been very lucky, I mean, don't, let's not kid ourselves, there's luck involved, right time, right place, you know that. I mean, with your success, right time, right place. Somebody gives you a break, you take advantage of it, et cetera, et cetera. Don't get me wrong, it's a lot of hard work. But why should I... 99% of the fans are nice. Why should I be?

O'REILLY Because you're not screwed up like a lot of these other people are.

SCHIRRIPA I guess so.

O'REILLY You know them.

SCHIRRIPA I know them!

O'REILLY You know how crazy they can be.

SCHIRRIPA Listen, I hang out with very few, I know a lot of actors, a lot of celebrities, a lot of sports guys. I don't, I hang out with my wife, my kids, people I grew up with. Those are my friends.

O'REILLY Right. It's like your father, they're self-absorbed, these people, and then, you know, fans are an annoyance to them. Whereas you appreciate the fans because they...

SCHIRRIPA Absolutely.

O'REILLY Because they made you who you are.

SCHIRRIPA I mean, I walked on the block. I say hello to everybody. I mean, I walk all over...

O'REILLY And everybody in New York knows you.

SCHIRRIPA Sure.

O'REILLY When Shirripa and I are together, it's hysterical in the garden, you've got people who are screaming. They like you, they don't like me, but...

SCHIRRIPA Well, you're the quiet taste.

O'REILLY Yeah I know I am. And it takes a long time.

SCHIRRIPA Half the crowd likes you.

O'REILLY That's true. The show The Sopranos is so intense. The plot lines, what Chase was trying to do, getting across what the mentality of this crew is, this criminal crew, is what the show is all about. Did you gonna show you Carmela and the different people and the skill level of the acting, they're all perfect. Couldn't have been better cast.

SCHIRRIPA It could not have been a better cast.

O'REILLY So at the end of the show, the run of the show, did it wear you guys down? Were you going, oh my God, you know, how long can we keep this up? It's so intense.

SCHIRRIPA I don't think so. I think every single person would have continued to do that show. Jim was getting burnt out, and David and when David Chase came to us and said this is going to be the last season, nobody... Everyone said okay, everyone said, everyone said okay, that's fine, I mean, whatever you want. You took us here, you're the boss. I mean, Jim did most of the heavy lifting.

O'REILLY He was a plot-line guy, and Gandolfini died a short time later.

SCHIRRIPA Ah, well, no, the show ended in 2007, Jim died in 2013.

O'REILLY Okay, that's not a long period of time for a man that age, and he died in kind of mysterious circumstances.

SCHIRRIPA He went took his son to Italy, and he died of a heart attack. I mean, there was no, there was nothing like that.

O'REILLY Were you surprised?

SCHIRRIPA Was I surprised? Well, I tell you what, I got a call from our attorney, we all had the same business manager, attorney, and I was at Yankee Stadium with Mitch Modell and Tommy Lasorda, you know, before the game. And I got the call, and he said, You're by yourself? And I said, I'm at the game. And he said, Jim passed away, and I was stunned. My legs came out from under me. I said, are you sure it's not one of these hoaxes?

O'REILLY Yeah, I was surprised

SCHIRRIPA And he said, no. And then I said I had to leave. I mean, I was shaken, seriously. And I was going down to the West Side Highway. My phone was blowing up. CBS, NBC, blah, blah blah blah. I wasn't talking to anyone. Michael called me, and Michael Pirioli, some of the producers of the show. But it wasn't mysterious. I mean, he was there with his son. It was, you know, when Jim, when the show ended in 2007, him and David Chase did not speak for two or three years. They respected each other but...

O'REILLY Personality?

SCHIRRIPA Towards the end, started butting heads.

O'REILLY What was the main problem there?

SCHIRRIPA I think Jim, a little bit, thought they were taking some of the storylines from his personal life a little bit. And I think he was just burnt out as far as 16 hours a day.

O'REILLY Yeah.

SCHIRRIPA Yes, he made a lot of money, but you really have no life because, you know, you're going to work on a Monday at six in the morning and then you finish up Friday night at three a.m. And you really have no life.

O'REILLY Gandolfini was a guy like you, who didn't chase fame.

SCHIRRIPA No!

O'REILLY He didn't chase it.

SCHIRRIPA I mean, he was like a Birkenstock-wearing guy, you know.

O'REILLY He was just very talented.

SCHIRRIPA Big music guy, Green Day guy, started late acting, also, in his 30s. A family guy, a Jersey guy, he wasn't a mobby; he didn't grow up like in Bensonhurst like I did. He grew up, you know...

O'REILLY But he knew, he knew the rhythm.

SCHIRRIPA He knew, and you know, sometimes he would say, hey, before the season, he would call and say let's go down to Italy. Let's have dinner. I've got to start getting back into that world.

O'REILLY So then you segue into Blue Bloods, which is a whole different thing because it's a network show. A guy named Kevin Wade was the runner, picks you up, contrasts you to Bridget Moynihan, Beauty and the Beast, or whatever you want to call it. But it was a brilliant move. And so now you're in a tighter structure with CBS. It's not like The Sopranos. There's a big difference in production, right?

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, well, because The Sopranos was shot like a movie. Don't forget it was an hour with no commercials. A network TV show.

O'REILLY 44 minutes.

SCHIRRIPA 42 maybe. Yeah. You know? So it's a whole different thing. But the writing was great. What I enjoyed a lot about Blue Bloods, everyone got along wonderfully.

O'REILLY Great cast.

SCHIRRIPA Really nice people.

O'REILLY But the guy that everything centered around, like Gandolfini, was Tom Selleck.

SCHIRRIPA Listen, iconic TV character. I mean, he's a star, Tom, right? Right, a star, a star, a star as Magnum. Did a lot of good movies, too.

O'REILLY But this is my question. So Gandolfini, when he starts The Sopranos, wasn't mega. Tom Selleck, his private jet guy. Here I am. That's who he is. I know him a little bit. He almost punched me one time. Yeah, I was giving him jazz about guns. You didn't want to talk about it. But you know me. So anyway, so now there's this huge star comes in, and everybody revolves around him, just like the Sopranos. That is the linkage between the two shows.

SCHIRRIPA This is the difference, somewhat. Now, I came on in season six, so they already had shot, right? I did 146 episodes. I came in for one, maybe two, and then I stuck around, right? Tom, at the beginning, I don't know if there was private planes and all that at the beginning. He, this is the difference. On The Sopranos, you had no input. What was on that page, you better say. End of story. David Chase wrote it; you'd better be word-perfect. Word perfect. Now, I could ask a question and say, wait a minute, when Bobby does this, sure. But if I say, well, you know what? I don't want to say this line, and I don't want to see that line. You'd better say the line, or you're not around for the next thing.

O'REILLY You'd get whacked.

SCHIRRIPA One thousand percent.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA For real.

O'REILLY Right, right.

SCHIRRIPA Okay, so there was none of that. You did not have that input. Tom had a lot of input

O'REILLY You bet he did.

SCHIRRIPA Tom had a lot of input. Tom knows what he's doing. Guy's an actor for 50 years.

O'REILLY But he's a traditional guy. He brought that in, and that's what catapulted his show.

SCHIRRIPA And he's a common-sense guy.

O'REILLY Right. He's not some kind of flaky...

SCHIRRIPA No, and he knows, and he'll come in, and he'll say, why iswas the light there, and why are we shooting that? And he'll question, and he knows what he's talking about.

O'REILLY But if he wants it, he gets it.

SCHIRRIPA Well, of course, he's a star of the show.

O'REILLY Right, he's the guy.

SCHIRRIPA He's the star of the show. Now, that was a big difference. Jim read the script, and he did it like the rest of us. I said he read the script...

O'REILLY But Selleck had power.

SCHIRRIPA Tom would give his opinion to the writers and...

O'REILLY Writers would do it, what he pretty much wanted to do, and it worked.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, of course it worked. There was a...listen, when the show ended, it was what six million people plus three or whatever?

O'REILLY Number one prime-time CBS show.

SCHIRRIPA For years.

O'REILLY And they whacked it, to use a Sopranos word, because they didn't want to pay you guys.

SCHIRRIPA Well, I guess it was the pay, and I guess it was, I think they were going in a different direction. It's very diverse.

O'REILLY They were too woke. They didn't like the tradition that, you guys were...

SCHIRRIPA I know, I know, there was questions at times about the prayer, you know, a lot of people didn't like them saying the prayer.

O'REILLY I know Wade. I know him, I know what he went through!

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, I know, I know.

O'REILLY The bosses at CBS are all left-wingers, or were, and now Skydance is in there. And then what they turned it into, Boston Blue, is as woke as you can get. You couldn't get more woke than that.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, I've never seen it, you know. Listen, I wish Donnie the best because I happen to like Donnie Wahlberg.

O'REILLY It's a hit show.

SCHIRRIPA People loved the dinner scene. That was a big deal. I remember, I went once to the dinner scene I was invited. I was very proud of that moment, honestly. I mean, I got to sit next to Tom.

O'REILLY You're one of the cool kids.

SCHIRRIPA Right? Now, they didn't like the prayer. Why didn't they like the pray? That's what people liked about it. They liked the prayer, they liked the family coming over at dinner. They liked them arguing, they liked them sticking up for each other, they liked all that. So why are you trying to change all that? This is what people liked. So you're shoving something down their throat.

O'REILLY But they couldn't change because Selleck wouldn't change it.

SCHIRRIPA That's right.

O'REILLY That's what they ran into, but it was money that made the final decision. But I always think...

SCHIRRIPA You know that more than me because I don't know. Because I know it wasn't the quality of the show.

O'REILLY Oh no!

SCHIRRIPA By any means.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA The writing was wonderful. Siobhan...

O'REILLY But can you imagine today if Blue Bloods was still on the air and you got a communist mayor in New York City, Mamdani, slashing up against Selleck.

SCHIRRIPA But then again, I know it's a communist, but we got through De Blasio, who was so far the worst mayor in the history of the city. David Dinkins thinks he's a bad mayor. You know, Mamdani, we're yet to find that out, which I'm sure that's the way that's going. But De Blasio was terrible for the city.

O'REILLY And you wrote it into storylines.

SCHIRRIPA Terrible for the city.

O'REILLY Not Chase, Wade made sure that the writers got that tension in between the liberal mayor and Selleck.

SCHIRRIPA Absolutely.

O'REILLY And those things worked like crazy.

You know, I don't understand the thing with, I don't want to talk politics because I don't know that much about it, but I just...The thing with De Blasio, he did it almost immediately. He destroyed the city. It was like him, and his wife were just waiting in the wings. He wins, Bloomberg's out, and things go to shit, right? Almost immediately.

O'REILLY Because they don't see it that way.

SCHIRRIPA But what do they see?

O'REILLY They say they're enlightened, and they're empowering people who are getting screwed. That's the don't enforce the law philosophy.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, but that's what I'm trying to say. I mean, do they want it dangerous out there? For me, the biggest thing, Bill, anywhere is the safety of the citizens, that you can go out because it all trickles down.

O'REILLY Right, and your family.

SCHIRRIPA That's right.

O'REILLY I worry about my daughter.

SCHIRRIPA My two daughters live here in the city.

O'REILLY Yeah.

SCHIRRIPA Okay, but my point is, everything works. If it's safe, people go to restaurants, people go to concerts, people do this, people do that. A lot of people don't wanna go out after a certain time because they're afraid.

O'REILLY Look, traditional New Yorkers...

SCHIRRIPA So, what? They want people to get hit over the head?

O'REILLY Traditional New Yorkers like you and me, born, raised, know the rhythms of the city because we know it. We know Yankees, we know Mets, we know Knicks, we know restaurants, we know everything, okay? The traditions that made this city strong are considered racist by the far-left progressives. So De Blasio comes in and goes, No, all of the traditions that we had, holding people accountable, if you get smacked in the face, you go to jail, somebody does. No, that's racist, okay? That's the way they think. And then if they get power, then you have anarchy, and that's what we're looking at.

SCHIRRIPA I don't know. I'm a common-sense guy. You do something wrong, you get in trouble for it.

O'REILLY And Blue Bloods was a common-sense show.

SCHIRRIPA It was a great show. Listen, there's nothing better than shooting on the streets of New York City.

O'REILLY Now you wrote a book about raising girls, so I didn't know that. I'm going to now read the book, of course.

SCHIRRIPA Big Daddy's Rules. Raising daughters is tougher than it looks.

O'REILLY What was the big thing that you learned raising the girls?

SCHIRRIPA Common sense, gotta stay close to them, gotta know what they're doing.

O'REILLY But they're emotional all the time.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, but then you know what? I'm gonna tell you something. Not with mine. Not with my daughters. We never had that big problem, me and my wife. You know, we never had that problem where the daughter disappears, and they go, you know, people say, oh, they'll be back when they're 18 and all that. We never have that. My daughters, to this day, want to go on vacation with us, and they're both married now. So now I got, you know, we've got the whole group, right? But honestly, we stayed close. We knew who their friends were. They played sports, big sports, softball, soccer, and gymnastics, and you know, we had them try, you know, all the things, some things stick. No pressure on them if they were good. We just wanted them to be good people. Good people and happy, just be a good person, and I felt everything and my wife felt everything will fall into place.

O'REILLY How did they handle your celebrity?

SCHIRRIPA They couldn't care less. They're very proud of me. They're very proud of me. They could care less, and I'm very happy about that. They're not affected by any of that stuff. I take them to the Knick games. They love going to the games because they like to go to the games. Honestly, not affected by that, they don't... Never bugged me, you know, can I do this, or do that, and none of that.

O'REILLY Did you take them to the sets? Did they?

SCHIRRIPA You know what? I took them to the Secret Life set because they were teenagers at the time.

O'REILLY Right, Shailene, sure.

SCHIRRIPA You know, a couple of times. Soprano sets, a couple times, though, they knew we were close, so we socialized a lot. Look, you're together 10 years, divorces, married, kids, you know, stuff like that. So they knew Jim and everybody. They came to... I think Blue Bloods maybe once. My wife's not that person to hang around, like some wives, you know, hang around the set and all. My wife, my wife is, she ran 13, she's gonna be 63 in a couple of weeks, my wife Laura, she's just finished her 13th New York Marathon.

O'REILLY And 37 years you've been married, you said?

SCHIRRIPA 37 years.

O'REILLY Geez.

SCHIRRIPA We're together 40 years.

O'REILLY She a Brooklyn girl?

SCHIRRIPA No, Las Vegas I met her.

O'REILLY She's a Vegas girl? Wow!

Las Vegas, UNLV. You know, so no, they're not affected by that. I think, you know, because we didn't allow that either, but they're affected by, you know, as a matter of fact, my daughter is working, she didn't want anyone to know who her father was.

O'REILLY Mine don't have any choice.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, but you know what I mean.

O'REILLY Yeah, oh, I know. And, uh, but I.

SCHIRRIPA Right, so it wasn't that like, you know, like spoiled like that. It wasn't at all. You know, they grew up in Battery Park City. That's where we lived. They went to Poly Prep in Brooklyn, you know.

O'REILLY Normal. Kept it as normal as you could keep it.

SCHIRRIPA Very normal. Now they've both got the jobs on their own. I had nothing to do with anything.

O'REILLY Now, when people yell out your character name when they see you, because everybody recognizes you...

SCHIRRIPA Don't bother me.

O'REILLY Doesn't bother you?

SCHIRRIPA It doesn't bother me, no, because I tell you what, if they say Steve, I question that. Who's that? Do I know that guy? No, listen, they call me Anthony from Blue Bloods.

O'REILLY They can't pronounce the last name of the detective.

SCHIRRIPA No, they say Anthony or Bobby, especially the younger kids. Bobby, it really doesn't bother me.

O'REILLY Right.

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O'REILLY Now, people don't know this, but you're a very generous guy, do a lot of charity work, and you've got something coming up that I want to mention, at Radio City, April 13th. Garden of Laughs charity. And it helps younger people who get into circumstances beyond their control. Is that correct? Do I have it?

SCHIRRIPA No, some of it, no, some are just, you know, some of them are disabled, some are just learning disabled, some are just come from poor families. And it's the Garden of Dreams Foundation, Madison Square Garden. Let me tell you about Jim Dolan, who I'm sure you know Jim. Jim does a lot of good stuff, and a lot of people give him heat, and it's wrong. He spends so much money, puts up so much money. We've raised over the years, just as Gardner Laughs, $8.5 million, Garden of Laughs. We've done it, this is our fifth time, I believe. I've hosted it every time. It's the first time at Radio City. We did it in the theater before. Comics, no one gets paid a dime. It's all volunteer. Jim puts up a lot of money, and obviously donates Radio City and the venue, and does a lot of great stuff. It's a wonderful night. We've got six or seven great comics on the bill, and every dime goes where it's supposed to go. I'm very proud of this. You know, I'm very proud that they asked me to do it. I come out, I do a few minutes, we have these great comics. We have a lot of celebrities presenting, you know, introducing the comics. Athletes, hockey guys, ranger guys, Knick guys. You know C.C. Sebastian did it one year. All kinds of people. So it's a...

O'REILLY The money goes though, how does the money go?

SCHIRRIPA The money goes in the tri-state area, right? And so it goes to kids that, kind of like a, not make a wish, but on that order. Some of the kids' dreams come true. They also do a talent show. It's, you know, it's not troubled kids. It's kids that are having a tough time growing up, like I would have. This would have been great for a kid like me.

O'REILLY And how do the kids connect with the charity?

SCHIRRIPA Two different organizations, feeding organizations, and they decide who gets the money, you know. Garden of Dreams board, and you know.

O'REILLY Right, because it's hard being a kid these days with the electronics and all that, you can lose your way.

SCHIRRIPA It's terrible, but I'll tell you what. They have a prom for these kids, you know, some of these kids can't afford prom dresses and can't afford to go to the prom. They have the whole thing. They pick their dress out. It really is wonderful. The Radio City, we started out, I remember I went to the first few years, Bill, 200 people, 100 people, they fill up Radio City now.

O'REILLY Now you've got 5,000 in there.

SCHIRRIPA It's incredible. And so many celebrities have, you know, donated their time, you know, time and time again, you know, and I've been involved for years. And then, we... just Garden of Laughs is like an offset of that. Last year, I think we raised two and a half million dollars, 2024 was the last time we did this.

O'REILLY Almost everybody I know, and I know a lot of people in show business, likes you.

SCHIRRIPA Oh, thank you.

O'REILLY I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true. They like you. That's not real universal.

SCHIRRIPA No, listen, what you see is what you get.

O'REILLY But is it important to you that other people like you?

SCHIRRIPA It just depends. I don't care if some people don't like me. I mean, I am who I am. I mean, if you don't like what I do, and there's a lot of jealousy. You know that.

O'REILLY Oh yeah.

SCHIRRIPA Every day I come on TV, and they say, oh, that guy sucks. I could do better than him. I've been an actor for 50 years, and I got three roles or blah, blah, why did he get it and I didn't?

O'REILLY Very tough business.

SCHIRRIPA You know that, right? And I understand that. Like I said, I am a believer. I've worked extremely hard, but I came to New York for a wedding. I was working as the entertainment director. I was an executive. I worked my way up at the Riviera. I was an Executive. I came here for a wedding. I had been dabbling in the acting, and an agent friend of mine... I said, could you get me to audition for that show, The Sopranos? I had seen an episode or two. I read for the role of an FBI agent. He got me to the audition. I went, it was George Ann Walken, Christopher Walken's wife. She said, I don't see you as an FBI Agent. Read this, we have someone in mind. I read it. She said if I get you in front of David, would you come back? And I'm saying to myself, who the hell is David? I have no idea what you're even talking about. I just figured I'd grab a couple lines, it would be fun.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA You know, no, I, no thought of, I can make a living, I could get on this show, I could do this, I'm gonna move back to New York. I had a big house on an acre of land, big job.

O'REILLY You're doing well in Vegas.

SCHIRRIPA I'm fine, I know everybody and their mother in Vegas, I get anything I want at any time.

O'REILLY Free buffet.

SCHIRRIPA Anything. Caesar's Palace, Sinatra.

O'REILLY But it was meant to be.

SCHIRRIPA Right, so I come here, and I work hard, I move my family back, it was very hard, I paid my own way the first year. Cost me 24 grand, I made 22 grand. The agent had told me not to take the job. Had to get rid of that guy, right? So that's my point is, if you don't like what I do, I'm not a purist, I'm no, you know.

O'REILLY You're not needy.

SCHIRRIPA Listen, I've very confident in myself. I've come this far, I am 68 years old. You know, I only do things now that I like. You know, knock on wood, I've done fine, I'm okay.

O'REILLY The important thing is you've got nice kids and a nice wife.

SCHIRRIPA I got nice kids, they married two nice guys, my wife is wonderful.

O'REILLY You're a 10 percenter in Hollywood. 90 percent don't have that.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah. Well, I just was talking to a friend of mine on the way here, a character actor. You know him if you've seen him.

O'REILLY Well, tell me who he is.

SCHIRRIPA No, no. Good guy. Good guy, and he's been in a million things. He's unhappy, he hasn't been working. The last years have been, you know, he's 75, six. And then he got a job, he was like a recurring character. And I said, you put too much, I said you put too much into your life as happy or not happy by getting a role. I said, you've got money, you're fine. What, you've been depressed for two years because things have slowed down? Which are just natural, not everybody stays here. The tide goes in, the tide goes out. I said everything, your mood, everything revolves around if you're working. I mean, you know, it shouldn't be that way.

O'REILLY Did you convince him or?

SCHIRRIPA No, of course not.

O'REILLY Because he wants to be that way.

SCHIRRIPA Of course.

O'REILLY Wants to be morose.

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O'REILLY Now I'm gonna tell you a story that coincides with you. So you're a bouncer in 1975, okay, in Vegas.

SCHIRRIPA No, 1980.

O'REILLY 1980. Okay. So in 1972, I'm a bouncer at the Rec Bar in Miami. The Castaways Hotel, mobbed-up place. Okay? Hottest place to steal a line from Barry Manilow, north of Havana. Okay, this is crazy. Now, the reason they wanted me, I know why they wanted you to be a bouncer but I don't look like a bouncer, even though I was a college football player, I was about 15 pounds heavier than, they wanted guys to stand on the floor, who, yeah, wear a jacket and a tie, they wanted to class it up.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, yeah.

O'REILLY But I was a teacher, a high school teacher, but I wasn't making enough money to have food. And food is important.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, I would say, I would say.

O'REILLY Right, so I had to work on Saturday and Friday nights at this rec bar as a bouncer, but I told the guy, Bernie, I said, look, if somebody gets out of control in here. Don't expect me to mess up this face. I'm not doing it. Okay, so you have to have other guys that I can like the bullpen. Send in the right-hand guy with the Glock to take care of this guy. You'll see me because I'm tall.

SCHIRRIPA That's funny.

Okay, so my job at the end of the evening, and all the bars closed in Miami back at that time, was to walk the go-go girls to their car. Remember the go-go girls?

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, yeah.

O'REILLY White boots, and they had the cage.

SCHIRRIPA They had them in the cage?

O'REILLY The whole thing.

SCHIRRIPA That's great.

O'REILLY Okay, which I did.

SCHIRRIPA Sounds wonderful to me, Bill.

O'REILLY But I was very polite. Because I felt that most of them had kids and they, you know. They had rough lives. So about four years ago, a colleague of mine, Bernie Goldberg, you may know him, TV guy, he calls me up, and he says, do you know Penelope somebody? Now this happens to me all the time, sure it happens to you.

SCHIRRIPA If I see them.

SCHIRRIPA Right, I'd know the face.

O'REILLY But I'm never rude about it.

O'REILLY No, no, you're always respectful.

SCHIRRIPA Yeah, I probably know them.

O'REILLY So I said, Bernie, the name doesn't really conjure up anything. He goes, well, she knows you. And I go, oh. And he said, she was a go-go dancer at the rec bar. And she said, you were the nicest bouncer they have ever had there. People remember. I bet you, if you went to Vegas now, they'd all forget about the Sopranos and Blue Bloods, they'd remember you!

SCHIRRIPA Oh yeah, they're still around out there, they're still...Listen, Vegas at the time that was just a wonderful time.

O'REILLY The Rat Pack.

SCHIRRIPA And I got to see Sinatra about 20 some times.

O'REILLY Right, Elvis.

SCHIRRIPA You know, yeah, that was before my time, but I would have loved to see it... Before my time, I would've loved to see Elvis. But Sinatra, I met numerous times.

O'REILLY And he was respectful to you, right?

SCHIRRIPA Oh, he was great, great to me, I got a great picture. That's the one person. I had to have a picture. I have a great picture. My wife took it, and she was young, and she took the pic. We weren't even married yet. She took the picture. We went, we were invited to a party. It's Jerry Vale was there. Right. Jerry Vale, Corbett Monica, some other guys.

O'REILLY Blast from the past.

SCHIRRIPA It was Jilly Rizzo, who was a friend of mine and his son, I lived with his son for a while there, and they invited us. It was about 25 people. Started at 2 in the morning. I called my wife, Laura. She was in bed. I said, Sinatra's coming. Come on, get dressed. Got out of bed, comes down. We're there until 4.30 in the morning. He's drunk, and he's wearing a members-only jacket, and it says Frank.

O'REILLY Right.

SCHIRRIPA Like, you know, right?

O'REILLY We know.

You know, we know, yeah.

O'REILLY Yeah, we know.

SCHIRRIPA And he's, I gotta tell you, he's yelling, Don Rickles is there, he is yelling at Rickles. Rickles was up there, and he's going, and it's like a little like, wow. At the end, I said, I got to get this picture.

O'REILLY Sure.

SCHIRRIPA The end, take the picture, and they were like, oh, how dare you ask. And it's Jilly, his son, Willie, Frank, and me. And then my wife, who was 21 at the time, she said, hold on, Frank. I want to get one, just like that. And he went, come here, sweetheart, we got the greatest picture.

O'REILLY And it's on the wall, I bet, huh?

SCHIRRIPA On the wall.

O'REILLY In the fall of fame. Right with all the Knicks.

SCHIRRIPA Absolutely. Absolutely.

O'REILLY Okay, just hang tough for a minute. So that was a very entertaining chat, and I wanna thank you very much. You're a good guy. I know Schirripa off camera a little bit from the Knicks and the Yankees and all that, and he's a genuine guy. Now, we're gonna have more for you Premium and Concierge Members in the Killing Time segment. All right, so that begins now.

Killing Time with Steve Schirripa

2026-03-26T16:00:00Z

Bill and actor Steve Schirripa talk politics, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Trump Derangement Syndrome and Ellen DeGeneres.

No Kings, U.S.-Iran Talks & Late-Night

2026-03-26T15:57:00Z

Killing Time

2026-03-26T15:55:00Z

U.S.-NATO Tensions

2026-03-26T07:38:00Z

There is a quiet campaign going on in conservative circles for the United States to pull out of NATO. That is understandable because the Europeans are certainly not proactive in fighting evil.

President Trump is unpopular among NATO leaders because he forced them to pay their allotted dues, which they declined to do for decades. Spain is still considerably behind in its financial obligations.

The Spanish also insulted the Trump administration by threatening to deny landing privileges to U.S. warplanes on their way to the Middle East.

I believe Spain should be sanctioned by NATO for its actions, perhaps expelled.

But I would not totally bail on the alliance because that would help Europe’s largest problem: Putin. It is easy to envision the maniacal Russian dictator destabilizing the Baltic States and Eastern Europe in general.

Moldova, we hardly knew ya.

However, the NATO countries need to wise up and recognize that it is American muscle that keeps the continent viable. And if the U.S. needs help, NATO should be there, like our policies or not.

That’s what friends are for, right?

Rapscallion

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[rap·scal·lion] a mischievous person.

Normal Vs. Crazy - Bill O'Reilly on Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders Being Asked to Leave a Restaurant

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Bill O'Reilly reacts to Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders being asked to leave a Little Rock restaurant over her politics.

No Kings Protests Return: Who's Really Behind It?, Extremists on the Left, U.S.-Iran Talks Remain Uncertain & Late-Night Comedy Under Fire

2026-03-25T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News. Wednesday, March 25th, 2026. Stand up for your country. So I was laying down late last night when the phone rang. And it was President Trump. To me, even though he's my friend and I've known him for 35 years, it's the President of the United States. And it doesn't really matter what time it is. So anyway, we had our usual back and forth, a lot of it off the record. But I had to go on the record for a couple of things that I want to tell you about. Yesterday, we analyzed that a negotiation between Iran and the USA might be led by Vice President Vance. But I cited the source for that, The Guardian newspaper, and I told you it is an unreliable publication, and it's exactly what it is. It's not going to be Vice President Vance taking the lead in the negotiation; it's going to be with Witkoff and Kushner, the two have been doing it all along. Now Iran has not agreed yet. I don't know whether they will. But U.S. Authorities are ready to go to Pakistan, Turkey, or wherever a negotiation might take place. The problem is that there's no one in charge in Iran right now. The president doesn't even know who's going to show up for a negotiation. Could be Omar the tent maker. I mean, if you call over there... It says, well, Line 1 used to be so-and-so, but he's dead, and I'm making fun of it, but it's true. So the upper echelons of the Iranian government, the theocracy, they're all dead. Nobody really knows who's in charge. There are rumors, ABCD, but it is so chaotic in Iran right now that there's no certainty at all. I'm going to get into it in a few moments. You might want to get a pen and paper, because you're not getting honest information from the American media about this Iranian action. I will give you honest information, but I want to start with the dissent to the war in Iran.

Okay. Now, I like dissent. I'm a maverick. I think dissent is really, really good, but it's got to be responsible. Can't be personal animus. And that's what we're seeing here. So on Saturday, there is a No Kings, the third No Kings demonstration. All around the country. And this is an anti-Trump, we hate Trump demonstration. Okay. We've seen it. We know what it is, there's no real difference. The grievances are, you know, sending mass agents into the streets, terrorizing communities, immigrant families terrorizing, no warrants, threats to overtake elections, getting healthcare, environmental problems, and education solved. A rigging maps to silence the vote. You know, the usual litany of progressive grievances. A few are legit, most are just made-up fabrications. All right, I mean, there aren't people being detained without warrants. All right? There are judicial warrants signed by judges, and then there are Homeland Security warrants signed by superiors in that organization. You gotta have a warrant, take somebody in. It's a simple lie, all right. So No Kings is based, this demonstration on Saturday, is based in, ready, Minneapolis, hello. And Bruce Springsteen's gonna be there. So it's Bernie Sanders, Attorney General Keith Ellison, and Jane Fonda, they're trotting out Jane. Now, I'm mocking this because it means nothing. I mean, these people don't want to talk about legitimate issues. They want an open border. Progressives want an open border. Everybody comes in. Everybody. And then they stay. That's amnesty. They want amnesty. So millions and millions and millions of people are absorbed into our country. That's what they want. Say it. I respect you if you said it. The funding of this is fascinating. So it comes from a group called Indivisible. That's from the Pledge of Allegiance, all right? Indivisible. And nobody knows anything about that organization. You can look it up, but it's shadowy. But the big money is coming from Soros, as usual. Soros pumped about 8 million into the no-king protest, the two priors in this one. Soros is behind it. ACLU, which is no longer a civil rights organization, it's a far-left, fanatical group. And Planned Parenthood, so they're in on it too. These are the big organizations behind it, and a lot of the money that comes in, and you'll see it if you watch television coverage, you know, there'll be plenty of it, of this no-Kings thing. You'll see the buses, you'll see the signs, you'll see the people organized. All that takes money. And it's dark money. Because the commentators and the news reporters, they don't know where the money comes from, and they don't care. As long as it's a big crowd, that's what they care about, as long as Trump looks bad. Okay, but the dark money component here is very, very disturbing. Because money can undermine democracy. It's not hard to do it. So you will remember that on January 26th of this year, we broke a story about Neville Roy Singham. Okay, there he is. He's a communist, lives in Shanghai, China, very close ties to the Beijing government. Now, he is behind a lot of the dark money stuff. And we reported that, that Singham has been in this arena for nine years, ever since he sold his technology company called ThoughtWorks for about $800 million. Now, you would say, well, how can you live in a communist country if you have $800 million? Wouldn't the government take that away from you? No. As long as you're serving the government. There are a lot of billionaires in China. They serve the government, and so does Singham. Singham is an American citizen. Can't come here. Steps one foot on our soil, they'll arrest him, okay? But he is a real, real threat to every American. And 99% of Americans have no idea who the man is. This is what I said in January. Go.

"His name is Neville Roy Singham. He's a billionaire tech guy lives in Shanghai, China. He works with the Chinese government. And he has a 501 three C in the United States called Breakthrough News, where he funnels money to places like the People's Forum in New York City and other, and Minnesota radical left organizations. He's deeply involved with the insurgency and the sedition against the federal government, this guy. We gave you all the information, he's a communist guy."

Well, now Fox News Digital has launched a five-part series on Singham, and we congratulate them. Not going to see that on CBS or CNN or ABC or NBC. They don't care. But Fox News Digital has come up with some very interesting information. About $300 million dollars, Singham has pumped into the following nonprofits. Code Pink, Breakthrough Media, Justice and Education Fund, People's Forum, People's Support Foundation, Trance, Tri-Continental, LTD. He did pump the money in through Goldman Sachs. Can you believe this? And he got tax breaks from the IRS to pump the money in, $300 million. Now we call Goldman Sachs because we're fair people, you can come back to me here, we're fair people. And we got a guy named Tony Fratto on the phone, he's the spokesman for Goldman, and he says that they have terminated Singham's fund. But they did it only last month. Okay, I'm sorry, February 2024, 13 months ago, 13 months ago. But Singham used Goldman Sachs, and he had tax deductions to undermine the American government and system. His main outfit now is the People's Forum located at 14th Street in Manhattan, New York City. They are the ones that funnel the money out locally. And Code Pink, answer, he's married, Singham is, to the co-founder of Code Pink, Jodie Evans. And guess where they all showed up last week? Havana. They all showed up to prop up the Cuban government, which is on the ropes. Now, the Justice Department. Come on, Kash Patel, hello? Okay, you gotta investigate this. This is subversion at the highest level, using our system. And maybe there's an investigation, but nobody's telling us. The Justice Department is the only mechanism on the planet that can stop this and expose it. If you go out tonight and say, hey, you know this guy Roy Singham, nobody's going to know it. This is a suppression, very, very dangerous. And all the progressives, all these idiots out, no king. If you go up and you say, how about Neville Roy Singham? And you know, he bought that sign for you. Who? Who? No idea. This is bad.

Now, we're proud that we broke the story, an independent news agency, the No Spin News, BillOReilly.com, y'all know. And we applaud Fox News Digital, picked it up. They picked it right up. Listen, if you watch Fox News, okay, and I don't have time to watch a lot of it, and I really don't learn a lot there, but what we do, they monitor it very, very closely. And it's smart to do that. Because what we say is true. That's the memo. Now the radical left is getting bolder in this country. You may have noticed this. The worst of the worst is Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut. I mean, this guy is a fanatical Trump hater and way out there on the left. So a soundbite that he gave to MSNBC February 7, 2024, has just emerged.

"Well, I mean, Chris, that's been a failed play for 20 years, so you are right that that has been the democratic strategy for 30 years, maybe, and it has failed to deliver for the people we care about most, the undocumented Americans that are in this country."

Gives her the undocumented Americans. They're not Americans, you pinhead. If they're undocumented, they're not Americans. But this is the fanaticism. What are you people in Connecticut thinking? The nutmeg state. I think we can take the MEG off that. This guy, the people we care about the most, don't live in Danbury or New Haven or Hartford. No, they live in Honduras. This is insane. And that's who the man is. Murphy, he's talking about their failure to pass quote, comprehensive immigration reform. And the reason they can't pass it is because the Democrats insist on full amnesty for everybody Joe Biden let in here and previous administrations. And the Republicans are never gonna do that. And the Democrats know it. It's not partial amnesty. It's that pathway to citizenship, no. It's everybody stays, unless you commit some kind of horrendous murder. Okay, now, former CIA Director John Brennan, this week, on a very reliable MS Now, see, they changed their name, talking about Iran. Go.

"Well, I tend to believe Iran more than I do Donald Trump, because he could not acknowledge the truth, even when he is slapped in the face with it repeatedly. And it's clear that, you know, he is flailing right now. He's trying to figure out how he's going to get out of this debacle that he has created."

That's so insane. We're not losing a war there, Mr. Brennan. You're lying, and you're such a fanatic that you say, I believe Iran more than the president of the United States. I'll pay for you to go to Iran. I can get you in there. I'm not going to be able to fly in, but I can get you there. I'll pay it. You go on over there. And this guy is as virulent as they get. And yeah, NBC doesn't own MSNBC anymore but they've got no problem putting this guy on. All right. The latest in Iran, as we spoke about in the opening of the program tonight, is that they're trying to get the two sides, the USA and Iran, to sit down, hammer out a treaty. And there's no ceasefire. A lot of action today. President Trump has said he's not going to bomb the infrastructure in Iran, of their power grid. And they've got four more days to open the Straits of Hormuz. And if they don't, then he says he's gonna bomb it, which would then put Iran back to no communications. Phone, nothing. Just wipe it completely off. Now, part of the so-called peace plan the United States wants, and Israel, of course, nuclear capabilities must be dismantled. That's a must. Non-negotiable, have to, can't have it. Because that's the reason that we did this in the first place. All right? No new uranium enrichment, and that inspectors have to be allowed into Iran to make sure that doesn't happen, okay? Iran must cease funding and arming terrorists, and no more missile program, and on and on. Now, many of you write to me, and it's legitimate, absolutely, Well, we can't trust Iran. That doesn't mean you don't make a deal because it's better for the worldwide economy if the Strait of Hormuz opens under allied supervision, of course. We don't let Iran run it. It's much better for the world. That is a huge plus. The only reason Iran's holding out is because it believes that the United States, the people, will get tired of paying a buck more for gas, a gallon, and hurt Trump. And then the world doesn't want to do it anyway. So that's the only incentive, because they're getting pounded.

All right, so let's all pray, you know, say a prayer that we get some kind of resolution this weekend or early next week. The propaganda element in the United States about the action in Iran is through the roof. According to the Conservative Media Research Center, who did a study, 97 percent of late-night comedy, so-called. That's Kimmel and Colbert, The Daily Show, Meyers, Fallon. 97% are mocking President Trump in the United States for the Iran action. I don't watch it. So if you do, say you can send me a letter, whether that's accurate, and it probably is. But they're mocking, be like in World War II, and it's exactly the same, the comparison I'm gonna make. So it's World War Two, these guys would come on television and mock America for fighting the Japanese. You know, it's like, wait, wait. Even if you don't like the policy, you stand by your country. Not these guys. I'm never going to forget this. There'll be a reckoning. So Vince Vaughn is one of my favorite actors, and he's a good guy. I met him. And he recognizes what I recognize. Roll the tape.

"I think that the talk shows, to a large part, became really agenda-based."

"Yeah."

"They were gonna evangelical people to what they thought. You know what I mean? And so people just rejected it because it didn't feel authentic. It felt like they had an agenda. It stopped being funny, and it started feeling like I was in a class I didn't wanna take. But if you look at what happened to the talk shows and why their ratings are low, it's got only to do with the fact of what you just said, which is they all became the same show. And they all become so about their politics and who's good and who is bad. And it's like, imagine sitting next to someone like that on a fucking plane."

Yeah, it's like, right. I don't talk when I'm on planes to strangers unless if they want a picture or an autograph, that's fine. But I don't want to give somebody a lesson in anything unless they want it. You know, so, but Vaughn is very, very good. You watch him in a movie, especially the Wedding Crashers. This guy, amazingly talented. All right, Delta, I wrote my message of the day on BillOReilly.com. We hope you read it every day, it's free, and I think we'll add to your day. That Delta has suspended all perks for U.S. Congress people flying out of DC. Okay, so they can't jump the line anymore, there's no red coat services, that's where you're escorted to the plane and all that. Stopped. So Delta's CEO, he didn't like this at all, Ed Bastion, and Ed's done a good job at that airline, okay? I can attest to that. And Ed says, you know, we know that Congress is using TSA agents by not paying them to ram through this insane, let's try to destroy ICE. We know that. And our businesses are being affected by it because people have to stand in line for three hours to get on a plane. So Ed's a little teed off, and he goes, okay, you're not getting special perks, good for you, Ed. More ceo should stand up.

Let's go over to Sweden. You ever been there? Nice country, been there a couple of times. 11 million Swedes. Most of them look exactly the same. My favorite actress of all time is Swedish, Anne Margaret. And they allowed migrants in there like crazy in the early part of the EU when there was no border restrictions anymore. Come on in. Come on up to Stockholm. Okay? So they got flooded. Now, yesterday, they introduced a bill. And the bill says if you are not a Swedish citizen and you are not making an honest living, we're going to boot you. You're getting deported. Whoa. And it's up to the Swedish government to figure out what an honest living is. So if you're selling pot, that's not an honest living. And they're just going to boot you right out of the country. So they've had it, and most European nations have had it. Which is why they were too afraid to help the USA in the Iranian action. They're afraid! I mean, Starmer over in London, he's scared to death of the Muslims in Great Britain. And the same thing applies to Germany and France. Italy, not so much. So there's been a 30% reduction of migrants asking for asylum in Sweden, because obviously the Sweden government doesn't want them there anymore. And here's the deal. If you leave voluntarily, the Swedish government will give you $37,500. I'm thinking about going over there illegally to Sweden, to take the 37.5, and I'll come back to New York. That's an interesting story. You'll not hear it anywhere else.

Senate hearing today on sanctuary cities, judiciary subcommittee. A man named Joe Abraham testified. His daughter was killed by an illegal airline drunk driver, January of this year. The man fled, they caught him. 20 years old, Katie Abraham, he testified. And then last week, as you know, because we reported it yesterday, there's Katie. A 18-year-old Loyola College student, Sheridan Gorman, there's Sheridan, was shot dead allegedly by a Venezuelan, Jose Medina Medina, who's in custody. And it's an outrage. Even people in Chicago, who are responsible for the sanctuary policies, the people of Chicago voted for Johnson and Pritzker, the governor. And here's what Pritzker said. Go.

"This has been a terrible tragedy, and I know that the Gorman family has suffered mightily. I agree there have been real failures. Those failures, of course, extend beyond the borders of Illinois. It's... There are national failures, a failure to have comprehensive immigration reform, a failure of the president to follow his own edict to go after the worst of the worst."

It's just bull. Of course, Homeland Security's going after the worst of the worst. Comprehensive, oh, here it is again, comprehensive immigration reform. And what does Pritzker mean? Everybody stays. So he's the worst governor in, he's worse than Newsom, he's worse than Hochul in New York. He's the worst. And he wants to run for president, okay. All right, this is a big weekend. This is perhaps the biggest weekend ever on BillOReilly.com, ever, in our nine-year history of being independent. So what do we got? First thing we have is on Thursday night, tomorrow night, 9 p.m., okay, News Nation, a Bill O'Reilly special. This is old-fashioned reporting. You want to see what old-fashioned reporting is? Some of you younger viewers don't know, you've never seen it. That's what this is. The special is the collapse of San Francisco. And it has collapsed. Even though they lie and say it hasn't, it has. Here's a clip, go.

"So I'm here in the Pacific Heights neighborhood of San Francisco. The house behind me, Nancy Pelosi lives there. So why am I here? Because Mrs. Pelosi, a Speaker of the House, was the most powerful politician outside of the President and maybe the Senate Majority Leader in the country for a good number of years. She did not object to her hometown going down the drain. Now, not in this neighborhood. Nancy bought her house for 2.3 million. It's worth about eight now. Pristine neighborhood, beautiful. You had a major amount of very, very powerful people attached to San Francisco. Gavin Newsom, now the governor of the state. Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi. None of them intervened or even objected to the rapid downfall of social order in the city."

"Despite living in one of the most affluent neighborhoods in San Francisco, not even the Pelosis are immune to the consequences of progressive policy. On October 28th, 2022, a hammer-wielding intruder broke into the home and attacked Paul Pelosi, fracturing his skull.

All right, so you will see a whole different side of reporting the news. News Nation collapsed San Francisco tomorrow, Thursday, 9 p.m. Hope you watch. The Army says you can enlist now if you're 42 years old. Wow! The age is up from 35. All right, so if you're 42 or 40, good shape, wanna get in on the action, the army will take you. That's the highest ever, except for the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, where throwing everybody in there, 42 years old. This Day in History, March 25th, 1987. Supreme Court, rule six to three, that preferences in employment for women and minorities are legal in the USA 39 years ago. So it was Johnson versus the transportation agency, Santa Clara County, California. The guy, Johnson, was denied a job when he had higher test scores, and the Supreme Court says too bad that employers may consider gender as a factor to address conspicuous imbalance in the workplace. Now, why am I doing this? Because that ruling in 1987, 39 years ago, as I said, is now being reversed. And again, a very underreported story. So in 2023, three years ago, Harvard was ordered to end its race-conscious college admissions by the Supreme Court. They're rolling it back. Okay, this day in history. Lively Mail segment and more of The Big Weekend on BillOReilly.com. I'm going to tell you about We'll Do It Live, drops tomorrow, you'll like it. And then, you know, Spade and Carvey, the Saturday Night Live guys, wait till you see this. I'm on their podcast. We'll be back in a moment.

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Go to the mail, Robert Land, Chibolo, Texas. "Bill, you said the Mullahs will continue to lead Iran. That is so, then all that has happened was only delaying the nuclear plans. Has the window for Iranian uprising closed?" No. But the thinking is that if the Iranians sign a deal, pretty much surrendering to America and Israel, they will lose so much face, okay, that the Islamists would be so angry, it'll be easier for the people to rise up after the deal and throw them out. Hopeful thinking, wishful thinking. But remember, any deal is gonna have American inspectors coming in to look at the uranium situation. So it's not gonna be able to reconstitute it.

John, Newport, Rhode Island. "There's a no-kings protest in Middletown, which is just north of Newport, and one of the headliners refers to President Trump as a convicted felon. Do you please investigate the status of the NYC criminal case appeal?" It's underway. I don't expect...I expect the conviction to be overturned, it takes forever. This is New York State. It takes forever.

Rosanna Salient,wWhere does Rosanna live? She doesn't tell me. Now, Rosanna, I'm going to scold you. OK? You've got to tell me where you live, name, and town. "Hey, Bill, what countries beside the U.S. and Russia have nuclear weapons?" Here they are: China, U.K., France, Israel, Pakistan, India. Now, South Africa says it did away with whatever nuke it had, and North Korea, we just don't know about what their status is, but the others have nukes. Name and town, please.

Ralph. Concierge Member, Ralph gets direct access to me. If anybody bothers him, we will put an end to it. "What is a solution for weakness in White House messaging? Republicans running for office are weak if they don't harp on the bad job Democrats are doing." Well, they're going to harp on that. The White House messaging, it's a very good question, you're asking. I think there should be a messaging czar. So all of the various departments have spokespeople, and they're pretty good, they're articulate, and the president has his spokespeople. But on complicated issues, it should be one person in good historical background, understands what the issue is, that would come out maybe once a week and talk to the press. I think that would be a good thing to do.

Mark, Concierge Member. "It's a crime to yell fire in a crowded theater, okay? Logically, it should be a crime to circulate false statements. Lying is a crime when it results in harm to others. The American people are being harmed." Yeah, but the First Amendment, you have to prove that A, the false statement was made knowing that it was false, that's very hard to do. Okay, because they go, no, no. I was always, the First Amendment overrides a lot of that.

Louis Thomas, Buckeye, Arizona. "Just got a signed copy of Killing the Witches when I signed up for Concierge Membership." That is a perk. Become a Concierge Member onBillOReilly.com. Get a signed book, any book you want. "I gave the book to my 45-year-old stepson. After I finished reading it, he loved it and is ordering two more of your Killing books. He said he had learned more from your books than anyone taught him in high school." Yeah, that's why I wrote them. You read all the books, all the Killing and Confronting, you'll know more than any historian. Okay, we told you yesterday that our 250 anniversary hats, number one, are the best hats you've ever seen, number two, they send a patriotic message. In particular, you don't have to agree with everything Donald Trump does, but if you love your country, if you think we are a noble nation for 250 years, there's the hat, okay? And it's not like in your face or anything. It's not, like, I hate you if you're liberal, all right? It's not a confrontational hat. It's just honoring our 250th anniversary. So I hope we've sold more of these than any other product we've ever had. So BillOReilly.com store has them. Don't be a rapscallion, word of the day, rapscallion. One of my favorite words, R-A-P, rap, scallion, S-C-A L-L-I-O-N. Back with a final thought about me and the Saturday Night Live guys, and me and Steve Sharippa.

Okay, final thought, as we said, We'll Do it Live drops tomorrow. Okay, earlier for Premium and Concierge Members, about noon, and then late afternoon for everyone else. So the program, The Sopranos, still all over the world of phenomenon. Unbelievable phenomenon. It began on January 10th, 1999, not long ago, on the air for eight years. Okay, the centerpiece was James Gandolfini. Okay, he died at age 51 from a heart attack while vacationing in Rome, Italy. All the cast very, very close. Steve Sharippa, you know him. He was not only in The Sopranos, but in Blue Bloods. He never wanted to be an actor at all. But anyway, he was close to Gandolfini. Roll the tape.

"Jim was always a pro, that you know, people say did you guys have fun on the set? Yeah, we had fun, it was all business, he was working 16 hours a day, five days a week."

Mm-hmm.

"Listen, a great guy is not without problems, I mean, that's common knowledge."

"Right."

But not on the set, never when he was working, you saw none... There was none of that."

"Was he the leader of the gang?"

"Absolutely. In a positive way. So you can't come in and, you know, it was a good vibe. It really was like a family. We were close, very respectful. Nobody could come in and be disrespectful to one another. That wasn't flying either."

"All right, so Gandalfini was kind of like the chief of police. I don't want to use a bad..."

"I mean, you know, but- but- but kind of by example, you know? I mean, he was the guy."

"But it was such an intense program, did you guys have any laughs off camera?"

"No, no, absolutely, we went out constantly, I mean, we enjoyed every moment, I mean, those guys are- Michael, Jim, were in their late 30s, I was in my early 40s, we went out. We, we were like playing for the Yankees."

So sure, because there's all the inside stuff on this brown house and blue bloods, and he's a little teed off. Blue Bloods got canceled by CBS. He gives a pretty good explanation of why that happened. So again, that is We'll Do It Live tomorrow, and we hope you check it out. The other one is a podcast I appeared on, Fly On The Wall with David Spade and Dana Carvey. Roll that.

"I feel like I'm on your show."

"Spade looks like he's in a bat cave. You look like you're in Bali, Indonesia."

"You've gotta have plants in podcasts."

"Because most people you're interviewing are potted plants anyway."

"Shots fired."

"Thanks for having me on, you guys, I really appreciate it. Very nice of you."

"And you seem to have unlimited energy. Are you going to take a nap after this podcast?"

"I may take a nap during the podcast."

"Yeah, that's what most of the customers do."

"I wrote the book specifically for the church lady. She demanded that I write Confronting Evil to get all the evil out there. What the church Lady commands, I do."

"I talked to her before I came out. I can only paraphrase it. Well, well, well. Mr. Bill O'Reilly writes a book about naughty people when he could have been writing about himself."

So it goes on like that, you can catch Fly On The Wall on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, that drops tomorrow. So you can see, and we'll have all this on BillOReilly.com. We'll have links and all of that stuff. I'm overexposed, I understand. But this stuff is entertaining and informative. That's the key. People learn stuff, but they have fun doing it. That's why we're so successful, because we don't take ourselves that seriously. Even, you know, sometimes we have to because they're terrible things happening, but we like to bring in a value. And we have it this weekend, so we hope you check out BillOReilly.com. Thank you for watching the No Spin News tonight. We will see you again on Monday.

No Kings Protests Return: Who's Really Behind It?, Extremists on the Left, U.S.-Iran Talks Remain Uncertain & Late-Night Comedy Under Fire

2026-03-25T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, March 25, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: Another round of No Kings demonstrations is expected this Saturday. Bill looks into who is funding it and whether there is any dark money behind it.
Why a resurfaced soundbite from Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) is gaining attention.
The latest in Iran and the chances of a U.S.-Iran meeting.
Actor Vince Vaughn calls out late-night shows for focusing too much on politics.
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The latest on Iran, including possible peace talks, the deployment of U.S. troops to the Middle East, and the Ukrainian president’s claim that Russia is supplying intelligence support to Iran.

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2026-03-25T13:56:00Z

Delta Airlines has cut off all perks to Congresspeople flying out of Washington, D.C. The company has suspended personal security escorts as well as preferential security screening.

Good for Delta.

This failure to pay TSA personnel is a contrived gambit to force Homeland Security to basically stop immigration enforcement. Senator Charles Schumer is demanding “Judicial Warrants” before undocumented foreign nationals are detained.

Schumer well understands that’s impossible. There aren’t nearly enough judges in the entire country to analyze millions of immigration cases.

When President Biden opened the southern border to migrants, more than ten million poured in during his catastrophic four-year term. Schumer had no problem with that despite the chaos that followed.

Now, Schumer wants all but extremely dangerous migrants to stay in the country and is using TSA agents as hostages to try to achieve that.

He is likely to fail, but in the meantime, everyone suffers at the airport.

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Iran Latest: Peace Talks Underway, Mick Mulvaney on Donald Trump's Leadership Then vs. Now & Making a Deal With Evil

2026-03-24T22:00:00Z

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, March 24, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.

Talking Points Memo: The latest on Iran, including possible peace talks, the deployment of U.S. troops to the Middle East, and the Ukrainian president’s claim that Russia is supplying intelligence support to Iran.
Former White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney joins the No Spin News to break down how President Trump has changed and whether he’s the same leader as in his first term.
Has making a deal with evil ever worked out? Bill reviews a clip from his NewsNation appearance last night.
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Iran Latest: Peace Talks Underway, Mick Mulvaney on Donald Trump's Leadership Then vs. Now & Making a Deal With Evil

2026-03-24T22:00:00Z

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, March 24th, 2026. Stand up for your country. We can report with certainty that the Trump administration would like to make a deal with Iran. When I say the words with certainty, you can take that to the bank. Now, it's a very practical story. So the United States has degraded Iran as an aggressive military threat. It's not 100% complete, but it's very, very serious. And that country is going to take years to rebuild its arsenal. The only outstanding situation is the uranium, which has got to be the headline of any deal. And the Trump administration understands now that the Persian people aren't going to rise up right away, at least, and overthrow the regime. So that's not going to happen unless US ground forces would go into Iran, and the American people will not support that, as everybody knows. So you've got to be realistic in these things. And we are going to provide some clarity in the Talking Points memo.

So the president of Pakistan, Shabazz Sharif, has offered to hold peace talks in Islamabad between the United States. And I would assume Israel would be in on those talks to some extent, but not a major player, and the government of Iran. The Guardian, that's a newspaper that is not reliable, reports that Vice President Vance would be the chief negotiator, not Steve Witkoff or Jared Kushner, who had been doing the negotiating before the military action. Again, the Guardian is not reliable, so I can't give you anything other than that's what this newspaper says. The government of Iran predictably says, Oh, no, no. We don't want to talk. Yeah, okay. That's like... They don't want to lose face in the Arab world, in the Muslim world, and with their own people, but they'll show up if there are talks scheduled. Now Reuters reports the talks may begin this weekend. Reuters is so-so. I'm just giving you what we have. I can't say with certainty that any of this is going to happen. I can just tell you that the Trump administration would like it to happen. About 2,200 Marines are either in or on their way to the Persian Gulf. We don't know why. And the Pentagon is not going to tell anybody why, why we should do that. So we have ground forces available if certain missions, not occupation, but missions need to be done. But, you know, the Defense Department, the Department of War, whatever they are. They're not going to say, Hey, this is where the Marines are. This is what we're going to do. Come on. But the reporters keep asking. Okay. A Pentagon official says that due to security situations, we can't answer any questions. That's legitimate. Usually, the government dodges, and it doesn't want to answer questions here in a battle front situation. That's legitimate.

In Ukraine, Zelensky says he has irrefutable proof that Russia is providing intelligence to Iran. That is likely an accurate situation. Putin is the master of evil. That's why he's on the cover Confronting Evil, right next to the Ayatollah Khomeini. All right? So I'm sure that Russia is doing bad things, trying to make it more difficult for the United States. So I believe that report. The United Nations UNICEF, which is the children's arm of it, says that 324 children have been killed so far in the conflict, 206 in Iran, 118 in Lebanon, four in Israel, one in Kuwait. Now, the Lebanon thing is interesting because Lebanon got involved at the behest of Iran, and it's Hezbollah. It's not the government of Lebanon. It's the terror group, Hezbollah. It's the same thing with Hamas. So they start firing rockets at Israel, civilians. Well, what do you think Israel's going to do? No, they fire rockets back. Now, I'm not justifying anything. I'm just telling you that the perspective is needed in covering the story. So the kids are caught in the middle, just like Hamas. Civilians were caught in Gaza because Hamas hid behind them. We all understand. I hope so. How did the UN get those numbers? It's impossible to get them. So they took them from the various governments, which then you say, okay, you gotta be skeptical, but be that as it may, children, women, civilians, everybody's suffering. The world would be a lot better place if we didn't have any of this, right? It's so simple.

So, summing up. I think that they're over the weekend, this weekend coming, stuff is going to happen. And I'm hoping good stuff for the country's sake could be wrong. And that's the memo. Joining us now from Wahsington DC, is Mick Mulvaney. You know him. He was President Trump's chief of staff for 15 months at the end of Mr. Trump's first term. He is now the co-chair at Actum, and he's on CNBC and News Nation. So my question is very simple, I'm a simple man, as you know, Mick. Is President Trump the same leader? We'll talk about him as a human being in a minute. But is he the same leader now than he was when you were chief of staff?

"Yeah, it's a really interesting question. I'm gonna try to give you a little nuanced answer. And the answer is, yeah, some places and some places he's different. Keep in mind, I was chief, what, seven years ago now, and I don't think any of us are exactly the same person or same leader that we would have been seven years ago. I see some similarities, Bill, and I see differences. The big differences that I've seen is that in the first term, I really think Trump valued having people around him who aggressively disagreed with him. Maybe not publicly, but certainly privately. Look, he hired me. I was one of the most fiscally conservative members of the Republican Budget Committee on the Hill. And Donald Trump is not the world's most fiscally conservative person. He hired Gary Cohn, the former president of Goldman Sachs, to advise him on economic issues. And Gary's a free trader. Donald Trump was clearly not a free trader. He welcomed those types of disagreements in the first term. In fact, he sort of cultivated it. He wanted to see people fight with each other. I remember going to trade meetings, and he used to put the free traders, you know, me and Gary on one side of the room and that protectionist, Peter Navarro, and Bob Lighthizer on the other side of the room and watch us argue, he liked that. That's how he chose to manage. I see a little bit of that in this term. I know for, oh, by the way, and don't forget he hired John Bolton, the most neoconservative person you can to be national security advisor, and Donald Trump is not a neoconservative. In this term, I get the sense that he doesn't have as much interest in doing that. There's still some, Russ Vogt, who runs the OMB, worked for me. Probably more fiscally conservative than I am. And he's still on the team and very highly regarded. But generally speaking, I'm just not, I don't get the sense that he wants that same sort of active and aggressive disagreement that he wanted in the first term. So yeah, there's some similarities. There's some differences, probably to be expected with the passage of time. He's a different person. The country is a different place. So I don't think that's necessarily bad. It's just different."

Is it true that he's more confident in his second term because he learned some very hard lessons in his first term?

"I'm not sure if it's the first lessons. I think he's confident right now in the military. I think the actions in Venezuela, the action six months ago in Iran at the Natanz nuclear facility, gave him a certain level of confidence. We didn't see that. We didn't do any of that in the first term by choice. And I think maybe that's a new data point for him that he thought he could use the military in a way that what didn't really occur to us in the 1st term. I don't think Donald Trump has any interest, as you mentioned in your introduction, of putting troops on the ground in Iran on a permanent or semi-permanent invasion type of basis. But I, and he didn't want that in the first term either, but this sort of what I call Tomahawk diplomacy, the strategic sort of stuff, the standoff weapons, that was something we didn't even consider using the first time, and clearly he's not shy about using it now."

It is true that a lot of people that he has hired have been sycophants and just say yes to him to death, and whatever he wants is fine. But is that understandable because he got burned by a lot of people in his first term? Kelly, people like that, they turned on him, they burned him, there were a lot of leaks, remember the leaks all over the place, and he then became very distrustful of the swamp?

"Yes and no. And again, that's the second time I'm trying to give you a nuanced answer, but these are complicated questions. Yeah, he got burned in the first term. There's no question. I mean, James Mattis was actively working against Donald Trump. John Kelly, my predecessor's chief of staff, was actively working against him. Many of the people saw themselves as the so-called adults in the room, there to protect the country against the president. That's a fundamentally wrong position for any member, an unelected member of staff to take. And if Trump sort of felt burned by that, you can't blame him. That being said, there were people that he trusted and knew and worked well with in the first administration who did disagree with him from time to time. I was one of those. I never turned on Trump, but I did have the confidence to go and close a door and tell him something that maybe I disagreed with. So I don't think you need to go as far as just firing everybody or not putting people in there who would disagree with you at all. There are ways to get there."

He's chosen people for loyalty as one of the top considerations. I think a lot of this turned, and I'm looking at it from a historical point of view now, on January 6th. So he had a close relationship with Pence, his vice president, and I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they lunched a couple of times a week, and Pence gave him fairly candid advice, correct?

"He did."

OK. So that relationship was pretty strong until January 6th, all right, when Pence wouldn't go in and challenge the vote. And so Pence was out the door. And then a more loyal guy, in Donald Trump's opinion, Vance, took his place. And then you saw that in the Department of War with Hegseth, who is a patriot, I mean, I would never argue that. He's served this country well, but is certainly very inexperienced and another loyalist. And it just looks down the line like that's what he did. He doesn't want to take any chances with people, and the January 6th thing hardened him. Would I be wrong there?

"No, but I cringe when I hear people say, Oh, my goodness, this president hired loyalists. They all do. Eric Holder was not disloyal to Barack Obama. The question is, is not loyalty. I was loyal to the president. In fact, I was so loyal to the president, I decided to give him honest opinions when he asked me about questions. That's what you're looking for."

But you had a falling out with him over January 6th, though.

"That's right, I did, not to the same extent that Mike Pence did, but that's sure. If your question is this, is he getting good advice? I think that's really what we're talking about. Is he getting advice from people? And I think the answer is generally yes. I do hope that behind closed doors, there are people who are saying, Mr. President, this might not be such a good idea. My fear, Bill, my fear is this. Is that instead of giving them those honest opinions, there's people, especially more junior people, in the White House. You know, we talked about the cabinet here, but the junior people who are around the president all the time are goading him on. Oh, Mr. President, I think it'd be a great idea if we put your name on the Kennedy Center. I don't think Donald Trump came up with that. I think that was some obsequious junior staffer trying to get in good with the president. And I don't think that serves him well, generally, in the long run. That's maybe not the best example, but that's-"

The most powerful guy in the White House right now is Stephen Miller. And Miller is more militant about everything than Donald Trump is. But I think that Miller still has the presidency, or would I be wrong on that?

"No, he absolutely does. You're not wrong at all. The one thing about Stephen is that it's a constant. Stephen was just as adamant and militant about this in the first term. He just is. I think one of the differences is that Trump really, really did latch on to immigration as one of the key issues in the 2024 election. That's not to say that it wasn't like that in 2016, but clearly, him not being Hillary Clinton was also a big part of 2016.".

And it worked, and Trump-like success, and Miller can take success. Now, I have been in a cabinet...

"And they fixed, and I'm starting to interrupt, but they have fixed the fundamental underlying issue of the security of the southern border."

But it got him elected. It got him elected. I mean, you know, that pounding of this is insane and hurting a country, and I'm going to fix it, which he did. Now, as a civilian, I don't work for anybody but myself. I've been in some cabinet meetings, serious stuff, invited by President Trump, because I believe he... Like you, he knows that I'm not going to toe any party line or ideological line or anything. When he asks me a question, I give him an honest answer. I never insert myself without being asked, ever. I don't call him. I do not do any of that. He's got to come to me. But when I was in those cabinet meetings, those guys in the White House were not happy to see me. They were not pleased. Because I would go out of the box. And I would say, I'm writing about it in my book, which will be out in September, Confronting America. I spill it out pretty vividly, but I'll give you one example, Panama. And it was early on, and you remember the rattle in the cage, and we're gonna go down there and take over the canal. Well, I was in that meeting, and I said, yeah, do any of this. You know, here's what you can do. You'll get everything you want. And it absolutely happened. The whole thing happened the way that I had drawn it out because I covered the wars in Central America. I know the turf, all right? I know how it goes. Well, those guys didn't like that at all, the advice. And I understand. I mean, here is this O'Reilly guy coming in from God knows where, sitting with us, and he's given, and... The president's listening to him, they didn't like it. So I got a little taste of the office politics.

"I don't remember you doing that when I was the chief of staff, but other people did. And here's how I would respond to it. I get the concern because a lot of folks who come into those meetings from the outside, whether it's a cabinet meeting or just an Oval Office meeting, aren't familiar with all the work that has been done up to that point of arriving at a certain conclusion or at least getting to someplace along the line and making a decision. So I get that little level of frustration. But to me, it was more important, number one, did the president like it? And was it good information? Number two. That's what we're looking for."

He made fun of me, I don't know whether he liked it or not, but it evolved the way that I laid it out. I was at Harvard two weeks ago giving a little seminar to the pinheads at the Kennedy School, my alma mater, and they don't like Trump, generally speaking, in that school. And they were asking me questions about my interactions with the president. And what I said to them was, look, what you're hearing from the media isn't true, generally speaking. So they're shading it negatively toward Trump. I can tell you that in every single conversation I have had, and I did the first interview with him in 2016 when he announced, in every conversation, number one, he never lied to me, and number two, he knew what the deuce he was talking about. He knew, all right? So if you think that this guy is some, you know, bon vivant, you shouldn't be there because he doesn't know what he's doing, you're crazy. And he's straight up with me. And that silenced them because they couldn't challenge me on it, because I've had more conversations with President Trump than any journalist in the country. A lot of them are private, and I always honor that. Now, the man himself, I have seen a change in the man, I'm not ready to define it yet. Have you seen a change in him?

"I mean, look, he's what, almost 80 now. I guess he was 72 when I worked for him. So that's a big difference for everybody. Do I think he seems a little bit more tired sometimes? Yes. But I know that people offer examples of his, what he calls the weave, as a sign of mental decline. And I'm like, that's crazy. Donald Trump is always-".

No, there is no mental decline.

"There's a great ESPN 30 for 30 from, I don't know, 40 years ago about the USFL. I encourage people to go back and watch it because the Donald Trump when he was in his, I don't know, late 30s, early 40s, is the exact same Donald Trump you see today. So now I've not seen any mental decline yet at all. Does he look a little bit more tired than he was..."

I can tell you that with certainty. However, he's less restrained in his statements, in my opinion. So when Mueller dies, he says, I'm glad he's dead. I don't know if he would have said that in his first four years.

"Yeah, he did, he said the same thing about McCain."

I mean, not this exactly. Yeah, I don't know if it was. He criticized McCain, I remember that. But it wasn't that personal. Yeah, it wasn't that. That was a tough statement, which I understood, and I wrote a message today on BillOReilly.com about it because Mueller had attacked his family. And if you attack somebody's family, I mean, that changes everything. So you haven't seen a big change in Donald Trump, the man.

"Not really, just on the stuff on the overseas trips. Look, those trips are brutal. And as you know, he doesn't sleep, he only sleeps about four hours a night anyway. The man's physical conditioning is just, it's outrageous. I've known a couple of people who were able to do that. I couldn't do it. But at some point, it has to wear on you. You know, a 30-hour flight back from the Middle East is gonna take its toll on everybody."

How about being moody?

"No, I'm not with him day to day like I used to be. So my interaction with him is on television. I just watched the interview that he gave today. I've not seen any large swings in that. He is a little bit more willing to push back on the press, but that's a degree. That was something he did in the first term anyway. I do think, let me see if I can make sense of it this way, Bill. He's not restricted by having to run for office again. And when you're the first-term president, you're also automatically on day one, a candidate for reelection. Everybody is, right? And so you're always in the back of your mind going, how is this gonna play in the next elections? And I think that's different this time. He doesn't have to do that. We watched the equity markets very, very closely in the first time because we knew it was a big deal for the voters. I don't think they're as restricted by that. They pay more attention now, for example, I think to the bond markets than they do the equity markets. Equity markets have still done very well under Trump, don't get me wrong, but I think that the flow of the day might be a little bit different because he's not running for reelection."

But he has to win the midterms, or two years is going to be real rough.

"And I think that's an uphill battle. Listen, if gas is $4 a gallon in August and September, they've got a problem."

Yeah, it shouldn't be, though. I think they're going to wrap this Iran thing in the next, in the short term, let's put it that way, and then gas prices will have to come down fairly rapidly. But the damage done, you never know. You don't know if recession, or overseas, or what's going on. Final question. Donald Trump has got a big thing coming up with China. And a lot of people don't understand his interactions with Putin, with Xi, but they're different. My observation, they're different than he interacts with most other world leaders. Would I be wrong there?

"I don't think so. You know, the way I try to describe it is that just because you get elected president doesn't mean you're not a human being. And he reacts the way that ordinary people would, and under similar circumstances. Look, a lot of the European leaders, when I was there in the first term, were not shy about showing their disdain for Donald Trump. And if I come on TV and I clearly don't like you and I let it be known that I don't like you and my body language is like that, my verbal language is that. That's going to affect our relationship. And I think that was part of the difficulty he had, for example, with Justin Trudeau in Canada, Angela Merkel in Germany, et cetera. You can go down the list. Donald Trump does not pick his friends based upon their politics. He doesn't like conservatives more than liberals. He likes people that he likes. And I think he just gets along with Xi. To a certain extent, he gets along with Putin. I still, you know, I do worry a little bit about the relationships, and at the end of the day, when Trump comes out and has these meetings, like he's supposed to go to China the end this month, it's now been delayed, and says he's got a great personal relationship with Xi, that's wonderful. But what I would tell him when we did this in the first term is, Mr. President, that's great. But the American people don't care as much about your relationship with that leader as they do as what that means to them. So we need to show them the benefits of that good relationship."

But he feels he can leverage deals with these guys if he has...

"Let's see the deal."

Yeah, if he has your ear. Hey, Mick, thanks very much for helping us out. We really appreciate it and hope we can talk again soon.

"Thanks, Bill."

News Nation last night, I was on with Leland Vittert, and we're talking about a deal which I believe the Trump administration, as I said, wants. And Leland, who asked very good questions, took the contrary point of view. Roll the tape.

"Has there ever been a time that making a deal with evil worked out?"

"Yes, there have been times when you make a deal, knowing that, well, there were a lot of deals made before World War II that postponed the Armageddon."

"You're gonna sit here and tell me Chamberlain in Munich was a success?"

"The word success never entered my mind. It postponed the armed conflict, okay?"

All right, now I should have, and I did not think quick enough, said Korea. So Harry Truman made a deal with China and North Korea, two of the worst governments in the history of mankind, and signed the deal on July 27, 1953. That deal is held to today, and has led to millions of South Koreans being free. That deal with the devil worked, but it didn't pop into my mind right away. The other point I was trying to make was the deal with Hitler, okay, postponed by a year. And if the Europeans had been smart, which they never are, they would have built up their armaments and defenses. Okay? Because they had a year window, but they did not.

Senate has confirmed Mark Wayne Mullen, as the next DHS secretary. The vote was 54-45. Rand Paul, a Republican senator from Kentucky, voted against Mullen. Rand Paul's not really a Republican anymore. He's just kind of an independent kind of guy. Two Democrats voted in favor, Fetterman of Pennsylvania and Heinrich of New Mexico. So Mullen is in, Kristi Noem is out. Where is Kristi Noem, former governor of South Dakota? She is in charge of the Shield of the Americas. I don't really know what that is, but she's in charge of it. ICE latest. So in Atlanta, things are good, 30-minute waits are the reports. I'm not sure that's accurate because ICE agents are there helping the poor TSA agents who aren't being paid. In Houston, there was a report that the line at the airport is four and a half hours. That is BS. Total BS. Garbage, you know, and it just makes me furious. But the ICE presence should help move those lines along.

Terrible story out of Chicago, a Loyola University freshman, a girl named Sheridan Gorman shot dead by an illegal alien, Jose Medina, all right? So Ms. Gorman, 18 years old, Medina 25. And Ms. Gorman was walking with friends in a lakefront park in Chicago. The guy came out of nowhere with a mask, shot her in the head, and she's dead. But here's the deal. Medina was let in here by the Biden administration. Then he was arrested a month later, after he was released for shoplifting and let go again. Is that what you're going to do, and the liberal centers are going to have more dead people. Media covered it so-so. ABC News gave it a minute and fifteen seconds, NBC a minute forty seconds, CBS thirty-two seconds. All it was worth on CBS News. Terrible. Poor woman, poor family, and I hope this guy never sees the light of day again if he's guilty. We do respect due process.

All right, the Pentagon has ordered journalists to go outside. This is one of the dumbest stories in the history of this country. So a judge named Paul Friedman, Clinton appointee, said that the Secretary of War, Hegseth, banning reporting inside the Pentagon or whatever Hegseth is up to is unconstitutional. So Hegseth said, all right, I'm closing up all the death space in the Pentagon, and they got to go outside. So you've got to stand under a tree or something. This is so dumb, all right, it really is. Secretary Hegesth has more important things to do than this, and it just is a bad look. It is, and you know me and the press. I got no use for them. I am part of them, but I'm way apart. President Trump went to Memphis yesterday to celebrate his crime-fighting strategy. Memphis, Tennessee, one of the most violent cities in the country, but now the joint task force of local authorities and federal have turned it around. Here's the president.

"But just as we have in D.C., here in Memphis, we've achieved one of the largest, fastest declines in violent crime ever recorded. So that's something, right? Ever recorded. In fact, you're half a percentage point away from the record."

Alright, 7,400 arrests in the last six months, 1,200 guns confiscated, 150 missing children found, kidnapped children, violent crime down 43 percent. So it works. These task forces between the feds and the locals drives crime down. That's it, you progressives. It works. I know you don't want it to work, but it works! Now, at Memphis, the president took a side trip to Graceland. I was there with Dennis Miller a few years ago. Interesting place, Elvis's home. So a reporter asked the president about Elvis, go.

"What's your favorite song, sir, of Elvis's?".

"Well, she just mentioned one of them, Hurt. Hurt's great, right?"

"It is. It is very good."

"He's got so many. There's very few I don't like."

"How great thou art."

"Yeah, yeah. Every one of them is... He made nothing, he did nothing bad."

He didn't know any of Elvis's hits. So here are my favorite three Elvis songs. Viva Las Vegas, number one. Suspicious Minds, number two, particularly in the live performance. And Return to Sender. Those are my three favorite Elvis songs, Smart Life. The US ranks 23rd among 140 countries in happiness. So we Americans are the 23rd-happiest people in the world. This is according to well-being research out of the University of Oxford in England. Here are the five happiest countries. Finland, of course, Iceland, Denmark, Costa Rica, Sweden. Now, all the Scandinavian countries, they're happy because the government pays for everything. Costa Rica, I don't know why they're so happy there. I didn't even like it there. The third world situation. Alright, here are the five unhappiest countries: Afghanistan, Sierra Leone, Africa, Malawi, Africa, Zimbabwe, Africa, Botswana. Botswana is a beautiful country, you've got big game parks there. Anyway, they're all poor countries and chaotic countries, so they're unhappy. Now, the reason that we're 23rd on the happiness level is because a lot of people don't want to compete. A lot of Americans don't want to compete. I keep telling you guys, move to Sweden, although Sweden doesn't want you anymore, but go to a European socialist country where you don't have to compete! You get a job in a coffee place or whatever, government will take care of you, and you can just do what you want. Here it's hard to make a good living. You've got to compete with a lot of people. There's a lot of X-factors, real estate, homes, taxes, on and on. And, you know, where's you down? But the rewards to live in America are far beyond any other country. Smart life. This Day in History, March 24th, 2021. President Biden appoints Vice President Kamala Harris as the border czarina five years ago today. This whole thing was a charade, an unbelievable charade. So Biden's having trouble because he knocked out all the Trump security measures at the southern border. Millions of people pour in. So, March 24th, 2021, Biden didn't want to deal with it because he didn't deal with anything. Nothing. No problem-solving whatsoever. He goes, Well, Kamala's sitting over there, got nothing to do. Here's Biden. Go.

"Well, I've asked her, the VP, today, because she's the most qualified person to do it, to lead our efforts with Mexico and the Northern Triangle and the countries that are going to need help in stemming the movement of so many folks, stemming migration to our southern border."

Gibberish, and here's what the vice president said, go.

"As the President has said , there are many factors that lead precident to leave these countries, and while we are clear that people should not come to the border now, we also understand that we will enforce the law and that we also, because we can shoot them and walk at the same time, must address the root causes that cause people to make the trek, as the President has describe to come here.".

Number one, she didn't address any root causes. Number two, I don't know about chewing gum, but she can walk around, and she did absolutely nothing. So in the Biden four-year term, million encounters at the southwest border, eight million. At least two million gotaways, which means they got them on tape, but they couldn't encounter them because they just ran away. That's 10 million. And another, you know, you got to figure another five million got in here through trucks and everything else because it was a big industry. So Harris did nothing, Biden did nothing. And the kicker is that Trump won the election, as I pointed out to Mick Mulvaney by saying, I'm going to clean it up. And he did. So illegal crossings at the border are at a record low right now. There you go. Facts. Dealing with facts. Okay, we've got a lively mail segment. A lot of people mad at me over a certain story. I'll tell you about that in a moment.

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Okay, YouTube, I got a brand new one. Sarah Huckabee, the governor of Arkansas, treated rudely and disrespectfully in a restaurant in Little Rock. I analyze what your rights are, if you go into a restaurant and are treated rudly by management. And so, youtube.com/BillOReilly, it's free. This is our YouTube channel. We would like you to subscribe to it. Here's the mail, Fred Smith, Crown Point, Indiana. "Hey, Bill, while I don't disagree with you very often, this time I am. For a president of the USA to say he's happy at someone's death is inexcusable. To my knowledge, no president has ever been so crude as to say that. While I don't agree with everything that Mueller did, I think he was an honorable man who spent many years in service to his country." I didn't say what President Trump said was okay, I said I understood it, and probably I would have thought the same thing, because Mueller attacked his family. Andrew Jackson was worse in that area than Donald Trump. Teddy Roosevelt, close. Franklin Roosevelt, Teddy's cousin, close. You won't cross these guys.

Susan, Concierge Member. Susan gets direct access to me. "Although it is not necessary to celebrate the life of someone who was for all intensive purposes, an enemy, it is necessary to respect the person's life and humanity. That's not nobility, that's common decency." I disagree, I'm not respecting anybody who attacks my family. Ever.

Donald. "Bill and the price of a barrel of oil goes up, who gets the money?" The oil producers and the oil distributors get the money, a lot of money. Private industry.

Kevin McDaniel, Las Vegas. "Any deal with Iran should never allow the theocracy to remain in power. Also, post-conflict oil shipments from Iran should include a fee per barrel collected by the USA." So therefore, Kevin, you want this war to continue forever because Iran's not going to agree to that. So it'll just be forever, cause a worldwide depression. You know, you've got to stay in the real world.

David, Concierge Member. "Bill, your explanation of why Democrats are withholding funding for TSA is spot on. Fortunately, the Republican Party is doing a terrible job of explaining this." Messaging in the Republican Party is weak. And in the White House, it's weak.

Clarinda Landy, Morris Plains, New Jersey. "Hey, Bill, can you explain the Democrats' position? They have agreed to fund various areas of homeland security, but claim the Republicans are holding it up. What exactly are they fighting over?" We did this yesterday, Clarinda. I know you can't watch every program. It's essentially that the Democratic Party wants to destroy ICE. They don't want immigration enforcement.

Charles Robinson, Gaithersburg, Maryland. "Mr. O'Reilly, how is the Vietnam War illegal? Did the Gulf of Tonkin resolution authorize President Johnson to repel the Vietnamese?" Gulf of Tonkin resolution was based on a false premise. Confronting the Presidents. Lyndon Johnson Chapter. Read it and learn it.

Pat Constantino, UConn, Oklahoma. "Bill, it's by far the best interview I've seen with Lindsay Nelson." With Lindsay Nelson, Lindsay Nelson used to be a New York Met broadcaster. It's opening day this week. Lindsey Graham, all right. "If open-minded Democrats would spend 45 minutes to view the interview, it would change their minds." No, it wouldn't. They think Trump's more of a danger to the world than Iran. Nothing's gonna change their mind. Okay, I want you to celebrate the USA. This hat celebrates us. Throw it on up there. USA 250. This is a celebratory hat, and it's the best hat you will ever own. I designed the hat. You will love the hat. Word of the Day: do not be a codger, C-O-D-G-E-R, some people say I'm a codger. Back with a final thought about Bernie Goldberg in a moment.

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