O'REILLY Okay, here we are with Stephen Baldwin, the legendary Baldwin Brothers, for our Premium Members and Concierge Members on BillOReilly.com. We hope you are enjoying that, and this is Killing Time. When you were in the mainstream, filmmaking was it for you, that was your profession. In that world, that intense world, drives people, some people a little crazy.

BALDWIN No, I never lost my way, meaning I grew up with a dad, and it was kind of, I think the Baldwin boys would agree, it was kinda like a mini great Santini. My dad was the kind of guy who understood if you can't know yourself well enough to speak to yourself strongly enough to overcome certain things. So in other words, you cut yourself, you needed stitches, it was swelling, da-da-da. He didn't come over, like, hoo-hoo-hoo. My dad would be like, hey.

O'REILLY He took care of it.

BALDWIN He said, listen, we're gonna fix this, look at me. He talked to you like a coach, almost, but to try to get you through the navigation and the management of the pain or whatever it was, because he was one of those, you know, better stop crying or I'm gonna give you something to cry about. Because we were hooligans, we were getting in trouble, you know, all over town, you know, late for school, you know, booked for detention, lied to my dad, you know. He was a school teacher, so if I did something, if I mouthed off to a teacher over here, you know, in two or three weeks, it was back to him.

O'REILLY Right.

BALDWIN Right, so he'd pull you out, he'd pull you aside. What happened with Mr. So-and-so? No, dad, listen, you know, he just, he kept you on a short leash.

O'REILLY So you always remembered that lesson.

BALDWIN I always remembered when I got to Hollywood. Forgive me, Bill, Hollywood to me has always just been a bunch of BS.

O'REILLY Oh, I agree.

BALDWIN It's just another industry. And whatever the thing is in that industry, you can throw strikes and make some money. God bless you. So that's kind of why when I became born again, and I came out of it, and I really learned who my friends were in Hollywood, kind of, sort of. And then I really learnt who my Christian friends were over the next 20 years...

O'REILLY That's a positive.

BALDWIN Yes and no, but I just mean all of the Hollywoodnessnessness that's Hollywood and Christian Hollywood is kind of the same thing. It's pretty much the same machine.

O'REILLY Right.

BALDWIN You know what I mean? It's there to return a profit on an investment. Now, the one side of it is hallelujah. That's great.

O'REILLY Well, it's how you return the profit.

BALDWIN Right. But it's also what you produce. So what I'm getting ready to do now. I don't know if you...you won't remember this, but there was a great company back in the day in New York called the Shooting Gallery. If you see the actor now that's on the cowboy show that was married to Angelina Jolie, what's his name?

O'REILLY Brad Pitt?

BALDWIN No. The guy who drank the blood with her and all that, what's this name again?

O'REILLY No, I don't know. Angelina frightens me.

BALDWIN Billy Bob Thornton.

O'REILLY Billy Bob, right!

BALDWIN So Billy Bob Thornton made a movie called Sling Blade.

O'REILLY I remember the movie.

BALDWIN That was produced by Larry Meistridge, a guy who had a company called the Shooting Gallery. But that company, in a short time, made a lot of Sling Blade hit movies, like 20 titles that were really well regarded.

O'REILLY Noirs.

BALDWIN Right, that was one of the specialties of Larry Meistrich's company. So Larry is a new company now that, I might be going back, Bill, to the old school, kinda, you know, let's make great stuff again with a new company he has called Red Coral Universe. It's an app, it's this, it's, it's like a baby Netflix.

O'REILLY Yeah, there's a lot of that stuff.

BALDWIN But it lets the artist keep their stuff for themselves.

O'REILLY Well, we hope that works out. So I saved this question for last. It was a very interesting conversation we had throughout the whole long-form podcast. One of the things that came through that I did not know was that you have kept your tradition, working class, two parents who cared about you, siblings, five. You have kept those lessons paramount in your mind, where many other celebrities either forget the lessons or banish them. Was that a conscious decision, or did they force you to keep those lessons in mind?

BALDWIN I think, like anything, I think it's just what I was raised with.

O'REILLY Yeah, me too.

BALDWIN You know?

O'REILLY I've always kept them.

BALDWIN Some of those old cliches, you know, it's like today if somebody says like, hey, you know, you've had this much success, and you've been involved in some great films, and you know your kids are this or that, and now you're the youngest Baldwin brother with two grandkids, you know, blah, blah, blah, you've been blessed. What would you say? What's the one thing you can encapsulate is the reason that allowed that kind of motivation? I said, you know, I said to people, my mom always said, you know, you could really just do anything.

O'REILLY Upbringing.

BALDWIN But I was, but I remember my mom putting my cap on my head and moving my hair out of my eyes and putting my gloves on, and we were going to have a snowball fight and just... She'd be like, get out there and hit them all in the face, and if somebody bothers you, punch them in the nose, and you can do anything if you really set your mind to it. It was some of that, it was all that kind of stuff.

O'REILLY Right, right.

BALDWIN But for real.

O'REILLY Right.

BALDWIN So between that and the mini Great Santini, it all kind of amalgamated, you know, interestingly.

O'REILLY Something that would hit big on commercial television would be the four Baldwin brothers doing a weekly.

BALDWIN Produced by Bill O'Reilly. Here we go. Let's go.

O'REILLY I'm afraid of Alec, so I can't, but if you guys went on and did an hour every week, with your different philosophies, your different points of view, your traditional backgrounds, Alec's 25 children. And all you have to do is basically parade one or two in an episode, and you get the whole year.

BALDWIN We'll zoom them in on the screen.

O'REILLY That would be enormous. But I wonder if they, Billy and I think Daniel would do it because he's just crazy. But I wonder if Alec and Billy would do it, because that would be a surefire hit.

BALDWIN Well, Alec just signed to do a new TV show. He's got 29 kids. I don't know what he's going to do in the future. I think you just, I know, I think like you, he likes working. He likes working, you know, you just said, Oh, I thought I'd be retired by now. Alec is the same as you right now. He thought he'd be retired by now, too, but he's also got seven kids.

O'REILLY But you see my point, right?

BALDWIN Sure.

O'REILLY You get the four of you guys who have different points of view on life, and you're all together, and you just explaining what the hell is going on in America. Boy, I think that the entertainment quotient on that'd be through the roof, and I don't want a consulting fee or anything.

BALDWIN We'll see!

O'REILLY Here's what I want.

BALDWIN We'll talk to Josh.

O'REILLY Once a month, I want to come in and make fun of all of you. Okay, and then I'll leave, and I won't even charge.

BALDWIN We'll call it the concierge minute. Just come in.

O'REILLY That's right.

BALDWIN Get us all.

O'REILLY Anyway, so nice to see you again.

BALDWIN You too, Bill. Thanks for having me.

O'REILLY I really appreciate you coming down. The conversation was very worthy. So thanks again.